Good morning!
Over the last week, the battery life on my JASJAM has become totally miserable. I'm just barely getting over the 12-hour mark most days, and this is with very little use, mostly just receiving emails on my desk while I'm sitting at work. The only programs running are ActiveSync and Outlook, as I use Microsoft Direct-Push with my company's Exchange server. I am always connected to 3G in New York City.
Now, this might be due to the usual crappy Cingular 3G issues in New York City. Before this ROM upgrade, in some parts of the city, my phone would constantly turn on as the network was creating some wacky reactions with the phone. Since going to the Cingular-inspired radio ROM, the screen stays off but I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes.
Anyway, do you think my battery problems are ROM related, network related or something else? BTW, I've tried two different batteries and they've both had similar run-down characteristics.
Thanks!
Mine was last loaded 3 days ago and has more than 60% left.
But i've used the phone just some times and only 4 or 45 phone calls.
And NO UMTS!
Greetz
sphings
This is a problem that I have talked about before on other forums. Using 3G on the tytn will shorten your battery life about half compared to using edge. I dont use my tytn for much (a few calls, msn for chatting and email and some browsing) and I can't get more than 10 hours on a charge. When I change it to edge I can get over 24 hours.
Hollywood...
Believe me, I feel your pain. I'm using an extended 1500mah battery right now (which doesn't quite fit perfectly but close enough) and I think it should be good for about 17 hours according to the current calculation with UMTS always connected. That's enough to get me through 1 day, but it's pushing it. Do you think the next HTC rom might show improvements in battery life?
Thanks
hey CNJYC, slightly OT but did you get the Seidio battery or the one from Lionbattery.com?
Sleuth255...
I have the Mugen 1500mah version from Lionbattery.com. It is every so slightly thick which causes the battery cover to bow out maybe a millimeter or two in the middle, really not much at all. I will not go with anything larger that requires a new battery cover, as this defeats the purpose of such a nice, small device. Instead, I carry a spare or two when I'm traveling. Do you know anything about the Seidio battery?
Yeah, it has the same problem. I have a Seidio. I was wondering if the Lion battery fit a bit better.
Got it...thanks
@CJNYC and Sleuth255,
Compare to standard battery, how much more (hours or minutes) do you get from the extended battery?
Maybe 2 hours on 3G
After ur post and continious using of 1.16 radio on mu HTC TyTN for a week now i also feeling that the radio seems drain battry fast....the situation is that i generelly receive/made 10-15 call a day of total 1 hour or so duration....30-40 min of game play and may be more less 10-20 min of chatting and browsing in my tytn and i can get upto 2 days easily with 20-30 % of battry life left in gsm 900 mode ooo and always pushmail activated and of avarage 8-10 e-mail receiving and sending...
but after 1.16 radio i thnk i can go upto 1.5 days with same battry left and the senerio is the same regerding my usage pattern....and most of all before that the battry used to discharged 10% overnight at maximum when i was sleeping with 2-3 mail receiving through pushmail and of course no other use...but now it seems im loosing 20% on same time period...
i think i need to do some more testing regarding this battry life probs...any other feedback is really wanted...
thanks
Sajib...
Thanks for your posting. The 25% reduction since going to the 1.16 ROM that you reported is basically exactly the reduction I'm seeing here on 3G in NYC. Everything else about the ROM is better, especially how it handles weak signals and not forcing the screen on, but if I can't get a full day out of it I will probably downgrade. I'm just holding out for a new HTC ROM, but I'm not sure I can wait any longer.
Any other experiences with the 1.16 Radio ROM?
Thanks!
I have some problem... Dunno is because of 1.16 Radio ROM or my application. But i did Hard Reset & Install bk the Application that i use previously. The problem still same...
Let say i didn't touch my phone (Button) for about 30min and more. The phone will like go to Searching Mode.....wat i did is turn to FLIGHT MODE, then OFF the FLIGHT MODE. Then the phone only will get the service provider. After that it's ok. ...
Anyone encouter this problem b4?
I just went on a trip and about 2 or so hours into the trip my cell phone went dead even though it was plugged in. I was using my GPS. I recharged my phone and tried again and I could see the battery was draining even though it was plugged in.
Is there a fix for this problem? I'm was using Sprint ROM, but switched to Might Mikes, but still have the same problem.
what ends up happening with the pda devices is that it looks to the battery for energy only. even if it's plugged in if you drain the battery faster than it can charge then it will go dead. i don't know if there is even a different rom that can cercumvent that, but that would be the only way to fix it.
...or if you could find a gps program that uses less energy. that should work too.
I tried again using the GPS, but this time I had a DC to AC converter and plugged in my phone. Although I didn't run the GPS that long, maybe a half hour or so, the phone battery didn't loose any noticeable charge. It was fully charged when I stopped the GPS.
I'm also looking to replace my battery with a higher capacity battery. Can anyone make a recommendation? I don't want a larger battery as far as size, but one that has more capacity. Let me know if there is a battery on the market that will meet my requirements.
Touch Pro has a safety feature to stop charging when the temperature sensor goes past a certain point. It is much more likely to reach that point when you are running GPS and in car with the sun beating down.
Workaround for that is to turn on the AC.
I had the same issue this May when driving through GA while on vacation.
The phone does stop the charging process when it feels it is too hot but will continue to operate thus discharging the battery quickly but never letting you get a charge in.
My solution was to buy a mount for the phone that clipped onto the AC vent and let cool air run on it the entire time and that solved the problem.
Hope that helps.
Yes, anytime I run the GPS the phone does get warm. However, I do have a vent mount holder for the phone with AC blowing right on the back of it. That doesn't resolve my problem.
I'm interested in a very high capacity battery if anyone can personally recommend one.
Have only had my sprint pro for 2 weeks and concur the battery life is bad. I find heating problems during lots of tasks and sometimes doing seemingly nothing(in sleep mode). I found that my gps was draining the battery even when not in use. I installed a cab to toggle it and that has helped alot. My data is set to go off automatically after a short time also. I'm trying every tweak I can think of and googling for more.
The oem batt was 1340mAh, My old gsm pro had an extended 1500mAh which I tried , with little improvement. I'm currently running a 2000mAh extended with the enlarged door and this helps but lots of juice is still draining away. On a positive note, the warmness seems to be mostly gone. My goal is to be able to go a full day with moderate usage. Today may be the day. I think I saw a 3000mAh as well, maybe at seidio. I was going to return the pro and get another one, but it sounds like they are all the same issue. An awesome phone, a real shame this is a problem. I think data off and gps off will help me alot. My $.02
Can you share the GPS toggle off and on program?
jviola said:
Can you share the GPS toggle off and on program?
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Give this a try.
I installed the program and I see the GPStoggle.dll under windows, but I don't see anyway to run the program? How do I enable and disable it?
I was I just wondering has anyone used their note for a long distance drive. the reason I ask is because using my stock charger or Any one as a matter a fact my Battery still drains even while.plugged.in.and pretty fast maybe 1 percent every 6 minutes if not Sooner.just wanted to know if anyone has the same problem?
Galaxy note LTE
Go ahead and get yourself one of these babies, and you're set
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi...Q9CA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339221289&sr=8-1
Long story short, it's shorted so that the Note receives more power. Someone can explain it to you in a more verbose fashion, but rest assured, my Gnote still charges slowly up, even when running google maps, music, and screen brightness on high.
demonchild1786 said:
I was I just wondering has anyone used their note for a long distance drive. the reason I ask is because using my stock charger or Any one as a matter a fact my Battery still drains even while.plugged.in.and pretty fast maybe 1 percent every 6 minutes if not Sooner.just wanted to know if anyone has the same problem?
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I use my note for 2-3 hours drives each week, and here's the key....if you're comfortable with your GPS app like I am, its a breeze, and an awesome solution. But there are a few key things. 4g is a battery drain enough on its own. Add that to the fact that you'll be driving through multiple cell zones, often with 3 or more cell sites in each one, and the note will he speaking to all of them. That alone will eat your battery like Michael Jackson ate children (all celebs are cannibals...ya know?), so there are two options for the battery issue.
Option one: Turn off mobile data completely, and use one of the many offline mobile GPS apps out there...start your route with mobile data on to pull down traffic data, and to route you around traffic jams, construction, or accidents...I use Navigon, and its the only app I've seen that can do all of this seamlessly. For other reasons too, Navigon is the best. It shows the speed limit, and warns you about red light cameras, or gives you audio warnings if you're going a certain preset amount over the speed limit. Also, when your driving on the toll way looking for an exit, it displays a HUD like visual representation on which lanes are okay to be in. Instead of just saying "stay right" it'll show you a picture of the toll way with 4 lanes...and 3 of them might have arrows in them, while the other has an x-mark in it. There are multiple voices and a dons, and once you download the maps, you're finished. In just 1.8 gigs, I can have a complete map of the whole contiguous United States and Canada.
This is the best software option for me. I've tried solutions that are free, and even for iOS, the graphics and design is better with navigon than Tom Tom or Copilot. Its well worth the 40 dollars, but you can often buy a region....say, the Midwest, the east coast, or the west coast for cheaper. Or you can wait for it to go on sale, and grab a North America or USA & Canada, or USA and Mexico Combo for 20 dollars. Whenever I've looked, its been on sale about fifty percent of the time.
Next, the battery options, you can do what I do, and use a travel battery pack that will charge a second battery without the phone having to be plugged in, and without the awkward cable setup that comes with mounting a plugged in phone, or keeping one on your lap.
Since our phones charge extremely slow from a car/cigarette port while using them, I find this to be the best option for staying juiced.
Secondly, its possibly to keep your battery at a certain level, or even charge it at a slow rate if you use good practices: know your route in general, and get familiar with the general outline of your route. After about an hour of using the app, you'll become confident in the solution enough to work on audio instruction alone. Use a headset--a wired one preferably...Bluetooth sucks in every way possible...its short range, it eats batteries like al roker ate funnel cakes, and it is terribly unstable and difficult to use, even for the jedi-minds here. Its improved somewhat over the years...but the goal here is to use a reasonable amount of power. Download your podcasts or music over wifi before you leave, and save power by only using the screen when you need to.
With a headset, my podcasts going, and my phone in 2g mode, I've found that my phone actually charges with the screen on its lowest setting (seeing any screen in the daylight is almost impossible for any device, no matter how powerful, or premium, or expensive it is, but using g it like this at night isn't an issue), and the audio is playing through the onboard speaker, or I'm playing music through the device via headset. I can sometimes even stream audio and use the speaker....though its not really loud enough to hear over almost any car going 55 MPH.
Make sure your car charger is rated for 1.0 amps, or 1000miliamps..at least. I don't know if the note can pull more or not...but even in the worst case scenario, if you had the travel battery pack (which, for thirty dollars gets you a wall charger, an additional stock OEM battery (none of the voodoo-magic extended battery crap that actually gives you worse battery life, under or over powers your phone, or only lasts 100 charging cycles), and a external battery case which will fit into any pocket you have (unless you wear skinny jeans....ew.), and will charge any note battery)) if you're phone died and you forgot to place your extra battery on the charger, in about 20 minute or so, you'd Be powered back up with enough juice to get you going again. After you placed your battery in the charger and plugged it in.
Lastly, you could get a power inverter from amazon or best buy (I would never buy some cheap Chinese version from amazon. I'd buy a brand name one from walmart or radio shack or even best buy) and you'd be able to charge your device at home/wall speeds.
Just using a few tricks, you'll never need to replace or run out of battery, and its likely you'll never even use a percent. But doing dome things with any phone will ensure you either don't make it to your destination, or that when you do arrive, you do so at 1-2%, of even worse....0%.
I think the Note charger travel pack is the best thing since sliced bread. I don't ever plug my phone in anymore. I bring the battery pack with me, and use a collapsing wall plug with a retractable micriusb cable to plug the pack in and charge my second battery...this means I can just plug my extra battery pack in at Barnes and nobles, my friends, etc...while still using my phone. I can even plug the pack into a computer and walk away. Which is great for long days at work, and means I can use my note 24/7 and never ever have to worry about battery life.
Sorry for the walk of text...and my goofy disposition. Its late and I'm so tired that I'm slap happy. But, to summarize, every device has it's shortcomings, but by spending only thirty dollars...I found away around the only real problem with the device--battery life.
The device is amazing in every way now.
I stopped using my $1300 laptop when I got my TF101 a year ago, and I stopped using my tablet for anything but reading and one fishing game since I got my phone.
AMAZINN!
Yeah I've noticed that my note charges indefinitely with that charger. My mom has one in her car and I thought I was crazy at first thinking that it charged my phone faster than stock.but I noticed that using that charger in her car no matter what I did using GPS and on lte the phone would still charge.when I turn my phone off and let it sit it's like magic.my phone charges really quickly.are there any threads that can explain more in dept why this happens with this charger?
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Jamesyboy said:
I use my note for 2-3 hours drives each week, and here's the key....if you're comfortable with your GPS app like I am, its a breeze, and an awesome solution. But there are a few key things. 4g is a battery drain enough on its own. Add that to the fact that you'll be driving through multiple cell zones, often with 3 or more cell sites in each one, and the note will he speaking to all of them. That alone will eat your battery like Michael Jackson ate children (all celebs are cannibals...ya know?), so there are two options for the battery issue.
Option one: Turn off mobile data completely, and use one of the many offline mobile GPS apps out there...start your route with mobile data on to pull down traffic data, and to route you around traffic jams, construction, or accidents...I use Navigon, and its the only app I've seen that can do all of this seamlessly. For other reasons too, Navigon is the best. It shows the speed limit, and warns you about red light cameras, or gives you audio warnings if you're going a certain preset amount over the speed limit. Also, when your driving on the toll way looking for an exit, it displays a HUD like visual representation on which lanes are okay to be in. Instead of just saying "stay right" it'll show you a picture of the toll way with 4 lanes...and 3 of them might have arrows in them, while the other has an x-mark in it. There are multiple voices and a dons, and once you download the maps, you're finished. In just 1.8 gigs, I can have a complete map of the whole contiguous United States and Canada.
This is the best software option for me. I've tried solutions that are free, and even for iOS, the graphics and design is better with navigon than Tom Tom or Copilot. Its well worth the 40 dollars, but you can often buy a region....say, the Midwest, the east coast, or the west coast for cheaper. Or you can wait for it to go on sale, and grab a North America or USA & Canada, or USA and Mexico Combo for 20 dollars. Whenever I've looked, its been on sale about fifty percent of the time.
Next, the battery options, you can do what I do, and use a travel battery pack that will charge a second battery without the phone having to be plugged in, and without the awkward cable setup that comes with mounting a plugged in phone, or keeping one on your lap.
Since our phones charge extremely slow from a car/cigarette port while using them, I find this to be the best option for staying juiced.
Secondly, its possibly to keep your battery at a certain level, or even charge it at a slow rate if you use good practices: know your route in general, and get familiar with the general outline of your route. After about an hour of using the app, you'll become confident in the solution enough to work on audio instruction alone. Use a headset--a wired one preferably...Bluetooth sucks in every way possible...its short range, it eats batteries like al roker ate funnel cakes, and it is terribly unstable and difficult to use, even for the jedi-minds here. Its improved somewhat over the years...but the goal here is to use a reasonable amount of power. Download your podcasts or music over wifi before you leave, and save power by only using the screen when you need to.
With a headset, my podcasts going, and my phone in 2g mode, I've found that my phone actually charges with the screen on its lowest setting (seeing any screen in the daylight is almost impossible for any device, no matter how powerful, or premium, or expensive it is, but using g it like this at night isn't an issue), and the audio is playing through the onboard speaker, or I'm playing music through the device via headset. I can sometimes even stream audio and use the speaker....though its not really loud enough to hear over almost any car going 55 MPH.
Make sure your car charger is rated for 1.0 amps, or 1000miliamps..at least. I don't know if the note can pull more or not...but even in the worst case scenario, if you had the travel battery pack (which, for thirty dollars gets you a wall charger, an additional stock OEM battery (none of the voodoo-magic extended battery crap that actually gives you worse battery life, under or over powers your phone, or only lasts 100 charging cycles), and a external battery case which will fit into any pocket you have (unless you wear skinny jeans....ew.), and will charge any note battery)) if you're phone died and you forgot to place your extra battery on the charger, in about 20 minute or so, you'd Be powered back up with enough juice to get you going again. After you placed your battery in the charger and plugged it in.
Lastly, you could get a power inverter from amazon or best buy (I would never buy some cheap Chinese version from amazon. I'd buy a brand name one from walmart or radio shack or even best buy) and you'd be able to charge your device at home/wall speeds.
Just using a few tricks, you'll never need to replace or run out of battery, and its likely you'll never even use a percent. But doing dome things with any phone will ensure you either don't make it to your destination, or that when you do arrive, you do so at 1-2%, of even worse....0%.
I think the Note charger travel pack is the best thing since sliced bread. I don't ever plug my phone in anymore. I bring the battery pack with me, and use a collapsing wall plug with a retractable micriusb cable to plug the pack in and charge my second battery...this means I can just plug my extra battery pack in at Barnes and nobles, my friends, etc...while still using my phone. I can even plug the pack into a computer and walk away. Which is great for long days at work, and means I can use my note 24/7 and never ever have to worry about battery life.
Sorry for the walk of text...and my goofy disposition. Its late and I'm so tired that I'm slap happy. But, to summarize, every device has it's shortcomings, but by spending only thirty dollars...I found away around the only real problem with the device--battery life.
The device is amazing in every way now.
I stopped using my $1300 laptop when I got my TF101 a year ago, and I stopped using my tablet for anything but reading and one fishing game since I got my phone.
AMAZINN!
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Thanks I will definitely look into navigon.just out of curiosity when using navigon off line from gps how accurate is it?.what I envy iphones for is their quick triangulation on google maps without gps.while Androids need gps to get any where close to where I am.to lead me somewhere
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Not exactly true. If you have your location services enabled then google maps will find you almost instantly within a certain range. I have yet to even use my gps yet on my note with maps and for the first time it has me shown within a quarter mile. Distance will vary with the amount of towers close by.
Navigon uses the gps. It should show you within a few feet if you are out in the open sky. Just the same as any other gps app. And I second Navigon. I have tried Sygic and Ndrive also and have found Navigon to be by far the best.
Edit: Just went outside to test the GPS for the first time. Damn this thing was quick. Connected in under 30 seconds.
Traditional 500mA car chargers just won't cut it.
Buy a power inverter and use the stock or similar 1.0A/1000mA charger and you will be able to use GPS/Bluetooth/4GLTE with screen on and still charge the phone! One warning though, the battery will get very warm with all of this running. But it will charge despite the heavy use.
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Traditional 500mA car chargers just won't cut it.
Buy a power inverter and use the stock or similar 1.0A/1000mA charger and you will be able to use GPS/Bluetooth/4GLTE with screen on and still charge the phone! One warning though, the battery will get very warm with all of this running. But it will charge despite the heavy use.
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Yeah I know that .the note is too power hungry for 500 mah chargers. when using that motorla charger listed above in my cart and using my phone with gps and lte I have seen temps as high as 129
Galaxy note LTE
Drove from Maine to Camp Lejeune, a marathon drive of about 15hrs with Navigon, and Bluetooth audio running the entire trip. I am using the Samsung car dock, and the phone stayed fully charged the whole trip.
Been very happy with the samsung car dock, price was good too.
What stinks is that the Motorola charger you posted about, the one I have, puts out 850Mah to the phone. And even that is still not enough to charge while in use. In fact,, it doesn't even maintain..... Does this phone really use that much energy to operate?
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Not exactly true. If you have your location services enabled then google maps will find you almost instantly within a certain range. I have yet to even use my gps yet on my note with maps and for the first time it has me shown within a quarter mile. Distance will vary with the amount of towers close by.
Navigon uses the gps. It should show you within a few feet if you are out in the open sky. Just the same as any other gps app. And I second Navigon. I have tried Sygic and Ndrive also and have found Navigon to be by far the best.
Edit: Just went outside to test the GPS for the first time. Damn this thing was quick. Connected in under 30 seconds.
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Yeah that's exactly what im talking about , within your location services settings if you disable the gps function and go to Google maps and click try and find my location . Their is a huge blue halo in which you could possible be your location which doesn't help when your somewhere unfamiliar. Im not a ios fan to say the least but in that aspect i find their google maps much more consumer friendly in every day usage. I used my mothers iphone while she as at work for directions for deliveries at the restaurant i work at because it was so quick to show me the route i needed and find me while my note would take maybe 15-30 or so seconds to find what i needed. Although iphones dont have turn by turn which was annoying at times looking down at a small 3.5 in screen
Im using Navigon now. Even though the lastest Navigon let you start the app, HOWEVER WITHOUT DATA it doesnt accurate. You still need GPS+data to make it works.
Side note: Anyone know any ISC Rom now works with Navigon?
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I had this prob too!
I bought an Energizer car charger that doubles as a wall mount charger. The key is it charges @ 2amps all the time. I NOW have a positive charge while driving at normal screen brightness AND GPS AND streaming Radio on 4g.
Im %99.9 sure you can do the same as long as your car mount charger is geared for 2 amps (Most are NOT)
There is another thread in here somewhere that address the charing aspects of the G-Note.
First off, they suggest getting a charger, that has two USB slots, one is a 1Amp and the other is 2Amp USB, so then you have 2Amps charging.
Does not really get to that much, so you need to buy a USB direct charge adaptor, which allows for the Note to charge in HIGH charge like at home, rather then trickle.
Works great for me,
XDA is no longer worth my time.
Something else to take into account is the USB cable you are using with your chargers. If it is a data cable it will not charge at full capacity, you need to have a USB cable that is for charging only, it has the two line for data shorted. This make a huge difference. Even if you have the 2 AMP charger you will have issue with a data cable when charging.
have a look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671083
I use a Rocketfish charger in the car and on a two hour road trip using GPS all the way and all phone services active it ended up about 5 or 6 percent higher than when I started the trip.