So we all know that sammy is planning to release the vibrant 4g soon, but the problem is, how will that degrade the vibrant? Most average customers will fall for the 4g and ffc even though it is the same phone, but how will that affect the price/overall worth of the phone? Will the vibrant become mid-range even though it is the same phone due to dumb customers?
The g2 and mytouch 4g really are not much better yet Tmobile keeps the value of those phones high.
Yes. It will degrade the value of the Vibrant some. But that was going to happen anyway. Same thing will happen when the Optimus 2X comes out in a few months. That's life as far as technology goes.
There is some good news though - there is evidence that the phone will be called the Samsung Galaxy S 4G. That might lessen the correlation to the Vibrant allowing it to keep a bit more value than it would otherwise.
It just pisses me off that Tmobile can downplay the vibrant when its other flagship phones, g2 and mytouch 4g, aren't huge leaps forward either. And how dumb customers on craigslist assume a newer phone is better.
I get where you are coming from OP, but it honestly is the last thing on my mind. I don't see myself selling the phone any time soon, and the 4G isn't going to make my phone any less awesome. This thing rooted, ROM'd and OC'd is better and faster than any other phone I've compared it to, ranging from the MTSlide to the DROIDX and iPhone.
I don't even really see how Dual Core is going to convince me to leave this phone before it's shelf life is up. The only thing this phone doesn't have that I'd like is Netflix and that can't be too far off. Even then, like an FFC, it will be more novelty than anything. I honestly won't be watching Weeds in my pillow fort while my wife makes me mac n cheese with hot dogs. Damnit that does sound like a perfect evening though.
It will be a good thing the 4G. First ppl will on-mass sell off their Vibrant only to find out later we will be able to port the 4g software, then everyone who kept theirs will be laughing at the sheep who stupidly reacted to the new shinely "marble"
The kernel of both is compatible, isn't it? I remember on the Dev section someone saying that. So if the Vibrant 4G gets Gingerbread, it can easily be ported to the Vibrant, I guess. That would be really nice.
Yes, the big IF it gets gingerbread.
Sammy: Feb. 23, The Vibrant 4g WILL get gingerbread soon.
Sammy: April, We are stilling trying to give galaxy s users the best update experience possible. The update will be available soon.
Sammy: June, We apologize for any inconveniences we may have caused. The Vibrant 4g gingerbread update is still being worked on.
Sammy: August: Still be worked on.
XDA: October, Let's sign another petition for gingy!
Sammy: January, We are happy to present gingerbread!
XDA: Jan., Where is my honeycomb!?
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Yes, the big IF it gets gingerbread.
Sammy: Feb. 23, The Vibrant 4g WILL get gingerbread soon.
Sammy: April, We are stilling trying to give galaxy s users the best update experience possible. The update will be available soon.
Sammy: June, We apologize for any inconveniences we may have caused. The Vibrant 4g gingerbread update is still being worked on.
Sammy: August: Still be worked on.
XDA: October, Let's sign another petition for gingy!
Sammy: January, We are happy to present gingerbread!
XDA: Jan., Where is my honeycomb!?
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Damnit, can't figure out why I have deja vu!!!
The Vibrant as we know it will likely disappear imo.
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. I honestly won't be watching Weeds in my pillow fort while my wife makes me mac n cheese with hot dogs. Damnit that does sound like a perfect evening though.
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I'm gonna have to agree with that one
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So, is our Vibrant hspa+21mb capable? Is there any software that unlocks it?
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So I just bought a Vibrant last week.
Then Samsung/Tmobile releases news that a vibrant 4g is in the works.
Now I'm on the fence on whether to sell my Vibrant and pick up a Nexus S.
I love the vibrant, especially in rooted and custom rom form, but I'm not a coder and terrible at understanding how this works so making a custom rom for myself is kinda out right now.
But like most people on this forum, I'm not happy with the fact that Samsung has kinda abandoned the customers that originally bought the first iteration of the Galaxy S from tmobile.
I've noticed that support for the phone from developers on xda has taken a subtle downturn.
I really really appreciate the efforts of tw and other dedicated developers, but without source code for vibrant for 2.2/2.3 and other android versions, how long can developers keep this up for?
I didn't want the nexus s as I see it as another galaxy s phone (fragmentation anyone?), but with its vanilla android versions and constant support from Google, I see it having longevity over the Vibrant.
I figured if Samsung were to release official froyo for the vibrant soon then nothing to worry about, but with the impending release of the vibrant 4g.......well hopefully you understand what I'm getting at.
Am I completely off the mark on this one? Is there something I'm not understanding? What are your guys/girls opinion?
Dude, there is Android 2.3.1 from Nexus S ported to my old HTC HD2 and it's working fine and bug-less. Meanwhile you are waiting for 2.2, who is a *****?
woah woah, exploit.. calm down
Any ways, back to your dilemma, i think sticking with the vibrant is what u shood do personally, but if you have the money to afford a nexus s i say go for it.. rite now i dont have to worry about the vibrant 4g or nexus competing with my vibrant cuz there all basically the same, it kinda jus matters where your at. If you have 4g coverage go get a 4g phone, if not stick with the vibrant and install a FFC and you basically have a Vibrant 4G or Nexus S
If you just bought it last week, take it back. You can get the Nexus S now with that upgrade or wait for the Vibrant Plus.
If you keep it, you will be kicking yourself in a few months when you can't take it back anymore.
It still depends on where he lives, the Vibrant is a true competitor phone and with sum serious development it cood be one of the best. The only thing it lacks is the 4g that the Nexus S and Vibrant plus have which if he doesnt even have 4g coverage it wont matter if he has 4g
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It still depends on where he lives, the Vibrant is a true competitor phone and with sum serious development it cood be one of the best. The only thing it lacks is the 4g that the Nexus S and Vibrant plus have which if he doesnt even have 4g coverage it wont matter if he has 4g
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Thats where the dilemma lies, serious development.
Is it going to persist for at least the next 6 months to a year?
Even the nexus one has strong support from 3rd party developers, I would hate to see the vibrant disappear into yesterdays technology so quickly because of a lack of developer support.
btw, I've tried understanding some of this geekspeak, but my knowledge on this stuff is too rudimentary for me to make my own rom.
Technology I love you, but why are you doing this too me?
I won't be getting 4g coverage anytime soon, but its developer support that makes the horns of dilemma rear its sharp points towards me
yeah thats what im hoping for too is long term development, but think about the Behold 2.. it was only sposed to get 1.6 and out of no where got 2.2.1
And to make sure that development doesnt stop with the vibrant im going to be trying to learn all the stuff that it takes to build roms and do all that fun stuff..
Dont worry i wont let you down
You get 14 days to return it no questions asked! No need to sell it!
If you're having second thoughts just return it and wait for the new one!
Personally I would wait for the new phones with dual processor like the LG or something like that!
The Vibrant is so 2010! Lol!
I love my Vibrant, but I know something bigger and better is around the corner!
Just my 2ยข!
Rockin that Nero 4.1 w/Voodoo + s.b.g.2.3
Take it back while you can. The Vibrant is a GREAT phone and still is very capable but since you just started your contract you should return it because it appears that Samsung is kicking Vibrant to the curb in favor of the Plus. The Plus is starting out with Froyo while the Vibrant is still stuck on Eclair. I dont know what the Devs will do but it wouldnt surprise me if they abandon the Vibrant.
yeah but then even after that sumthin big and better comes around another sumthing big and better comes around... so no matter what you do ur gonna be S.O.L.
they wont abandon the vibrant.. i wont at least.
seriously the Behold 2 2.2.1 rom is absolutely mind blowing since samsung dropped it with only android 1.6
it jus shows that anything is possible with todays technology
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Take it back while you can. The Vibrant is a GREAT phone and still is very capable but since you just started your contract you should return it because it appears that Samsung is kicking Vibrant to the curb in favor of the Plus. The Plus is starting out with Froyo while the Vibrant is still stuck on Eclair. I dont know what the Devs will do but it wouldnt surprise me if they abandon the Vibrant.
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Yeah, this is exactly what I'm trying to avoid doing. I'm Canadian, tmobile doesn't operate up here, but we have an AWS provider that offers unlimited plans. So its a buy and sell situation here. I won't have any problems selling this phone but it can be a hassle.
I love this phone.
Its slick, fast, and has everything I need except proper software.
Dglowen I hear you brother (or sister). I want to be optimistic about this phone and I think it'll continue having support, but I have a feeling it'll be fringe support rather then mainstream.
Man I need to learn to code.......
don't get the 4g if you're going to return your vibrant. get the nexus S. the new vibrant is not worth it.
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Take it back while you can. The Vibrant is a GREAT phone and still is very capable but since you just started your contract you should return it because it appears that Samsung is kicking Vibrant to the curb in favor of the Plus. The Plus is starting out with Froyo while the Vibrant is still stuck on Eclair. I dont know what the Devs will do but it wouldnt surprise me if they abandon the Vibrant.
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Haha, "starting out" with Froyo? Based on Samsung's history, good chance 2.2 will be the last official release for it.
If he gets the plus, won't the plus be the ugly stepsister in a few months when Samsung wants to push their next phone.
Take the Vibrant back and wait.
If I was in your sitch I would use the return window. If you have a handset that you can use for the time being wait for the dual core that should be coming.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
Yeah idk.. i think that keeping a vibrant wood be worth it but its always kool to have the latest fone out too.. even tho i been sayin keep the vibrant, it wood make more sense to get the newer fone
Whatever I decide, I just hope that the support for this phone continues and doesn't disappear quietly into the night. It definitely deserves official and mainstream support imo.
Hey guys,
I'm deciding between the 3VO and the sg2. I've looked up comparisons of the two and it seems that the hardware is better on sg2 and software is better on 3vo. I'm thinking that the 3vo would probably get better devolopment tho.
So convince me why I should get the 3vo, I really don't know! I saw that the sg2 is like $700-$800 no contract in the UK, if true. Ill get the 3vo. Do you guys think it really costs that much?
i made a mistake and bought a samsung phone, that will never happen again. its nice to have working gps on my evo 3d.
Development wise the EVO 3D will be better I'm sure. There's a lot of great developers on this phone right now and will be more coming
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Hey guys,
I'm thinking that the 3vo would probably get better devolopment tho.
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That depends on a number of factors, time being the most important. If our mighty developers crack the phone and/or HTC unlocks it in the 30 day return window (starting on the 24th of June) then there is nothing to worry about and I absolutely assure you that the best and most development will be going on here on the E3D scene...
...once we hit that 30 day window the amount of developer interest is going to sink quickly, not to mention the untold thousands of E3D handsets from twitchy users (like myself) who can't stand the thought of having a locked phone or a phone that is unlocked late in the game with a lame-duck dev community.
Samsung has been sending out SGS2's to developers....and it doesn't have an encryption-signed bootloader.
Search for the thread "hey check out how powerful the EVO 3d is" (something like that) and you will see that hardware is not really superior either way. You could argue it either way and still not be correct.
The above, combined with the reputation of both should make HTC an easy choice....at least in my opinion.
Plus you are right, the software and development side of the 3vo should be a lot better.
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I was in the same boat as you. I wanted to wait for the S2 to come out and compare but since my phone crapped out, I went with the 3D. Do we have a confirm release date for the S2 on Sprint yet?
jkinnison90 said:
Development wise the EVO 3D will be better I'm sure. There's a lot of great developers on this phone right now and will be more coming
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If the developers are unable to crack the bootloader and HTC does not release the unlocked bootloader, then there will be almost 0 development on our phone.
kn1ghts said:
I was in the same boat as you. I wanted to wait for the S2 to come out and compare but since my phone crapped out, I went with the 3D. Do we have a confirm release date for the S2 on Sprint yet?
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No. There hasn't even been an official statement indicating that it is coming to Sprint. Last year I believe the phones arrival to Sprint was announced in mid-late July. Then, in early August the late August release date was announced. Looks like we may be seeing the same trend. Sadly, if the E3D is not unlocked soon, I may be getting an SGS2 as well though vastly prefer HTC's products over Samsung's.
If the SGS2 came out the same time I probably wouldve picked it over the 3d. In almost all reviews I've read that SGS2 is fast and unable to be slowed down. Tegra 2 games also will play once you root it and install chainfire. Look at this lengthy review below and I recommend watching some of the video comparisons with some other phones. If theres no full root on the 3d and as long as there's an official announcement of the SGS2 (regardless if its coming july or august)within 30 days that I've had my 3d then mines probably also going back.
http://samsunggalaxysforums.com/sho...l-done-now-links-inside-for-anyone-interested...
July 24th is the highly anticipated yet unofficial release date.
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July 24th is the highly anticipated yet unofficial release date.
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That's just way too easy....
...though if Samsung had anything to do with it it was a brilliant maneuver.
If the phone came out tomorrow I would say the GSII. Development on the 3D is dead in the water & looks to stay that way unless HTC decides to unlock the bootloader & nand. Pound for pound the GSII looks to be the better phone hardwise if your read all of the reviews. But history tells us that Samsung is notorious for not supporting their devices & the dev community seems to like HTC products better but that may change with the 3D/Sensation debacle that is unfolding & Samsung seems to be catching on with support. Hard one to call right now. I'm gonna upgrade my Epic to the GSII or Prime if they come to Sprint but if this bootloader/nand situation doesn't get straightend out before 30 days the 3D is going back & I'll just have the OG Evo & GSII/Prime.
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I had Verizon's version of the Galaxy S 1 and it was a huge disappointment. Not because of the hardware... the hardware as awesome which is why I bought it... but because of Samsung bloat, touchwiz and having to wait 6+ months for the 2.2 update to roll out. I wouldn't touch a Galaxy S 2 until Samsung shows they're able to support a phone for more than a month.
(Unless HTC fails to unlock their bootloader, in that case I'd swallow my pride and move to an S2)
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If the phone came out tomorrow I would say the GSII. Development on the 3D is dead in the water & looks to stay that way unless HTC decides to unlock the bootloader & nand. Pound for pound the GSII looks to be the better phone hardwise if your read all of the reviews. But history tells us that Samsung is notorious for not supporting their devices & the dev community seems to like HTC products better but may change with the 3D/Sensation debacle that is unfolding & Samsung seems to be catching on with support. Hard one to call right now. I'm gonna upgrade my Epic to the GSII or Prime if they come to Sprint but if this bootloader/nand situation doesn't get straightend out before 30 days the 3D is going back & I'll just have the OG Evo & GSII/Prime.
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I'm with you man... I just took a peek into the GSII forum and, um, yeah, I think my mind is made up. Most of that would be good for us with minimal tweaking I'd imagine...
Way to go HTC.
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I had Verizon's version of the Galaxy S 1 and it was a huge disappointment. Not because of the hardware... the hardware as awesome which is why I bought it... but because of Samsung bloat, touchwiz and having to wait 6+ months for the 2.2 update to roll out. I wouldn't touch a Galaxy S 2 until Samsung shows they're able to support a phone for more than a month.
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who cares about mfgr support? If the hardware is good and the is a dev community...well...I'm in. GS2 already has most of CM7 ready....CDMA version would likely require a little tweaking, but, likely not much.
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who cares about mfgr support? If the hardware is good and the is a dev community...well...I'm in. GS2 already has most of CM7 ready....CDMA version would likely require a little tweaking, but, likely not much.
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Mfgr support goes a long way, especially when major updates are concerned. Take the Epic for example. Before the official Froyo update we had a few leaks & ROMS built off those leaks but none of them (and I tried them all) came without a major bug or flaw. It's always better to base a ROM off of a official update rather than a leaked one.
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Mfgr support goes a long way, especially when major updates are concerned. Take the Epic for example. Before the official Froyo update we had a few leaks & ROMS built off those leaks but none of them (and I tried them all) came without a major bug or flaw. It's always better to base a ROM off of a official update rather than a leaked one.
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There were no pure AOSP offerings? I am obviously not familiar at all with the landscape on the Samsung side of things--I ditched my moment for my EVO4G and haven't looked back....But I'd imagine that as long as they release their kernel source there would be a handful of pure AOSP roms, at the least....I see CM7 is almost together for the GS2, I'd imagine there would be the usual collection of CM based roms at the very least. I also see MIUI is being maintained for the GS2 already...
...just supply the kernel source and update the radios as needed. I'm well familiar with Samsung's desire to never update anything past release.
SGSII is awesome, I watched a hands on video of it last night, made me excited. LOL
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SGSII is awesome, I watched a hands on video of it last night, made me excited. LOL
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Made me excited too till I read the forums if people who have it......lots of issues it seems.
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It's looking like the sgs2 for me as well. Quality on the evo 3d just doesn't seem to be there
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Ok guys, the time is almost upon us. Who's gonna be getting the SGS II on ATT this weekend? I plan on calling my local B&M stores to see who has it(possibly for a lower price)
I posted here, because the Captivate is a Galaxy S phone and there is no dedicated forum for the ATT SGS II yet
Ide like to get it. But I don't know how much its gonna be off contract
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They took too long to get it out. The Nexus Prime is just around the corner and there are already rumblings about a quad-core SGS III for the first half of next year. I'm going to wait and see what the Prime is all about and if there are any problems with it. If not, I may jump on the Prime. If the GPS sucks or something else is wrong with it, I'll wait for the SGS III.
Plus, it looks like the SGS2 won't have LTE. If I'm going to be locked into a phone for 18 to 24 months, I'll want LTE capability for when it starts rolling out.
I guarantee if I buy an HSPA phone, they'll put an LTE tower in my back yard a week later.
[raises hand]
I'll be getting it.
Dual core HSPA+ is fine with me, and the by the time a quad-core with LTE is available through AT&T I will be able to get the discount again. No point in waiting since AT&T is the only carrier that reaches my house.
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They took too long to get it out. The Nexus Prime is just around the corner and there are already rumblings about a quad-core SGS III for the first half of next year. I'm going to wait and see what the Prime is all about and if there are any problems with it. If not, I may jump on the Prime. If the GPS sucks or something else is wrong with it, I'll wait for the SGS III.
Plus, it looks like the SGS2 won't have LTE. If I'm going to be locked into a phone for 18 to 24 months, I'll want LTE capability for when it starts rolling out.
I guarantee if I buy an HSPA phone, they'll put an LTE tower in my back yard a week later.
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This was my thinking for a little while but a few things swayed me back. The prime is rumored to have a 4.65" or bigger display. This is just way to big for me. The only way I could see this feeling nice is if the screen took up more space on the front, meaning closer to the edges. For example if it was the entire phone was the same size as the infuse it might not be too bad. As for LTE that doesn't matter to me because by the time they have a decent and functional network this phone will be long gone. Also rumors suggest that once you get an LTE phone you automatically get switched to a 2gb plan. No more unlimited .
Another thing to consider is that we don't know when this phone will launch on at&t. Verizon could easily have an exclusivity period and we could be left waiting and drooling for months.
But the real icing on the cake for me is I'm using a family members upgrade for this. My line is due for an upgrade in May so we'll see what happens then.
I'm torn. I love my Captivate, it's rooted and running great, except for a few GPS quirks. As awesome as the GSII looks, I may hold off for a little bit anyway to get some feedback, especially with respect to GPS, rooting, and battery life. Plus, I'll need a good case like my Body Glove TPU Case...
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I'm torn. I love my Captivate, it's rooted and running great, except for a few GPS quirks. As awesome as the GSII looks, I may hold off for a little bit anyway to get some feedback, especially with respect to GPS, rooting, and battery life. Plus, I'll need a good case like my Body Glove TPU Case...
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Yeah I love my Captivate too. Its been super smooth on GB 2.3.5! Much more than I ever imagined when I first got it. I'm hoping the SGS II will be the same way. With little time there will be safe rooting methods and some really stable Roms
I'm getting one. The way my plan is setup I can upgrade every year (my wife gets the old phone) . So no issue here. Also, there's always a new and best just around the corner as soon as something awesome is available in the market.
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Let's just hope we don't get a bunch of "goodbye I got another phone" threads.
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Not me cappy works just fine, no need to replace it.
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Hurricane Andrew said:
I'm torn. I love my Captivate, it's rooted and running great, except for a few GPS quirks. As awesome as the GSII looks, I may hold off for a little bit anyway to get some feedback, especially with respect to GPS, rooting, and battery life. Plus, I'll need a good case like my Body Glove TPU Case...
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Go cruise the SGSII section to answer your questions. Apparently they are getting pretty good battery life out of them. Haven't seen a single bad GPS thread, and there are several ROMS available. Now that the US is starting to get these, i'd expect the developement to get even heavier. I guess that answers most of your questions.
You gotta remember that this phone has been out for several months already and is the number one selling phone in Europe and Asia. It's just now hitting here.
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I'm getting one. The way my plan is setup I can upgrade every year (my wife gets the old phone) . So no issue here. Also, there's always a new and best just around the corner as soon as something awesome is available in the market.
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Same here. Planning on picking one up next Monday morning, going to be coming home from GABF on Sunday.
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Same here. Planning on picking one up next Monday morning, going to be coming home from GABF on Sunday.
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Make sure you are lucid Monday morning, otherwise you might come home with an Infuse...
Gettin one for sure. Been waiting forever. I cant wait around for quadcore or lte. Single core has been fast enough. With 8mp camera, 1080p record, super amoled +, and dual core, how could it get better. Maybe the specs of the next best phones can say its better but how could you tell. I think i can live with SGS2 specs for two years
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Just sold my captivate on Ebay for 200 which will go directly to my sgs2.
<----- Is getting one ! LOVE my captivate but it's time to pass her down to my daughter who is just as excited about getting my captivate!
I must say I completely get why some are staying with the captivate. It's a wonderful phone after putting one of the many many excellent roms on it.
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I must say I completely get why some are staying with the captivate. It's a wonderful phone after putting one of the many many excellent roms on it.
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That's quite true. Captivate will always be like the 'first car', where most of us are emotionally attached.
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The anticipation should probably be moved here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1301
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The anticipation should probably be moved here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1301
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Nice! I knew dedicated forums weren't far away
Edit: Mod please move to appropriate forum, thanks.
I'm torn now. I ordered the Kindle fire. And in 4months I'm confident that something as good or better will be out. Do I want to spend another 200 bucks?
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Hello,
As a former HTC EVO3D Owner from the "First to Buy" opportunity in June before Sprint sold their soul to get the iPhone and before that an EVO 4G, I gotta say I absolutely am blown away by the Photon. I was quite intrigued by it when it was released, but Sprint staggered the release so that it was past 30 Days between when the 2 Phones were released.
I had so many issues with my 3D that I literally had 4 Replacement Handsets sent. I was finally so fed up that I told them either give me a Photon or I am cancelling.
The one thing I did not want to do is give up my last Annual Upgrade which they offered to move up if I paid $55 due to LTE coming and actually having a real chance of Nationwide availability.
Back to the Photon, while it took about 45 minutes to get used to the UI, I am really liking this phone more and more each day. And the Speaker is absurdly better than the one in the 3D. As in I can finally hear Netflix and all the Music on my Phone.
While I hope there is an official ICS Release, there are obviously ways around it. Moreover, with the vastly better Call Quality, Speaker, and just how much better it works in low signal strength areas, I am pretty much positive I will be getting whatever Motorola LTE device that comes out around June. Hopefully, it will be similar to the Razr.
It is weird, I have been with Sprint since 1999 and one of my all time favorite Phones was the StarTac I had around a decade ago. Unfortunately, my ex GF's Dog took it and digged a hole in the Yard. (found years later) Since then, there have been very few Motorola Handsets. I can only hope Sprint maintains at least cordial relations with Moto.
Cheers,
JJ
Welcome dude! You think its fast now, try unlocking and running CM7/CM9(ics) it will blow your mind. I'm pretty sure it's getting an official ICS update but the ics build we have now is phenomenal even at alpha stage.
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Welcome dude! You think its fast now, try unlocking and running CM7/CM9(ics) it will blow your mind. I'm pretty sure it's getting an official ICS update but the ics build we have now is phenomenal even at alpha stage.
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Hello,
Thanx for the welcome. I am planning on Rooting and running CM7 this Weekend.
Cheers,
JJ
Jungle Jack said:
Hello,
Thanx for the welcome. I am planning on Rooting and running CM7 this Weekend.
Cheers,
JJ
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Ive been switching between CM7 and CM9 back and forth but CM7 is my daily driver. ICS is coming along nicely I must say. Don't forget you lose 4G when you unlock your device
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Ive been switching between CM7 and CM9 back and forth but CM7 is my daily driver. ICS is coming along nicely I must say. Don't forget you lose 4G when you unlock your device
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Welcome! Hang out! I'm rooted, but not unlocked. Funny Kenny, I had my Evo for a year, I got Photon August 2nd 2011. I have used 4G EXACTLY 3 times!!!
Hello,
My most sincerest thanks again for the warm welcome. I have been with Sprint since 1999 and must say this is my favorite Handset by a Country Mile. Next comes Rooting and all that fun stuff.
I also love that when using ADW EX that the Motorola Widgets are available whereas the HTC Sense Widgets are not. And the difference with 4G staying connected is amazing. I was in Tampa/St. Pete today and the Photon never dropped Wimax whereas the 3D constantly did.
Cheers,
J
I am also coming from the evo 3d, I've had the photon for about a week now and it is really a great phone there are only a few things o don't like but can deal with it
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NewYorkChic said:
I am also coming from the evo 3d, I've had the photon for about a week now and it is really a great phone there are only a few things o don't like but can deal with it
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Out of curiosity, what don't you like about it?
Not to hijack but I'm totally opposite OP. Coming from Evo4g I think the Photon is a POS...I've had 3 replacements (reboot issues) and the 3rd still has trouble...mind you, all my issues are in heavy roam/no signal areas which I believe to be the factor but these probs didn't exist for my evo.
However, I recently flashed jokers cm9/ics and can vouch for Kenny's claims...this rom is sick as hell and so far my phone feels like a new unit. No crashes or issues yet in my roaming state, I can only cross my fingers at this point.
I'll likely jump ship if the Nexus hits anytime soon.
@cclarck, nothing personal, but do you think maybe it's you? you stated you flashed it, maybe your area does not like your radio? You also stated roaming?
Just saying. I have been reading for @ week on the Nexus, not impressed at all. (and if you have problems with Photon, good luck with the Samsung!)
Me specifically? No I don't believe so...now my photon in relation to my area...yes most likely. As you can see I'm a lurker but I have quite a bit of experience trying new roms/kernels on all my phones but the Photon has been nothing but frustrations to this point. That being said, it's not like there was a disclaimer on the Photon when I upgraded saying that it's radio would be complete sh!t compared to my evo while roaming, all while causing shutdowns requiring a battery pull/plugin.
I'd like to reinforce that cm9/ics so far is phenomenal, but 2 days soak is hardly extensive testing yet...
edit: Oh and I am certainly very scared to go to a Sammy, I think their build quality is the worst and I hate the plastic feel. My main reason for jumping aside from my photon history is wanting that huge screen; and I like the nex over the touch. Sprint needs more phones =(
If you want a huge screen skip the galaxy nexus and wait for the galaxy note. Sprint's definitely getting and that screen is even bigger. If you don't know what the galaxy note is check this out....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfMmMrUwRnI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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If you want a huge screen skip the galaxy nexus and wait for the galaxy note. Sprint's definitely getting and that screen is even bigger. If you don't know what the galaxy note is check this out....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfMmMrUwRnI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I'm not a fan of Samsung, but that will make this brother walk the plank and see ya!!
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I'm not a fan of Samsung, but that will make this brother walk the plank and see ya!!
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Yeah I don't like sammy either but this phone looks cool. I'm not going to get it as my contract expires this Feb. I may move my 2 lines somewhere else don't know yet. Sprints future looks promising with lte and all the hot devices launching but I simply can't wait till 2013 lol. I want to go back to gsm so I can swap sim cards as I please lol. God I hate cdma! I'm thinking att, definitely not t-mobile I worked there previously for almost 4 years. (I hate those bastards)
I've had att and never ever again, I've been through every carrier and they were the most frustrating with dropped calls and such. Unfortunately, my area is predominately Verizon but I missed the grandfathered data so no thanks to that too.
I dunno, every phone has it's fan base that disses on other brands and what-not so I get it. I haven't had Sammy experience since the Incredibad so maybe their build quality is better than I give credit...I def see a love/hate for every brand though, not just sammy.
I was in love with my photon when I first had it, even ignoring all the launch issues and replacements but it all eventually wore me down to never wanting a moto again =(
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Yeah I don't like sammy either but this phone looks cool. I'm not going to get it as my contract expires this Feb. I may move my 2 lines somewhere else don't know yet. Sprints future looks promising with lte and all the hot devices launching but I simply can't wait till 2013 lol. I want to go back to gsm so I can swap sim cards as I please lol. God I hate cdma! I'm thinking att, definitely not t-mobile I worked there previously for almost 4 years. (I hate those bastards)
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Oh I'm gonna get it, day one, full price!!! I just hope they drop it before summer!! And it may be GSM/CDMA, who knows. @ the poster before me, yes all phones have their good and bad and you have individuals that talk negative about other phones, but each phone I look up, EVERYONE has a negative comment on Sammy's radios!! EVERYONE!!
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I've had att and never ever again, I've been through every carrier and they were the most frustrating with dropped calls and such. Unfortunately, my area is predominately Verizon but I missed the grandfathered data so no thanks to that too.
I dunno, every phone has it's fan base that disses on other brands and what-not so I get it. I haven't had Sammy experience since the Incredibad so maybe their build quality is better than I give credit...I def see a love/hate for every brand though, not just sammy.
I was in love with my photon when I first had it, even ignoring all the launch issues and replacements but it all eventually wore me down to never wanting a moto again =(
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Perhaps you may want to look into this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1211157
It's a bit of a pain to set up at first but once you do it's worth it. My calls drop all the time in my apartment with Sprint, but not at all using a Verizon PRL.
There's a danger of roaming too much and getting noticed by Sprint, but for most people it seems to take 3+ months for Sprint to notice, and even then you'll more than likely receive a warning letter first.
I've been using this over over 6 months and I've gotten 1 warning letter but when I inquired about it with a Sprint chat rep, he said I was not in danger of being cut.
So YMVM, but it'd help at least short-term.
Hello,
For some reason, I cannot stand Samsung. This extends to their TV's and other Home Theater Components. I am a Moderator on a Moderator on a AV Forum with close to 100,000 Members and find it hard to recommend them.
For whatever reason, I lump them in with Hyundai (I must say they have made huge strides over the past years since the $3,999 Hyundai Excel) Regardless, I tend to prefer the Japanese and American Companies. I know everything is manufactured in China or Malaysia.
Cheers,
JJ
I am ALSO Rooted but NOT Unlocked. My area is Saturated with 4G and I use it ALOT. I have Unlimited Mobile Hotspot (GrandFathered in since I have been a customer since 1997) and use it on my Samsung Galaxy Player5.0 and HTC EVO View 4G (while out and about). I only use WiFi on the HTC EVO View (Did Not want ANOTHER Data Contract) and just Tether to my Photon.
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
I guess we can now close the other ICS update related threads...
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Great.. What pricks.
This is such bs, from ICS in Q3, to Q4 to not at all. Such a shame that they screwed us over like this
DOH! Oh well...I love our developers anyway
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This is such bs, from ICS in Q3, to Q4 to not at all. Such a shame that they screwed us over like this
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Yep, apparently development moves backwards over at motorola.
Sure does stink
Atrix 4G, Photon 4G and Electrify will not receive Ice Cream Sandwich, says Motorola http://bit.ly/QalFQx
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I'm really over all this upgrade lottery bs. My wife & the kids all want iPhones, so be it...at least they'll get an upgrade (or 2). I'll either go Nexus or Nokia 920...I'm so over this...
Anyone want a Photon & Atrix (modded) Lapdock. I'll likely activate my Pre again.
Anyone else hear that sound?
It's the sound of me not buying a Motorola device ever again...
Motorola never Again! #MotoFail #MotoNeverAgain #MotoNoMore
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dorelse said:
I'm really over all this upgrade lottery bs. My wife & the kids all want iPhones, so be it...at least they'll get an upgrade (or 2). I'll either go Nexus or Nokia 920...I'm so over this...
Anyone want a Photon & Atrix (modded) Lapdock. I'll likely activate my Pre again.
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If you have an unlocked bootloader I'd love your photon lol.
Damn, I actually wanted to believe "Further Plans Coming Soon" was a turning point.........
it's funny. i was an early webOS palm pre supporter back in 2009. and when they announced that the pre wouldn't get webOS 2.0 i was FUMING. and gave up on webOS entirely. along comes my 2011 upgrade and I have 3 choices...the evo 3D that everyone was kind of salty on on account of the 3D being a gimicky and the camera being weak...the galaxy SII when samsung was basically just another android handset oem, amidst tons of critisism about the original galaxy s, especially on sprint where updates were delayed and people complained about lack of support....and the photon 4g.
so, given the issues with the evo3d and the galaxy sii's predecessor, i thought it best to go with the photon. particulary given the anticipated google takeover.
and here we are, on the cusp of october 2012 and the evo 3D and the epic 4g touch BOTH have BEEN had ICS.
what a disaster. i'm done with motorola. DONE
I agree moto really has made a lot of people mad. They are going to lose a bunch of customers. Including my self.
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cleverly locked the boot loaders and abandoned the phones. I knew it when they massively shipped out photons to third world counties.
Maybe google trying to destroy the company! who knows!
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cleverly locked the boot loaders and abandoned the phones. I knew it when they massively shipped out photons to third world counties.
Maybe google trying to destroy the company! who knows!
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Maybe.
They will burn it to rise it from ashes and produce only one top Nexus device.
With ICS update, it was obvious.
Keep thinking Motorola will get better. They have sucked for years and will continue to suck. Time to get on ebay and find me a new phone that's not made by Motorola.
F*** YOU MOTOROLA...
i PLEDGE NOT/NEVER TO BUY ANY MOTOROLA PHONE IN FUTURE...
LET'S CREATE A THREAD AT MOTOROLA FORUM AND EXPRESS OUR FEELINGS/EXPECTATIONS...
JOIN AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE, SO THAT THEY WILL COME TO KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO LOOSE A GOOD NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS...
WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE SAY?
Now everybody repeat after me: "I won't buy an Android device without Nexus branding anymore".
No, I am going to buy Xperia T soon.
haha. Sony is doing well with updates now. But I think design is a step backward from Xperia S.