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I am completely new to Android, I've never used it before. I'm looking into the Atrix, and one question I wanted to ask - is it possible to do an utter and complete backup of the phone? By which I mean, no matter what gets screwed up in the O/S, or with future attempts to load a custom ROM, etc... - I would be able to restore the phone to its original factory condition.
Is this possible, and if so, how?
If not, what limitations are there?
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I am completely new to Android, I've never used it before. I'm looking into the Atrix, and one question I wanted to ask - is it possible to do an utter and complete backup of the phone? By which I mean, no matter what gets screwed up in the O/S, or with future attempts to load a custom ROM, etc... - I would be able to restore the phone to its original factory condition.
Is this possible, and if so, how?
If not, what limitations are there?
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So, I guess you didn't see the "Atrix 4G Q&A" sub forum? Wheres Mr.Clown? He'll move this soon enough...
there is an SBF thread which allows u to unbrick ur phone and return it to stock assuming ur Atrix is ATT branded, if ur not familiar with how command line interfaces work then u really shouldnt be doin much modding just yet.
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So, I guess you didn't see the "Atrix 4G Q&A" sub forum? Wheres Mr.Clown? He'll move this soon enough...
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I saw it, but I thought it had to do with general product questions, not questions regarding modding.
djkinetic said:
there is an SBF thread which allows u to unbrick ur phone and return it to stock assuming ur Atrix is ATT branded, if ur not familiar with how command line interfaces work then u really shouldnt be doin much modding just yet.
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Thank you. I appreciate your trying to answer my question.
The simple answer is we do not have a full backup option yet. A nandroid backup would provide the full image type of backup you are looking for, but it's not accessible at this time.
You can currently only back up individual parts separately. Titanium Backup for root can help with apps. Blur can store your user settings. Google/Gmail keeps your contacts. As already stated above, flashing the leaked SBF will take you back to (near) stock, but will wipe most everything to get there.
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The simple answer is we do not have a full backup option yet. A nandroid backup would provide the full image type of backup you are looking for, but it's not accessible at this time.
You can currently only back up individual parts separately. Titanium Backup for root can help with apps. Blur can store your user settings. Google/Gmail keeps your contacts. As already stated above, flashing the leaked SBF will take you back to (near) stock, but will wipe most everything to get there.
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I'm not worried about backing up components or data. I'm looking for a way to ensure that no matter what shape the O/S is (including being bricked), that it's still possible to restore the phone to factory new condition. I don't mind wiping the phone to get there, that's assumed as part of the process.
The SBF is a good start, but what concerns me is that it's not quite identical to what's originally on the phone. That's why I was hoping for a way to do a local backup that would guarantee an identical restore state.
If nandroid would accomplish this, what is the current roadblock to using it?
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I'm not worried about backing up components or data. I'm looking for a way to ensure that no matter what shape the O/S is (including being bricked), that it's still possible to restore the phone to factory new condition. I don't mind wiping the phone to get there, that's assumed as part of the process.
The SBF is a good start, but what concerns me is that it's not quite identical to what's originally on the phone. That's why I was hoping for a way to do a local backup that would guarantee an identical restore state.
If nandroid would accomplish this, what is the current roadblock to using it?
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The SBF is nearly the same as the stock version. It's actually got some bugfixes in it too. The one broken thing is the WiFi firmware (on mostly Enterprise/Corporate networks), which Da_G has fixed. That fix will be included in the 7th beta of GingerBlur.
Moved to Q&A.
FWIW Q&A is for any kind of question pertaining to the device, from "does this phone have a camera" to "what backup methods exist".
Cheers
kennethpenn said:
The SBF is nearly the same as the stock version. It's actually got some bugfixes in it too. The one broken thing is the WiFi firmware (on mostly Enterprise/Corporate networks), which Da_G has fixed. That fix will be included in the 7th beta of GingerBlur.
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That's good to know. But I just wanted to clarify which SBF we're talking about. I thought the one to use if you needed to unbrick and return to stock was OLYFR_U4_1.5.2. Is GingerBlur usable for the same purpose? Or are you talking about applying that *after* OLYFR_U4_1.5.2?
pulser_g2 said:
Moved to Q&A.
FWIW Q&A is for any kind of question pertaining to the device, from "does this phone have a camera" to "what backup methods exist".
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Thanks for clarifying!
So hi all, I got my SGS2 about 2 weeks ago and so far am really liking it. I, however, am intrigued about the features that a custom ROM could provide.
Currently I'm looking at Cognition S2. I've read the installation instructions and browsed around the forums reading about this stuff. There are, however, a couple of questions that have risen.
1) Do I need to root my phone before being able to flash Cognition S2? If so, is the best way to do this by getting CF-Root?
2) If I flash said ROM, will I lose all applications and data? If so, is there a way to back them up first? I've read about people recommending Titanium Backup, but even that requires the phone to be rooted so this seems like an egg and a chicken -type of thing to me.
3) If I flash a custom ROM, is there a way to reset the phone back to it's "original" state so that, in case it dies during the warranty, Samsung won't just tell me to get lost because I've flashed it myself?
Basically I'd like to flash, but not if I jeopardize such an expensive toy.
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So hi all, I got my SGS2 about 2 weeks ago and so far am really liking it. I, however, am intrigued about the features that a custom ROM could provide.
Currently I'm looking at Cognition S2. I've read the installation instructions and browsed around the forums reading about this stuff. There are, however, a couple of questions that have risen.
1) Do I need to root my phone before being able to flash Cognition S2? If so, is the best way to do this by getting CF-Root?
2) If I flash said ROM, will I lose all applications and data? If so, is there a way to back them up first? I've read about people recommending Titanium Backup, but even that requires the phone to be rooted so this seems like an egg and a chicken -type of thing to me.
3) If I flash a custom ROM, is there a way to reset the phone back to it's "original" state so that, in case it dies during the warranty, Samsung won't just tell me to get lost because I've flashed it myself?
Basically I'd like to flash, but not if I jeopardize such an expensive toy.
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1. Yes.
2. Yes but once you have root, install Titanium, do a back up and then flash Cognition rom.
3. Yes provided you find the correct version of your carrier's software. But beware : if you don't read carefully and screw your phone up with a bad flash, you might not be able to do it yourself.
Read more and then follow instructions exactly.
zelectral said:
1) Do I need to root my phone before being able to flash Cognition S2? If so, is the best way to do this by getting CF-Root?
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Yes, your phone must be rooted before flashing (most ROMs). Simply flash CF-Root kernel via ODIN and you are done. Really easy.
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2) If I flash said ROM, will I lose all applications and data? If so, is there a way to back them up first?
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Most likely all your apps and settings would remain, BUT. I would highly recommend to boot into CWM recovery (you'll get it by flashing CF-Root kernel), do full wipe and only then flash new ROM.
To backup your apps use AppAdmin/AntTek app Admin/Titanium Backup or some similar app. Titanium Backup has an option to backup app settings/data. Personaly i would NOT use it, but that's another story.
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I've read about people recommending Titanium Backup, but even that requires the phone to be rooted so this seems like an egg and a chicken -type of thing to me.
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1. Flash CF-Root kernel.
2. Backup your apps/contacts/text messages and so on.
3. Boot into CWM recovery and backup your current ROM.
4. Wipe.
5. Flash new ROM
zelectral said:
3) If I flash a custom ROM, is there a way to reset the phone back to it's "original" state so that, in case it dies during the warranty, Samsung won't just tell me to get lost because I've flashed it myself?
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And yes and no. you can restore phone firmware (if you made a backup on step3), you can flash back stock kernel, but SGS2 have two(?) hidden counters that shows how many times you have flashed custom kernels. If counter shows something else then 0 - your warranty is lost. At least it should be like that but friend of mine got repaired his SGS2 with no problems while his counter was showing "3". Perhaps it depends on person who work at repair center.
Hey guys, nice section you have here. I've been reading all about the Atrix and have a couple of questions to confirm what i'm assuming.
Oh yeah, is the Atrix and Atrix 4G the same? I'm assuming so as i've not seen different specs or sections for it here, just wanted to be 100000% sure as i've never owned an android phone!
If i keep the Bootloader locked, is it impossible for me to hard brick the device? Seeing as though i can't freely flash to a lower firmware? (not including things like upgrading to official firmware and running out of battery etc, that's a sure fire way of bricking
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Just say i'm on 2.3.4 and i'm rooted and unlocked, if i flash CM7, can i reflash something like Alien or MIUI (when or if it gets ported) without ANY chance of a hard brick (AKA does it touch the bootloader and/or does it carry the risks which the flashing of a lower firmware does?)
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Would LauncherPro and other theme programs be available across the wide range of ROMS as long as i'm rooted?
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Thanks for your time guys, i'm busy reading up and watching the few videos on youtube (seriously, hardly anyone makes videos about this phone, what's up with that? ) I do have a cold right about now so will take a rest but i can't sleep knowing that i may soon be getting this phone (if my order for a Samsung Galaxy S (1) is not accepted by Vodafone and their stringent credit checks!)
Thanks again guys, hope to see you around soon!
The phone will be on T-Mobile in the UK. Hopefully!
First and last bump! I was wondering if installing LauncherPro would have any negative effects on the speed of the phone? It's dual core and has 1gb ram so i'm thinking the new launcher would not cause any lag but has anyone tried this and found out that it does indeed lag?
No not impossible, i would think it would be easier to brick with a locked bl.
Yes you can reflash, and no you won't get the "lower fw brick".
Yes you can use other launchers, always.
Thanks a lot mate.
To expand on the 1st answer, is it because with the locked BL, i can't install CWM so technically if i brick, it'll be harder if not impossible to fix it? So in a way, an unlocked BL is safer then, as long as i don't try to downgrade? That sounds kinda awesome!
Also, after the first flash, is it easier to flash another rom or is it the same process? I mean, is the 1st flash always the hardest and longest? Because i'm thinking that the 1st time flash would have me install a lot of things, and the next time i reflash, i can use the things i already installed the 1st time (such as CWM etc) to flash another rom can't i? I just want to be able to swap between a few different ROMS without having to risk a hard brick! Thanks for your answers btw, really appreciate it
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Thanks a lot mate.
To expand on the 1st answer, is it because with the locked BL, i can't install CWM so technically if i brick, it'll be harder if not impossible to fix it? So in a way, an unlocked BL is safer then, as long as i don't try to downgrade? That sounds kinda awesome!
Also, after the first flash, is it easier to flash another rom or is it the same process? I mean, is the 1st flash always the hardest and longest? Because i'm thinking that the 1st time flash would have me install a lot of things, and the next time i reflash, i can use the things i already installed the 1st time (such as CWM etc) to flash another rom can't i? I just want to be able to swap between a few different ROMS without having to risk a hard brick! Thanks for your answers btw, really appreciate it
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Thats right, the unlocked bootloader is the best way to go if you plan on flashing because of custom recovery.
Yes most likely its about the same process BUT, most if not all ROMs will have instructions on how to flash - make sure you read and follow them dont just "do what you did last time".
Prob the easiest way to swap between ROMs easily is to keep nandroid backups for them through cwm.
As far as it being easier to flash the next ROM because you can "keep things from the last flash".. NO you dont want to keep anything between flashing, meaning you should most likley always wipe data, cache & such unless otherwise specified (sometimes upgrading ROMs from one version to the next you can use a "no wipe" upgrade).
Thanks so much! Will install Nandroid asap when i get it! Also, i didn't mean "keep" things as in data and/or apps or cache or whatever, i meant like the 1st flashing would include installing CWM recovery, but the next time i reflash, i won't have to install that again, or would i? If not, then that's great!
Can't wait to try out Cyanogen Mod, theme it up, install some cool apps and just mess around with it! Bookmarked every section of the Atrix forum so i can easily read through it
Thank you for your time in helping a confused noob out I have read a lot of guides but without the phone in front of me, and me being completely new to this, it's not really sinking in. Once i get the phone physically in my hands, then i bet i'll learn a lot more!
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Thanks so much! Will install Nandroid asap when i get it! Also, i didn't mean "keep" things as in data and/or apps or cache or whatever, i meant like the 1st flashing would include installing CWM recovery, but the next time i reflash, i won't have to install that again, or would i? If not, then that's great!
Can't wait to try out Cyanogen Mod, theme it up, install some cool apps and just mess around with it! Bookmarked every section of the Atrix forum so i can easily read through it
Thank you for your time in helping a confused noob out I have read a lot of guides but without the phone in front of me, and me being completely new to this, it's not really sinking in. Once i get the phone physically in my hands, then i bet i'll learn a lot more!
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Nandroid backup is a backup through CWM, it is not a seperate app. As far as having to install CWM each time.. No you wont have to, the recovery stays but it should be updated when available, unless stated otherwise. Rom Manager will install the latest version of CWM for you. Doing a backup in CWM is known as a Nandroid backup.
Right, i get it now, i was confusing it with Titanium Backup but i've looked at vids about it and know what it does now. Isn't it risky to read/write from NAND a lot? Hmm
Also, if i Nand backed up my stock firmware (before i flash anything), can i restore from there and return to that stock backup anytime i want? If that's possible then i'm sorted!
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Right, i get it now, i was confusing it with Titanium Backup but i've looked at vids about it and know what it does now. Isn't it risky to read/write from NAND a lot? Hmm
Also, if i Nand backed up my stock firmware (before i flash anything), can i restore from there and return to that stock backup anytime i want? If that's possible then i'm sorted!
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I dont know of any risks to Nandroid backup, only benefits. I have returned to a Nandroid backup on my Captivate but not on the Atrix, i have created a Nandroid backup on (stock) Atrix and recommend do the same jic. I believe you can return to that stock back up (after flashing) if needed but first check out the section on fruitcakes, there is more info along these lines in that thread.
Reading the section now, makes little sense yet but i'm sure i'll understand. What they basically are are roms that don't touch the BL, so doesn't matter if its a lower firmware than the one i'm on because these fruitcakes don't look at the BL and will flash the firmware without bricking, whereas if i downgraded with a stock firmware or something, they touch the BL and will find out it's unlocked and on a newer firmware so the flashing ends up physically bricking the device. That's what i'm basically assuming. Also, read another thread where the OP said he recovered from a stock nandroid backup from a CM7 rom, which sounds a hell of a lot easier than downgrading carefully using special roms!
coolnow said:
Reading the section now, makes little sense yet but i'm sure i'll understand. What they basically are are roms that don't touch the BL, so doesn't matter if its a lower firmware than the one i'm on because these fruitcakes don't look at the BL and will flash the firmware without bricking, whereas if i downgraded with a stock firmware or something, they touch the BL and will find out it's unlocked and on a newer firmware so the flashing ends up physically bricking the device. That's what i'm basically assuming. Also, read another thread where the OP said he recovered from a stock nandroid backup from a CM7 rom, which sounds a hell of a lot easier than downgrading carefully using special roms!
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Dont worry it makes more and more sense as you learn and play with it. Your assumption of fruitcakes is my understanding as well. I agree that nandroid backup/restore seams a slightly easier method than fruitcakes, but thought I would include the fruitcake methods for you seeing as how you were concerned of a risk with nand, plus the more reading the better. Also NandBacks do take up a good amount of storage space, but are worth it jic. As long as you read you should be just fine, reading here on xda is the best thing you can do to keep from screwing something up. Good luck.
Thank you mate, i really appreciate your time! If i wasn't so ill, i'd be understanding more i think, but i have to look away every few seconds or else my eyes will explode haha, i guess i'm not getting the Galaxy S anymore, i hope i don't regret it! And with the method of hiding the unlocked bootloader, i'm hoping IF anything bad happens, then i still have a chance of tricking the tricksters who gave us these locked down phones in the first place! Android was supposed to be free and open I'm just glad at the thought of getting rid of my iPhone 3g + iTunes + Quicktime.
Also, in your opinion, is ADW EX better than Launcher Pro?
I'm not an android noob...
But just curiously browsing this forum because my sister is getting an Eris as a semi-permanent replacement for her crapberry that she lost.
I can't stand to see her stuck on cupcake...and she's given me the go-ahead to get her up to speed.
I plan on putting CM7 on there for her...
But I have a few questions.
Rooting:
Should I just use this application?
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwyLDEsIm5ldC5hbmRpcmMuZXJpc3Jvb3RlciJd
And then to get CWM...
Rom Manager?
I see that CWM is bricking phones...why is that and how common is it?
Are there alternatives I should use instead (RZrecovery or similar?)
And as far as returning to stock...
We use SBF's with Motorola.
What is the alternative here?
Do I have to rely on Nandroids?
Can I restore a stock nandroid from CM7?
Jubakuba said:
I'm not an android noob...
But just curiously browsing this forum because my sister is getting an Eris as a semi-permanent replacement for her crapberry that she lost.
I can't stand to see her stuck on cupcake...and she's given me the go-ahead to get her up to speed.
I plan on putting CM7 on there for her...
But I have a few questions.
Rooting:
Should I just use this application?
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwyLDEsIm5ldC5hbmRpcmMuZXJpc3Jvb3RlciJd
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Yes. Install the app. Run the app. It will tell you to restart the phone - so, that means shut down the phone. Start it back up again. That will have installed Amon_RA recovery, which will allow you to Nandroid backup, install a custom ROM, etc.
(So, after that restart, you can shut the phone down, hold VolUp while powering on to get to Amon_RA recovery. You sound experienced enough to know what to do from there.)
By the way, the Eris by now should have Eclair (2.1), not cupcake (1.5). There should have been three OTAs that brought cupcake up to 2.1.
And then to get CWM...
Rom Manager?
I see that CWM is bricking phones...why is that and how common is it?
Are there alternatives I should use instead (RZrecovery or similar?)
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As you have seen, many people running Clockwork Recovery as the default recovery have bricked their Erises. ROM Manager comes with almost all of the CM7 ROMs, but you can install it. From within ROM Manager you can have it flash Clockwork, which puts an update.zip file on the SD Card. Go into Amon_RA Recovery, Flash a zip from SD card, choose update.zip, and it will start Clockwork, if you prefer using that. (I actually always do this, as I prefer the Nandroid backup and wipe functions in Clockwork over Amon_RA.) Running Clockwork in this way is safe, as Amon_RA remains as the default recovery.
And as far as returning to stock...
We use SBF's with Motorola.
What is the alternative here?
Do I have to rely on Nandroids?
Can I restore a stock nandroid from CM7?
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No SBF files for the Eris; however, user bftb0 created a ROM that you can flash that reinstalls stock Recovery and the stock 2.1 ROM. It's called Flashback_21v2, located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792026
The no radio version should be fine for this purpose.
Perfect.
And I even meant to ask if there was a way to boot into the custom recovery from a power-off state...which you already covered!
That's all I needed.
I appreciate the time you put into answering every question...most people tend to pick one and then the thread dies.
Thanks!
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Oh, and ya her phone hasn't arrived yet...
The HTC official website said Cupcake...wow that would have been out-of-date!
Okay, before any of the regular contributors here say something nasty to me for asking a question that's been asked and answered, I want you to know that I have spent 2 days reading through -all- xda forums that might even -remotely- relate to my problem, without finding any answers. I also spent several hours searching all the common Android forums elsewhere, as well as, silly sites like Yahoo answers, etc., but have not been able to find the answer to my question. I'm the first to admit that reading the exorbitant amount of information in here causes my brain to short circuit due to all the numbers, versions, etc. It's like reading tax code; use C1.4.6 unless you've submitted b45.1. In that case, use d16.9, unless you've also filed a p32 in the last 2 years...if so, then....blah blah blah.
I love all you cell phone OS gurus and am quite envious of your ability to effortlessly wade through the technology involved in these phones. I wish, wholeheartedly, that I didn't have to ask any questions here because I know how irritated many of you become over people like me asking stupid questions, but I have no where else to turn. Believe me, if I could go elsewhere, I would, for your sake.
I was running 2.3.4, rooted, stock ROM. Froze the system with TB Pro to prevent the upgrade to 2.3.6. Unfroze it. Upgraded. Decided to unroot so I could sell my phone in favor of another. Ran Odin. Ran SuperOneClick. Ahhh...and there's the problem. SOC doesn't work with 2.3.6. So now, I don't know what to do. My phone is half rooted. I can't unroot and I can't reroot. I get the triangle, but TB Pro doesn't work because I'm not rooted, well. sort of not rooted. I guess I'm a little rooted. I don't know what to do next mainly because, every time I find what I think is a solution, I find another source that says, "DON'T DO IT! YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PHONE!" So, here I am, hoping someone will point me in the right direction without chastising me for asking a stupid question. I checked the solution in here and it's great, except, and I quote "Not working for KK6 2.3.6"
Thanks for any help....
So, what you need to do at this point is flash back to stock 2.3.4 using the instructions in the How to prepare your phone ... thread which is a sticky in the general section of this I777 forum. Since you were stock before, and evidently didn't flash any custom firmware, you should be fine flashing the stock distribution with Odin or Heimdall, or using the Odin one-click downloader.
First enter 3e recovery and perform a wipe data/factory reset, then do the Odin or Heimdall flash. The thread has instructions to clear your personal data as well.
Now, you know, I read that post along with all the stickies, about how to return the phone to stock, but I couldn't find any mention of whether or not it worked with a half rooted phone. I didn't want to be one of those people who blindly followed directions not intended for her situation, only to wind up bricking my phone or in a constant boot loop.
Thank you for not criticizing me for my apparent stupidity. I do my best.
Thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction.
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Now, you know, I read that post along with all the stickies, about how to return the phone to stock, but I couldn't find any mention of whether or not it worked with a half rooted phone. I didn't want to be one of those people who blindly followed directions not intended for her situation, only to wind up bricking my phone or in a constant boot loop.
Thank you for not criticizing me for my apparent stupidity. I do my best.
Thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction.
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You can't have a "half rooted" phone, and it wouldn't matter at all anyway since you're going to be booting into download mode in order to flash to stock.
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First of all:
Understand what 'ROOT' is.
IT IS ADMINISTRATOR ACCESS TO YOUR DEVICE, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
everything for 'root' resides in the OS under the /system partition...which means when you load a new/stock rom on it, everything in /system gets wiped...
root has nothing to do with recovery mode or download mode. you cant be 'half-rooted'. you either have administrator access or you dont, plain and simple.
When I rooted so very long ago, I used SGH-I777_ClockworkMod-Recovery_5.0.2.3 that I downloaded with su-3.0-efgh-signed. At the time, I didn't understand what this was. I only understood that this would root my phone. I didn't want to flash any custom ROM's because, to this day, I really don't understand what a ROM is. Yes, I've read about it. Still don't get it. So, did I flash a custom ROM? As far as I knew, all I did was root so I could use TBPro to backup and freeze, and use LBE to keep my information as private as possible.
<edit> So I've just reread many of your posts. You really are great at explaining this stuff and I thank you for that. It seems, from what I've read, that I can just do a factory reset and the phone should go back to its original state, with 2.3.4. Is that correct?
Thank you, again. I swear I'll be out of everyone's hair in here as soon as is humanly possible.
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So, what you need to do at this point is flash back to stock 2.3.4 using the instructions in the How to prepare your phone ... thread which is a sticky in the general section of this I777 forum. Since you were stock before, and evidently didn't flash any custom firmware, you should be fine flashing the stock distribution with Odin or Heimdall, or using the Odin one-click downloader.
First enter 3e recovery and perform a wipe data/factory reset, then do the Odin or Heimdall flash. The thread has instructions to clear your personal data as well.
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Pirateghost said:
First of all:
Understand what 'ROOT' is.
IT IS ADMINISTRATOR ACCESS TO YOUR DEVICE, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
everything for 'root' resides in the OS under the /system partition...which means when you load a new/stock rom on it, everything in /system gets wiped...
root has nothing to do with recovery mode or download mode. you cant be 'half-rooted'. you either have administrator access or you dont, plain and simple.
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Thank yes, I understood what root was which is why I did it. I just didn't understand the mechanics of getting there. Perhaps it's the same thing that made pre-med chemistry so difficult for me in college. I could do the work, but didn't get the big picture, so I couldn't build a knowledge base. Anyway, I see the triangle and GT I9100 at boot up, yet I cannot access TB Pro as it states I'm not rooted. So, I guess I did unroot, but didn't go all the way because 2.3.6 doesn't play nice with popular root/unroot apps. Thanks for explaining.
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Thank yes, I understood what root was which is why I did it. I just didn't understand the mechanics of getting there. Perhaps it's the same thing that made pre-med chemistry so difficult for me in college. I could do the work, but didn't get the big picture, so I couldn't build a knowledge base. Anyway, I see the triangle and GT I9100 at boot up, yet I cannot access TB Pro as it states I'm not rooted. So, I guess I did unroot, but didn't go all the way because 2.3.6 doesn't play nice with popular root/unroot apps. Thanks for explaining.
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The triangle has nothing to do with root. It only means you flashed a kernel using Odin.
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tunie said:
It seems, from what I've read, that I can just do a factory reset and the phone should go back to its original state, with 2.3.4. Is that correct?
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No. When you do a wipe data/factory reset, this wipes the data partition but does not touch the system partition. So you will still have whatever firmware you started with, which in your case I believe is 2.3.6, but it will be put back to like it was when it was first installed.
That's why I recommended that you perform a wipe data/factory reset, and then flash the 2.3.4 stock firmware. The factory reset is so that when the new 2.3.4 stock firmware boots up, there will be no problems.
Pirateghost said:
The triangle has nothing to do with root. It only means you flashed a kernel using Odin.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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Well thank you. I give up. Really, I do.
creepyncrawly said:
No. When you do a wipe data/factory reset, this wipes the data partition but does not touch the system partition. So you will still have whatever firmware you started with, which in your case I believe is 2.3.6, but it will be put back to like it was when it was first installed.
That's why I recommended that you perform a wipe data/factory reset, and then flash the 2.3.4 stock firmware. The factory reset is so that when the new 2.3.4 stock firmware boots up, there will be no problems.
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Well, I actually understand that. Thank you. My concern now is whether or not I flashed a custom ROM. Clockworkmod appears to be a custom ROM, no? If it isn't, I know what to do, thanks to you. If it is a custom ROM, I don't know what to do next.
tunie said:
Well, I actually understand that. Thank you. My concern now is whether or not I flashed a custom ROM. Clockworkmod appears to be a custom ROM, no? If it isn't, I know what to do, thanks to you. If it is a custom ROM, I don't know what to do next.
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clockwork mod is NOT a custom ROM. clockwork mod is RECOVERY and on this device it is compiled WITH the kernel.
YOU HAVE A CUSTOM/MODIFIED KERNEL
I really dont understand why you dont just follow creepyncrawly's advice and tutorials...you are making this out WAAAAAY harder than it really is.
Pirateghost said:
clockwork mod is NOT a custom ROM. clockwork mod is RECOVERY and on this device it is compiled WITH the kernel.
YOU HAVE A CUSTOM/MODIFIED KERNEL
I really dont understand why you dont just follow creepyncrawly's advice and tutorials...you are making this out WAAAAAY harder than it really is.
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Just want to insure that I've relayed all the necessary information, correctly. I guess I have. Thank you and I'm sorry I took anyone's time.
tunie said:
Well thank you. I give up. Really, I do.
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That dreaded yellow triangle show up when you flash a custom (non-stock) kernel. When you flash a stock kernel, it will go away. So... if you flash back to stock like I suggested, it will go away.
Pm me if you need more assistance
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So, what you need to do at this point is flash back to stock 2.3.4 using the instructions in the How to prepare your phone ... thread which is a sticky in the general section of this I777 forum. Since you were stock before, and evidently didn't flash any custom firmware, you should be fine flashing the stock distribution with Odin or Heimdall, or using the Odin one-click downloader.
First enter 3e recovery and perform a wipe data/factory reset, then do the Odin or Heimdall flash. The thread has instructions to clear your personal data as well.
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Thank you. It worked like a charm. Back to stock. Wonderful. Thank you so much. It wasn't as much a nail-biter as I thought it would be.