I have a dumb question,but is it posible to unroot a phone? Put it back the way it was? I understand that if you root your phone your voiding your warranty, is there a way to unroot the phone without the insurance to notice.
Forgive my ignorance hhhahaahahahah and thanks in advance
Yes. Quite easy.
i2go said:
I have a dumb question,but is it posible to unroot a phone? Put it back the way it was? I understand that if you root your phone your voiding your warranty, is there a way to unroot the phone without the insurance to notice.
Forgive my ignorance hhhahaahahahah and thanks in advance
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Flash the official 2.1 ruu and you are 100% stock.
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orkillakilla said:
Flash the official 2.1 ruu and you are 100% stock.
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where would one find this file?
But is there a way to find out that I rooted my phone once I install the stock Rom?
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If you're sending your phone into Asurion they won't care.
Actually I think it's quite funny that VZW and anyone else will tell you that modding your phone's software will actually VOID your warranty. Perhaps you need to re-read the warranty information and what all it legally covers. Software, because it CAN be overwritten, moddified or changed, can't be warrantied. If that were the case, everytime you did something on your computer, you'd void the warranty. Similarily, it is the SAME REASON why if you go take your computer to get cleaned from a viri infection, there IS NO guarantees once you walk out the door. Most companies even state such, but because they're suckers, they'll actually take the computer back if it's within 72 hours just so they can't be prosecuted on the "Lemon law" Act for providing a faulty service.
My point, your phone's software........droid, blackberry, winmo or otherwise, is not a source of warranty claim or validation or voiding. If that were the case, and really think about this, every time you installed a patch, because you were MODIFYING THE EXISTING OS, you'd been out of warranty a long time ago. Yes, that's probably going off the far end, but the ideology still applies. It's software, it can be manipulated and overwritten by anyone at anytime, therefore, no warranties are placed on it.
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where would one find this file?
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Use the search box above search unroot eris
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I need to send my wife's phone back to verizon. I need to unroot it and get it back to stock before I return it. Is running the Verizon RUU all I need to do to get the phone back to legit? I didn't know if that wipes out the bootloader and everything?
Any input is appreciated.
Ryzor said:
I need to send my wife's phone back to verizon. I need to unroot it and get it back to stock before I return it. Is running the Verizon RUU all I need to do to get the phone back to legit? I didn't know if that wipes out the bootloader and everything?
Any input is appreciated.
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Yes, it replaces the bootloader, the radio (with a slightly older version than the 7/17 OTA), and the /system, /data, recovery, and boot partitions. You might find that after you do this it will immediately inform you that an update is available (the 7/17 OTA).
That should be sufficient. Highly, highly unlikely that VZW is going to put a crack team of computer forensic scientists "on the case" to investigate your phone. There have been folks who reported (either here or over on AF, I can't remember) that they had returned multiple rooted phones, without making any effort whatsoever to clean them up - and not a peep out of Big Red.
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I'm getting a refurb phone because of a trackball issue. Ill be doing the ruu and ill let you know how it goes.
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Thank you both for your input.
Her phone is the trackball too...I was really hoping they would come off a different model since this will be her third Eris. Maybe the inevitable next time
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Thank you both for your input.
Her phone is the trackball too...I was really hoping they would come off a different model since this will be her third Eris. Maybe the inevitable next time
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If it happens again I would start getting ugly with Verizon and say something like "if you guys can't send me an eris that will work properly then I want a different phone that works." Usually if you complain enough or threaten to go to a competitor they will do something for you.
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I flashed the official 2.1 ruu and it flashed my phone to 100% stock. Bootloader, recovery, etc. Got the update notice for the Mr4 so I'm all good now.
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Hello, I just got an EVO 3D today and was wondering if there was a possible way to root with HBOOT 1.50?? My Software Version is 2.08.651.2
I tried using this method, but it said HBOOT 1.50 is not supported.
Does anyone know how I can root?
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
did mines last night
I actually want to root without voiding warranty. Does anyone know how much longer it will take to get root working on HBOOT 1.50 without having to void your warranty?
Thanks
It's not about whether or not you void your warranty. It's about whether HTC has the explicit knowledge that you've done so.
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in other words... if you root, u will void your warranty no matter what.
Yes, I think thats a correct assumption.
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in other words... if you root, u will void your warranty no matter what.
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How does Sprint insurance work with this?
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I think everyone is too caught up in the "will this void my warranty". The reality is: No matter the method you use, if it can be proven that YOU were at fault with borking your phone then they will probably tell you that you aren't covered and make you pay for the fix. This is the understanding that everyone who comes to XDA or any of the similar sites should have prior to doing anything to your phone.
Nobody has explicitly said that HTC will void a warranty on a phone unlocked with HTC's Unlock Tool. There is a pretty good chance that using the Revolutionary method will void it if they can prove it. You need to get really good at reversing your tracks and getting your phone back to square one. Follow all directions, make sure you know what you are flashing before you do.
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How does Sprint insurance work with this?
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Yeah, rooting your phone automatically voids your warranty. I just received my Evo last week and didn't get Sprint's insurance, but got radioshack's. Usually, the phone companies does not cover rooted phones.
I really doubt that Sprint's insurance cares one way or the other. A tech at a store may refuse to work on it if you don't have the stock rom on it and it's a software problem (which is valid as they can't fix problems some custom roms have). If you get water damage, screen cracks, or you lose it, who cares if it was rooted. You can always report it lost and they will never know one way or the other. They've had no problems working on unlocked windows mobile phones in the past or replacing them through asurion in my experience.
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Nobody has explicitly said that HTC will void a warranty on a phone unlocked with HTC's Unlock Tool. There is a pretty good chance that using the Revolutionary method will void it if they can prove it. You need to get really good at reversing your tracks and getting your phone back to square one. Follow all directions, make sure you know what you are flashing before you do.
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actually, htc does say you'll void your warranty if you use their unlock tool. there's a warning about it before you try their method.
btw, if you want to flash custom kernels for the custom roms, you need to boot into recovery (type "fasboot boot recovery.img" <recovery.img> is the name of whatever your recovery image is) through bootloader. i didn't know that and i was pulling my hair out flashing roms that wouldn't boot properly because i used rom manager and other methods to reboot into recovery.
this is for hboot 1.50
you need the kernels that go with the roms or your phone won't boot the roms properly.
You do know they too are aware of our secret public forum.
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we all know if you use any rooting method your warranty is void and like someone said by easily reverting back to factory stock this can be concealed. I think the concern is if people with hboot 1.50 use the HTCDEV unlock method and root their phone, will that place a marker or be put in some kind of database for sprint techs to see thus ruining chances of the phone being taken care of by them? I know I read that locking the phone backup shows so no matter what the techs will know.
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SielickiN said:
Hey all. I hate nothing more than looking around for problems I have with my stuff and then finding a forum post that shows the exact problem and then someone saying, "fixed it" and nothing more. So this is how I fixed the problem.
Basically I have no clue if i actually flashed a new bootloader. I couldn't care less. What I did was flash this SBF file using RDS Lite (ITS VERY IMPORTANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH SBFs - Easy bricking!)
found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125944 First SBF in the thread.
By reflashing that I have successfully removed the "unlocked" text at the top when booting the phone. Did I actually unlock the phone? I have no clue. But I feel confident enough to walk into an ATT store tomorrow and ask for a replacement.
Is there anyone out there that knows if it's possible for them to see at this point? Or by flashing that SBF did I completely put the phone to stock and make it identical to before I unlocked/rooted? Thanks!
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If you unlocked your phone you "blow" a fuse, its irreversible as it PHYSICALLY blows a fuse, nothing to do with software. They can check if you have unlocked the bootloader before by checking the values of the ReservedODM. To quote eval-,
"You can view the state of your ReservedOdm by looking at /sys/firmware/fuse/ReservedOdm, if you are root. Mine looks like this:
10000000000010001000100004000
(before unlock:
10000000000010001000100000000)"
As you can see, unlocking your phone cannot be undone, but it is highly unlikely they will check.
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SielickiN said:
Thanks for the response.
I'm only concerned because as I understand this voids the warranty, yes?
I'm going to go to an ATT store tonight an exchange this phone for another one (I've had some random crashes not caused by software). I assume my current phone will be sent to a repair factory somewhere. Will they check this then? Will they then bill my account for it? Or will I be safe?
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You should be alright. They rarely do check the fuses.
I've sent mine in twice and they fixed it both times. my fuse was "blown" and I was not charged. you should be okay.
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They rarely do check the fuses.
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SielickiN said:
Thanks for the response.
I'm only concerned because as I understand this voids the warranty, yes?
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MAY void the warranty is the wording used.
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Okay so I went to 2 different stores and they spread misinformation but the basic idea is I cannot do this exchange in store because it's a refurbished unit.
So they're sending me an alternate refurbished unit. And i'm sending this unit back.
Do I still have nothing to fear? Will they bill my account when I send them a device with the fuse blown?
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You'll be fine, just flash gingerbread to remove unlocked. I sent my phone straight to Motorola under warranty and they repaired it without question. My issues were in no way related to flashing tho (fingerprint scanner and digitizer). I don't think you voided it from what I read you did, just put stock firmware back on it.
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I was on GB with root, then went to ICS with root. Went back to GB with, anticipating a warranty exchange.
I called in and the guy spent a few minutes trying to trouble shoot. He placed me on hold for a few minutes and then came back on and told me whatever software he has says my phone is rooted and therefore, my warranty is voided.
Ok, fine, I get that. My questions is this...if I send the phone back in UNROOTED, will they deny my warranty claim? Is it noted in my account somewhere to deny the warranty for this jerk who just wanted more functionality from his phone?
My understanding is that Motorola has a program on the phone that basically narks you out when you root your device. You may have a hard time convencing them otherwise.
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So who has found the program and disabled it? lol
HotShotAzn said:
I was on GB with root, then went to ICS with root. Went back to GB with, anticipating a warranty exchange.
I called in and the guy spent a few minutes trying to trouble shoot. He placed me on hold for a few minutes and then came back on and told me whatever software he has says my phone is rooted and therefore, my warranty is voided.
Ok, fine, I get that. My questions is this...if I send the phone back in UNROOTED, will they deny my warranty claim? Is it noted in my account somewhere to deny the warranty for this jerk who just wanted more functionality from his phone?
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No, there is not, the warranty will go through perfectly.
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My understanding is that Motorola has a program on the phone that basically narks you out when you root your device. You may have a hard time convencing them otherwise.
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No such application exists, there would be too much fallout.
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The same thing happened to me when I called Motorola about fixing my screen because it has a stuck pixel. They took my mobile number and put me on hold. only to come back a minute later to tell me they won't repair it for free because my phone is rooted. So my apologies but the software exists somewhere on this phone.
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hasbrobot said:
The same thing happened to me when I called Motorola about fixing my screen because it has a stuck pixel. They took my mobile number and put me on hold. only to come back a minute later to tell me they won't repair it for free because my phone is rooted. So my apologies but the software exists somewhere on this phone.
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I've called Verizon and gotten two warranty exchanges both the phones were rooted, one at the time I called them. Both went through completely fine. So I'm guessing that it's only Motorola that can tell?
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I believe so, i'm not sure Verizon can sniff it out but moto sure can. I was searching for the link for you guys but can't find it. It was a new article talking about how it's only recent but there's an app or program that can narc on us. I'm sorry if this sounds conspiracy like but moto just proved it to me last week.
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I'm not good at following directions. Or playing well with others. Or sharing.
Thanks prbassplayer
Just a note: I decided not to go through with it. On TMo, I had phones rooted and flashed all the time - and still turned those into warranty. So long as there was no physical defect or water damage, they could care less.
Please help read!!
So my HTC amaze died on me about 2 days ago I was listening to my music in my car connected through Bluetooth then a cop passed by and everything shut off haha coincidence haha anyway went home had no service like absolutely nothing thought nothing of it and went to sleep, next morning still nothing and ever since now its dead. Called HTC they said most likely its T-Mobile not the phone but they sent me a replacement back cover (which is cool) because the antennas are on the back anyway I know this isn't the problem because even without the back cover you can still get signal. So I took phone to T-Mobile put new sim tested and nothing so now I know its the phone not T-Mobile. Anyway my question is how can I prepare to send back to T-Mobile I have relocked phone put stock recovery and put leaked ics Rom. So is that bad that it sais relocked and bad if I'm using leaked ics rom I know its voids warrenty when it sais relocked but my software and phone everything works perfect its just the signal so will they fix it? And when I send in could I send phone with a eBay bought battery not HTC one so they could send me a new battery or should I send only HTC battery, phone, and back cover. And also is there any fix for this so I don't have to send in? Please help thanks
You can install official ruu and that will update and install your hboot to locked, which is what tells them if it's locked or relocked. If you don't know how to do this you need to read. Also I've been hearing that ever since s off became available they are considering as voiding warranty not sure if this has taken effect yet or if it matters but just to be sure if your s off read the section that tells you how to s on.
Now before you send have you tried toggling airplane mode on and off ? Still no signal? Flash the official ruu usually fixes these issues. If still no signal then I suggest you send it in.
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You can install official ruu and that will update and install your hboot to locked, which is what tells them if it's locked or relocked. If you don't know how to do this you need to read. Also I've been hearing that ever since s off became available they are considering as voiding warranty not sure if this has taken effect yet or if it matters but just to be sure if your s off read the section that tells you how to s on.
Now before you send have you tried toggling airplane mode on and off ? Still no signal? Flash the official ruu usually fixes these issues. If still no signal then I suggest you send it in.
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It's still gonna say relocked, the only way he can get it back to "locked", is if he s-off's the device, once s-off is successful, it automatically puts it as locked all over again, he can leave it as lock, restore a stock ruu, then using, use the command: fastboot writesecureflag 3, that will s-on the device along with everything else being complete stock.
Hmm ya I know how to ruu wich I did but I ruu the ics leak and now everything's stock accept that it sais relocked and want to know if that's gonna be a problem for warrenty when I send it in? It shouldnt since its not software problem? And ya hear how to s off just don't want to try wire trick and all that. And yep tryed turning off and on airplane mode turning off radio taking T-Mobile to change sim cards have original stock Rom tryed *#*#4636#*#* all those tricks but nothing.
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It's still gonna say relocked, the only way he can get it back to "locked", is if he s-off's the device, once s-off is successful, it automatically puts it as locked all over again, he can leave it as lock, restore a stock ruu, then using, use the command: fastboot writesecureflag 3, that will s-on the device along with everything else being complete stock.
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Yeah I wasn't sure if he was s off or not but thanks for correcting me.
cast2brian said:
Hmm ya I know how to ruu wich I did but I ruu the ics leak and now everything's stock accept that it sais relocked and want to know if that's gonna be a problem for warrenty when I send it in? It shouldnt since its not software problem? And ya hear how to s off just don't want to try wire trick and all that. And yep tryed turning off and on airplane mode turning off radio taking T-Mobile to change sim cards have original stock Rom tryed *#*#4636#*#* all those tricks but nothing.
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When you chose to unlock boatloader you voided your warranty. So by saying relocked it tells them you unlocked it. You need to do what dark nightmare says or you run the risk of not warranting your phone. Luckily for me I "lost" my phone so I couldn't send it in.
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fcpelayo said:
Yeah I wasn't sure if he was s off or not but thanks for correcting me.
When you chose to unlock boatloader you voided your warranty. So by saying relocked it tells them you unlocked it. You need to do what dark nightmare says or you run the risk of not warranting your phone. Luckily for me I "lost" my phone so I couldn't send it in.
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Just trying to help you get that under your hat, no offense meant.
Aw man well hope HTC is cool about it since its not a software problem but just gotta hope for the best!! Ha argh sucks I bought this on craigslist a couple months back for $300 ha I have pre paid
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Aw man well hope HTC is cool about it since its not a software problem but just gotta hope for the best!! Ha argh sucks I bought this on craigslist a couple months back for $300 ha I have pre paid <br />
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I've never heard of a warranty exchange get denied for this phone... even rooted. Most issues with this device are hw issues... u will be fine
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aw glacierguy thanks for the positive attitude! hope everything goes good for my phone!
So update for everyone i called HTC back and told them to cancel my back cover replacement for the Amaze because i know this is not the reason why i have no bars! because without that cover i still had bars and i know the amaze has some more antennas inside the device. Anyway i told them that i want to send the phone in for repairs so now everything set up and just have to send the phone on its way :crying: hope its a hardware issue and they can fix it. In the mean time got kinda intresting email from HTC saying
"After we receive the device, we will diagnose it and if there are any damages that fall outside of the limited warranty, we will contact you with a quotation to repair. If you choose not to repair, a service fee of up to $35 dollars will be charged and the device will be returned unrepaired."
Yes kinda scared me but hope i don't have to pay anything for this repair so everyone wish me luck and ill let you guys know how everything goes.
Sucks im probably not gonna have my phone for about a month
Just asking, but even if you managed to get the phone completely back to stock and say "Locked" isn't HTC able to tell if you've unlocked the bootloader via their unlock process on the website?
I was under the impression that the entire reason for the HTC unlock process (getting the key from the phone, etc) was so that they would have a database of phones that have had their bootloader unlocked? I'm kind of new to this but that was my impression.
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Just asking, but even if you managed to get the phone completely back to stock and say "Locked" isn't HTC able to tell if you've unlocked the bootloader via their unlock process on the website?
I was under the impression that the entire reason for the HTC unlock process (getting the key from the phone, etc) was so that they would have a database of phones that have had their bootloader unlocked? I'm kind of new to this but that was my impression.
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I think they do have a database, yes, but that only tells them that you requested the file, they can't know you YOU used the file, can they? Huh? Nope, if they knew you used the file, that sir would be invasion of privacy, then they'd be paying for more than just a simple device replacement with the lawsuits that would be hitting them from every mobile device owner using their product.
So once it says "Locked", they can't say you voided your warranty, then they'd have to prove it.
Yes what darknightmare said you could get token but maybe last second decided not to do it haha anywho sending it saying relocked hope they fix hardware issue if not maybe gotta spend money?
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I think they do have a database, yes, but that only tells them that you requested the file, they can't know you YOU used the file, can they? Huh? Nope, if they knew you used the file, that sir would be invasion of privacy, then they'd be paying for more than just a simple device replacement with the lawsuits that would be hitting them from every mobile device owner using their product.
So once it says "Locked", they can't say you voided your warranty, then they'd have to prove it.
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They don't need a database. There is no way I know of to get a "locked" phone once it has been unlocked. It will say "relocked". So HTC knows it has had an unlocked bootloader. That doesn't necessarily negate the warranty so far as HTC is concerned. I've read that they have fixed what are obviously hardware problems. But they won't fix anything that a ROM screwed up unless you pay.
The wildcard is T-Mobile. They may or may not be picky about these sort of things.
Ya for sure lets see what htc sais shipped out today through ups htc should get it thursday hope ups loses or breaks my packagae have 300 dollar insurance ha but yep anyone know of any prices for this fix?
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They don't need a database. There is no way I know of to get a "locked" phone once it has been unlocked. It will say "relocked". So HTC knows it has had an unlocked bootloader. That doesn't necessarily negate the warranty so far as HTC is concerned. I've read that they have fixed what are obviously hardware problems. But they won't fix anything that a ROM screwed up unless you pay.
The wildcard is T-Mobile. They may or may not be picky about these sort of things.
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Sir, when I say there is a way to get a "locked" bootloader, please don't argue with me unless you can prove my theories wrong, , I have tested and proven everything I speak of, I don't just say something because I want to.
Edit: For the record, once it says "relocked" you have voided your warranty, if you read the agreement on HTC website when unlocking your bootloader and the message on the device when unlocking, it clearly states by unlocking your bootloader you are voiding your warranty.
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Sir, when I say there is a way to get a "locked" bootloader, please don't argue with me unless you can prove my theories wrong, , I have tested and proven everything I speak of, I don't just say something because I want to.
Edit: For the record, once it says "relocked" you have voided your warranty, if you read the agreement on HTC website when unlocking your bootloader and the message on the device when unlocking, it clearly states by unlocking your bootloader you are voiding your warranty.
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100% on what Dark Nightmare said, i followed the procedure on the forums on how to completely restore to stock. i was s-off etc.. after it was all said and done, my phone was locked and ready to rock. I sent it back after my replacement arrived and all was good.
Just read through General, Q&A and Dev section, Trust me the answer is there. It's ALWAYS there. I used the GB juopunutbear S-off tool instead of the ICS tool cause i am retarded and didn't take my time and got stuck because of it. I did 2-3 minutes of using the search button and i was fixed in a second!
First of all! Yes Dark Nightmare is correct he knows his stuff you can put it back to locked anywho i would first like to say thank you for all the replys to this post. First post and didnt think my question would be answered but it was and its a great community we got here, i may be new member, but ive always been on xda reading up and hacking all my phones i have went from metro pcs huawei ascend, tmobile my touch 4g and now htc amaze all rooted and custom roms also have done droid and sidekick 4g. The thing is i do have experience and learned alot. Main thing is its an honor to have Dark nightmare and glacierguy here i feel like you guys are famous! ha have seen you guys in different sections and you guys know your stuff so thanks!
p.s everyone that posted i hit thanks
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That's why when dknmare comes in I don't argue with him instead I take it and learn.
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Dark Nightmare said:
Sir, when I say there is a way to get a "locked" bootloader, please don't argue with me unless you can prove my theories wrong, , I have tested and proven everything I speak of, I don't just say something because I want to.
Edit: For the record, once it says "relocked" you have voided your warranty, if you read the agreement on HTC website when unlocking your bootloader and the message on the device when unlocking, it clearly states by unlocking your bootloader you are voiding your warranty.
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I think my post may not have been clear. Of course you can lock the bootloader; that is how one installs the original ROM. But I was under the impression that it then says ”relocked” if you have previously unlocked the device. That warning from HTC have me a lot of pause when I read it! But I think what I read said ”may” void your warranty. But I was reading fast...
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