So I just bought a Vibrant last week.
Then Samsung/Tmobile releases news that a vibrant 4g is in the works.
Now I'm on the fence on whether to sell my Vibrant and pick up a Nexus S.
I love the vibrant, especially in rooted and custom rom form, but I'm not a coder and terrible at understanding how this works so making a custom rom for myself is kinda out right now.
But like most people on this forum, I'm not happy with the fact that Samsung has kinda abandoned the customers that originally bought the first iteration of the Galaxy S from tmobile.
I've noticed that support for the phone from developers on xda has taken a subtle downturn.
I really really appreciate the efforts of tw and other dedicated developers, but without source code for vibrant for 2.2/2.3 and other android versions, how long can developers keep this up for?
I didn't want the nexus s as I see it as another galaxy s phone (fragmentation anyone?), but with its vanilla android versions and constant support from Google, I see it having longevity over the Vibrant.
I figured if Samsung were to release official froyo for the vibrant soon then nothing to worry about, but with the impending release of the vibrant 4g.......well hopefully you understand what I'm getting at.
Am I completely off the mark on this one? Is there something I'm not understanding? What are your guys/girls opinion?
Dude, there is Android 2.3.1 from Nexus S ported to my old HTC HD2 and it's working fine and bug-less. Meanwhile you are waiting for 2.2, who is a *****?
woah woah, exploit.. calm down
Any ways, back to your dilemma, i think sticking with the vibrant is what u shood do personally, but if you have the money to afford a nexus s i say go for it.. rite now i dont have to worry about the vibrant 4g or nexus competing with my vibrant cuz there all basically the same, it kinda jus matters where your at. If you have 4g coverage go get a 4g phone, if not stick with the vibrant and install a FFC and you basically have a Vibrant 4G or Nexus S
If you just bought it last week, take it back. You can get the Nexus S now with that upgrade or wait for the Vibrant Plus.
If you keep it, you will be kicking yourself in a few months when you can't take it back anymore.
It still depends on where he lives, the Vibrant is a true competitor phone and with sum serious development it cood be one of the best. The only thing it lacks is the 4g that the Nexus S and Vibrant plus have which if he doesnt even have 4g coverage it wont matter if he has 4g
dglowen23 said:
It still depends on where he lives, the Vibrant is a true competitor phone and with sum serious development it cood be one of the best. The only thing it lacks is the 4g that the Nexus S and Vibrant plus have which if he doesnt even have 4g coverage it wont matter if he has 4g
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Thats where the dilemma lies, serious development.
Is it going to persist for at least the next 6 months to a year?
Even the nexus one has strong support from 3rd party developers, I would hate to see the vibrant disappear into yesterdays technology so quickly because of a lack of developer support.
btw, I've tried understanding some of this geekspeak, but my knowledge on this stuff is too rudimentary for me to make my own rom.
Technology I love you, but why are you doing this too me?
I won't be getting 4g coverage anytime soon, but its developer support that makes the horns of dilemma rear its sharp points towards me
yeah thats what im hoping for too is long term development, but think about the Behold 2.. it was only sposed to get 1.6 and out of no where got 2.2.1
And to make sure that development doesnt stop with the vibrant im going to be trying to learn all the stuff that it takes to build roms and do all that fun stuff..
Dont worry i wont let you down
You get 14 days to return it no questions asked! No need to sell it!
If you're having second thoughts just return it and wait for the new one!
Personally I would wait for the new phones with dual processor like the LG or something like that!
The Vibrant is so 2010! Lol!
I love my Vibrant, but I know something bigger and better is around the corner!
Just my 2ยข!
Rockin that Nero 4.1 w/Voodoo + s.b.g.2.3
Take it back while you can. The Vibrant is a GREAT phone and still is very capable but since you just started your contract you should return it because it appears that Samsung is kicking Vibrant to the curb in favor of the Plus. The Plus is starting out with Froyo while the Vibrant is still stuck on Eclair. I dont know what the Devs will do but it wouldnt surprise me if they abandon the Vibrant.
yeah but then even after that sumthin big and better comes around another sumthing big and better comes around... so no matter what you do ur gonna be S.O.L.
they wont abandon the vibrant.. i wont at least.
seriously the Behold 2 2.2.1 rom is absolutely mind blowing since samsung dropped it with only android 1.6
it jus shows that anything is possible with todays technology
quest4fire said:
Take it back while you can. The Vibrant is a GREAT phone and still is very capable but since you just started your contract you should return it because it appears that Samsung is kicking Vibrant to the curb in favor of the Plus. The Plus is starting out with Froyo while the Vibrant is still stuck on Eclair. I dont know what the Devs will do but it wouldnt surprise me if they abandon the Vibrant.
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Yeah, this is exactly what I'm trying to avoid doing. I'm Canadian, tmobile doesn't operate up here, but we have an AWS provider that offers unlimited plans. So its a buy and sell situation here. I won't have any problems selling this phone but it can be a hassle.
I love this phone.
Its slick, fast, and has everything I need except proper software.
Dglowen I hear you brother (or sister). I want to be optimistic about this phone and I think it'll continue having support, but I have a feeling it'll be fringe support rather then mainstream.
Man I need to learn to code.......
don't get the 4g if you're going to return your vibrant. get the nexus S. the new vibrant is not worth it.
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Take it back while you can. The Vibrant is a GREAT phone and still is very capable but since you just started your contract you should return it because it appears that Samsung is kicking Vibrant to the curb in favor of the Plus. The Plus is starting out with Froyo while the Vibrant is still stuck on Eclair. I dont know what the Devs will do but it wouldnt surprise me if they abandon the Vibrant.
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Haha, "starting out" with Froyo? Based on Samsung's history, good chance 2.2 will be the last official release for it.
If he gets the plus, won't the plus be the ugly stepsister in a few months when Samsung wants to push their next phone.
Take the Vibrant back and wait.
If I was in your sitch I would use the return window. If you have a handset that you can use for the time being wait for the dual core that should be coming.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
Yeah idk.. i think that keeping a vibrant wood be worth it but its always kool to have the latest fone out too.. even tho i been sayin keep the vibrant, it wood make more sense to get the newer fone
Whatever I decide, I just hope that the support for this phone continues and doesn't disappear quietly into the night. It definitely deserves official and mainstream support imo.
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So I just got a free vibrant from T-mo and not sure if I should sell it and get something else or keep it..
I was hoping some vibrant owners could give me some first hand testimony about the device that could help me make my decision, of course im gonna root it and i browsed at the development section and it looks like there some really intresting stuff going on in there, which is a great sign!!
So any input is greatly appreciated!!
Thanks for your time.
big nu said:
So I just got a free vibrant from T-mo and not sure if I should sell it and get something else or keep it..
I was hoping some vibrant owners could give me some first hand testimony about the device that could help me make my decision, of course im gonna root it and i browsed at the development section and it looks like there some really intresting stuff going on in there, which is a great sign!!
So any input is greatly appreciated!!
Thanks for your time.
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I can gladly take it off your hands, I will pay the shipping
big nu said:
So I just got a free vibrant from T-mo and not sure if I should sell it and get something else or keep it..
I was hoping some vibrant owners could give me some first hand testimony about the device that could help me make my decision, of course im gonna root it and i browsed at the development section and it looks like there some really intresting stuff going on in there, which is a great sign!!
So any input is greatly appreciated!!
Thanks for your time.
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I'll buy it from you,how much you want for it?
Great hardware, beautiful screen, and the Nexus S MAY lead to gingerbread soon. The ui is incredible and it's VERY hard to brick.
Our Dev support is amazing as well. A rooted/Rom'd Vibrant is pretty much the best it can get IMO.
big nu said:
So I just got a free vibrant from T-mo and not sure if I should sell it and get something else or keep it..
I was hoping some vibrant owners could give me some first hand testimony about the device that could help me make my decision, of course im gonna root it and i browsed at the development section and it looks like there some really intresting stuff going on in there, which is a great sign!!
So any input is greatly appreciated!!
Thanks for your time.
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It's a top-end device that should have 2.3 soon. It has the best screen and video chip of any android phone (except possibly the Nexus S), amazing for gaming and movies ... and basically everything. The contrast and brightness of this screen is unbelievable. Resolution is second only to the iPhone 4. Great dev support -- run Team Whiskey's "Nero" ROM
TL;DR
KEEP THE PHONE!
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It's a top-end device that should have 2.3 soon.
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Maybe some hacked up dev version of 2.3, but it's not getting official 2.3 anytime soon, most likely never.
The question no one asked is what getting the free vibrant did for your handset upgrade qualification? If you can't get the full discount to upgrade for another 20 months or so, it might not be that great of a deal. The new, dual core phones with 2.3 will probably be out in February.
If it was free, and you aren't loaded, I would def keep it. I love my phone, and all the new roms coming out make me fall in love all over again each flash. I'm kind of a gadget geek, and I am constantly wanting the latest and greatest. I'm thinking about biting the bullet and getting the new mytouch 4g.
Telanis said:
It's a top-end device that should have 2.3 soon. It has the best screen and video chip of any android phone (except possibly the Nexus S), amazing for gaming and movies ... and basically everything. The contrast and brightness of this screen is unbelievable. Resolution is second only to the iPhone 4. Great dev support -- run Team Whiskey's "Nero" ROM
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KEEP THE PHONE!
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Nexus S has the same processor and GPU as Galaxy S
I think the general consensus on these forums would be that you need to root it, and ROM it. The stock android release that ships on it is littered with problems that power users like us can't handle, and Samsung doesn't have a thing on current vibrant developers who consistently make the phone amazing.
That said, 10,000,000 of these things have been sold and most people are oblivious to the issues on this phone. They use it and it's incredible hardware without issue.
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I think the general consensus on these forums would be that you need to root it, and ROM it. The stock android release that ships on it is littered with problems that power users like us can't handle, and Samsung doesn't have a thing on current vibrant developers who consistently make the phone amazing.
That said, 10,000,000 of these things have been sold and most people are oblivious to the issues on this phone. They use it and it's incredible hardware without issue.
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Well if you lookup the title of these boards it says XDA-Developers, and it is for a reason
get your advil ready and be prepared to read a lot of forums
big nu said:
So I just got a free vibrant from T-mo and not sure if I should sell it and get something else or keep it..
I was hoping some vibrant owners could give me some first hand testimony about the device that could help me make my decision, of course im gonna root it and i browsed at the development section and it looks like there some really intresting stuff going on in there, which is a great sign!!
So any input is greatly appreciated!!
Thanks for your time.
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first.....tell how how you got a free vibrant
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first.....tell how how you got a free vibrant
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They are free on t-mobile.com even for flex pay customers right now, I just signed up for flexpay payed the first months bill and phone arrived next day.... sofakinggangsta!!!
Rooted it, SIM Unlocked It, Installed Obsidian v4.2 (Team Whiskey)*#2263# into the phone without a SIM card in it and Activated at&t 850 band, ...BEST PHONE I HAVE EVER HAD!!! PURE AWESOMENESS!!!! at&t 3G works flawlessly on a t-mobile phone !!!! I LOVE IT!!!!
promo
brian_v3ntura said:
first.....tell how how you got a free vibrant
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@brian_ventura Tuesday and weds they were runnig a promo for free vibrants for contracts and upgrades..
Does anyone know if I can eliminate the data plan or is it part of the 2yr contact??
Until the dual core phones come out, the Vibrant is the best phone money can buy IMO. It has the best screen in the business, a great loud speaker, super fast CPU and GPU, lots of memory and memory expansion, tough as nails to brick and the best developer support on the planet.
DaveNavy said:
They are free on t-mobile.com even for flex pay customers right now, I just signed up for flexpay payed the first months bill and phone arrived next day.... sofakinggangsta!!!
Rooted it, SIM Unlocked It, Installed Obsidian v4.2 (Team Whiskey)*#2263# into the phone without a SIM card in it and Activated at&t 850 band, ...BEST PHONE I HAVE EVER HAD!!! PURE AWESOMENESS!!!! at&t 3G works flawlessly on a t-mobile phone !!!! I LOVE IT!!!!
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@brian_ventura Tuesday and weds they were runnig a promo for free vibrants for contracts and upgrades..
Does anyone know if I can eliminate the data plan or is it part of the 2yr contact??
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oh -_- i thought the OP meant literally free vibrant without 2yr contract/upgrade.
Vibrant is a great phone technically speaking, but the manufacture marketing tactic is really a major upset. Months after months, they keep on focusing new product and forget about the 10M mark SGS, they still don't care about making upgrade and kept on giving false hopes. Their KIES is really bloated. I have not bought any Samsung product due to bad reputation in the past. This trick they did will likely be the last. If I have to, it will be a Google phone of some sort where you at least get that upgrade OTA early like Nexus S.
Yes. Ny first samsung phone was an eternity and now im on the captivate. The eternity was a freaking tank and was so awesome! my first touch screen too. now that I have a droid, sure I want 2.2-2.3, but we have devs for that. And my phone would be faster without samsung anyways...oc to 1.4 and ext4 lagfix. Sammy wont do any of that, plus have amazing themes too.
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I know XDA is great for us for personal use. Without XDA, my Vibrant would just be on ebay skidrow.
However, if you are in charge of deploying to 20+ phones for corporate plan, I don't think you can flash ROM and voiding warranty at the same time. CEO would be pissed if he finds out you would do that for the entire company. Users are complaining that its slow and making you look bad for months.
I don't get it...Samsung already sold 10M+, if they are smart, they need to get those users happy, to get more customer comeback in the future instead of held hostage attitude.
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For sure yes. Sure- Samsung has their issues with sucky UI and programming, but the devs over here at XDA definitely more than compensate for that. And the hardware aspects of this phone constantly impress me.
Oxirane said:
For sure yes. Sure- Samsung has their issues with sucky UI and programming, but the devs over here at XDA definitely more than compensate for that. And the hardware aspects of this phone constantly impress me.
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I agree that they have great hardware for the moment, but it won't be long until other manufactures catch up. The hostage tactic is really unacceptable. Dual Core and 4G is coming up from other vendors. Samsung hostage tactic won't work anymore. People will have more choices now that Android is becoming mainstream by the next 2 years. There are HTC, Sony-Erricson, BB, Dell...
This poll seems to suggest that there are at least 60% attrition rate. I hope Samsung or T-Mobile is watching this and make up for it somehow later if they want the initial 6 Millions Samsung Galaxy S to return. Yes, we do feel really left out, lied, and scammed. If they surprise us with something out of ordinary then maybe people will forget, otherwise 2 year of upset is a definite no return. For now, I'll just accept the scam for 2 years, I'll wait for other vendor multi core later other than Samsung.
Almost 50 voters and the percentages still looking roughly the same.
This is just endemic of Android fragmentation. Google does not mandate a strict update schedule, and they really give the carriers and OEMs a little too much freedom.
Personally I believe that Google should push the OEMs and carriers to making sure the software is up to date.
I'm not going to unilaterally say I would never buy a Samsung device again, because my Vibrant has a great many advantages. I've finally gotten a Froyo ROM working satisfactorily, so I'm actually content with my phone for the first time in a long time! I love the 4" screen size--it's the sweet spot for me. The MT4G felt just a tiny bit small, but 4.3" devices such as the EVO are just too large for me.
One thing that does bother me is that the haptic feedback on the Vibrant feels really weak compared to the MT4G and other similar phones...
most of you who say no, will get another one by samsung, it all depends.
i would've gotten a HTC (forgot) from TMOBILE, but at tmobile, the only good phone they had while i was buying was a Galaxy s which i heard was the fastest phone in the world... and i got this, im dissapointed with samsung, but i can live without a GPS and updates(updates, but not for like 5 years)
i will buy another samsung phone if its one of the best out, my stock had no lag, and putting voodoo makes it feel a bit faster, but doesn't change much for me.
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This is just endemic of Android fragmentation. Google does not mandate a strict update schedule, and they really give the carriers and OEMs a little too much freedom.
Personally I believe that Google should push the OEMs and carriers to making sure the software is up to date.
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I agree with you. I think Google originally made it open and easy to recruit more OEMs to distribute their product out to the world. In doing so would surpass mobile 7 and catchup to iOS faster. Now that the world is aware of it, I think they should push OEMs to keep up to date, or else people will steer away from it and causes it to lose momentum. Google is like Microsoft. Before jumping in to Android, I thought it has the best of everything. I had good thoughts about Samsung, until I saw the truth. This whole handling of update makes me think twice about buying any other Samsung product. The hardware is great but this update issue just ruins its good image and will make others think twice about buying any other Samsung product.
I still have hope for Google tighten up security later as more hackers will now focuses in on it. If they don't push OEMs to keep up to date, it makes me wonder what happens when there is some real bad exploit that needs patching? We can't even get an update in 1/2 a year, so how can we even rely on have a patch/hotfix? I can't rely on product that has problem with udpates. I thought Microsoft was worse, but hey at least they have updates every Tuesday. Android will be linked to Google "first OS" so they have to do something to gain the positive image. Android is linux, so it should not be that hard to compile. There are plenty of folks in linux community to help out with debugging.
xriderx66 said:
most of you who say no, will get another one by samsung, it all depends.
i would've gotten a HTC (forgot) from TMOBILE, but at tmobile, the only good phone they had while i was buying was a Galaxy s which i heard was the fastest phone in the world... and i got this, im dissapointed with samsung, but i can live without a GPS and updates(updates, but not for like 5 years)
i will buy another samsung phone if its one of the best out, my stock had no lag, and putting voodoo makes it feel a bit faster, but doesn't change much for me.
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Not everyone. I know for sure, I and maybe 3 millions others will avoid Samsung like a plague. I rather go with someone who has robust update handling. I have been trying a new phone every 2 years. Last year was HTC. This is the first time I tried Samsung and will be the last. SLCD is out competing with superamoled. I'm pretty sure new technology will be out within next 2 years rival superamol. I'm pretty sure other manufactures can gain up to it.
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XDA is really great for us, especially my personal phone. I thank them for being our savior to heartburn Samsung / OEMs caused us. The problem is we can not do the same for business phones. Doing so voids warranty and no boss likes you doing that for the company. If you are the IT administrator who recommend SGS for the entire company as a great phone with over 20+ accounts (corporate discount) and now most complained it being crawling slow. You read the Tmobile facebook, news, and told them update will be out. Months after months, nada. CEO is on your arse for recommending bad phone. Now it makes you look bad because the phones you recommended does not have update after 1/2 a year and no ETA when next one available. Tell me what would you do? If I have to take a poll of the folks at work, they would probably say 90% never to Samsung. I hated boring windows Mobile, but this is worse.
I was going to buy Samsung camera in December, glad, I didn't yet.
kobesabi said:
Not everyone. I know for sure, I and maybe 3 millions others will avoid Samsung like a plague. I rather go with someone who has robust update handling. I have been trying a new phone every 2 years. Last year was HTC. This is the first time I tried Samsung and will be the last. SLCD is out competing with superamoled. I'm pretty sure new technology will be out within next 2 years rival superamol. I'm pretty sure other manufactures can gain up to it.
Apple
AudioVox
HTC
i-mate
Kyocera
LG
Motorola
Nokia
Palm
Blackberry
Sanyo
Sharp
Sony Ericsson
Pantech
PCD
XDA is really great for us, especially my personal phone. I thank them for being our savior to heartburn Samsung / OEMs caused us. The problem is we can not do the same for business phones. Doing so voids warranty and no boss likes you doing that for the company. If you are the IT administrator who recommend SGS for the entire company as a great phone with over 20+ accounts (corporate discount) and now most complained it being crawling slow. You read the Tmobile facebook, news, and told them update will be out. Months after months, nada. CEO is on your arse for recommending bad phone. Now it makes you look bad because the phones you recommended does not have update after 1/2 a year and no ETA when next one available. Tell me what would you do? If I have to take a poll of the folks at work, they would probably say 90% never to Samsung. I hated boring windows Mobile, but this is worse.
I was going to buy Samsung camera in December, glad, I didn't yet.
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Did that actually happento u? I'm sorry.
I disagree with this phone being laggy, only some units are laggy, and I totally understand what ur saying, I come from a average consumer, while you, are a businessman, which puts alot of things in a different prescriptive.
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Did that actually happento u? I'm sorry.
I disagree with this phone being laggy, only some units are laggy, and I totally understand what ur saying, I come from a average consumer, while you, are a businessman, which puts alot of things in a different prescriptive.
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Yes. Thanks but no need to sorry. It's Samsungs mess.
I've checked about 8 phones, they were slow on bootup about (4-5 min) and slow to response after pressing home, lots of FCs, and autoreboot on few of them. I told them to don't install anything else but leave it as originals...I factory reset most of them but some users don't really listen like executive folks. What's the point of smartphone if I don't let them install some apps. I don't want them to get angry. After many months of waiting, I decided to look for alternative fixes and that lead me to XDA. I tested on my personal SGS and it works beautifully with very low lag. I even do a little further stress test installing over 250 apps to see how it respond in Froyo, it still works great. Because of that, I know Froyo will fix my problem and users will stop complain about slow phones and other issues. The Froyo are here, I know it can solve most issues, but I can't apply it. It's just frustrating waiting for OTA to happen. I can't rely on Samsung. I regret recommending a Samsung product. I should have trust my instinct and gone with more mature product like *gag* iPhone or tell them to wait a little longer. Samsung mademe look bad with so many delay to release updates. I have to keep finding excuses to the users and smile. Having gone through this one, if they ever ask me for another recommendation, I would certainly not go this route again but rather something that is made for enterprise.
Almost 70 voters, and the sentiment of the people is clear and distribution still holding.
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most of you who say no, will get another one by samsung, it all depends.
i would've gotten a HTC (forgot) from TMOBILE, but at tmobile, the only good phone they had while i was buying was a Galaxy s which i heard was the fastest phone in the world... and i got this, im dissapointed with samsung, but i can live without a GPS and updates(updates, but not for like 5 years)
i will buy another samsung phone if its one of the best out, my stock had no lag, and putting voodoo makes it feel a bit faster, but doesn't change much for me.
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Stock definately has lag. I plan on purchasing the Vibrant 4G when it comes out. Samsung makes good products. The phone is sleek and sexy. It is my favorite looking smart phone out there.
Nope. By the timei need to upgrade, samsung will still be releasing galaxy s phones. I'm tired of the rehashes and releases with only a mrginal improvement, or worse, a hardware flaw from the previousmodel that they fixed with the part 2.
Such as the vibrant not having hspa+ or froyo...but the vibrant 4g has both.
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Nope. By the timei need to upgrade, samsung will still be releasing galaxy s phones. I'm tired of the rehashes and releases with only a mrginal improvement, or worse, a hardware flaw from the previousmodel that they fixed with the part 2.
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According to the leak info, a fix is consider a "feature upgrade" and US carriers need to pay for it.
Such as the vibrant not having hspa+ or froyo...but the vibrant 4g has both.
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That's a "feature upgrade" too I guess. They are milking us every step of their phases.
I just saw the news said Samsung Nexus S will have autofocus...that's a new feature upgrade. Yeap everything is a feature upgrade and it comes in the form of a new phone...I guess that is their business model.
yes, if Team Whiskey supports it
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yes, if Team Whiskey supports it
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I hope you did not think they generate new software from scratch so you can load up and make it work better. Or reverse engineering to recompile into a ROM from scratch. If so, you are in for a shock. You do know that Samsung is part of OpenHandsetAlliance right? And supposed to be "open" even with apache license. Otherwise they just a corporate leach and have just fooled people to buying their product for thinking they'd be open by being member of the alliance.
This poll suggest at least 60% are unhappy with Samsung, 2 years from now, the tune might be different about Samsung product. 60% of 10M is alot. Even 10% of that is still alot. I see at least 2 Millions not coming back. Android will be everywhere. Samsung will not be the only phone maker having Android in there 2.2 or 2.3..whatever. We won't be tied down to just haveing Samsung to choose anymore by next 2 years. Without much interest in it, there won't be that many developers to make ROM for you.
The lesson I get from this is I might not buy another OEM again and steer away from Samsung. I rather buy Google phone like Nexus 1 or S so I can get update on time. I heard others said Samsung product break down fast and support was terrible since the 80s. I should have listen to them.
So we all know that sammy is planning to release the vibrant 4g soon, but the problem is, how will that degrade the vibrant? Most average customers will fall for the 4g and ffc even though it is the same phone, but how will that affect the price/overall worth of the phone? Will the vibrant become mid-range even though it is the same phone due to dumb customers?
The g2 and mytouch 4g really are not much better yet Tmobile keeps the value of those phones high.
Yes. It will degrade the value of the Vibrant some. But that was going to happen anyway. Same thing will happen when the Optimus 2X comes out in a few months. That's life as far as technology goes.
There is some good news though - there is evidence that the phone will be called the Samsung Galaxy S 4G. That might lessen the correlation to the Vibrant allowing it to keep a bit more value than it would otherwise.
It just pisses me off that Tmobile can downplay the vibrant when its other flagship phones, g2 and mytouch 4g, aren't huge leaps forward either. And how dumb customers on craigslist assume a newer phone is better.
I get where you are coming from OP, but it honestly is the last thing on my mind. I don't see myself selling the phone any time soon, and the 4G isn't going to make my phone any less awesome. This thing rooted, ROM'd and OC'd is better and faster than any other phone I've compared it to, ranging from the MTSlide to the DROIDX and iPhone.
I don't even really see how Dual Core is going to convince me to leave this phone before it's shelf life is up. The only thing this phone doesn't have that I'd like is Netflix and that can't be too far off. Even then, like an FFC, it will be more novelty than anything. I honestly won't be watching Weeds in my pillow fort while my wife makes me mac n cheese with hot dogs. Damnit that does sound like a perfect evening though.
It will be a good thing the 4G. First ppl will on-mass sell off their Vibrant only to find out later we will be able to port the 4g software, then everyone who kept theirs will be laughing at the sheep who stupidly reacted to the new shinely "marble"
The kernel of both is compatible, isn't it? I remember on the Dev section someone saying that. So if the Vibrant 4G gets Gingerbread, it can easily be ported to the Vibrant, I guess. That would be really nice.
Yes, the big IF it gets gingerbread.
Sammy: Feb. 23, The Vibrant 4g WILL get gingerbread soon.
Sammy: April, We are stilling trying to give galaxy s users the best update experience possible. The update will be available soon.
Sammy: June, We apologize for any inconveniences we may have caused. The Vibrant 4g gingerbread update is still being worked on.
Sammy: August: Still be worked on.
XDA: October, Let's sign another petition for gingy!
Sammy: January, We are happy to present gingerbread!
XDA: Jan., Where is my honeycomb!?
XPLANE9 said:
Yes, the big IF it gets gingerbread.
Sammy: Feb. 23, The Vibrant 4g WILL get gingerbread soon.
Sammy: April, We are stilling trying to give galaxy s users the best update experience possible. The update will be available soon.
Sammy: June, We apologize for any inconveniences we may have caused. The Vibrant 4g gingerbread update is still being worked on.
Sammy: August: Still be worked on.
XDA: October, Let's sign another petition for gingy!
Sammy: January, We are happy to present gingerbread!
XDA: Jan., Where is my honeycomb!?
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Damnit, can't figure out why I have deja vu!!!
The Vibrant as we know it will likely disappear imo.
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. I honestly won't be watching Weeds in my pillow fort while my wife makes me mac n cheese with hot dogs. Damnit that does sound like a perfect evening though.
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I'm gonna have to agree with that one
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So, is our Vibrant hspa+21mb capable? Is there any software that unlocks it?
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I found some chick on Craigslist who got an HD7 a week ago and wants to trade it straight across for a Vibrant, presumably because she does not like WP7.
What would you guys do? I was thinking of doing it for 2 reasons:
1) I will get to try out WP7 in a real world scenario and get my own opinion on it.
2) I know the HD7 is worth WAY more than Vibrant right now, so if I did not like it I know I could resell it on CL and get a different Vibrant or anything else really, perhaps even walk out of the deal ahead a few bucks. I don't see this as taking advantage of someone, they have the means to see the values of certain phones and still want to do this straight up.
What say y'all?
PS- I think I am spoiled by my rooted and ROM'd Vibrant, I believe that if it were stock I would probably not even need to pose the question to you guys, as I would jump on HD7 in a heartbeat. I am just glad the Vibrant was not my first Android phone, or it would have soured me to Android unecessarily.
I was thinking about getting one as second handset. It's a nice looking phone, I hear it's a very smooth experience. I personally think it would be limiting coming from an android OS. But I would consider it.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
Kind of what I had in mind exactly. If the hardware wasn't so sexy I might not think twice about it. I wish I could see into the future to see how WP7 will grow.
I do know that WP7 does not offer Rhapsody and I am a total Rhapsody junkie, so I would be pretty bummed. I know they have Zune, but from what I hear it's not as expansive a library and it would cost me money, whereas with Rhap I have a way to get it for free.
HD7 for vibrant
I traded my Hd7 for a vibrant. HD7 is a great phone, and the wp7 is a great new operating system. But I got bored within 2 weeks. The apps right now are mostly pure junk. Simple junky ones are charging 1.99+ on the marketplace. That will hopefully change in the future. But as of right now i was bored out of my mind with it so I went back to my nexus one, then i traded the hd7 for the vibrant.
Good to know, thanks for the input.
I've been posting ads to trade my vibrant for an HD7 no bites yet
Yuvan said:
I've been posting ads to trade my vibrant for an HD7 no bites yet
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lol probably because most people know an HD7 is worth way more than a Vibrant. It's gonna be REALLY hard for you once the Galaxy S 4G drops.
Dont look at the phone, look at the services. Android Market is way better than Win 7. Also Open source vs Closed source.
I had an hd7 for about 8days or so, and I traded for a Vibrant, as someone said up there, It got boring, I like to oc, and play with my settings, and make the phone me, while Multitasking in the background while hd7 can't really do much YET (who knows)
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I had an hd7 for about 8days or so, and I traded for a Vibrant, as someone said up there, It got boring, I like to oc, and play with my settings, and make the phone me, while Multitasking in the background while hd7 can't really do much YET (who knows)
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Yeah that's my biggest concern too. I have no doubt that WP7 is a sexy UI, but I LOVE the ability to multitask and all the customization options that Android offers. I am a little concerned about getting bored of stock WP7 too.
Thanks for the input.
Trade sell it for 350 and get vibrant for 250 100 profit
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That's definitely something I had in mind. It seems win-win for me. If I like it, hey cool. If I don't just come back to Android and maybe profit. Are there any other offerings on t-mo that are comparable to the Vibrant. I don't much like the MT4G...
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That's definitely something I had in mind. It seems win-win for me. If I like it, hey cool. If I don't just come back to Android and maybe profit. Are there any other offerings on t-mo that are comparable to the Vibrant. I don't much like the MT4G...
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If i wwere you I would do it quick. Price of the phones go down whenever new phone comes out .
I went through like 5 phones in last 3-4months.
Iphone 3gs-Vibrant -g2-nexus one-mytouch 4g- back to vibrant.
Vibrant is the best.
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Well I did it. Last night I traded my Vibrant for the HD7. I immediately was not a fan of how simplistic the OS is. I mean the phone itself is beautiful, and the software is smooth as butter, but it will take some getting used to. I figure I'll give it until the SGS 4G drops. That will devalue the current Vibrant I think, and at that point I can decide if I want to sell this thing and go back or I'll know if WP7 will grow on me.
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Two reasons I'm hesitant to use another OS. ability to dl torrents directly to phone, and fast, ability to dl free music at will. Also the apps are ones that aren't available that I use daily. But I'd love to hear more of your continued experience with this phone. I'm still considering one, though I think a dual core 4.3 handset is around the corner from what I hear.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
My upgrade is due next week, and I've been researching this phone like crazy in the past 2 months, constantly checking back here and reading posts. i know all the issues, screen bleeding, camera flash issue, multitouch points etc, and they do not really bother me. i was playing with the galaxy nexus and ICS runs INSANELY smooth and snappy, i was wondering when CM9 is available, will it be that responsive and smooth? Im on Tmobile USA right now and i could get the amaze for 230.00 with a contract, or i can fork out 600.00 for a galaxy nexus. i Do beleive the amaze is an all around better phone, camera, build quality, and so on. But im worried how well ICS run on it. i like options, for example, galaxy nexus will have ICS, thats it, the amaze i could flash between sense roms and ICS (when its available)
BTW, im coming from a tmobile G2. Im a huge fan of xboarder's work, Super excited to see him on the amaze forums.
any suggestions and comments would be greatly appreciated, i need your thoughts and opinions, i apologize for the long rant also.
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My upgrade is due next week, and I've been researching this phone like crazy in the past 2 months, constantly checking back here and reading posts. i know all the issues, screen bleeding, camera flash issue, multitouch points etc, and they do not really bother me. i was playing with the galaxy nexus and ICS runs INSANELY smooth and snappy, i was wondering when CM9 is available, will it be that responsive and smooth? Im on Tmobile USA right now and i could get the amaze for 230.00 with a contract, or i can fork out 600.00 for a galaxy nexus. i Do beleive the amaze is an all around better phone, camera, build quality, and so on. But im worried how well ICS run on it. i like options, for example, galaxy nexus will have ICS, thats it, the amaze i could flash between sense roms and ICS (when its available)
BTW, im coming from a tmobile G2. Im a huge fan of xboarder's work, Super excited to see him on the amaze forums.
any suggestions and comments would be greatly appreciated, i need your thoughts and opinions, i apologize for the long rant also.
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dont worry about ics man i will make it run great if its aosp or sense with sense removed
sounds promising to me man, will be getting the amaze 4G on friday then, much props to you for your hard work. the G2 Forums miss you =P lol
i just dont wanna regret signing a contract for 2 years, then something else comes out in a few months
Well you don't have to worry too much about the Amaze being outdated in a couple years... I'd say in terms of hardware, the device is high-end enough to hold its own against the oncoming handsets
Traded my Samsung GN for the Amaze and am much happier with it.
HTC Amaze is the next generation phone. How many phones on the market right now come with NFC (Near Field Communication)? Hahahaha
Amaze all the way ....
Fuego I'm in the same boat ur in
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fuego77 said:
sounds promising to me man, will be getting the amaze 4G on friday then, much props to you for your hard work. the G2 Forums miss you =P lol
i just dont wanna regret signing a contract for 2 years, then something else comes out in a few months
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If you have problems with it or want the latest greatest, you always have warrenty to exchange up
fuego77 said:
i just dont wanna regret signing a contract for 2 years, then something else comes out in a few months
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If you think like this, you will never upgrade. At the rate that technology advances, a technically superior device is always going to be "just around the corner." Just continue to do your research, make a choice, and enjoy it.
im not worried about it getting outdated, I'm worried it'll get outdated too quickly. 2-3 months is quick for me but anything frm 4-6 months is reasonable. And thanks to u guys I will be gettingthe amaze next week. Im putting my money on the devs on this one, I know you guys won't disappoint
And the "lack of" development doesn't bother me either. Quality over quantity, rather have 6 superior roms over 20 mediocre ones
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im not worried about it getting outdated, I'm worried it'll get outdated too quickly. 2-3 months is quick for me but anything frm 4-6 months is reasonable. And thanks to u guys I will be gettingthe amaze next week. Im putting my money on the devs on this one, I know you guys won't disappoint
And the "lack of" development doesn't bother me either. Quality over quantity, rather have 6 superior roms over 20 mediocre ones
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i wont disapoint