[Q] stupid upgrade to iphone 4.0.2 - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i upgraded my unlocked 3gs 3.1.2 to 4.0.2. can this be reversed? been getting 3194 error.

Man this is xda-dev forum. If you put iPhone in here it must say "****ING PIECE OF CRAP **** I HATE IT, AND STEVE JOBS CAN SUCK IT".
But it'd be childish, wouldn't it? SO.. no you can't fix your iPhone. Whenever the is "i" before it you can not fix it.

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[Q] OMG some people are just stupid.

I've come across some people that when they see my phone, they're like is that an iPhone and im like no, its a Vibrant. It happened more than twice and i find it annoying how people can mistake the Vibrant for an iphone.
So question is Has it happened to you and do you find it annoying?
No one under the age of 40 mistakes my Vibrant for an iPhone. Everyone I know, everyone I go to school with it, etc. etc. knows it's a Galaxy S.
The only time someone ever mistook it for something else was when my neighbor asked me if it was a Captivate.
NCn1 said:
I've come across some people that when they see my phone, they're like is that an iPhone and im like no, its a Vibrant. It happened more than twice and i find it annoying how people can mistake the Vibrant for an iphone.
So question is Has it happened to you and do you find it annoying?
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Well, Samsung did mirror the iphones physical appearance with this particular device......and since the iphone is marketed 100x more than the Vibrant, which is pretty much outdated anyway, what do you expect people to think if theyve never owned a vibrant?
WITH THAT SAID, it is quite annoying
Once I got "Is that Samsung's iPhone?" I couldn't quite fault them, they knew what it was even though it was a fairly insulting way to put it. The best, though, was going through a checkout while my 4 year old played Angry Birds. The clerk got jealous - "Is that that new Samsung???!" Asked a bunch of questions. Clearly knew it was Android, some basic specs, though she'd never touched any sort of smart phone before. Rare example of an educated (non techy) consumer.
NCn1 said:
I've come across some people that when they see my phone, they're like is that an iPhone and im like no, its a Vibrant. It happened more than twice and i find it annoying how people can mistake the Vibrant for an iphone.
So question is Has it happened to you and do you find it annoying?
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well like the guy above me said... the vibrant is a mirror image of the iPhone 3g and 3gs ,just slightly bigger.
as far as ppl mistakingly my vibrant as an iphone,it doesnt annoy me as much as people throwing the DROID name out and about.... droid this,droid that, is that a droid phone,etc.
DROID is nothing but a BRAND NAME used by Verizon for SELECTED android handsets.
Yeah, the SGS line (and Vibrant in particular) heavily ape the old iPhone designs, even down to the fake-chrome bezel.
I'd certainly forgive somebody who had never used the devices for mistaking one for the other.
Yea I can't believe the stupidity involved in mistaking my phone for an iPhone. Don't people know anything? Aaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!! I have flashcards with pictures of phones on one side and the name on the other. I regularly quiz myself. The last thing I want to do is look like a complete idiot OMG
brian_v3ntura said:
as far as ppl mistakingly my vibrant as an iphone,it doesnt annoy me as much as people throwing the DROID name out and about.... droid this,droid that, is that a droid phone,etc.
DROID is nothing but a BRAND NAME used by Verizon for SELECTED android handsets.
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The "Droid" thing is probably more annoying than someone mistaking it for an iphone. But the best is:
Dumbass: "Is that an iPhone?"
Me: "No actually it....."
Dumbass: "Ohhh its a Droid."
Me: "No its a Galaxy S, but Android is the operating system, just like the Droid"
Dumbass: "Oh ok, so then you have Verizon?"
Me: **punches dumbass in face**
I wouldn't call people stupid for mistaking a phone that looks similar. I'll admit, I don't know much about cars. Doesn't make me stupid that I don't know all car models and may have mistaken some similar models for another one.
Take it as an opportunity to inform people about Android and the Vibrant. I tell people that looks like an iPhone but it's so much better. Then I show them examples (or course I wouldn't do this in front of strangers when I don't feel safe).
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I wouldn't call people stupid for mistaking a phone that looks similar. I'll admit, I don't know much about cars. Doesn't make me stupid that I don't know all car models and may have mistaken some similar models for another one.
Take it as an opportunity to inform people about Android and the Vibrant. I tell people that looks like an iPhone but it's so much better. Then I show them examples (or course I wouldn't do this in front of strangers when I don't feel safe).
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Then I suggest you take a look at them VW MK4 R32's...really nice
Seriously though i agree with you when i get that opportunity I try to inform people about the phone and how awesome android is compared to the iphone.
Saiboogu said:
Once I got "Is that Samsung's iPhone?" I couldn't quite fault them, they knew what it was even though it was a fairly insulting way to put it. The best, though, was going through a checkout while my 4 year old played Angry Birds. The clerk got jealous - "Is that that new Samsung???!" Asked a bunch of questions. Clearly knew it was Android, some basic specs, though she'd never touched any sort of smart phone before. Rare example of an educated (non techy) consumer.
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The same exact thing happened to me, except my son is 2 and the cashier thought it was some new gaming system, and she really wasn't that educated either.
OK, so it was actually nothing like your experience.
I'm sure u guys don't know every single phones name in the world.
It happens. And vibrant does look like a iPhone from a bit of distance.
I'm just annoyed when I say I have a android powered phone they auto think I have a Droid x or pro....
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To be perfectly honest, I don't think comparing the Vibrant to the iPhone is an insult. The iPhone is a top notch smartphone by consumer standards and if someone thinks my phone is as cool as an iPhone then I'll suck it up and take that with stride.
mmalott said:
To be perfectly honest, I don't think comparing the Vibrant to the iPhone is an insult. The iPhone is a top notch smartphone by consumer standards and if someone thinks my phone is as cool as an iPhone then I'll suck it up and take that with stride.
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Exactly!
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phreakz said:
The same exact thing happened to me, except my son is 2 and the cashier thought it was some new gaming system, and she really wasn't that educated either.
OK, so it was actually nothing like your experience.
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Don't be so hard on yourself. Both stories had children playing AB, both involved a cashier, and there may have been shopping carts. That last part is pure conjecture, but is a reasonable assumption.
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brian_v3ntura said:
well like the guy above me said... the vibrant is a mirror image of the iPhone 3g and 3gs ,just slightly bigger.
as far as ppl mistakingly my vibrant as an iphone,it doesnt annoy me as much as people throwing the DROID name out and about.... droid this,droid that, is that a droid phone,etc.
DROID is nothing but a BRAND NAME used by Verizon for SELECTED android handsets.
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Actually that annoys me as much as people mistaking my Vibrant as an iPhone. i always correct them and tell them its Android.
strikerx312 said:
Then I suggest you take a look at them VW MK4 R32's...really nice
Seriously though i agree with you when i get that opportunity I try to inform people about the phone and how awesome android is compared to the iphone.
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Fellow VW enthusiast...NICE to meet you!
Maybe because that iphone is more popular and having this mistakes is not stupid.
Blame Samsung, from a distance it looks exactly like an iphone. The chrome bezel doesn't help. But im probably the only user to blindly pick up my phone upside down. Lol
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Yes, I definitely agree with the phone being mistaken for an iphone. Even the software (touch wiz) almost looks like an iphone. People really think its an iphone. When I tell them what it is you can see naturally that they think the phone is a knockoff iphone. We should not get mad. We knew this before we bought/traded/found/stole (however you happen to own the phone) the Vibrant.
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[Q] The Horns of Dilemma

So I just bought a Vibrant last week.
Then Samsung/Tmobile releases news that a vibrant 4g is in the works.
Now I'm on the fence on whether to sell my Vibrant and pick up a Nexus S.
I love the vibrant, especially in rooted and custom rom form, but I'm not a coder and terrible at understanding how this works so making a custom rom for myself is kinda out right now.
But like most people on this forum, I'm not happy with the fact that Samsung has kinda abandoned the customers that originally bought the first iteration of the Galaxy S from tmobile.
I've noticed that support for the phone from developers on xda has taken a subtle downturn.
I really really appreciate the efforts of tw and other dedicated developers, but without source code for vibrant for 2.2/2.3 and other android versions, how long can developers keep this up for?
I didn't want the nexus s as I see it as another galaxy s phone (fragmentation anyone?), but with its vanilla android versions and constant support from Google, I see it having longevity over the Vibrant.
I figured if Samsung were to release official froyo for the vibrant soon then nothing to worry about, but with the impending release of the vibrant 4g.......well hopefully you understand what I'm getting at.
Am I completely off the mark on this one? Is there something I'm not understanding? What are your guys/girls opinion?
Dude, there is Android 2.3.1 from Nexus S ported to my old HTC HD2 and it's working fine and bug-less. Meanwhile you are waiting for 2.2, who is a *****?
woah woah, exploit.. calm down
Any ways, back to your dilemma, i think sticking with the vibrant is what u shood do personally, but if you have the money to afford a nexus s i say go for it.. rite now i dont have to worry about the vibrant 4g or nexus competing with my vibrant cuz there all basically the same, it kinda jus matters where your at. If you have 4g coverage go get a 4g phone, if not stick with the vibrant and install a FFC and you basically have a Vibrant 4G or Nexus S
If you just bought it last week, take it back. You can get the Nexus S now with that upgrade or wait for the Vibrant Plus.
If you keep it, you will be kicking yourself in a few months when you can't take it back anymore.
It still depends on where he lives, the Vibrant is a true competitor phone and with sum serious development it cood be one of the best. The only thing it lacks is the 4g that the Nexus S and Vibrant plus have which if he doesnt even have 4g coverage it wont matter if he has 4g
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It still depends on where he lives, the Vibrant is a true competitor phone and with sum serious development it cood be one of the best. The only thing it lacks is the 4g that the Nexus S and Vibrant plus have which if he doesnt even have 4g coverage it wont matter if he has 4g
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Thats where the dilemma lies, serious development.
Is it going to persist for at least the next 6 months to a year?
Even the nexus one has strong support from 3rd party developers, I would hate to see the vibrant disappear into yesterdays technology so quickly because of a lack of developer support.
btw, I've tried understanding some of this geekspeak, but my knowledge on this stuff is too rudimentary for me to make my own rom.
Technology I love you, but why are you doing this too me?
I won't be getting 4g coverage anytime soon, but its developer support that makes the horns of dilemma rear its sharp points towards me
yeah thats what im hoping for too is long term development, but think about the Behold 2.. it was only sposed to get 1.6 and out of no where got 2.2.1
And to make sure that development doesnt stop with the vibrant im going to be trying to learn all the stuff that it takes to build roms and do all that fun stuff..
Dont worry i wont let you down
You get 14 days to return it no questions asked! No need to sell it!
If you're having second thoughts just return it and wait for the new one!
Personally I would wait for the new phones with dual processor like the LG or something like that!
The Vibrant is so 2010! Lol!
I love my Vibrant, but I know something bigger and better is around the corner!
Just my 2¢!
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Take it back while you can. The Vibrant is a GREAT phone and still is very capable but since you just started your contract you should return it because it appears that Samsung is kicking Vibrant to the curb in favor of the Plus. The Plus is starting out with Froyo while the Vibrant is still stuck on Eclair. I dont know what the Devs will do but it wouldnt surprise me if they abandon the Vibrant.
yeah but then even after that sumthin big and better comes around another sumthing big and better comes around... so no matter what you do ur gonna be S.O.L.
they wont abandon the vibrant.. i wont at least.
seriously the Behold 2 2.2.1 rom is absolutely mind blowing since samsung dropped it with only android 1.6
it jus shows that anything is possible with todays technology
quest4fire said:
Take it back while you can. The Vibrant is a GREAT phone and still is very capable but since you just started your contract you should return it because it appears that Samsung is kicking Vibrant to the curb in favor of the Plus. The Plus is starting out with Froyo while the Vibrant is still stuck on Eclair. I dont know what the Devs will do but it wouldnt surprise me if they abandon the Vibrant.
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Yeah, this is exactly what I'm trying to avoid doing. I'm Canadian, tmobile doesn't operate up here, but we have an AWS provider that offers unlimited plans. So its a buy and sell situation here. I won't have any problems selling this phone but it can be a hassle.
I love this phone.
Its slick, fast, and has everything I need except proper software.
Dglowen I hear you brother (or sister). I want to be optimistic about this phone and I think it'll continue having support, but I have a feeling it'll be fringe support rather then mainstream.
Man I need to learn to code.......
don't get the 4g if you're going to return your vibrant. get the nexus S. the new vibrant is not worth it.
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quest4fire said:
Take it back while you can. The Vibrant is a GREAT phone and still is very capable but since you just started your contract you should return it because it appears that Samsung is kicking Vibrant to the curb in favor of the Plus. The Plus is starting out with Froyo while the Vibrant is still stuck on Eclair. I dont know what the Devs will do but it wouldnt surprise me if they abandon the Vibrant.
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Haha, "starting out" with Froyo? Based on Samsung's history, good chance 2.2 will be the last official release for it.
If he gets the plus, won't the plus be the ugly stepsister in a few months when Samsung wants to push their next phone.
Take the Vibrant back and wait.
If I was in your sitch I would use the return window. If you have a handset that you can use for the time being wait for the dual core that should be coming.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
Yeah idk.. i think that keeping a vibrant wood be worth it but its always kool to have the latest fone out too.. even tho i been sayin keep the vibrant, it wood make more sense to get the newer fone
Whatever I decide, I just hope that the support for this phone continues and doesn't disappear quietly into the night. It definitely deserves official and mainstream support imo.

Full Froyo OTA File (Not a ROM)

Well.... It has happened again... I get an OTA and the ish talking starts bout me holding back the "community"... So again I'm going to release the file I have... This time will be a little different though. I stated VERY clearly in the radio thread what I was doing and the fact that this OTA WILL NOT FLASH nor will anyone know wtf to do with it.... No one listened and instead ran their necks so F it.... Once you realize that there are several hundred .p patch files that will need to be applied to individual files, in succession, through 5 builds, then figuring out what kind of patches they are to begin with, then figuring out you need a specific binary to apply them, one you cant get, your on the right track.... Good luck with that... I'm sorry about this but honestly I'm tired of working on a device I don't even use, for days and days, with pneumonia mind you, for people to talk ish and complain about what I am doing. So I'm gonna leave it in the hands of the "well wishers" and let them take care of this for you guys... To those that havent *****ed, I apologize, but I'm pretty fed up with the amount of ignorance around here... So anyways, heres your OTA... Have fun with it and I will stop back by with an "I told you so" every now and then.... CR
Froyo Espresso OTA
lol im glad i have an epic. i just wanted to see what you were talking about in your twitter feed
People are still saying you're holding back from the community? Yeah, they're definitely ignorant. :/ I wasn't exactly around when this stuff was going on before, but I was lurking and even then it was pretty dumb.
Sorry that it has to happen this way, CR! Thank you for the work you've contributed thus far and all the great gifts you come bearing when you stop by.(Like this latest radio).
Well thanks to everyone who whines and *****es... a true dev comes along to help and you find a way to make him leave haha.. thanks CR for the work and trying mate. Good thing I'm getting new G2 on Tuesday
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This is really sad... damn ungrateful people...
Thanks for everything CR
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Well, I managed to update to this using some secret sauce, but I have now permanently lost root and S-OFF. Exploid and Rage Against the Cage-based exploits DO NOT WORK on this version of the kernel (2.6.32.29) included in this OTA.
On the plus side it does have USB/Wifi tethering built-in, so my need for root has dramatically decreased.
Just stick with whatever you have now until a new exploit comes out for >= 2.6.32.29, but don't hold your breath since it's unlikely ANY time soon.
:/ it is sad....at least you gave us the radio! And actually tried to patch the files! Thanks for all the work....hope you come back!
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There is a quick and simple solution to this problem and I think that most will agre that it is for the better of the community.\
First call these people out by name, post their PM's if any publicly
Then have their accounts suspended for no less than 30 days.
How dare someone make a statement like that, We got what 1 maybe 2 developers left with this device? Are you flipping kidding me? You asses are sitting there complaining about how the development on this device is dead, yet when someone has something, and is working n something you jump the freaking gun with stupid ill thought out comments.
So now it up to you lil ^itches that think you know everything to develop for this device. You wanted what he had released so freaking bad. So lets see what ya got... Hell there is no reason why you should not be able to crank out a working ROM with what he released by the of the day today.... I mean hell if you can't then YOU held back development of this phone.
XDA needs to do something about this.
The whole 10 post rule is BS. It does nothing
I think it needs to become a pay to play forum
I know thats not how it SHOULD be, and that it
COULD hinder development. but I DOUBT it.
Personally.....
CR your work is awesome, I appreciate it very much. Thank you for what you have done,
to the ^itches.... Thanks now I gotta go buy a new damn phone, that developers want to work on. Hopefully you are broke ass kids and cant afford a new one and will stay here and die with this forum, and phone. After all you started this...
Wow CR this sux that people's ignorance has to stop us from getting froyo finally with flash possibilities. This sux...
Thanks Chief for all the hard work. I thought your last update was the best rom and didn't have any problems. I guess its time to upgrade.
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I am pretty sure I know who it was... If you read through the RADIO thread there are 2 or 3 that were practically begging for the files he had.
I wont call them out myself being that I DONT FOR SURE KNOW. but if you read through there you could possibly figure it out. I am not encouraging anything, but I am sure a few people around here know of a few ways that will have their ISP shut them down for a day or so....
atlmatt said:
There is a quick and simple solution to this problem and I think that most will agre that it is for the better of the community.\
First call these people out by name, post their PM's if any publicly
Then have their accounts suspended for no less than 30 days.
How dare someone make a statement like that, We got what 1 maybe 2 developers left with this device? Are you flipping kidding me? You asses are sitting there complaining about how the development on this device is dead, yet when someone has something, and is working n something you jump the freaking gun with stupid ill thought out comments.
So now it up to you lil ^itches that think you know everything to develop for this device. You wanted what he had released so freaking bad. So lets see what ya got... Hell there is no reason why you should not be able to crank out a working ROM with what he released by the of the day today.... I mean hell if you can't then YOU held back development of this phone.
XDA needs to do something about this.
The whole 10 post rule is BS. It does nothing
I think it needs to become a pay to play forum
I know thats not how it SHOULD be, and that it
COULD hinder development. but I DOUBT it.
Personally.....
CR your work is awesome, I appreciate it very much. Thank you for what you have done,
to the ^itches.... Thanks now I gotta go buy a new damn phone, that developers want to work on. Hopefully you are broke ass kids and cant afford a new one and will stay here and die with this forum, and phone. After all you started this...
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you took the words right out my mouth
Chief wasn't the only one being bugged about the files. I've got a crap load of PMs and tweets asking me for the ota. I'm doing my best to provide CR with the files he needs to get this working for you guys. Hell, I don't even have a slide. Did I have to contact Chief letting him in on the file? Nope. If you guys would have waited a day or 2, you probably would have had a working OTA. But no, you had to keep *****ing to me and CR.
Chief, if you still want the files, hit me up on G and ill grab them.
Krylon360™
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Most of the people who wanted to see this zip released are not at all interested in actually running this rom. In fact, the more interesting bits are the sdio and tiwlan files that we might be able to fix the still-borked wifi in CM7.
Chiefz: nobody intended to give you ****, but there is absolute truth in the saying that many hands make light work. The more people looking at this, the more likely it is that it can be put to good use. The folks in #mytouchslide will be putting lots of eyes on this to see what outstanding issues we might be able to fix.
Thank you for releasing this and I'm sorry if you felt people were hassling you.
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Chief wasn't the only one being bugged about the files. I've got a crap load of PMs and tweets asking me for the ota. I'm doing my best to provide CR with the files he needs to get this working for you guys. Hell, I don't even have a slide. Did I have to contact Chief letting him in on the file? Nope. If you guys would have waited a day or 2, you probably would have had a working OTA. But no, you had to keep *****ing to me and CR.
Chief, if you still want the files, hit me up on G and ill grab them.
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Thanks for the great help mate and as to CR if you read this hopefully you can understand that there is more good apples than the bad ones mate. Thanks either way with the final choice you make!
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Chiefz, don't listen to those noobs. You do a great job here and we all appreciate you as a hard working person that always brings good stuff to the forum and as a very good friend no matter what you do.
Thanks for all
Damn whiny 12 year olds.. you can't escape their wrath!!
2.2.1 Rooted OTA..u will be missed.
i personally think this was a good move to shut the people up that dont know what they are doing (like myself, (-) the talking crap part). but now that you have made your point chiefz, you should really continue your work. you would have the praise of the community!
No this was not a good move. It has left so many of without any hope of ever making our phones just that much cooler, that much better...
I am pissed off to the point I am shopping for a new phone today
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that sucks, but i don't blame you. thanks for everything, mang.

Has anyone heard of this?

When you unlock the rezound the screen just goes blue for some reason? my friend who i sold a rezound to is telling me she's had this happen to her 4 times already, and i can't see it until saturday, so i wanted to see if any of you have had this before. i'm gonna be pissed if i sold her a faulty phone, damnit!
i searched online and can't find this issue anywhere.
I've had it go to the white HTC screen while Sense booted up a few times, but never blue screen. I would think that something is wrong with the phone.
ugh. this blows. i talked her out of the iphone too, which is what i do for everyone, and now she's gonna be like WAH CRAPPY ANDROID SUCKS WAH. sigh.
Sounds like you talked her into a phone she didn't need anyway. Why would someone talk someone else out of getting what they want? I mean there's room for iPhones in this world too, same as there's room for people that work at McDonalds. I don't know if that came off as a slight to iPhone users or McDonalds employees...either way seems to fit lol
do you work for a verizon store? do you realize the amount of money lost by franchises because apple likes to play their bull**** little supply and demand game? by not producing enough crap iphones, my store gets shafted (we got 3 iphone 4s. 3.) and we lose money. rather than continue to lose money on the iphone (it even takes over a week to get an iphone 4 in stock) i'm going to sell what's on hand and make money. it's a business. money NEEDS to be made. she played wtih my phone, she enjoyed my phone, and i sold her my phone. how is that giving her something she doesn't want? she only wanted an iphone because it's got an Apple logo on it and it's got an "i" in front of it. she came from blackberry and knew NO reasons as to why she should get an iphone; she only wanted one because it was white and people told her to. that's the kind of ignorance i deal with on a daily basis, and that's why i sell people android.
I don't work for any carrier/phone manufacturer. Do you know how many people actually LIKE the products that fruit themed company sells? I don't but that doesn't preclude someone else from making that choice. Stop being a fan-boy and try to accept that Android isn't for everyone same as iDevices aren't...and WP well that's just funny ;-)
did you read that? clearly you didn't. i'll paraphrase for you since you obviously didn't read my post:
she had no idea why she wanted an iphone. she's never used one in her life, she doesn't own any apple products whatsoever. she "wanted" one because people said OMFG GET AN IPHONE THEY'RE THE BEST! therefore, she decided, without even knowing what android was, that she'd get an iphone. that was her justification. i informed her of android, and of apple, and she chose android. fanboyism? more like being a competent salesman who does his job damn well.
hopefully you've read this one!
So she bought the phone from a Verizon store? She should be able to return it, correct? And it's totally not an Android issue, obviously. This is still what I would call a new phone and HTC is getting all of the bugs out. Just have her return it for a new one. She'll be happy with it once she gets one that is actually working. I, too, have pulled someone away from iOvercharge. She had a Mac, now has a badass PC. Had an iPoop and now is loving my old DX2. You just need to make sure you let her realize how new this phone is. A different one would probably solve all the problems.
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jayochs said:
fanboyism?
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LOL new favorite word
yeah, she's just confused in general about smartphones...she hardly knew how to work her 3+ year old blackberry hahaha
but yeah, i'm having her come in saturday so i can look at it...gotta talk to my boss about how we handle exchanges because i've never dealt with that before. i've never had someone return a phone that i sold them before lol.. thing is, if it's a faulty unit, now we're stuck with the faulty unit, so as the store, i don't really know what to do ya know? gotta work out the kinks! but yeah i'm interested to see what actually happens
Damn, that would suck. You could be a jerk and just dump it off on someone else. Ha! I thought you guys could send them back to HTC. That really sucks that you guys have to deal with it. Well, since it's such a new phone to her, and since she would have to start over with a new one anyway, you could always factory reset to see if that helps and gets rid of the issue.
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yeah, she's just confused in general about smartphones...she hardly knew how to work her 3+ year old blackberry hahaha
but yeah, i'm having her come in saturday so i can look at it...gotta talk to my boss about how we handle exchanges because i've never dealt with that before. i've never had someone return a phone that i sold them before lol.. thing is, if it's a faulty unit, now we're stuck with the faulty unit, so as the store, i don't really know what to do ya know? gotta work out the kinks! but yeah i'm interested to see what actually happens
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Wouldn't you have the ability to return it to Verizon like a 1:1 swap?
honestly guys, i've got no idea. since there's widespread rezound problems, i don't know how we deal with it..i've never returned a phone before. i'm gonna have to talk to my boss, who in turn, will have to talk to our HEAD store in north jersey about sending it back...we don't deal directly with verizon; our main store orders phones, then sends to us, and we pay the main store. it's RETARDED and that's why we don't get **** on release day. the main store f'ed us out of the rezound, razr and nexus launch. my boss drove 2 hours north today just to pick up the ddamn nexus because he said he's sick of their **** lol

I think I might be ready for a new phone.. What do you think?

Well I've had the rezound since it came out and I always loved it. But it's a little outdated now and development has slowed quite a bit. So I'm thinking about getting a new phone.
I'm 99% sure I'm not gonna get the iPhone, even though I love my iPad and MacBook I think android is better than the iPhone.
The galaxy nexus is one of my top choices but I think they might be coming out with a new one soon and I would rather wait.
The s3 is my top choice as of now.
I don't see any reason to get the d inc lte.
I'm looking for battery life that is better than my rezound. I would like a decent screen but it's not that important. Most importantly I want the phone to be smooth and fast. And I would love something that is getting jb.
So what do you think? Keep the rezound or get another phone? Any suggestions other than what I listed?
Thanks!
davidetkin511 said:
Well I've had the rezound since it came out and I always loved it. But it's a little outdated now and development has slowed quite a bit. So I'm thinking about getting a new phone.
I'm 99% sure I'm not gonna get the iPhone, even though I love my iPad and MacBook I think android is better than the iPhone.
The galaxy nexus is one of my top choices but I think they might be coming out with a new one soon and I would rather wait.
The s3 is my top choice as of now.
I don't see any reason to get the d inc lte.
I'm looking for battery life that is better than my rezound. I would like a decent screen but it's not that important. Most importantly I want the phone to be smooth and fast. And I would love something that is getting jb.
So what do you think? Keep the rezound or get another phone? Any suggestions other than what I listed?
Thanks!
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Honestly i would wait for the next nexus device and cross my fingers its made buy htc lol. I love sense and all but i really like the fact that a nexus is made exactly for that version of android at the time and is still in mind when they make a new os. Like the nexus s came with gingerbread, then ics, and will soon get jellybean i here. I mean 3 os updates and it runs even better than when it came out with gb, unlike many other phones (not the rezound) when they get a os update they start to usually slow down because its not made with that os in mine. But thats just me lol
Thanks! I think I'm gonna stick with my rezound for now. If the one x comes to Verizon I'll get that
Unfortunately they've already said Sammy's making the next Nexus.
Actually I guess that's not official... Just based on a leaked Samsung spec sheet.
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I've fought tooth and nail defending this phone for its outstanding hardware, but I'm starting to think it may be time to throw in the towel. The radios have amazing signal compared to Samsung. Problem? My strong as hell 4G signal stalls constantly. It never drops, just stalls all communications. I was so happy to see data stalls listed as fixed on this new ruu leak, but its completely untrue. No change. Not to mention the kernel drama. Still runs hot as hell. My respect for HTC has gone straight out the window this time. Not even aosp can redeem it for me now. So in short, I'm ready for a New phone as well and tell you go for it.
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I'm 99% sure I'm not gonna get the iPhone, even though I love my iPad and MacBook I think android is better than the iPhone.
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I bought a new iPhone for my sister a few months ago. I was setting it up for her and had it side by side next to my Rezound for about 4 or 5 days. I was just shocked at what a piece of crap it was. The screen was so small, it was like holding a kids toy or something. Honestly, it was painful to look at with its tiny, tiny screen.
3G just sucks. Granted, it was on Sprint's network (which I hear is not as good as Verizon) but 3G just sucked. Slow, spotty... Downloading apps seemed to take forever compared to my blazing fast 4G.
No widgets? WTF? I had to click on 3 or 4 things just to get to a Bluetooth control panel - my Rezound has a link right to the Bluetooth control panel on the homescreen. I love the big clock/weather widget on my homescreen, and having 4 different apps I can immediately go into during an unlock is terrific.
I have a few friends who have iPhones. One day, one of those guys who does sales (and is kind of an ass) started projecting that "I'm awesome because I own and iPhone and I love it and I love me and Im soo dam kewl" attitude - and I just tore him to shreds with the above three points.
He countered with "Well, I use iTunes and all my stuff is there and it magically appears in my iCloud, bla bla bla". I admitted he did have a point, but I ripped into him about how much iTunes sucks/I have my own cloud/etc. But I make sure to rip on him and his tiny screen and slow bandwidth opium of the masses toy whenever he brings it up.
I honestly feel sorry for people who are blinded by how cool they think they are because they bought an iPhone. Seriously, it reminds me of these people who are brainwashed into a religious cult and think they are going to be teleported to a paradise planet by an alien named Xennue or something.
I use Gmail/Google Calendar/Google Contacts/Google Docs... I have no desire to give that up for an iPhone.
However, I do like my iPad. Now that it can run Chrome, its actually nice. I can easily access all the above with little hassle.
Other than this ICS/Google Maps 6.10 debacle, I've had no issues with my Rezound whatsoever. With its extended battery, its just a great piece of hardware. I can't see myself changing that for any reason for a long, long time...
Now... Tablets... that's another story...
WebmastuhB said:
I bought a new iPhone for my sister a few months ago. I was setting it up for her and had it side by side next to my Rezound for about 4 or 5 days. I was just shocked at what a piece of crap it was. The screen was so small, it was like holding a kids toy or something. Honestly, it was painful to look at with its tiny, tiny screen.
3G just sucks. Granted, it was on Sprint's network (which I hear is not as good as Verizon) but 3G just sucked. Slow, spotty... Downloading apps seemed to take forever compared to my blazing fast 4G.
No widgets? WTF? I had to click on 3 or 4 things just to get to a Bluetooth control panel - my Rezound has a link right to the Bluetooth control panel on the homescreen. I love the big clock/weather widget on my homescreen, and having 4 different apps I can immediately go into during an unlock is terrific.
I have a few friends who have iPhones. One day, one of those guys who does sales (and is kind of an ass) started projecting that "I'm awesome because I own and iPhone and I love it and I love me and Im soo dam kewl" attitude - and I just tore him to shreds with the above three points.
He countered with "Well, I use iTunes and all my stuff is there and it magically appears in my iCloud, bla bla bla". I admitted he did have a point, but I ripped into him about how much iTunes sucks/I have my own cloud/etc. But I make sure to rip on him and his tiny screen and slow bandwidth opium of the masses toy whenever he brings it up.
I honestly feel sorry for people who are blinded by how cool they think they are because they bought an iPhone. Seriously, it reminds me of these people who are brainwashed into a religious cult and think they are going to be teleported to a paradise planet by an alien named Xennue or something.
I use Gmail/Google Calendar/Google Contacts/Google Docs... I have no desire to give that up for an iPhone.
However, I do like my iPad. Now that it can run Chrome, its actually nice. I can easily access all the above with little hassle.
Other than this ICS/Google Maps 6.10 debacle, I've had no issues with my Rezound whatsoever. With its extended battery, its just a great piece of hardware. I can't see myself changing that for any reason for a long, long time...
Now... Tablets... that's another story...
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Wow so much animosity towards the iPhone. Its really not a bad device. Both iOS and Android are solid platforms, and both have their pros and cons.
EDIT: Scratch all that i mustve overlooked the fact you have an iPad, so you do like the platform. As for the cultish fanboyism of ios yeah its there, but its going to exist everywhere. We have fanboy android users with the same mentality.
Well if I get a new phone it will be the s3. So what do you think, rezound or s3? I really don't know what to do here. I've been with htc since the apache. The galaxy s3 looks pretty good though. What do you think?
davidetkin511 said:
Well if I get a new phone it will be the s3. So what do you think, rezound or s3? I really don't know what to do here. I've been with htc since the apache. The galaxy s3 looks pretty good though. What do you think?
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nice looking phone with a better processor. Already leaks of JB on the international version. Promising. Personally, I'm riding the rezound for a while longer.
"GONNA RIP'EM A NEW ONE!" - Duke Nukem
Well said Webmastuh . Hehehe.. iphones may be slick, but they are highly overrated. Lots of these new Android phones whoop ish*ts a$$. The Rezound is an excellent piece of hardware, when paired with the proper software and firmware. The S3 is an excellent handset. The interface and graphics acceleration are much faster than the Rez, but as you know, Samsung has always had poor radios. Idk if they have improved it on the new S3 though...
IrvChynaman said:
Wow so much animosity towards the iPhone. Its really not a bad device. Both iOS and Android are solid platforms, and both have their pros and cons.
EDIT: Scratch all that i mustve overlooked the fact you have an iPad, so you do like the platform. As for the cultish fanboyism of ios yeah its there, but its going to exist everywhere. We have fanboy android users with the same mentality.
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Ha! Yeah, sorry if the post came off full of iPhone/iOS vitriol. I agree - both iOS and Android are both solid OS's/Platforms and both have their pros and cons. For the record I work with both and I'll program for either. I dropped the "religious fervor" about this stuff a while ago - they are all just tools.
I actually have a couple of iPads, and like a lot of things about them. I use them a lot to do actual productive work (mostly note taking and emails on the go). I have a couple of Android tablets, and I'm interested in getting a Surface.
But I'm sticking with my attack on iPhones. G3 sucks compared to my Rezound's G4, the iPhone screen is much smaller than my Rezound, and iPhone doesn't have widgets (and that shouldn't be overlooked. They are convenient as heck.)
I found out the other day that if I ever want to upgrade my Rezound with a subsidized phone from Verizon, I MUST drop my unlimited data plan for one of those metered plans they have. I told the rep I would never do this, and that I'd fire Verizon and switch to Sprint or T-Mobile first.
But the question I had was why upgrade my phone? The answer was "for new functionality that comes out". My answer was "I'll just do new functionality on a tablet, and keep my phone as-is." I'm a pretty imaginative guy, but I can't see why I'd have a specific need to upgrade my phone anytime soon. If some new killer-must-have app comes out tomorrow that doesn't run on a Rezound - cool, I'll just get it on a tablet. I'll keep the Rezound for basic stuff and use other advanced/new stuff on a tablet. The Rezound will be relegated to a bandwidth pipe with some basic email checking functions. Oh, and actual phone calls...
Maybe if 5G comes out that the Rezound can't handle... (and it would have to be a 5 - 10 times better than 4G to make it worth it), then maybe I'd consider replacing my Rezound... Unless a tablet comes out that has it built in... Or maybe some specific must-have thing would work better with a small form factor, but then again it might also be available in 5-7inch tablet for $200...
Switching back to my old phone....
Maybe I'm crazy (don't answer that), but I'm seriously thinking about switching back to my Dinc2 from the Rezound. After using the Rezound for several months, I'm just not that crazy about it. Sure, its bigger and has 4G, but everything about it - flashing ROMs, S-On/S-Off, this radio, that radio - is so COMPLICATED. The Dinc2 is just so much easier.
And I know that development on the Dinc2 has slowed way down, but it has on the Rezound too. I guess I'm just not sure what I should do, but I don't want to switch, then switch back again because I miss 4G. Any advice would be appreciated.
HarleyChick said:
Maybe I'm crazy (don't answer that), but I'm seriously thinking about switching back to my Dinc2 from the Rezound. After using the Rezound for several months, I'm just not that crazy about it. Sure, its bigger and has 4G, but everything about it - flashing ROMs, S-On/S-Off, this radio, that radio - is so COMPLICATED. The Dinc2 is just so much easier.
And I know that development on the Dinc2 has slowed way down, but it has on the Rezound too. I guess I'm just not sure what I should do, but I don't want to switch, then switch back again because I miss 4G. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Read one of the more simple guides and stick with your Rezzy. It only seems complicated to me when I'm speed reading.
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HarleyChick said:
Maybe I'm crazy (don't answer that), but I'm seriously thinking about switching back to my Dinc2 from the Rezound. After using the Rezound for several months, I'm just not that crazy about it. Sure, its bigger and has 4G, but everything about it - flashing ROMs, S-On/S-Off, this radio, that radio - is so COMPLICATED. The Dinc2 is just so much easier.
And I know that development on the Dinc2 has slowed way down, but it has on the Rezound too. I guess I'm just not sure what I should do, but I don't want to switch, then switch back again because I miss 4G. Any advice would be appreciated.
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I'd advise against reactivating a 3g phone on your line, especially if you have unlimited or a double data deal. Verizon is looking for any excuse to take those away, and switching between a 4g and 3g phone apparently qualifies. (Seriously, I've been on the phone with Verizon all morning trying to fix my uncle's plan).
if you have questions on flashing, just ask, there are helpful rezound people around.
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I'd advise against reactivating a 3g phone on your line, especially if you have unlimited or a double data deal. Verizon is looking for any excuse to take those away, and switching between a 4g and 3g phone apparently qualifies. (Seriously, I've been on the phone with Verizon all morning trying to fix my uncle's plan).
if you have questions on flashing, just ask, there are helpful rezound people around.
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Ouch.. Good to know
Just called and checked and they told me that if I activate a TB on the line my unlimited. Maybe it's if you flop back? I'm pretty sure the line was 3g.
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JustSomeDude said:
I'd advise against reactivating a 3g phone on your line, especially if you have unlimited or a double data deal. Verizon is looking for any excuse to take those away, and switching between a 4g and 3g phone apparently qualifies. (Seriously, I've been on the phone with Verizon all morning trying to fix my uncle's plan).
if you have questions on flashing, just ask, there are helpful rezound people around.
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I was wondering about that. Thanks for the info. That may just be enough to make me want to stay on the Rez. :good:
I don't know why people think dev on the Rezound is slowing because it's actually at more of a standstill. But, the OTA updates have dropped and now we are waiting for source to drop. Once that happens I have a feeling dev will continue on again and hopefully continue on long after the Rezound's shelf life much like the orig Incredible.

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