Hey guys, nice section you have here. I've been reading all about the Atrix and have a couple of questions to confirm what i'm assuming.
Oh yeah, is the Atrix and Atrix 4G the same? I'm assuming so as i've not seen different specs or sections for it here, just wanted to be 100000% sure as i've never owned an android phone!
If i keep the Bootloader locked, is it impossible for me to hard brick the device? Seeing as though i can't freely flash to a lower firmware? (not including things like upgrading to official firmware and running out of battery etc, that's a sure fire way of bricking
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Just say i'm on 2.3.4 and i'm rooted and unlocked, if i flash CM7, can i reflash something like Alien or MIUI (when or if it gets ported) without ANY chance of a hard brick (AKA does it touch the bootloader and/or does it carry the risks which the flashing of a lower firmware does?)
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Would LauncherPro and other theme programs be available across the wide range of ROMS as long as i'm rooted?
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Thanks for your time guys, i'm busy reading up and watching the few videos on youtube (seriously, hardly anyone makes videos about this phone, what's up with that? ) I do have a cold right about now so will take a rest but i can't sleep knowing that i may soon be getting this phone (if my order for a Samsung Galaxy S (1) is not accepted by Vodafone and their stringent credit checks!)
Thanks again guys, hope to see you around soon!
The phone will be on T-Mobile in the UK. Hopefully!
First and last bump! I was wondering if installing LauncherPro would have any negative effects on the speed of the phone? It's dual core and has 1gb ram so i'm thinking the new launcher would not cause any lag but has anyone tried this and found out that it does indeed lag?
No not impossible, i would think it would be easier to brick with a locked bl.
Yes you can reflash, and no you won't get the "lower fw brick".
Yes you can use other launchers, always.
Thanks a lot mate.
To expand on the 1st answer, is it because with the locked BL, i can't install CWM so technically if i brick, it'll be harder if not impossible to fix it? So in a way, an unlocked BL is safer then, as long as i don't try to downgrade? That sounds kinda awesome!
Also, after the first flash, is it easier to flash another rom or is it the same process? I mean, is the 1st flash always the hardest and longest? Because i'm thinking that the 1st time flash would have me install a lot of things, and the next time i reflash, i can use the things i already installed the 1st time (such as CWM etc) to flash another rom can't i? I just want to be able to swap between a few different ROMS without having to risk a hard brick! Thanks for your answers btw, really appreciate it
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Thanks a lot mate.
To expand on the 1st answer, is it because with the locked BL, i can't install CWM so technically if i brick, it'll be harder if not impossible to fix it? So in a way, an unlocked BL is safer then, as long as i don't try to downgrade? That sounds kinda awesome!
Also, after the first flash, is it easier to flash another rom or is it the same process? I mean, is the 1st flash always the hardest and longest? Because i'm thinking that the 1st time flash would have me install a lot of things, and the next time i reflash, i can use the things i already installed the 1st time (such as CWM etc) to flash another rom can't i? I just want to be able to swap between a few different ROMS without having to risk a hard brick! Thanks for your answers btw, really appreciate it
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Thats right, the unlocked bootloader is the best way to go if you plan on flashing because of custom recovery.
Yes most likely its about the same process BUT, most if not all ROMs will have instructions on how to flash - make sure you read and follow them dont just "do what you did last time".
Prob the easiest way to swap between ROMs easily is to keep nandroid backups for them through cwm.
As far as it being easier to flash the next ROM because you can "keep things from the last flash".. NO you dont want to keep anything between flashing, meaning you should most likley always wipe data, cache & such unless otherwise specified (sometimes upgrading ROMs from one version to the next you can use a "no wipe" upgrade).
Thanks so much! Will install Nandroid asap when i get it! Also, i didn't mean "keep" things as in data and/or apps or cache or whatever, i meant like the 1st flashing would include installing CWM recovery, but the next time i reflash, i won't have to install that again, or would i? If not, then that's great!
Can't wait to try out Cyanogen Mod, theme it up, install some cool apps and just mess around with it! Bookmarked every section of the Atrix forum so i can easily read through it
Thank you for your time in helping a confused noob out I have read a lot of guides but without the phone in front of me, and me being completely new to this, it's not really sinking in. Once i get the phone physically in my hands, then i bet i'll learn a lot more!
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Thanks so much! Will install Nandroid asap when i get it! Also, i didn't mean "keep" things as in data and/or apps or cache or whatever, i meant like the 1st flashing would include installing CWM recovery, but the next time i reflash, i won't have to install that again, or would i? If not, then that's great!
Can't wait to try out Cyanogen Mod, theme it up, install some cool apps and just mess around with it! Bookmarked every section of the Atrix forum so i can easily read through it
Thank you for your time in helping a confused noob out I have read a lot of guides but without the phone in front of me, and me being completely new to this, it's not really sinking in. Once i get the phone physically in my hands, then i bet i'll learn a lot more!
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Nandroid backup is a backup through CWM, it is not a seperate app. As far as having to install CWM each time.. No you wont have to, the recovery stays but it should be updated when available, unless stated otherwise. Rom Manager will install the latest version of CWM for you. Doing a backup in CWM is known as a Nandroid backup.
Right, i get it now, i was confusing it with Titanium Backup but i've looked at vids about it and know what it does now. Isn't it risky to read/write from NAND a lot? Hmm
Also, if i Nand backed up my stock firmware (before i flash anything), can i restore from there and return to that stock backup anytime i want? If that's possible then i'm sorted!
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Right, i get it now, i was confusing it with Titanium Backup but i've looked at vids about it and know what it does now. Isn't it risky to read/write from NAND a lot? Hmm
Also, if i Nand backed up my stock firmware (before i flash anything), can i restore from there and return to that stock backup anytime i want? If that's possible then i'm sorted!
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I dont know of any risks to Nandroid backup, only benefits. I have returned to a Nandroid backup on my Captivate but not on the Atrix, i have created a Nandroid backup on (stock) Atrix and recommend do the same jic. I believe you can return to that stock back up (after flashing) if needed but first check out the section on fruitcakes, there is more info along these lines in that thread.
Reading the section now, makes little sense yet but i'm sure i'll understand. What they basically are are roms that don't touch the BL, so doesn't matter if its a lower firmware than the one i'm on because these fruitcakes don't look at the BL and will flash the firmware without bricking, whereas if i downgraded with a stock firmware or something, they touch the BL and will find out it's unlocked and on a newer firmware so the flashing ends up physically bricking the device. That's what i'm basically assuming. Also, read another thread where the OP said he recovered from a stock nandroid backup from a CM7 rom, which sounds a hell of a lot easier than downgrading carefully using special roms!
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Reading the section now, makes little sense yet but i'm sure i'll understand. What they basically are are roms that don't touch the BL, so doesn't matter if its a lower firmware than the one i'm on because these fruitcakes don't look at the BL and will flash the firmware without bricking, whereas if i downgraded with a stock firmware or something, they touch the BL and will find out it's unlocked and on a newer firmware so the flashing ends up physically bricking the device. That's what i'm basically assuming. Also, read another thread where the OP said he recovered from a stock nandroid backup from a CM7 rom, which sounds a hell of a lot easier than downgrading carefully using special roms!
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Dont worry it makes more and more sense as you learn and play with it. Your assumption of fruitcakes is my understanding as well. I agree that nandroid backup/restore seams a slightly easier method than fruitcakes, but thought I would include the fruitcake methods for you seeing as how you were concerned of a risk with nand, plus the more reading the better. Also NandBacks do take up a good amount of storage space, but are worth it jic. As long as you read you should be just fine, reading here on xda is the best thing you can do to keep from screwing something up. Good luck.
Thank you mate, i really appreciate your time! If i wasn't so ill, i'd be understanding more i think, but i have to look away every few seconds or else my eyes will explode haha, i guess i'm not getting the Galaxy S anymore, i hope i don't regret it! And with the method of hiding the unlocked bootloader, i'm hoping IF anything bad happens, then i still have a chance of tricking the tricksters who gave us these locked down phones in the first place! Android was supposed to be free and open I'm just glad at the thought of getting rid of my iPhone 3g + iTunes + Quicktime.
Also, in your opinion, is ADW EX better than Launcher Pro?
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Sorry again for initially posting this I the wrong forum!
Hey all!
I was thinking of rooting my eris, but after reading the forum some, I still have a couple questions about Eris rooting and rooting in general.
First off, if I use the one click root app, I will not have to install a new rom, correct? Also, how likely is it to brick my phone? If bricked, is there a method of restoring it?
Secondly, if I install the FroYo rom, would I be able to go back to the factory build of OTA 2.1? Or would I be stuck with custom roms then?
The only reason I am concerned with restoring the factory rom is that if something happens to the phone, I'd like my warranty to still be able to cover it (I'm 99% sure that they won't cover a rooted froyo thats overclocked).
Also, sorry if these have been asked before, I just wasn't able to find them on my own.
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First off, if I use the one click root app, I will not have to install a new rom, correct?
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It doesn't force you to do anything; it only installs a custom recovery - from which, anything is possible. One of the options is to overlay two different flashes - engtools3.zip and the "OC Kernel" - this gives you root capabilities and overclocking, but leaves you with exactly the same Apps and settings. Or, you can replace everything with a brand new ROM, after you have made a Nandroid backup.
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Also, how likely is it to brick my phone?
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There is about a 0.0000000001% chance it will brick your phone.
What the risks are after that depend on your ability to read and follow directions, but are generally pretty low.
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If bricked, is there a method of restoring it?
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A brick is defined as "unable to be restored by any means"; so, no, a brick can not be recovered. There are ways you could make the phone unbootable, but not "bricked". Those can generally be recovered from.
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Secondly, if I install the FroYo rom, would I be able to go back to the factory build of OTA 2.1? Or would I be stuck with custom roms then?
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If you make a Nandroid backup, you can go back to EXACTLY what you had before.
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I had pretty much the same questions the other day; I went ahead and installed one-click root, flashed rootme.zip, encountered no problems. Then I simply followed the directions in the sticky in the development subforum (can't remember the name) for flashing a custom rom.
It started off by saying to create a nandroid backup, and it's a darn good thing I did, since my first rom flash was a failure. Luckily I just restored from the backup and my phone was exactly the sane as it was before the custom rom install. Still rooted, and all apps, contacts, and settings were the same.
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Hey guys,
Was having too many issues with GNex so I traded in for a rezound but hate all the bloat on it. Decided I'd finally stick my neck out there and try my noob hand at rooting and customizing it.
So, got my rezound unlocked and rooted and before i try anything, how do I ensure I don't brick the phone?
Searched around for a real dumbed down guide to backup and recovery but I'm at a kindergarten level with this stuff. For example, it took me about 4 hours to figure out how to unlock and root the phone and HTC gives you directions on unlocking.
Have titanium backup, and rom manager. I read there's 2 ways to create a recovery file - cwm and amon-ra, read about nandroid backup but don't know what these things mean or how they function.
Can anyone give me a quick tutorial in backing up the phone in case I eff it up?
Any help would be much appreciated, I apologize if this is too basic a question.
Thanks
No apologies! You have to start somewhere so it's all good. I would start with these two very helpful threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1418653
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1418659
I would recommend using the Amon_Ra recovery from THIS post.
Since you are coming from a Gnex...is it safe to assume you know how to flash a custom recovery with the boot.img?
It's not safe to say I know how to do anything yet haha. I liked the non cluttered feel of the gnex so I didn't mess with it and I never did anything with my og Droid. Never flashed anything so I'm about as noob as they come. I unlocked and rooted this phone and that's my experience to this point. Again all help is good
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Thanks for the links btw. Slowly figuring this stuff out. Got amon ra recovery now... What does that do exactly? Just trying to ensure I can get back to where.I am in case I mess up my phone. Should I do a nandroid backup? Not sure what that means either but I see some threads about how to do it.
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biond said:
Thanks for the links btw. Slowly figuring this stuff out. Got amon ra recovery now... What does that do exactly? Just trying to ensure I can get back to where.I am in case I mess up my phone. Should I do a nandroid backup? Not sure what that means either but I see some threads about how to do it.
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A nandroid is an image of your phone in its current state. So yes, you should do a nandroid back up now before you flash a ROM so if something goes wrong you can restore it back to how it is now.
Then if you're going to flash a kernel after you flash a ROM you should probably make one before flashing the kernel as well in case something goes wrong.
Then when you have the phone the way you like it with a custom ROM/kernel you can make a nandroid at that point as well so you have that handy in case of anything going wrong somewhere down the line or if you just want to get back to that setup after trying out a different ROM. Then you just restore that instead of having to flash the other ROM/kernel again. If you want you can make nandroids of all your custom ROM configurations so you can switch them whenever you want. Of course you should keep an eye out in the threads of the ROMs in case of updates, and sometimes you need to wipe and flash the new version if there is an update.
Here's a few links with some good info:
Beginner's Guide to Rooting Android Devices
Quick INTRO TO ROOTING for those new to rooting
[HOW-TO] ADB for Dummies(How-To Learner's Guide)
If you've never flashed anything before and are planning on customizing this thing; welcome to the family of rezound.
welcome! The ReZound in my opinion is a great phone.
Alright, got myself some good information from you all. Nandroid backup done and saved on my PC so now I'm good to ROM? Eager to rid myself of the enormous amount of bloat the rezound comes with.
One more thing to add for you to know about your original backup, or subsequent ones- that wasn't brought up here.. (smarter folks shoot this down if I'm wrong).. Someone stated above that once you have your nandroid you're always ready to go back to that original backup with a simple flash. This is not the case if he's gone to another rom that uses a different kernel right? It seems some devs have found ways to work the kernel install into the rom install/flash, and others haven't.. Until there's a standard- there's never a guarantee that restoring that original nandroid will bring you back to your original kernel correct? You may have to d/l and install the boot.img after the restore.
That's part of my issue now. I keep ready about flashing roms and kernels but they all assume some level of proficiency when it's something I've never tried. I'm thinking of starting with clean Rom 1.5 but I want to keep some apps like nfl. I just can't find the bare bones explanation of what to do with the file and how to get my data back after i flash that Rom (a process I am foreign to). I download the zip to my PC.... Then what?
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You may also want to get the stock rooted kernel, and keep it with the nandroid. If, and when you want to restore, place your nandroid, and kernel on your sd card. Boot into Amon ra, and restore, then flash the kernel in fastboot. Not the best description, but I hope that helps....
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I'm running ineffabalis with their stock rooted kernel right now mainly because I want to wait until the kernel update process is a little more streamlined and the kernels themselves are a little more ironed out. That said, the complete newb sticky guide over in the dev section has a process that seems easy enough.. Basically involves a simple fastboot command from dos. It's written for ziggys but should translate to other kernels as well.
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My phone is quote slow and laggy and it's quite surprising seeing as this phone is meant to be known for it's speed and power.
I have rooted with cf-root , I don't really know if this means if I have a custom kernel.
All I want to know is if there is a custom ROM or kernel to help with this. If yes, which one. Many developers claim there stuff speeds up phones but obviously they're bias. I want neutral opinions from people with experience of different things.
Before people tell me to search I can only access the net through my phone and the drop down search button don't work.
First of all rooting your phone is good cos it now means that you can flash a custom ROM.Something that cant be done on stock.For the moment stay with CF-Root as they are basically stock rooted kernels and at the moment I dont think you need to get into overclocking and undervolting and all that stuff that more advanced kernels can do cos if you do it wrong yourve got problems.As for ROMs your right.All Devs will say that they have the best one and all happy users,yes like myself,will say they use the best one too.The problem is that everyone has different likes and needs.No one who has spent time on this site has ever only had ONE ROM on their phone.Its impossible to not turn into a flashaholic at some stage.The best you can do is read threads and try some.Not the answer you wanted but its the best and only way to find what you want.Try mine.I love it.The link is below the big blue Omega sign.Its the one that says "GB".If you dont like it then try something else.Theres really no other way to find out what you want unless you try for yourself.
I see.. So I simply download the custom ROM and install it through clockwork mod?
Do I have to back up my phone with titanium back up before I install custom roms?
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I see.. So I simply download the custom ROM and install it through clockwork mod?
Do I have to back up my phone with titanium back up before I install custom roms?
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Step 1 - backup with titanium.
Step 2 - reboot into cwm or with the cwm app, create a backup. So, if you flash something that you don't like or if it wont boot, you can restore it. This is a complete system and data backup. A 1:1 copy of your phone setup, excluding modem which defaults to whatever you are running at the time of restore.
Step 3 - try some custom roms. I use Checkrom (older version - v2) and phone flies.
Anyway, something must be wrong with your setup because every rom I've used has been fast, even stock.
ps : sent you a pm.
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Once you get sorted then do an EFS backup.The EFS folder contains your IMEI number and if for whatever reason you should loose it or it becomes corrupt then you are in the poo.Download the "release.zip" and follow the easy instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308546
I was using checkrom v4 and then v6 for a little while both with SiyahKernel which worked really well.
Currently using CM9 but I wouldn't go there until your comfortable fixing things and regularly flashing.
But definately select your rom and then try changing kernels if you think it will benefit you.
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@cooza when should I back up this eps, everyone time I change ROM or everyone I change kernel? I don't even know what it is lol
@sxi200 you say there must be something wrong with my setup, could you explain in a little more detail what you think I should change please?
Just thought I would *Bump* the thread as i'm slightly desperate for the random rebooting. It happens approximately once or twice a day.
did u use wipe data/factory reset while installing a new rom?
expierienced some funny things like lag etc also while trying different roms,
my fault was not wiping the cache ...
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Just thought I would *Bump* the thread as i'm slightly desperate for the random rebooting. It happens approximately once or twice a day.
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One Factory reset the phone this will wipe all data
Two upgrade firmware via Kies if firmware is available .
Three flash a later stock Samsung rom .
Four any of the answers already posted .
Five wait for Samsungs ICS update .
i see you have rooted but dont know what root is for or even any of the basics .
Read the guides and stickies .
Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282
Its possible that you have rooted with a wrong file .
But you give zero information .
jje
Okay, before any of the regular contributors here say something nasty to me for asking a question that's been asked and answered, I want you to know that I have spent 2 days reading through -all- xda forums that might even -remotely- relate to my problem, without finding any answers. I also spent several hours searching all the common Android forums elsewhere, as well as, silly sites like Yahoo answers, etc., but have not been able to find the answer to my question. I'm the first to admit that reading the exorbitant amount of information in here causes my brain to short circuit due to all the numbers, versions, etc. It's like reading tax code; use C1.4.6 unless you've submitted b45.1. In that case, use d16.9, unless you've also filed a p32 in the last 2 years...if so, then....blah blah blah.
I love all you cell phone OS gurus and am quite envious of your ability to effortlessly wade through the technology involved in these phones. I wish, wholeheartedly, that I didn't have to ask any questions here because I know how irritated many of you become over people like me asking stupid questions, but I have no where else to turn. Believe me, if I could go elsewhere, I would, for your sake.
I was running 2.3.4, rooted, stock ROM. Froze the system with TB Pro to prevent the upgrade to 2.3.6. Unfroze it. Upgraded. Decided to unroot so I could sell my phone in favor of another. Ran Odin. Ran SuperOneClick. Ahhh...and there's the problem. SOC doesn't work with 2.3.6. So now, I don't know what to do. My phone is half rooted. I can't unroot and I can't reroot. I get the triangle, but TB Pro doesn't work because I'm not rooted, well. sort of not rooted. I guess I'm a little rooted. I don't know what to do next mainly because, every time I find what I think is a solution, I find another source that says, "DON'T DO IT! YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PHONE!" So, here I am, hoping someone will point me in the right direction without chastising me for asking a stupid question. I checked the solution in here and it's great, except, and I quote "Not working for KK6 2.3.6"
Thanks for any help....
So, what you need to do at this point is flash back to stock 2.3.4 using the instructions in the How to prepare your phone ... thread which is a sticky in the general section of this I777 forum. Since you were stock before, and evidently didn't flash any custom firmware, you should be fine flashing the stock distribution with Odin or Heimdall, or using the Odin one-click downloader.
First enter 3e recovery and perform a wipe data/factory reset, then do the Odin or Heimdall flash. The thread has instructions to clear your personal data as well.
Now, you know, I read that post along with all the stickies, about how to return the phone to stock, but I couldn't find any mention of whether or not it worked with a half rooted phone. I didn't want to be one of those people who blindly followed directions not intended for her situation, only to wind up bricking my phone or in a constant boot loop.
Thank you for not criticizing me for my apparent stupidity. I do my best.
Thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction.
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Now, you know, I read that post along with all the stickies, about how to return the phone to stock, but I couldn't find any mention of whether or not it worked with a half rooted phone. I didn't want to be one of those people who blindly followed directions not intended for her situation, only to wind up bricking my phone or in a constant boot loop.
Thank you for not criticizing me for my apparent stupidity. I do my best.
Thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction.
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You can't have a "half rooted" phone, and it wouldn't matter at all anyway since you're going to be booting into download mode in order to flash to stock.
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First of all:
Understand what 'ROOT' is.
IT IS ADMINISTRATOR ACCESS TO YOUR DEVICE, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
everything for 'root' resides in the OS under the /system partition...which means when you load a new/stock rom on it, everything in /system gets wiped...
root has nothing to do with recovery mode or download mode. you cant be 'half-rooted'. you either have administrator access or you dont, plain and simple.
When I rooted so very long ago, I used SGH-I777_ClockworkMod-Recovery_5.0.2.3 that I downloaded with su-3.0-efgh-signed. At the time, I didn't understand what this was. I only understood that this would root my phone. I didn't want to flash any custom ROM's because, to this day, I really don't understand what a ROM is. Yes, I've read about it. Still don't get it. So, did I flash a custom ROM? As far as I knew, all I did was root so I could use TBPro to backup and freeze, and use LBE to keep my information as private as possible.
<edit> So I've just reread many of your posts. You really are great at explaining this stuff and I thank you for that. It seems, from what I've read, that I can just do a factory reset and the phone should go back to its original state, with 2.3.4. Is that correct?
Thank you, again. I swear I'll be out of everyone's hair in here as soon as is humanly possible.
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So, what you need to do at this point is flash back to stock 2.3.4 using the instructions in the How to prepare your phone ... thread which is a sticky in the general section of this I777 forum. Since you were stock before, and evidently didn't flash any custom firmware, you should be fine flashing the stock distribution with Odin or Heimdall, or using the Odin one-click downloader.
First enter 3e recovery and perform a wipe data/factory reset, then do the Odin or Heimdall flash. The thread has instructions to clear your personal data as well.
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Pirateghost said:
First of all:
Understand what 'ROOT' is.
IT IS ADMINISTRATOR ACCESS TO YOUR DEVICE, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
everything for 'root' resides in the OS under the /system partition...which means when you load a new/stock rom on it, everything in /system gets wiped...
root has nothing to do with recovery mode or download mode. you cant be 'half-rooted'. you either have administrator access or you dont, plain and simple.
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Thank yes, I understood what root was which is why I did it. I just didn't understand the mechanics of getting there. Perhaps it's the same thing that made pre-med chemistry so difficult for me in college. I could do the work, but didn't get the big picture, so I couldn't build a knowledge base. Anyway, I see the triangle and GT I9100 at boot up, yet I cannot access TB Pro as it states I'm not rooted. So, I guess I did unroot, but didn't go all the way because 2.3.6 doesn't play nice with popular root/unroot apps. Thanks for explaining.
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Thank yes, I understood what root was which is why I did it. I just didn't understand the mechanics of getting there. Perhaps it's the same thing that made pre-med chemistry so difficult for me in college. I could do the work, but didn't get the big picture, so I couldn't build a knowledge base. Anyway, I see the triangle and GT I9100 at boot up, yet I cannot access TB Pro as it states I'm not rooted. So, I guess I did unroot, but didn't go all the way because 2.3.6 doesn't play nice with popular root/unroot apps. Thanks for explaining.
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The triangle has nothing to do with root. It only means you flashed a kernel using Odin.
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tunie said:
It seems, from what I've read, that I can just do a factory reset and the phone should go back to its original state, with 2.3.4. Is that correct?
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No. When you do a wipe data/factory reset, this wipes the data partition but does not touch the system partition. So you will still have whatever firmware you started with, which in your case I believe is 2.3.6, but it will be put back to like it was when it was first installed.
That's why I recommended that you perform a wipe data/factory reset, and then flash the 2.3.4 stock firmware. The factory reset is so that when the new 2.3.4 stock firmware boots up, there will be no problems.
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The triangle has nothing to do with root. It only means you flashed a kernel using Odin.
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Well thank you. I give up. Really, I do.
creepyncrawly said:
No. When you do a wipe data/factory reset, this wipes the data partition but does not touch the system partition. So you will still have whatever firmware you started with, which in your case I believe is 2.3.6, but it will be put back to like it was when it was first installed.
That's why I recommended that you perform a wipe data/factory reset, and then flash the 2.3.4 stock firmware. The factory reset is so that when the new 2.3.4 stock firmware boots up, there will be no problems.
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Well, I actually understand that. Thank you. My concern now is whether or not I flashed a custom ROM. Clockworkmod appears to be a custom ROM, no? If it isn't, I know what to do, thanks to you. If it is a custom ROM, I don't know what to do next.
tunie said:
Well, I actually understand that. Thank you. My concern now is whether or not I flashed a custom ROM. Clockworkmod appears to be a custom ROM, no? If it isn't, I know what to do, thanks to you. If it is a custom ROM, I don't know what to do next.
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clockwork mod is NOT a custom ROM. clockwork mod is RECOVERY and on this device it is compiled WITH the kernel.
YOU HAVE A CUSTOM/MODIFIED KERNEL
I really dont understand why you dont just follow creepyncrawly's advice and tutorials...you are making this out WAAAAAY harder than it really is.
Pirateghost said:
clockwork mod is NOT a custom ROM. clockwork mod is RECOVERY and on this device it is compiled WITH the kernel.
YOU HAVE A CUSTOM/MODIFIED KERNEL
I really dont understand why you dont just follow creepyncrawly's advice and tutorials...you are making this out WAAAAAY harder than it really is.
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Just want to insure that I've relayed all the necessary information, correctly. I guess I have. Thank you and I'm sorry I took anyone's time.
tunie said:
Well thank you. I give up. Really, I do.
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That dreaded yellow triangle show up when you flash a custom (non-stock) kernel. When you flash a stock kernel, it will go away. So... if you flash back to stock like I suggested, it will go away.
Pm me if you need more assistance
creepyncrawly said:
So, what you need to do at this point is flash back to stock 2.3.4 using the instructions in the How to prepare your phone ... thread which is a sticky in the general section of this I777 forum. Since you were stock before, and evidently didn't flash any custom firmware, you should be fine flashing the stock distribution with Odin or Heimdall, or using the Odin one-click downloader.
First enter 3e recovery and perform a wipe data/factory reset, then do the Odin or Heimdall flash. The thread has instructions to clear your personal data as well.
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Thank you. It worked like a charm. Back to stock. Wonderful. Thank you so much. It wasn't as much a nail-biter as I thought it would be.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here & ask a question that's been on my mind for a while, so bear with me. But first, let me give you some background so there's no confusion & no unnecessary questions asked. I'm by no means a "pro" at modifying my Note 3, I just follow instructions carefully & then implement those directions to achieve results. That's how I rooted my Note 3 but could still care less that I tripped Knox in the end.
I have the 32 GB Sprint Galaxy Note 3 with an 8 GB microSD. It's rooted using Chainfire's method. I also have TWRP for a recovery, but I'm using the stock Sprint ROM that came with it. I have a few root apps installed (Titanium backup, AdAway & Root Explorer) but the rest are what Sprint (& Android) put in there, minus a few that are totally unnecessary for me...(chat apps, picture drawings, step counting & so on) that were removed with Titanuim. It's still on 4.3 Jellybean with PUBMJ4 baseband. I also have the Wi-Fi hotspot fixed through 2 file replacements using Root Explorer.
Now that you know what I have, onto the question...
I see many, many ROMs in other threads that I'd like to try out, but don't know how to go about doing this. Before you jump right in & answer, here's my problem. If I try a ROM but don't like it, or it doesn't suit my needs, how can I go about going back to what I have now in the best (& fewest) steps necessary? In other words, to go back to exactly what ROM I have now, the apps installed, baseband, the whole nine yards. Just like a computer backup, it's a bit-for-bit restore, completely mirroring the hard drive. Understand?
Maybe you could explain to me like I'm seven years old what apps I need, what procedures are taken, the order in which they happen & so on. If I need an app or two to do just this, I have approximately $20 Google Play credit left.
Can a DEV or an experienced person that's done just this help a fellow out? Don't get me wrong, the stock ROM I'm using works for me, but there's ROMs posted that look just awesome! It's all about "personalization", am I right?
Easy, since you have a custom recovery installed (twrp) , you simply do a "nandroid" backup (I personally like to backup to an external SD card, so get a bigger one) before wiping and installing something new. If you like what you got, fine. If you want to go back, wipe and restore! Easy Peasy!
Sorry, being a father means sometimes your time suddenly becomes unavailable. But believe me, it's really easy once you figure out twrp.
I'll let another fine member get more details if you actually need them. ?
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So did you figure it all out?
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kingdazy said:
Easy, since you have a custom recovery installed (twrp) , you simply do a "nandroid" backup (I personally like to backup to an external SD card, so get a bigger one) before wiping and installing something new. If you like what you got, fine. If you want to go back, wipe and restore! Easy Peasy!
Sorry, being a father means sometimes your time suddenly becomes unavailable. But believe me, it's really easy once you figure out twrp.
I'll let another fine member get more details if you actually need them. ?
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Doing a Nandroid backup as we speak! I didn't realize TWRP could do that. (duh! ) I only installed TWRP because I just liked the name of it. TWERP!! (gotta nice sound to it, doesn't it??) Thanks a bunch! :good:
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So did you figure it all out?
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I did. I found a Youtube link on how to do a TWRP backup on the Sprint Note 3. Easy Peasy as said above! I'll try some ROMs this weekend (can't promise nuthin' cause it's gonna be 70 degrees this weekend & I'm itchin' to ride my mountainbike along the boardwalk at the Virginia Beach.)
But now that the hard part is outta the way, it's all easy street from here!
Just be sure to Please, oh god Please, read all instructions on any rom you decide to try. Doesn't hurt to read the last 10 pages of each too, get an idea of Current issues that may not be documented in the OP.
And don't get lazy, follow word for word. The only times I f*cked stuff up was when I didn't follow instructions (ie, thought my experience meant I knew best), or just got sloppy.
And, don't forget to wipe! (I wipe 3X, everytime, as a habit. Some people will give you reasons why that's unnecessary, but I can say confidently, if perhaps anecdotally, that I Never have the issues others have with bad flashes, softbricks, FCs, etc.)
Something to get comfortable with, even though you may never need it is ODIN. It's most common use is a utility for flashing stock ROMs and firmwares, great for recovery from bad things. Again, you may never need it, but have it ready in your Pc with a stock ROM file, just in case.
Finally, Titantium Backup can be your best friend, if used properly. It can also be a real pain, so don't become too dependant on it.
FIN
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kingdazy said:
Just be sure to Please, oh god Please, read all instructions on any rom you decide to try. Doesn't hurt to read the last 10 pages of each too, get an idea of Current issues that may not be documented in the OP.
And don't get lazy, follow word for word. The only times I f*cked stuff up was when I didn't follow instructions (ie, thought my experience meant I knew best), or just got sloppy.
And, don't forget to wipe! (I wipe 3X, everytime, as a habit. Some people will give you reasons why that's unnecessary, but I can say confidently, if perhaps anecdotally, that I Never have the issues others have with bad flashes, softbricks, FCs, etc.)
Something to get comfortable with, even though you may never need it is ODIN. It's most common use is a utility for flashing stock ROMs and firmwares, great for recovery from bad things. Again, you may never need it, but have it ready in your Pc with a stock ROM file, just in case.
Finally, Titantium Backup can be your best friend, if used properly. It can also be a real pain, so don't become too dependant on it.
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No worries! As I said in the OP, I follow directions carefully. I read everything.
Odin is my friend as well. I have it installed on my laptop. That's how I flashed basebands & deodexed stock rooted ROMs on my Galaxy S III. I also have the original stock Sprint ROM for this GN3 "just in case", in a folder sitting on my desktop with a few extra tools. I've never bricked a phone, unless you count using Samsung's online update (can't think of the name at the moment). It said 4.3 was available, so I downloaded it. It flashed, rebooted, but stuck there. Never finished the boot, just gave me an error code. Samsung's own update killed my GS3 & was unrecoverable. Believe me, I tried everything. What was strange, was the ROM was 4.3 but the baseband was the previous version, not the newer one, so the phone just puked. It never updated the baseband so it bricked. Now, I tried (and used) different radios with no problems before the update. Everything worked in harmony. Go figure!
Time for sleep my friend. Gotta work in the morning!