I was curious if any on here have used this app? I love the developer (have his SpeedHUD app)..... If anyone can does use it, I would love your opinion. I am hesitant to spend much on a bluetooth OBD tool. I think the one he recommends is around $100.
here is a link to his site for those interested: Torque
Here is a description (from his site linked above) also:
Torque is an engine diagnostics application for Android that allows you to directly monitor your car engine control unit (ECU) and retrieve various information from the sensors connected to it as well as use your phones internal GPS and accelerometer sensors to graph other information such as acceleration
Torque can be used to view any stored fault codes on your vehicles ECU, then, after a mechanic fixing the fault, it also can clear the fault codes allowing you to clear the ‘Check Engine’ light warning on your dashboard
Torque can use a multitude of OBD adapters, ranging from the cheap (and slightly buggy) adapters you can find on ebay, to the more reliable PLX Devices Kiwi Bluetooth and OBDKey which are the amongst the best.
That's pretty damn cool... I'm not a car enthusiast, but even so I kind of want to get one of those BT adapters and try it out
^ yeah, same boat. I have a bad gas cap so my check engine light is CONSTANTLY on. Now I just ignore it because "I KNOW" that's the cause... heaven forbid something else be wrong with my car and I've just ignored it. Would be especially nice since this app also lets you CLEAR THE CODE (no more check engine light).
Really need to find a good/cheap BT adapter that will work with this app!!!
I'm interested in this too. The only thing I wonder about is the Bluetooth connection. There was a thread somewhere about wii remotes not working with some app on the market and the explanation was the Bluetooth version we have (3.0) would require considerable changes to make it work. I don't want to fork out the cash only to find out they are not compatible. I read that thread weeks ago, so I don't remember the particulars. Hopefully, someone will chime in that has already tried it.
Hmm. I've had no issues connecting with a few bluetooth devices... Never really had that concern, hope there are no issues. Wonder if you could return an item for that...
I was going to ask in his forum if anyone has tried it on a Galaxy S of any sort, but I never got the password e-mail. I'll try again later. Here's the thread that is making me balk. Otherwise, I probably wouldn't have given it a second thought.
Bluetooth 3.0 Compatible Controllers for Gaming?
I just got the cheapest BT ODB2 dongle from eBay (<$30), and it works fine on my 2010 Silverado HD. The throttle position sensor didn't seem to work right (my foot does just as well ), but the boost sensor seems like it may have...? I only drove around the block - we'll see when I'm getting on the freeway tomorrow. Being a new truck, there are no SES lights for me to check. Also, my truck has BT for the stereo, and there didn't seem to be any issues being connected to both.
In short, it works just fine for what it seems to be for (simple guages & such).
-bZj
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^ yeah, same boat. I have a bad gas cap so my check engine light is CONSTANTLY on. Now I just ignore it because "I KNOW" that's the cause... heaven forbid something else be wrong with my car and I've just ignored it. Would be especially nice since this app also lets you CLEAR THE CODE (no more check engine light).
Really need to find a good/cheap BT adapter that will work with this app!!!
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A new $10 gas cap and a $25 AutoZone code reader would probably be cheaper and easier.
The gas caps for my car go bad every few months, it's just a design flaw I think. With all of the additional features the app offers + the cool factor, I think its worth it. May give one of the cheaper cables a try.
down8, got a link for the cable you got man?
Awesome + Finally!
I've been waiting for one of these to come out for some time. I have had a BT adapter in my car, as I used it with my Nokia N810 (using a software called CARMAN). It has some +/-'s, but this new software (Torque) is simply amazing.
Ended up using the free version, but purchased as soon as I got home. Will do some more testing and report soon.
I think it is pretty cool app, even though I can scan the codes for free at an AutoZone, but if you mod your car the app will come handy when you need to setup your CAI to by-pass ECU, etc.
I've been playing around with this app using a $30 Chinese bt dongle from ebay. It works great, you don't need the $100 one unless you plan to use it for pro level diagnostics (which some people do). It's got a ton of cool functions, the least of which is being able to read and reset fault codes. But I use for that too. It may not be able to read all the OBD output from your car, for example, it won't list the turbo boost for my Volvo, but that is vehicle dependent. Check out the forums on the dev's site; lots of good info there. Btw, I'm using the paid version.
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^ I think I know which one you are referencing, but I've seen variations. Could you post a link to the one you snagged... I have a saab so perhaps I will have similar success. Thanks for letting me know that.
Wow the developer needs to get on board with CobbTuning for the import enthusiast guys. This tool would be awesome to flash tuned performance maps. My accessport cost me $600+. Pretty awesome. Shame you couldn't just use the sensor to the micro USB.
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^ I think I know which one you are referencing, but I've seen variations. Could you post a link to the one you snagged... I have a saab so perhaps I will have similar success. Thanks for letting me know that.
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Sorry for the delay. Here's a link to the one I purchased. OBDII Scanner - seller autodoctor007. It shipped pretty fast from China.
wow, this is a great idea. i have not tried it yet, as i dont have an obdII to BT, but this looks awesome.
On a side note, as i dont have the obdII/BT connection yet, I do have an OBDII to USB cable. Can this or another app use that? I guess I would have to get a USB to microUSB adaptor to plug into phone.... how about any computer programs that will use the ODB to USB adaptor to monitor car data/engine lights?
s15274n said:
I was curious if any on here have used this app? I love the developer (have his SpeedHUD app)..... If anyone can does use it, I would love your opinion. I am hesitant to spend much on a bluetooth OBD tool. I think the one he recommends is around $100.
here is a link to his site for those interested: Torque
Here is a description (from his site linked above) also:
Torque is an engine diagnostics application for Android that allows you to directly monitor your car engine control unit (ECU) and retrieve various information from the sensors connected to it as well as use your phones internal GPS and accelerometer sensors to graph other information such as acceleration
Torque can be used to view any stored fault codes on your vehicles ECU, then, after a mechanic fixing the fault, it also can clear the fault codes allowing you to clear the ‘Check Engine’ light warning on your dashboard
Torque can use a multitude of OBD adapters, ranging from the cheap (and slightly buggy) adapters you can find on ebay, to the more reliable PLX Devices Kiwi Bluetooth and OBDKey which are the amongst the best.
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im having problems with this app...it crashes on start...which version do u have?
my little review http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1J8JwRPUXI
Awesome, thanks man!
The cheap chinese OBD II don't work with all vehicles so be wary about buying one of the these. I bought one for $25 on ebay and they don't connect with Ford's interface, however it did connect to my Dodge truck.
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I want to play Power Point presentation using my Qtek 9100 on video projector ...
Does anybody know is there a way to do that ? Maybe using some accessory or bluetooth connection if present on projector?
Thanks
You can't
No I am afraid you can't do that.... they haven't given that possibility I really wonder why. When one pays so much this is the one thing that is really missing. A direct TV out.
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...When one pays so much this is the one thing that is really missing. A direct TV out.
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For an additional $10, you'd expect it to fetch your newspaper
SOTI pocket controller
You can do this from the PDA via a PC hooked to the projector using Soft Object Technology's Pocket Controller. I bought it originally for my Wallaby, recently got a Wizard and am using it there now. Nifty application, you can do everything with the desktop image that you can do with the touchscreen, and I think it lets you record a movie of you doing stuff on the PDA.
More info here: http://www.soti.net/
Well worth the registration cost IMO
http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=813
Not sure if it will work with the MDA though.
bendog2784 said:
http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=813
Not sure if it will work with the MDA though.
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That's prety cool I'd get one to try but I keep my presentations on the SD card... LOL kinda hard to show the presentation if I have to take it out...heh. Currently I just transfer the presentation to someone's laptop and use theirs. Kinda "old tech" and not "high tech".
--M
this looks like what you need
hmmmm... would this do the trick???
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=134553&stack=technical&action=open#technical
hanmin said:
For an additional $10, you'd expect it to fetch your newspaper
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Maybe, why not... I am sure it would be more than 10 $!
I see that SpecTec has upgraded to 1024x768. Any other newer options out there?? Thanks!
BT?
I remember seeing that a projector supported bluetooth to transfer images. Wouldn't it be a solution for that, meaning you buy a bluetooth adaptor to hook to your projector and use the internal bluetooth to transmit your presentation? This way the SD port would remain available for the SD memory cards with the presentation.
If one finds it, please share...
-Feaps
lolzzz
you guys are trying to find a complex thoingy for simple thingy
here in pakistan they sell cords modified ofcourse that fit in the usb at one end on the wizard and on the other they go into the TV having that yellow white cords thingy heheheh and itsa for like 300rs making it a bit less than 5 us dollars
hope it elps heheh
where??? give us a link pliz
lolz shops in pakistan arent as advanced as thet are in us or europe im afraid
but if u have someone u know in pakistan u can ask them to get it from hafeez center in lahore pakistan.
sorrry
mony114 said:
lolzzz
you guys are trying to find a complex thoingy for simple thingy
here in pakistan they sell cords modified ofcourse that fit in the usb at one end on the wizard and on the other they go into the TV having that yellow white cords thingy heheheh and itsa for like 300rs making it a bit less than 5 us dollars
hope it elps heheh
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I really wondering what you are 'lolz'-ing at. I'm not sure if you are ignorant or the Pakistan people (who sell the cords) are ignorant. As I have said a million time in this forum, getting the cable (cord) into a socket doesn't mean it works. You can connect a USB to 240V socket, doesn't mean you can charge your unit directly onto the phone (kids, dont try this at home).
How much do you understand about the USB connection, and the video connection (the yellow thing you've mentioned). Not to mentioned that one runs on digital and one runs on analog signal (at a different frequency), they probably runs at a different voltage anyway. And also, the fact that, a Wizard phone doens't have USB host to it, it wont do the job in the way you've mentioned.
You may want to read these as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337114
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314651
Get your facts right and dont burn your phone
I'm looking for a Bluetooth remote to use in my car, to control my G1 when it's hooked up as a music player. This is both a safety and convenience concern.
The starting point is finding a remote control that transmits Bluetooth directly to the G1 (i.e., not infrared or wired). It needs, at a minimum, a forward and a stop button. Reverse, pause, and other functions are nice, but not mandatory.
The other half of the solution is software to control the media program in Android, which may or may not already exist; if not, I'll commission someone to write it. Maybe I can even offer a turnkey system for sale if there's enough interest.
I know someone's will say "search the forums", and I did. What I found seemed to be focus on wired remotes for another HTC phone, or remote controlling your PC with your phone. But if I missed a relevant post, please do correct me.
Ideas are greatly appreciated.
remote
there is a remote for gaming used for the n95 i saw on a website it worked for android on a basic level. maybe that might help. in the development of this
Found this on another thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Wc0KqnW2M that some people are using. Jabra BT3030
Aux cable from car stereo plugged into remote. Remote paired with phone. Not *completely wireless* but atleast you don't have to look at your phone.
Does that get you anywhere?
juphro said:
Found this on another thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Wc0KqnW2M that some people are using. Jabra BT3030
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Hmm, I posted a reply to this, but it isn't showing up. Maybe forgot to submit.
Anyway, thanks for pointing this out. I had seen this a long time ago and forgot all about it. That's exactly the kind of thing I want. Here's the instruction manual, for anyone else who might be interested. It's about US$55.
The only problem I see here is that it'll register as a headset and thereby disable the sound coming out of the extUSB connector in the car.
pistol4413 said:
there is a remote for gaming used for the n95 i saw on a website it worked for android on a basic level. maybe that might help. in the development of this
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It's the Zeemote JS1, and this blog has a video showing it interacting with a G1. This may ultimately be what I'd have to go with... it seems to be designed solely as a controller, without A2DP getting in the way. But looks like it needs some kind of interfacing software, at least on the Nokia. At US$20, I should just get one and play around with it. Cheaper than buying another car stereo with BT built in.
Dual Infrared + Bluetooth Remotes
FWIW, I ran across two rare, interesting items.
One is the RicaVision Vave 100 Universal Remote. Unfortunately, it's $349... but in theory, it would control both your car stereo (via infrared, which the majority of remotes use) and the G1 (via Bluetooth). It's able to "learn" commands from 24 infrared devices, and has a 2.4" 240x320 color LCD screen. No PC or internet connection is needed for configuration.
The screenshots show artist/track info being received from Windows, so it's Media PC-oriented, but still a possibility -- assuming you could program it accordingly. If so, just carry it back and forth between home and car: use it inside for your TV and PC, outside for the car stereo and G1.
The other device is the Ricavision SideShow Remote for the same price, also having IR + BT transmitters. This is purpose-built for Windows SideShow, and has fewer buttons -- volume, play/pause, prev/next, etc. It's smaller than the Vave, but still has a 2.5" QVGA screen. This is perfect for my car setup, but there doesn't seem to be a learning mode or any way to program, so the chances of it working are about zero. Boo!
try the jabra 3030 (dogtag) theyre about $15 on ebay
Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
trigeek said:
Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
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yep they're pretty good once you get a working one
trigeek said:
Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
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Thats what im running right now. works pretty good battery is def not what its said to be though.
Do0zman said:
Thats what im running right now. works pretty good battery is def not what its said to be though.
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mabye you got a faulty one like i did because the first one i got had a 10 minuite battery life lol
trigeek said:
Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
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If that worked in my case it'd be perfect, and it's the smallest form factor yet. The only problem I foresee with this and the Jabra is that they'll want to subvert my wired headphone output over to A2DP. But for $13 I'll probably take a chance.
JJbdoggg said:
yep they're pretty good once you get a working one
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Yeah, buying directly from mainland China, you never know what you'll get -- and if it doesn't work, it's usually pointless return it. But I've bought stuff from DealExtreme before, and dirt cheap, too. Back when I had this flashlight habit....
[OT] Counterfeits
JJbdoggg said:
try the jabra 3030 (dogtag) theyre about $15 on ebay
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Well, I finally bought a Jabra from there. I'll play with it and report back on whether it'll work like I wanted above.
Meanwhile, I didn't realize until looking more closely that most of them were fake. I've been burned by counterfeits before, and sure enough, there are a ton of them on fleaBay. I made this graphic to demonstrate:
Aside from the logos, they look identical. Price is an obvious warning, but not always. Location is another: I'm wary of shipping from Hong Kong. OTOH, just because it says Jabra doesn't mean it's real... the Motorola H700 is another example where it's nearly impossible to tell them apart online.
Unfortunately, even with VeRO and the rules against keyword spamming, this junk can be found all over eBay.
voxluna said:
Well, I finally bought a Jabra from there. I'll play with it and report back on whether it'll work like I wanted above.
Meanwhile, I didn't realize until looking more closely that most of them were fake. I've been burned by counterfeits before, and sure enough, there are a ton of them on fleaBay. I made this graphic to demonstrate:
Aside from the logos, they look identical. Price is an obvious warning, but not always. Location is another: I'm wary of shipping from Hong Kong. OTOH, just because it says Jabra doesn't mean it's real... the Motorola H700 is another example where it's nearly impossible to tell them apart online.
Unfortunately, even with VeRO and the rules against keyword spamming, this junk can be found all over eBay.
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I just got a pair of these and thanks to your illustration, I'm convinced mine are counterfeit works well with all my other phones but the G1.
dixon_coxon said:
I just got a pair of these and thanks to your illustration, I'm convinced mine are counterfeit works well with all my other phones but the G1.
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In theory, if it's able to connect to one phone's A2DP, it should connect to any. But I wonder if it has something to do with the ROM you're running?
I've noticed the G1 needs some finesse when connecting and pairing BT. Also, there are different steps you can take that all arrive at the same result (ergo, lots of trial and error).
Anyway. Now that I have the Jabra, my next problem is keeping A2DP, HSP and AVRCP separate... more on that soon.
voxluna said:
In theory, if it's able to connect to one phone's A2DP, it should connect to any. But I wonder if it has something to do with the ROM you're running?
I've noticed the G1 needs some finesse when connecting and pairing BT. Also, there are different steps you can take that all arrive at the same result (ergo, lots of trial and error).
Anyway. Now that I have the Jabra, my next problem is keeping A2DP, HSP and AVRCP separate... more on that soon.
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Here is whats interesting; I have tried the BT3030 with several ROMS and I get the same results (I even tried it on stock and then rooted). When paired placing and receiving calls work fine. The problem arises when you try to listen to music, the sound skips constantly and I haven't figured a way to fix this permanently. Do you experience this problem (skipping sound)?
dixon_coxon said:
Here is whats interesting; I have tried the BT3030 with several ROMS and I get the same results (I even tried it on stock and then rooted). When paired placing and receiving calls work fine. The problem arises when you try to listen to music, the sound skips constantly and I haven't figured a way to fix this permanently. Do you experience this problem (skipping sound)?
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no skips from BT. see my configuration in my sig.
skesseks said:
no skips from BT. see my configuration in my sig.
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Here is my config see attached. I have tested this with different ROMS ranging from tmobile CRB 43 stock to current xRom. I also have a motorola s9 which works with my G1 with no problems.
dixon_coxon said:
I have tested this with different ROMS ranging from tmobile CRB 43 stock to current xRom. I also have a motorola s9 which works with my G1 with no problems.
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It's strange that it works with one phone and not another. But if it really is a counterfeit, all bets are off -- you may never figure it out.
dixon_coxon said:
Here is whats interesting; I have tried the BT3030 with several ROMS and I get the same results (I even tried it on stock and then rooted). When paired placing and receiving calls work fine. The problem arises when you try to listen to music, the sound skips constantly and I haven't figured a way to fix this permanently. Do you experience this problem (skipping sound)?
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I got 3 knockoff bt3030s back in october (from dinodirect... shady) at $15/ea it was an ok price...
I too have the skipping problems on my Droid, but I just discovered how to fix them. Go into bluetooth settings, long-press the jabra bt3030 device, select options, and deselect phone audio and reconnect the device. Now, no more skips.
I don't know if it's the bt3030's fault, I think it might be an android bug where audio gets routed over phone audio instead of a2dp. This is evidenced by the skipping audio--headset audio only has something like 8khz of bandwidth.
It kind of sucks that phone audio has to be disabled, but in all seriousness, I use the bt3030 for a2dp far more than phone calls, if I need to make a phone call over the bt3030, I'll reconnect the phone audio and disconnect it when I'm done.
Don't know if anyone still cares, but for the record, and for searchers, there are these options:
http://www.scosche.com/products/sfID1/217/sfID2/341/productID/1937
http://www.scosche.com/products/sfID1/217/sfID2/219/productID/1938
Both of these are very expensive though as they are part of large packages for cars. YMMV.
Hi,
So I did a lot of searching and didn't get a definitive answer. Seems as if the
http://onlyandroid.mobihand.com/pro...410&n=HTC Wired Remote Control Stereo Headset
headset works for some people depending on the ROM they have flashed. I have a HTC Rogers Dream with the 32B board and MGLINS 3.1 ROM. I am really curious if I can get this working on my phone. I have the old school casette adaptors and this would sound great on my phone. Plus I am bed ridden for the next few months so I would really love to be able to listen to music then have my hot laptop blasting heat on my face.
Could anybody shed some light on this?
Your HTC device may require a driver for this audio accessory to function correctly. If you experience any problems, then please download the driver from here, once the driver is downloaded, the file name needs to be renamed to zip.
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Looking at your post, i was interested until i saw this. im a little confused on that. But if anyone can confirm this works on the dream on most roms, or what roms, it'd be nice. good find bro
First thing I noticed:
Compatible Devices:
HTC: HTC Hero, HTC Magic
Sprint: Sprint HTC Hero
T-Mobile: T-Mobile myTouch 3G
(One of these phones has built in FM radio?)
Dream/G1 not listed.
I wonder if it would work.
It has a built in microphone and uses any ear phones for the audio.
I can use my Skull candy ear phones with my calls! SWEET!
The file they offer for DL is an .exe file which opens up some cab files.
Funny thing...when I ran the install on my computer, with out the phone hooked up...it told me that I had the latest drivers on my phone and I did not need the file. I guess it's psychic.
Looks like a very nice headset. I wonder how long the cord is?
$7 cheaper on ebay, but they come from China.
Hmmm
[email protected] said:
First thing I noticed:
Compatible Devices:
HTC: HTC Hero, HTC Magic
Sprint: Sprint HTC Hero
T-Mobile: T-Mobile myTouch 3G
(One of these phones has built in FM radio?)
Dream/G1 not listed.
I wonder if it would work.
It has a built in microphone and uses any ear phones for the audio.
I can use my Skull candy ear phones with my calls! SWEET!
The file they offer for DL is an .exe file which opens up some cab files.
Funny thing...when I ran the install on my computer, with out the phone hooked up...it told me that I had the latest drivers on my phone and I did not need the file. I guess it's psychic.
Looks like a very nice headset. I wonder how long the cord is?
$7 cheaper on ebay, but they come from China.
Hmmm
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can't always trust everything that is sold on ebay. there's so many fake merchandise on ebay these days
Suminderji said:
Hi,
So I did a lot of searching and didn't get a definitive answer. Seems as if the
http://onlyandroid.mobihand.com/pro...410&n=HTC Wired Remote Control Stereo Headset
headset works for some people depending on the ROM they have flashed. I have a HTC Rogers Dream with the 32B board and MGLINS 3.1 ROM. I am really curious if I can get this working on my phone. I have the old school casette adaptors and this would sound great on my phone. Plus I am bed ridden for the next few months so I would really love to be able to listen to music then have my hot laptop blasting heat on my face.
Could anybody shed some light on this?
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Before you blow 30 dollars on this wired remote, lemme tell you this.....it DOESN'T WORK for Android phone. I bought the exact remote from a trusted ebay seller (his actual store/warehouse is literally 10 minutes away from my place, and I have meet the person).
The remote function doesn't work at all. Can't start/pause, skip track, etc. on my G1. Although, I tried it on my Tmo Wing (a WinMo phone), and it works flawlessly.
And the .exe file for the supposely driver download, it's WinMo drivers since it the exe file unzips a bunch of .cab files. As far as I know, there's no WIRED remote control for Android phone yet. The only thing that closely resemble that function would be a A2DP bluetooth headset, but bluetooth will suck your phone's battery juice worse that Edward Cullen from Twilight trying to be a vampire.
ichigoismyhomie - it does work for Android phones.
The manufacturer's site specifically states HTC Hero, HTC Magic, Sprint HTC Hero, T-Mobile myTouch 3G
All of which are Android phones.
Did you mean to say that it did not work on your G1?
Seems odd that it it will work on the mt3g, and not even be viable to work on the g1.
The 2 phones are sharing several other things, I wonder if its a simply a line in build.trout.prop file that activates the ability to use the headset.
So the questions are...
Can it be hacked to work?
and
What's it gonna take to do it?
and
Where can we get a headset to test on?
ichigoismyhomie said:
Before you blow 30 dollars on this wired remote, lemme tell you this.....it DOESN'T WORK for Android phone. I bought the exact remote from a trusted ebay seller (his actual store/warehouse is literally 10 minutes away from my place, and I have meet the person).
The remote function doesn't work at all. Can't start/pause, skip track, etc. on my G1. Although, I tried it on my Tmo Wing (a WinMo phone), and it works flawlessly.
And the .exe file for the supposely driver download, it's WinMo drivers since it the exe file unzips a bunch of .cab files. As far as I know, there's no WIRED remote control for Android phone yet. The only thing that closely resemble that function would be a A2DP bluetooth headset, but bluetooth will suck your phone's battery juice worse that Edward Cullen from Twilight trying to be a vampire.
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bummer, i was hoping to pick this up
[email protected] said:
ichigoismyhomie - it does work for Android phones.
The manufacturer's site specifically states HTC Hero, HTC Magic, Sprint HTC Hero, T-Mobile myTouch 3G
All of which are Android phones.
Did you mean to say that it did not work on your G1?
Seems odd that it it will work on the mt3g, and not even be viable to work on the g1.
The 2 phones are sharing several other things, I wonder if its a simply a line in build.trout.prop file that activates the ability to use the headset.
So the questions are...
Can it be hacked to work?
and
What's it gonna take to do it?
and
Where can we get a headset to test on?
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This is getting fishy. I was doing my own investigation on this wired remote. Apparently, the one I bought was a different but quite similar wired remote.
I found the same wired remote that OP mentioned on eBay, but there's 2 different model, E100 and W100. It's probably related to color but whatever.
I'm trying to get an official support from the HTC itself, because I can't see any official, 1st party online store from HTC at all. Every time I google'd "HTC store" or "HTC official store", I keep getting links to 3rd party sites that claims that they carry "official" HTC OEM accessories.
And also just like you said, it seems very odd that the product page for the remote that OP mentioned stated that it will work on mt3g and hero, but G1 is not listed as the compatible device. Those 3 phones are basically almost has the same hardware and inter-compatible software (with some mods of course).
Also, another yellow flag for me is that both eBay and OP's product page says that only use the remote on devices with integrated FM function, which is the feature that none of the HTC's current Android devices has.
so to answer your questions:
Can it be hacked to work (on G1, i presume)?
If anyone can confirm this remote works on mt3g/hero with a video proof, then I'm pretty sure this community can find the patch to make it work on G1.
What's it gonna take to do it?
see answer above
Where can we get a headset to test on?
I think you can always order it from OP's link or eBay. Feel free to try if you have 30 something bucks to burn. As for me, I think I would stay away because all these questionable indications (i.e. self-proclaim OEM title, non-existence for official HTC accessory store/page/info, contradicting product description with the FM-integration and no G1 compatibilty).
It would be really nice if it does work on G1/mt3g/hero, but until I get further info from HTC rep, or someone posted a video of it working properly on an android phone, I wouldn't waste my hard-earned 30 dollars on it.
OK here is what I have discovered...
The OP device. The actual E100 headset is getting mixed reviews.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550377
They are on Hero. Some of them have E100's that work fine, others have faulty ones. Some have exchanged them for units that work, and some are waiting for HTC customer service to respond.
I think that there is either a quality control issue.
OR...
Another possible reason these are not working is the fact that they are equipped with a "HOLD to lock" button. If people are getting remotes that are set to the locked setting, and they don't know how to deactivate the lock, none of the buttons would work. Which is the primary complaint, the headphones work, but none of the buttons do.
By googling - HTC RC E100 Music Remote Control Dream -
I found these things for sale all over the place.
A few list the G1 as a viable phone, MOST do not. Almost all do list the mt3g.
HTC does not appear to sell accessories directly. They sell through the carriers. So I am going to see if I can find one at the Tmo store tomorrow. If I can, I will plug it in on the spot and try it out. If it doesn't work I'll try a few more.
ichigoismyhomie - If you look at the ads, they say "Also, with the built-in FM antenna giving a signal boost, listening to FM radio stations* is crystal clear*"
The note below states "only on devices which have a radio."
The e100 is actually usable on several phones some of which do have radios.
The best list I found was this one:
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Works with: Alltel PPC-6800, Touch, Touch Diamond, Touch Pro / AT&T Tilt2, HTC Pure, Fuze, Tilt / CellularSouth HTC Touch Diamond, HTC 6800 / Cingular 8525 / HTC Hero, Magic, Snap, TyTN II, Touch, P4351, Titan, Apache, S411, Touch Pro2, Touch Diamond2, Touch Pro, Touch Diamond, Touch Cruise, Touch Dual / Sprint Touch, Mogul, Snap, Hero, Touch Pro2, Touch Pro, Touch Diamond / T-Mobile myTouch 3G, Dash 3G, Shadow II, Shadow, Wing, myTouch 3G Fender, Touch Pro2 / US Cellular HTC TouchPro2, HTC TouchPro, HTC Touch / Verizon Touch Diamond, XV6900, XV6800, SMT5800, Ozone, HTC Imagio, Touch Pro2, Touch Pro
Another item of note is that several people who do have working e100 units have stated that the remote buttons only work on the default music player.
Tunewiki has a setting under preferences. Maybe that will allow tunewiki to be used instead.
I also found this, which is listed as working with the G1 specifically.
http://www.g1depot.com/htc-stereo-headphones/11A29A5248.htm
Similar idea, your headphones/ their mic. But no fancy nav buttons.
Serves the same function otherwise, which is my main concern.
Thank you all for looking into it further. I still can't seem to find any solid answer as well so I will hold off on dropping 30 bucks (plus duty etc for Canada).
OK I have called about 20 stores in the Seattle area.
No one carries these things, and those who made recommendations said, "The Web"
Global Marketing pisses me off! If everyone is going to suggest the web as a shopping outlet then we need to just close down physical locations and be done with it!
Sorry side tracked there.
Anyone know a place with a super great return policy?
I'll pony out the cash as long as I can return it if I can't get it working.
Someone with fast shipping, and no BS.
Let me know.
(Damn it now my mouse just broke....Not having a good day.)
So in my fit of rage at my mouse....
I went to ebay and found an OEM headset that allows you to add your own head phones.
Since this is the basics of what I want for my phone, and they were only $6 with shipping, I bought them.
I could not find the rc e100 for less than $25 and I was willing to lose the $6, but not the $25.
Also the OEM version is supposedly made for the G1.
I'll let you know how it does when it gets here.
I will continue to look for the rc e100.
But I have come across a few more forums which state that the HTC rc e100 does not work properly in a lot of phones.
Ironically, some of the more detailed feed back has been under our noses the whole time.
Go to the main xda forum page and do search for HTC RC E100 You'll get 200 hits in the XDA forums alone. (201 if you include this post. )
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I also found this, which is listed as working with the G1 specifically.
http://www.g1depot.com/htc-stereo-headphones/11A29A5248.htm
Similar idea, your headphones/ their mic. But no fancy nav buttons.
Serves the same function otherwise, which is my main concern.
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That's the exact adapter that I use right now in my car for my hands-free calling. I've had several different type, but this one has the best built quality. I hooked it up to my tape deck (or you can also hook it up to AUX in if you have one) and I can have the same function as having a fancy BT stereo system in my car.
Until the E100 is confirmed to work on G1, that adapter won't be going anywhere soon.
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Another item of note is that several people who do have working e100 units have stated that the remote buttons only work on the default music player.
Tunewiki has a setting under preferences. Maybe that will allow tunewiki to be used instead.
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I bought an OEM/clone RC-E100 remote (branded 'Well' on the clip) for my T-Mobile G2 (aka HTC Hero) from eBay: cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200430375837
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mobilitydigest.com/oem-htc-headsfree-with-mp3-remote-controller-adapter-reviewed/
I can confirm that the play/pause and skip buttons do not work with any player I tested (Last.fm, HTC default) but DO work with TuneWiki. Thanks for the hint!
I live in the Netherlands and bought the G1 the day it came out, and hence never received a mini-usb -> 3.5 adapter. I've looked everywhere in stores here and in the states and in the UK (I travel a lot) but I can't seem to find it anywhere in stores. Something like this would be ideal.
[email protected] said:
So in my fit of rage at my mouse....
I went to ebay and found an OEM headset that allows you to add your own head phones.
Since this is the basics of what I want for my phone, and they were only $6 with shipping, I bought them.
I could not find the rc e100 for less than $25 and I was willing to lose the $6, but not the $25.
Also the OEM version is supposedly made for the G1.
I'll let you know how it does when it gets here.
I will continue to look for the rc e100.
But I have come across a few more forums which state that the HTC rc e100 does not work properly in a lot of phones.
Ironically, some of the more detailed feed back has been under our noses the whole time.
Go to the main xda forum page and do search for HTC RC E100 You'll get 200 hits in the XDA forums alone. (201 if you include this post. )
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This is the adapter that came with the G1 in some cases. It's nice, but I find the adapter to be way too long without having to bundle it with twist tie.
[email protected] said:
I also found this, which is listed as working with the G1 specifically.
http://www.g1depot.com/htc-stereo-headphones/11A29A5248.htm
Similar idea, your headphones/ their mic. But no fancy nav buttons.
Serves the same function otherwise, which is my main concern.
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You can get the same one here at Cnn.cn for only $8.99 plus S&H:
http://cnn.cn/shop/u110-headset-p-5472.html
I just ordered one. I don't have experience with this remote but I've had many positive experiences with cnn.cn. Everything they say is OEM is in fact OEM and genuine.
I just saw this on Reddit; might be old news to some, but this is the first I've heard about it. Apparently there is a $1.38 (on Amazon.com) cable that allows you to connect various USB devices, and if the device supports USB OTG, you can run flash or powered hard (not portable) drives, keyboards, mice, or even a hub to use more than one. If the device doesn't, it can be added with root, or included in a ROM. I'm not a developer. I'm not even a programmer, so I don't have the first idea on how this could be done. But a Bluetooth keyboard is around $80, and this will allow a $10 keyboard to be used, or a $10 mouse, for a cost of about $12 for one, $22 for both, plus whatever a hub goes for. So having USB OTG could save some folks a lot of money. Plus if they want to use a USB controller for gaming, they can save the cost of a PS3 controller entirely (about $40).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240082
Please use the search feature. This is not a development topic because support already exists. I detail everything necessary for USB OTG on the Photon in the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28552795&postcount=2
MODS: This is not a development topic. Please move to Q&A or Accessories. Thanks!
There is a report button. The message goes directly to the Moderator. I would like if someone else would do it too and not only me.
This one is reported already.
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There is a report button. The message goes directly to the Moderator. I would like if someone else would do it too and not only me.
This one is reported already.
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peetr_ said:
There is a report button. The message goes directly to the Moderator. I would like if someone else would do it too and not only me.
This one is reported already.
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Done.
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Also reported...
Do not spam him. One is enough.
Thanks for the information. Did not know the topic was off limits - noted for future reference. Cheers!
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Thanks for the information. Did not know the topic was off limits - noted for future reference. Cheers!
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After reading my response and the subsequent responses, I realize that it probably came off flame-ish. My apologies. It wasn't so much the topic as it was posted in the dev forum. They frown on that, unfortunately.
I am open to questions if you have any regarding USB OTG. I had to mess around with various USB configurations until I found the right connections. When it works, it just works. But figuring it out from a Youtube video in another language made me want to write a guide. I hope it helps.
Good luck!
Well, I have a USB OTG cable coming at some point in the next week. I only paid 90¢ for it on Amazon, so it's not a huge loss if it doesn't work. I will consult your guide when I get it, if it doesn't just work. Obviously I'm gonna hook it up and try it as soon as I get the package.
I have two devices intended for it -- a 10" mini keyboard I got on Newegg for $15 (shipped). If I can't get this to work at all (and I'm sure I will be able to), I can use the keyboard for our bedroom computer, which has a half-broken, dirty, unwieldy "ergonomic" keyboard hooked up to it (and toss that one). Also a wired Xbox 360 controller, for mobile gaming.
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Well, I have a USB OTG cable coming at some point in the next week. I only paid 90¢ for it on Amazon, so it's not a huge loss if it doesn't work. I will consult your guide when I get it, if it doesn't just work. Obviously I'm gonna hook it up and try it as soon as I get the package.
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The Chainfire program should be able to step you through the diagnostics of it. The biggest trick is getting enough power supplied to the phone plus the devices.
Dark Reality said:
I have two devices intended for it -- a 10" mini keyboard I got on Newegg for $15 (shipped). If I can't get this to work at all (and I'm sure I will be able to), I can use the keyboard for our bedroom computer, which has a half-broken, dirty, unwieldy "ergonomic" keyboard hooked up to it (and toss that one). Also a wired Xbox 360 controller, for mobile gaming.
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Any device that fully implements the standard USB HID protocol should just plug and play. A wired XBOX 360 controller should work, as well as the keyboard... as long as they don't require proprietary software/drivers to operate properly.
For my gaming solution, I went with the Sixaxis drivers for pairing with a PS3 controller through Bluetooth. That was pretty neat and it works. As far as keyboards, I have a wireless Logitech K400 with a touchpad which is fully functional. Using the one USB dongle which uses Logitech's 'Unifying' technology, I also have a Logitech M570 trackball mouse. So essentially, I carry a pocket-sized computer with me everywhere I go. Who needs a laptop?
Self-Powered USB Hubs work great with this setup, you can have multiple devices and Android (being based on Linux) will handle it as long as the kernel has the drivers built in. I've been having trouble trying to get external storage to work under CM7, but I also haven't been working to figure that out.
zansatsu said:
The Chainfire program should be able to step you through the diagnostics of it. The biggest trick is getting enough power supplied to the phone plus the devices.
Any device that fully implements the standard USB HID protocol should just plug and play. A wired XBOX 360 controller should work, as well as the keyboard... as long as they don't require proprietary software/drivers to operate properly.
For my gaming solution, I went with the Sixaxis drivers for pairing with a PS3 controller through Bluetooth. That was pretty neat and it works. As far as keyboards, I have a wireless Logitech K400 with a touchpad which is fully functional. Using the one USB dongle which uses Logitech's 'Unifying' technology, I also have a Logitech M570 trackball mouse. So essentially, I carry a pocket-sized computer with me everywhere I go. Who needs a laptop?
Self-Powered USB Hubs work great with this setup, you can have multiple devices and Android (being based on Linux) will handle it as long as the kernel has the drivers built in. I've been having trouble trying to get external storage to work under CM7, but I also haven't been working to figure that out.
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Hi! =)
I wonder if there is a way to use the Gear S as a wifi hotspot? I got a SIM card with monthly unlimited data traffic.
Thought it would be nice if one could mount it inside a Gear S, and share internet connection with all other devices around, just as if it was a wifi hotspot/wireless router.
So far, I have figured out a way to share the Wi-Fi. Samsung recently released an update that added the ability to modify the APNs. Which I was surprised happened...due to the rumors that the providers are working on taking over the watch/phone remote features. This is why the prices vary.... ATT wants ONLY ATT phones to work with ATT connected watches.
Right now, that's not the case. The remote notifications are handled by Samsung's servers.
Once we get root, a lot will change.
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Hi! =)
I wonder if there is a way to use the Gear S as a wifi hotspot? I got a SIM card with monthly unlimited data traffic.
Thought it would be nice if one could mount it inside a Gear S, and share internet connection with all other devices around, just as if it was a wifi hotspot/wireless router.
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No, there is no app or built in features like that. Even it could, the tiny battery inside can't sustain more than 10-minutes.
I'm on a family shared plan. All my phones can be used as wifi hotspot so I know how it works (or not working in case of the watch).
It's not possible/practical due to current state of tech - as mentioned already the battery life wouldn't work out. I'm looking forward to a time where my sole voice and data plan could be just on the watch and I could tether that to any devices as OP is describing.
Imagine your watch is always with you so the crucial communications is always there, but when you need a more comfortable form factor to consume and create you would take the small handset/tablet/laptop with you and the watch shares it's data with those devices. For voice you could use the headset or speakerphone from the watch the way it works now.
Samsung is on the right track for this, but due to the way they've mis-handled their entire Tizen watch platform, I don't have any confidence in them succeeding. I say this as one who owns and loves his Gear 2 Neo and laments that it's potential is held back by poor support and business decisions.
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It's not possible/practical due to current state of tech - as mentioned already the battery life wouldn't work out. I'm looking forward to a time where my sole voice and data plan could be just on the watch and I could tether that to any devices as OP is describing.
Imagine your watch is always with you so the crucial communications is always there, but when you need a more comfortable form factor to consume and create you would take the small handset/tablet/laptop with you and the watch shares it's data with those devices. For voice you could use the headset or speakerphone from the watch the way it works now.
Samsung is on the right track for this, but due to the way they've mis-handled their entire Tizen watch platform, I don't have any confidence in them succeeding. I say this as one who owns and loves his Gear 2 Neo and laments that it's potential is held back by poor support and business decisions.
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Thanks all of you guys, for your replies with thoughts and info on this! =)
Perhaps someone will one day manufacture a nice looking wristband/bracelet with inbuilt battery powerpack that connects to Gear, wearing it on arm next to the Gear S, that has enough mAh to supply it's hotspot. And someone makes a root hotspot app for it... or not, haha. Maybe not a good idea, but it would for sure be nice if it could be used as a wifi hotspot.
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Thanks all of you guys, for your replies with thoughts and info on this! =)
Perhaps someone will one day manufacture a nice looking wristband/bracelet with inbuilt battery powerpack that connects to Gear, wearing it on arm next to the Gear S, that has enough mAh to supply it's hotspot. And someone makes a root hotspot app for it... or not, haha. Maybe not a good idea, but it would for sure be nice if it could be used as a wifi hotspot.
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I remember seeing a KS campaign for wearable battery packs. One of them was a wristband.
So, the idea exists...just a matter of time before they're going to make it to the mainstream market.
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Hopefully Samsung will get together with Seiko at some point & throw some kinetic tech in these watches.. Combine that with something like powerfelt to take advantage of body heat, maybe some photovoltaic paint & we'll have decent battery life. Of course the watch will be pretty ridiculous looking, but I'll prob buy one anyway. Really we just need Elon Musk to start making cell phone batteries & we'll be all good.
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Thanks all of you guys, for your replies with thoughts and info on this! =)
Perhaps someone will one day manufacture a nice looking wristband/bracelet with inbuilt battery powerpack that connects to Gear, wearing it on arm next to the Gear S, that has enough mAh to supply it's hotspot. And someone makes a root hotspot app for it... or not, haha. Maybe not a good idea, but it would for sure be nice if it could be used as a wifi hotspot.
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Sgnl Smartband is self powered with flexible batteries in the band and ability to make calls using your finger touched to your temple by your ear. Works on bone conduction using a Transducer instead of a speaker. You can use it as sort of a smartwatch with a standard watch. But the problem is that Sgnl being a sort of Skunkworks Project in Samsung's R&D Business Incubator and it seems they are so screwed up as a Kickstarter Project that they failed to launch multiple times and we're still waiting for devices to be shipped.
They are indeed using Samsung's newest flexible battery technology. Only because wiring issues it's in a hard stiff case. I tried a prototype on at a tech show and tested it as working. Now we just have to wait for them to ship. I'm not sure if they are including a wireless charger interface with the strap that could actually charge your Gear Smartwatch or not. But this is what I imagine a wrist battery would be like. No links allowed for me.... sorry!
So if they get active charging feature going and it's been requested as a feature in future models...... then you can keep it charging off the wristband batteries. They offer phone wireless charging interfaces on ebay. I would think they could be modified for use behind the back of the Gear Smartwatch with plug in to Sgnl Smartband. Running charging all the time would make capable of being a Wifi hotspot! ........but I wouldn't expect an App until Gear S3 gets rooted!