Title says all. Can anyone tell me anything about it(if you have attended) besides that its expensive as all hell. Like is there any requirements to attend or is it open to anybody that can afford it?
How expensive is it? lol I'd love to go.
I/O is more of a development conference than anything else. You can still access the live blogs on some tech sites.
It was 400 for registration last year. But I do believe all the people got a n1 for registering
Sent from my Cyanogen Froyo using XDA App
Yeah that's the thing... didn't they give free white evos out last time?
Yea I do believe so... I'm not certain tho because I have yet to attend.
Sent from my Cyanogen Froyo using XDA App
My husband and I went to Google I/O 2010. We were both sent Droids in the mail before the conference and both received a black Evo while at the conference. All of the phones included a free month of service. If you sign up during the early bird registration, you save some money (last year it sold out during early bird). Google gives out other freebies like socks and shirts too. They also had breakfast and lunch all days of the conference and dinner (with alcohol!) at the party. I think it's well worth the money. We stayed in California for the whole week and took full advantage of Groupons for dining and entertainment. We will be going back in 2011 because it's an awesome experience and well worth the money. If you really want to go, I would just set aside the money in advance so you don't have to worry about the whole cost at once. We paid for our conference tickets the week they went on sale, the plane tickets the next month, hotel the next month and set aside money for everything else during the other months we were waiting to go. It's a really incredible experience!
Around when did the early bird registration start? Really interested to go, want to bounce some ideas
My receipt was dated 1/14/10 for last year
I checked my receipt for Google IO 2010 and it is dated January 14th. I am sure I registered within a week of the announcement. I would expect to see registration announced and open shortly after New Year's. Put money aside now as it will sell out VERY fast. Last year it sold out during early bird registration period.
Does anyone know where to get tickets for the Google I/O confefence 2011? Thanks
earldriscoll said:
I checked my receipt for Google IO 2010 and it is dated January 14th. I am sure I registered within a week of the announcement. I would expect to see registration announced and open shortly after New Year's. Put money aside now as it will sell out VERY fast. Last year it sold out during early bird registration period.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
to the people that went to IO last year, are you developers or just people that wanted to go? if you are the later, what were your thoughts on the actual conference? is it worth it for people who don't develop?
Should non developers attend?
schwincat05 said:
to the people that went to IO last year, are you developers or just people that wanted to go? if you are the later, what were your thoughts on the actual conference? is it worth it for people who don't develop?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am not a developer per se, and I went last year. The swag in and of itself makes it worth attending. Additionally I had an amazing time attending the Android workshops and in the area where all the various software companies had their displays (I got a square reader for example). I will be registering as soon as early bird registration opens, I already have purchased my flight tickets. If you are as much a phone geek as me I would strongly recommend attending.
I can't wait
I know I can't wait to go to GOOGLE I/O this year, when is registration?
Save the date for Google I/O 2011
Google I/O just recently came to a close, but it won’t be long before we start gearing up for next year. And we’d like to make sure it’s on your calendars!
May 10-11, 2011
Moscone West, San Francisco
We’ll keep you updated when registration opens for I/O 2011 on the Google Code Blog, Twitter, and Buzz.
Google I/O registration opens this month. Be prepared to sign up quickly. Bet it sells out very, very fast.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
twitter.com - vicgundotra
Student Registration
Hey Question!!! how does the student registration work... when you get there is the only thing you have to show is a student id, also do students get the same perks that the full fair paying paticipants get...ie gifts...lol
My perspective on Google I/O
Google I/O is the conference to go to for all Google's developer tech. Not just Android, but Google TV, Chrome, GWT, etc...
As a European I have to say the cost is very low. Java One last year cost $2000 - that's $400 a day. An open source conference in London this spring is charging the equivalent of $500 a day. I can fly in to SF for a full week, stay in a nice hotel, go to Google I/O and spend less than the cost of a week's training in the UK (yes, I know I/O is only two days).
Devoxx is similar in approach - a fantastic value conference in Belgium that from a training and development perspective is a no-brainer. I'm a freelance consultant so I don't say this lightly - when I'm training I'm not earning!
If you're interested in going then you need to keep an eye on the Google Code Blog (googlecode) at blogspot (I've not enough posts yet to insert a URL) or the twitter feed 'googleio', which just yesterday said that registration would open this month. See you there!
Can anyone give me some feedback/justification on the android information at google io?
My company is willing to send me if it is worthwhile, and I need to find out as much about it as possible.
Is this the best conference for android developers to go to? Is there a better one?
Innova133 said:
Can anyone give me some feedback/justification on the android information at google io?
My company is willing to send me if it is worthwhile, and I need to find out as much about it as possible.
Is this the best conference for android developers to go to? Is there a better one?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well i mean no one has more knowledge on the android system them the people who developed it? ive never been to one, but by the sounds of the people posting, it seems like it would be very worthwhile. if i wasnt a poor college student, i think that i would sign up to go.
Edit: just saw the student price.... now I'm for sure going
I'll be there this year. =)
I made the decision to go after seeing the swag^H^H^H^H conferences from last year. Money is budgeted for my daughter (student) and I to buy tickets as soon as they open up.
Related
I read in this month's issue of Stuff magazine that a new version of the XDA will be released later this year.
Browsing on internet I found only one link that showed a picture of a xda with a blue back panel and could as well be the original model.
Has anyone heard about this and maybe know where to find more info on this (if O2 will support them for instance) and some specs and maybe photo's?
Thanx
There will be a new version of the XDA but it's not certain yet which company/ies will be releasing it. I heard some rumours about bluetooth, more memory and a faster processor, I haven't heard anything on SDIO support yet.
Bluetooth would be great, WiFi would be fantastic. Maybe even GPS and a 56K color screen (for the freaks among us to watch movies)?
Anyone know the mail adress/website of HTC who makes them? Have some requests of my own....
Hope someone will post here as soon as they find out more..
If it has the newer Xscale CPU it's very likely it will support SDIO. The SD controller is build-in the CPU and all Xscale CPU's support SDIO.
Chiani
Ok, first off, getting your electronics info from "Stuff" magazine is like getting steak grilling tips from PETA. Plus all magazines like that are typically posted about two months after they are written, making them pretty useless for new developments.
Secondly, predicting a new XDA is like predicting that the sun will come up tomorrow, that winter will come in a few months, or that the curry I ate today will sting my ass tomorrow. It's obviously going to happen.
It's worthless until they say "on this date a new XDA with these features will be available." And when they can do that, you'll already have read it here two months earlier.
pc pro
i have a pc pro subscription. They had a review of the new iPaq with pocketPc 2k3. they went on to mention that all the pocket devices will be getting the update. including XDA.
Tomorrow never comes? But we old get older, and hopefully wiser...
Martin
Right Carlos...
One of the main reasons for a forum is for guys like me to wonder about stuff. Ask questions to other users with the same interest. Sometimes intelligent questions and some times less intelligent, but always within the region of interest of other forum readers. If you feel a threat is dumb, don't read it and especially don't reply on it. No need for smart-ass remarks here, we just want to chat about stuff we like.
I had a question, couldn't find it in the forum so I asked. Big Deal.
is like getting steak grilling tips from PETA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL!
Anyway, PPC2K3 will appear on the XDA: Maybe not today; maybe not tomorrow; but soon and for the rest of your life.
::Bonkers eyes that revolve around three times per second because of copious amonts of beer:: Oh, not allowed that emoticon yet?
No need for smart-ass remarks here, we just want to chat about stuff we like.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, I wasn't laughing AT you, but WITH you... I posted what I did because many people don't realize just how that publishing process goes--it's very lengthy and full of PR assholes. Those "what's new in electronics" columns are one of my pet peeves. And I'm a gruff asshole by nature anyway, so it came out worse than intended.
Hehe, no harm done. At least you were true about Stuff Magazine and most of it's other companions.
So.... When is the new model comming out?
;]
Playboy says next week...
..... it will have more intellectual articles about geopolitical situation? :wink:
in this article
Taiwanese ODM High Tech Computer (HTC) Corp will ship an updated PPC 2003/ARM4 version of its Falcon (aka Spaceneedle, Wallaby) PPC Phone Edition design, as sold by AT&T, mm02 and T-Mobile, before the end of June.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and yesterday being the end of june, they seem to have missed the deadline... : [
This may be of interest..
I spoke to T Mobile UK about when the MDA was going to be introduced. They said that it was originally going to be introduced in March but now has been put back to the end of this year (because of techical difficulties?).
I wonder if they are planning to introduce the new unit.
Primed
New XDA details
This s the response I received from Carrier Devices regarding the New Qtek (XDA):
"There are plans for a new Qtek device, however I can't give out any official information. It won't be available until the end of the year, but will have Built in Bluetooth, SDIO and be tri-band"
please refer to topic http://xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1500 for further information about the XDA II
I guess I got my initial question answered, so as far as I'm concerned, this topic is now out-of-date
thanx for all the replies!
New XDA gets a mention at the register
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/59/31500.html
As usaul no details about it though
WiFi
The article on the register hints at WiFi.
Saying that users can seamlessly jump from hot spot to gprs...
Bet it will all cost a small fortune though!!
Martin
Who cares Martin! Us suckers will still buy it, it's only money!
revival
If somebody has the time...
Bring back the wishlist for XDA II and make it a sticky.
Bring on SDIO and the bluetooth!!!!
I was about to get this thing, I had been waiting quite some time in front of my comp for this sale. I noticed a little lag, figured it was just because of my Macbook's recent permissions issues. So then the sale price hits, and eBay slows to a crawl. now, that might have been foreseeable years ago, but it's almost 2012 and large online businesses should know by now to prepare for bandwidth issues during sales around Christmas.
so anyway, the sale hits, and I hit add to cart, and nothing happens. crawl, crawl, crawl. so then I finally get the cart to open after about 15 mins or so, with the 16 GB version in it, and I click again for the 6th or 7th time on the 32 GB for me, to add it. after another few minutes, the cart opens, with both touchpads in it, and tells me that they are both UNAVAILABLE. despite the fact that I had had them in the cart and was signed in, eBay's sytem sold them anyway.
now, if I was at a Best Buy, and put something in my cart on my way to the counter, but then got delayed by someone walking slowly through the aisle, do you think a Best buy employee would take an item out of my cart and sell it to someone else? unlikely, unless they wanted to get fired.
this was all on my school's T1 connection btw. just tested at 75 down, 40 up. every other site is running flawlessly but failBay.
They had like only 2400 ish of the 16gb and 2500ish of the 32. Sad... Couldn't process payment either.
Took me almost an hour and many, many failed attempts but I was able to snag 32 GB honey. Now anybody know where I can find the accessory kit that was supposed to be available with the touchstone charger and keyboard? It's not in HP's store or elsewhere on eBay that I can find.
I was able to get a 16 in my cart, but when I went to check out I got the error it wasn't available. That was at 6 past the hour.
So much for employees only today and public sale tomorrow.
All this demand and excitement should show HP there is room for another pony in the tablet race. Hopefully when they make their next webOS tablet they do it right, and do something crazy like market it and advertise that it exists.
Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
I got a 32 gb model which is what I was aiming for.
When I hit Buy It Now it wouldn't go through so I manually changed the address bar to ebay.co.uk instead of ebay.com and it went through with no problem and I got my payment confirm email.
Ebay must have been hammered.
Had to use the Canadian ebay site to get a 32gb touchpad.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using xda premium
I tried for both a 16GB and 32GB exactly at 6pm Central Time and no luck ... zip ... nada. I wanted to gift the 32GB and use the 16GB as a back up since I'm tinkering a lot with mine. I heard at another site that the servers crashed and that they might have more in stock. I'm still refreshing the eBay page.
all the sold items are from people in pacific time....hmmm.
via EVO.
How exactly is this eBays fault? This **** always happens whenever there is something a lot of people want. When I purchased a few dozen TouchPads from the HP SMS It was a lot worse and I was double charged a few times.
Its also quite amazing seeing all those pathetic buyers leaving Negative feedback to HP for charging 19 for shipping. As that was what HP was charging on its SMS page.
I spent an hour and a half trying to buy 2 of them, even called up ebay!! And no luck -__- so furious!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium
I managed to get myself a 32GB but i got it at the loss of my F5 key. Poor button got worn down to the contacts lol. It took me about 40 + minutes for the whole process.
Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk
Falkner09 said:
I was about to get this thing, I had been waiting quite some time in front of my comp for this sale. I noticed a little lag, figured it was just because of my Macbook's recent permissions issues. So then the sale price hits, and eBay slows to a crawl. now, that might have been foreseeable years ago, but it's almost 2012 and large online businesses should know by now to prepare for bandwidth issues during sales around Christmas.
so anyway, the sale hits, and I hit add to cart, and nothing happens. crawl, crawl, crawl. so then I finally get the cart to open after about 15 mins or so, with the 16 GB version in it, and I click again for the 6th or 7th time on the 32 GB for me, to add it. after another few minutes, the cart opens, with both touchpads in it, and tells me that they are both UNAVAILABLE. despite the fact that I had had them in the cart and was signed in, eBay's sytem sold them anyway.
now, if I was at a Best Buy, and put something in my cart on my way to the counter, but then got delayed by someone walking slowly through the aisle, do you think a Best buy employee would take an item out of my cart and sell it to someone else? unlikely, unless they wanted to get fired.
this was all on my school's T1 connection btw. just tested at 75 down, 40 up. every other site is running flawlessly but failBay.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ok dude..
bit you DO realize, that eBay is an AUCTION plattform?
dunno where you live and what you experienced till now... but they're no regular shopping site like you seem to misunderstood ..
eBay too is first come first served.. and holding them responsible for not guaranteeing you one EVEN THOUGH you had them in your cart... sry .. but srsly? first-time ebayer?
if you followed this whole Touchpad-madness from the beginning you should have known what to expect.. otherwise you were just unprepared ..
as it was only expected to mass-kill servers again..
then again.. you should have completed ONE order at a time.. do you could have had one now instead of nothing maybe?
just for the next time..
oh and congratulations to everyone who joined the club of TouchPad-owners
People probably had the ebay page with everything ready to go when it began
YoMaMa7467 said:
I managed to get myself a 32GB but i got it at the loss of my F5 key. Poor button got worn down to the contacts lol. It took me about 40 + minutes for the whole process.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here. I was able to snag a 32 after about 45 min of refreshing.
I am not sure why anyone would be surprised that ebay checkout would be dicey on this deal. I considered trying to get in on the action, but went to bed early instead. I snagged a 16gb in the original HP firesale and have been very happy with it.
A few have commented that the demand for these touchpads at $99 and $149 should make HP reconsider the platform. HP cannot make a profit at that price point. Take the Kindle Fire as an example. It is estimated that Amazon is losing money on the Kindle Fire. They intend to make up the profit on the sale of books, movies, and apps. If Amazon is losing money at the $200 price point on a 7" unit with a stripped down feature set, what price would HP need to get to break even on a 10" touchpad? HP would probably need to charge at least $300 just to break even, and maybe $350-400 to make a profit. Add to that the fact that HP is not a media sales company. Apple has itunes and Amazon has its media empire. Apple and Amazon have the infrastructure to make tons of cash on the sale of apps and media. HP has no such outlet. They are purely a hardware manufacturer. Add to that the expense of running and developing your own OS and you have a recipe for failure.
The other hardware manufacturers like Samsung, Asus, etc are using Android and therefore saving a boatload in software development costs. Therefore they can price thier devices a bit lower than HP and make a profit.
Bottom line, the touchpad at $499 was a complete joke. At $299 it may have been viable - but HP would not be able to make a profit on the hardware and they do not have the infrastructure to make a profit on the sale of books, media, and such.
How I scored 2x's 32gb Touchpads, last night...a pay by play.
I'm not trying to troll here, or get flamed for this post, but I don't see Ebay as the bad guy here...or HP.
Ebay's not bad. Neither is HP. Don't be bitter if you didn't get lucky or prepare.
Here are a few thoughts. I'm in south England and was lucky enough to get (not one, but) 2 32gb models. But I expected the sales rush and made proper preparations. I mean, the way this was publicized, even if only 1% of the US population (excluding the rest of the world, mind you) was interested then there were somewhere in the neighborhood of 4 million people trying to get on that auction. Knowing this, like I said, I made some preparations. Maybe these steps helped, maybe I got lucky, maybe I made a deal with the devil...but the moral of the story is that I gave it thought, prepared as much as I could, and got exactly what I was hoping for...here's how it went down. [auction began 12:00AM local time]
1. (9:00PM local time) I powered down my laptop for about 2 hours, to let the processor and mb cool down (I know, probably excessive, but I really wanted a pair of pads)
2. (11:45PM local time) I turned off my wifi adaptor and connected directly to my router with an ethernet cable (my housemate offered me his 20 meter cable, but I opted for my 2 meter cable...again, probably overkill: worrying about signal reduction and loss over an additional 18 meters of ethernet cable)
3. (11:48PM local time) I manually killed any programs and processes running in the background at reboot. If I didn't need it for the browser for this auction, it was terminated. Why waste processing power on ObjectDock or WinAmp?!
4. (11:49PM local time) I deleted my cache, browser history and cleared all data in my browser and killed a few unnecessary browser extensions (again, why did I need them last night?).
5. (11:52PM local time) I logged into ebay, and opened the HP store and the touchpad stores in spare browser tabs about 10 minutes before the auction prices dipped. (This probably didn't increase my chances of being effective, but it made me feel better that I could see the auctions.)
6. (11:54PM local time) Possibly the most effective measure was copying the URL for the auction I wanted to get in on to the clipboard (I assume we all know CTRL-C, here). This was helpful when the REAL traffic hit.
I had absolutely NO problem loading the site, until 1 minute after the price change (12:01AM local time). Then all hell broke loose. I assume there were several servers in the Ebay server bays that literally almost caught on fire last night (ok, maybe a bit of literary hyperbole there). I clicked to add a (first just 1) 32gb pad to my cart. I was taken directly to the pay for my cart-page...but then I decided that my wife would probably appreciate one for her bday in a few months, so I decided to damn the torpedoes and go for broke (12:03AM local time). When I went back however, was when problems started popping up. The servers weren't returning data...basically it was an admin's worst nightmare. There would've been nothing they could do even if they had been watching it happen. Here's where #6 was handy, I popped open a new tab and with CTRL-V pasted my destination URL. Working as frantically as a xmas-elf high on meth on xmas-eve, I had to rinse and repeat this step a few times (now we're up to about 12:05-7 local). I had a strategy for reloading the page, too. I noticed before the prices dropped that the site either loaded in about 1-1.5 seconds or it took up to a minute, and had a tendency of crashing (message: no data returned from server). So after several reload/wait half a second cycles I managed to get 2 of those bad-boys in my cart, and immediately paid for them.
End of story. Sorry that got so long, but I'm long winded...
Anyway, sorry to those who didn't make the preparations or have the luck that I did. Like I said, I dunno which it was...but IMO the prep paid off.
I had three phones two computers both connect to a t1 server and I was unable to buy the 16gb version at all! Ended up just getting the 32gb instead and it took 20 min to order it.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium
I friggin had one and stupid payment site kept messing up. By the time I got to confirm payment it deleted the items!!
This was a cluster ****.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA App
Puenos said:
ok dude..
bit you DO realize, that eBay is an AUCTION plattform?
dunno where you live and what you experienced till now... but they're no regular shopping site like you seem to misunderstood ..
eBay too is first come first served.. and holding them responsible for not guaranteeing you one EVEN THOUGH you had them in your cart... sry .. but srsly? first-time ebayer?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
long time ebayer actually. which is why I know that its NOT just an auction platform. the sale last night was, in fact, from the STORE section of the site. i.e, the regular shopping site.
As for the cart thing, yes, they should be guaranteeing people products if the item has been placed in their carts. that's what first come, first served actually means. It means I actually got there first, and got the item, yet ebay then sold it to someone else just because their own site was lagging.
as for the site ag, eBay is indeed responsible for that. it's a business' responsibility to make sure it is prepared for its customers, not the customer's responsibility to redesign the store.
Falkner09 said:
long time ebayer actually. which is why I know that its NOT just an auction platform. the sale last night was, in fact, from the STORE section of the site. i.e, the regular shopping site.
As for the cart thing, yes, they should be guaranteeing people products if the item has been placed in their carts. that's what first come, first served actually means. It means I actually got there first, and got the item, yet ebay then sold it to someone else just because their own site was lagging.
as for the site ag, eBay is indeed responsible for that. it's a business' responsibility to make sure it is prepared for its customers, not the customer's responsibility to redesign the store.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its a calculated business risk. Should Ebay pay to have enough server capability and bandwidth to handle an event (and the traffic that comes with it) that happens maybe once a year?
Then answer is an emphatic no. That would be a colossal waste of money. Will that decision piss some people off? Sure. For the great majority, though, they will either A) get a Touchpad, or B) Understand that these things happen with a popular product (especially since we JUST saw it happen 4 months ago). You seem to be in category C. and Ebay is betting that the lost goodwill from those in category C. will be less than the cost of paying a ****-ton for servers and bandwidth.
A perfect brick and mortar example would be that you are essentially saying that Toys R' Us should buy three buildings for every store. One to house the store as we see it now, and the other two that the open only around christmas to shelve all of the tickle-me-elmos that are demanded at that time. These other two buildings would remain empty and unused the rest of the year. I am sure you would agree that this would be a horrible waste of capital and whoever suggests it should be fired.
Oh and to respond to your best buy analogy, I just want to let you know that there are a TON of reports out there about customers grabbing items out of the carts of other customers on Black Friday, so yes it does happen.
Point is, you are frustrated that you didn't get one, this is understandable. But you got greedy and got burned. Sucks, but there it is.
No.. this isn't actually a post about the Prime's problems... it's actually about how companies handle things when they screw up. A lot of people here seemed genuinely grateful for what Asus did postfacto... I'm not one of them because my bar is set higher. I expect more from the companies I buy from - well, when it's a $500 tablet anyway.
Here's an example of where the bar SHOULD be set.
A month or so ago, Google announced the Q - basically their version of the Roku or the AppleTV. Thing is, while it's innovative design, it kind of sucked at being an actual Internet appliance. Google admitted the Q was shipped too soon and had significant problems. They halted production.. and here's the kicker - everyone will get a free replacement. They don't even have to return the original. And if you preordered and haven't gotten yours, you get a free one.
Here's the letter they sent out:
We have an important update about your Nexus Q pre-order.
When we announced Nexus Q at Google I/O, we gave away devices to attendees for an early preview. The industrial design and hardware were met with great enthusiasm. We also heard initial feedback from users that they want Nexus Q to do even more than it does today. In response, we have decided to postpone the consumer launch of Nexus Q while we work on making it even better.
To thank you for your early interest, we'd like to extend the Nexus Q preview to our pre-order customers and send you a free device. If you had other items in your order, your credit card will be charged for those items only.
Your Nexus Q will be on its way soon and you will receive a notification and tracking number from Google Play when it ships.
The Nexus Q Team
So, they're giving away free replacements for everyone who has one - who got them for FREE... and everyone who preordered... also gets one for free.
They certainly didn't need to do this. Most people understood that the problems with the Q were relatively minor and most could be fixed with software upgrades... not to mention, the people who got theirs at Google IO didn't actually pay for them. Not an issue - not even a discussion point - Google wants to make sure you stay loyal and stick with them. Anything to make the customer happy. No attempt to try and gloss over the problem or shirk responsibility.
THAT'S customer service, amigos. No screwing around with buckshee hacks. No 'we didn't mean it when we said you have a GPS..'
That's the bar we should set and demand.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/31/3207482/nexus-q-consumer-launch-delayed
PS: You'll notice I'm here telling you how great Google is rather than being out there telling others how great Asus is? That's why it's important to encourage customer loyalty... And I don't even HAVE a Q (not available in this country).
TheWerewolf said:
Nice story about google giving away expensive devices for free...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To be fair to ASUS, Google is a $207Billion company with almost $40B a year in revenue. The future of the company is hardly riding on them making a profit on their Nexus Q, heck it could be that no one's job is even riding on it given their business situation. Asus on the other hand is like a $6B company in US funds. Google could absorb financial hits that would completely BK or force massive layoffs at many other companies (like ASUS) without blinking. I think ASUS blew it with their QA on recent units but they have made some effort to try to set things right.
You can demand and expect completely-out-of-touch-with-the-rest-of-the-industry replacement/recall policies but you'll probably disappointed most of your life. Even mighty Apple told people they were holding their phones wrong when Antennagate hit. It probably makes more sense to learn your lesson and just move on.
To be honest, I think the world has enough/too many $100B+ companies already.
TheWerewolf said:
No.. this isn't actually a post about the Prime's problems... it's actually about how companies handle things when they screw up. A lot of people here seemed genuinely grateful for what Asus did postfacto... I'm not one of them because my bar is set higher. I expect more from the companies I buy from - well, when it's a $500 tablet anyway.
Here's an example of where the bar SHOULD be set.
A month or so ago, Google announced the Q - basically their version of the Roku or the AppleTV. Thing is, while it's innovative design, it kind of sucked at being an actual Internet appliance. Google admitted the Q was shipped too soon and had significant problems. They halted production.. and here's the kicker - everyone will get a free replacement. They don't even have to return the original. And if you preordered and haven't gotten yours, you get a free one.
Here's the letter they sent out:
We have an important update about your Nexus Q pre-order.
When we announced Nexus Q at Google I/O, we gave away devices to attendees for an early preview. The industrial design and hardware were met with great enthusiasm. We also heard initial feedback from users that they want Nexus Q to do even more than it does today. In response, we have decided to postpone the consumer launch of Nexus Q while we work on making it even better.
To thank you for your early interest, we'd like to extend the Nexus Q preview to our pre-order customers and send you a free device. If you had other items in your order, your credit card will be charged for those items only.
Your Nexus Q will be on its way soon and you will receive a notification and tracking number from Google Play when it ships.
The Nexus Q Team
So, they're giving away free replacements for everyone who has one - who got them for FREE... and everyone who preordered... also gets one for free.
They certainly didn't need to do this. Most people understood that the problems with the Q were relatively minor and most could be fixed with software upgrades... not to mention, the people who got theirs at Google IO didn't actually pay for them. Not an issue - not even a discussion point - Google wants to make sure you stay loyal and stick with them. Anything to make the customer happy. No attempt to try and gloss over the problem or shirk responsibility.
THAT'S customer service, amigos. No screwing around with buckshee hacks. No 'we didn't mean it when we said you have a GPS..'
That's the bar we should set and demand.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/31/3207482/nexus-q-consumer-launch-delayed
PS: You'll notice I'm here telling you how great Google is rather than being out there telling others how great Asus is? That's why it's important to encourage customer loyalty... And I don't even HAVE a Q (not available in this country).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well said! In my opinion they would gain a stronger customer base.
zenaxe said:
To be fair to ASUS, Google is a $207Billion company with almost $40B a year in revenue. The future of the company is hardly riding on them making a profit on their Nexus Q, heck it could be that no one's job is even riding on it given their business situation. Asus on the other hand is like a $6B company in US funds. Google could absorb financial hits that would completely BK or force massive layoffs at many other companies (like ASUS) without blinking. I think ASUS blew it with their QA on recent units but they have made some effort to try to set things right.
You can demand and expect completely-out-of-touch-with-the-rest-of-the-industry replacement/recall policies but you'll probably disappointed most of your life. Even mighty Apple told people they were holding their phones wrong when Antennagate hit. It probably makes more sense to learn your lesson and just move on.
To be honest, I think the world has enough/too many $100B+ companies already.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I would never expect a smaller company like ASUS to be able to do something like this. But, the Prime really is such a mess in my eyes that it would take something drastic to get me to buy another ASUS product. When you have a seemingly pretty faulty device combined with the absolute horrid customer support (19 days now they've had mine, still waiting for parts) you lose me as a customer. Granted, I also have a faulty ASUS motherboard in my computer, so I have another reason to never buy from them again since that's 2 for 2 of the ASUS products I've ever owned having issues.
If things are better on the Infinity as far as GPS, wifi, blu tooth, build quality (like rear cameras not breaking), then ASUS should just bite the bullet and kill the TF201 and give at least early adopters a trade in. That's what it would take to make me happy, and even then they would still have a huge problem with their repair service. But, at least I would have a better chance of not ever having to deal with them.
This would never happen with Asus not because of money but simply because they don't give a f*ck about their customers.
wifesabitch said:
This would never happen with Asus not because of money but simply because they don't give a f*ck about their customers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's honestly how I feel, and I feel that way 100% because of their terrible customer support. I understand things go wrong especially in this fairly new market of Android tablets. That's the time for your customer service to shine. Instead, they show us how much they care about us by having the worst service I've ever heard of.
ASUS Customer service in not. They could give a rat ask about problems with the Prime.
It is not a matter of how big Google is versus Asus. It is simply doing what is right. The Prime is junk. Asus knows it is junk. Fix it, or replace it.
We paid $500 for this tablet and anyone with any common sense would expect value for their money.
I am wondering if there is a need for a dedicated 'Google Play Store' forum, and would like to see what the opinion of other users is.
The basis of my suggestion is as follows:
I have, over the last 4 years or so, purchased upwards of 200 apps, and of those 200 apps, 20% I use on a daily basis, 30% are just outdated and I have moved on and up, but there is nothing wrong with them..... but perhaps 50% are apps that I paid for and am disappointed with because they are just not 'fit for use' or the developer stopped updating what was already a buggy app.
15 minutes to fully test out an app for bugs and incompatibility is just not long enough, and there is no assurances that the developer will fulfill their promises of evolving, updating and fixing bugs that do appear.
A perfect example would be SPB Shell, $15 / £10 and a complete waste of money - enticing at the time, but immediately abandoned by the developer as the money rolled in, and those that had purchased it, where left flogging a dead horse. The developer had a standard response to the google play review complaints, saying they would pass complaints, bugs and suggestions to the developer, but nothing ever happened and SPB are laughing all the way to the bank!
Individually, an app is only a few $'s/£'s and we think "so what"..... but add all those up, and suddenly its a great deal of money!
I believe that 'Google Play Store' have a legal obligation when selling a product, no differently to a high street shop selling a television, in that, the public do not deal with the television manufacturer when there is a problem, and that the shop must respond to public concerns if a manufacturer is getting that shop to sell products 'not fit for use'
XDA has a huge influence on public opinion with its reviews, advice and membership evaluations of products and services, and I think Google Play and their app suppliers should be held accountable in a dedicated forum - reviews, issues, bugs.... the good, 'pat and clap'..... and the bad - "name and shame"
For each new thread, the developer is e-mailed and invited to join in the conversation for both encouragement and to be part of any resolution process - and whether they participate or not, can be taken as a reflection of their efforts and sincerity to their customers .... and we may reach a day where, like with SPB Shell, if there is enough of us, we could proceed with a 'class-action' that legally obliges Google to refund money for products that have failed to meet a required standard, or a written statement or promise from the developer on their 'play store' app sales page that has not been fulfilled, and that sets a new precedent for android user's and the spending of their hard earned money.
Whats everyone else's opinion?
Whenever my automated system finds an Android App Review online it sends an email to the developer telling the link to the review.
Each day I get between 5 - 10 thank you mails from both large app companies and indie developers, which I guess is a good indicator that it's a great tool in order to be able to take advantage of the review in their marketing. (I know how hard it is to be seen with a good app)
The question is, how do I monetize that service?
You have to pardon me if I sound desperate, but I actually am desperate and starting to worry about my ability to provide for my family.
Do you have an idea on how I could either monetize the service, or give it away to someone who can actually afford running it?
There are three main problems with it:
- Donations doesn't work (noone evidently donates anyway, so that went down the drain)
- Advertising, might have worked but there are far too few visitors.
- Most dev's have an invalid email address specified for their account at google play, which makes them not receive the notice from the service,
They can however subscribe for reviews of a certain package name, but how the heck could they when they don't even know the service exists?
I feel so stupid for having these great ideas and realize them, just to later find out that the only thing I've gained is more time away from my kids. I am honestly starting to loose all energy for the creation process of apps, web sites and services, just due to the fact that I can't even reach out enough to make anything out of it. And I can't afford advertising the services/apps/whatever crap I've made. Which even might be an indicator that I should stop trying, but I can't really do that either since I struggle to even afford the food for the month, yeah it's gotten that bad, and I hate sounding this pathetic.
Anyway, the link is in my sig called something like 'Android App Reviews' if you wish to have a look in order to give feedback on my question.
Maybe it's just a bad day 'cause I'm not usually this whiny, but even on a good day, the question stands.
Ah.. whatever. You have a good idea, let me know.
Later
very nice idea, perhaps most of your emails mistakenly get weeded out as SPAM. I have an APP published on Google Play with our company gmail address there, but in more than one ocasion we had people trying to contact us and those emails got to the SPAM folder automaticly by mistake and we never saw them.
DarknessWarrior said:
very nice idea, perhaps most of your emails mistakenly get weeded out as SPAM. I have an APP published on Google Play with our company gmail address there, but in more than one ocasion we had people trying to contact us and those emails got to the SPAM folder automaticly by mistake and we never saw them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, actually I was very glad myself when I got an email from my own service once, so yeah I think it's a great idea also.
So yes, one problem is, as you mention that most emails probably ends up marked as spam.
The other problem is money, it's running in a very low priced environment and actually doesn't require much juice to run but I can't afford maintaining it if it doesn't generate enough income to even support itself.
I would consider running it for nothing and I could even spend some personal money just for the satisfaction and appreciation, but given the gravity of the current financial situation in my family I can't do that.
So let's just see what happens, and thanks for taking the time to read.
Cheers
have you tried selling it? For about how much would you be willing to sell it? As i said the idea is pretty awesome and you got it pretty much nailed down. Perhaps with a few tweaks to the search algorithm it could be the next Google for Apps!
have you tried selling it? For about how much would you be willing to sell it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
- Actually, no I haven't tried selling it yet as I don't have any experience selling these kinds of things, and don't really know where to turn.. So I haven't really thought of for how much I should sell it for,
what do you think something like this could be worth?
Thanks again
Actually i have no idea loool
I would buy it if I had the means.
The value of it probably based on how many views does your site has per day, how many apps does it have categorized, how many it crawls per day... idk.
For example i tried searching it and it seems to have few apps catalogued... my app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rtt3ch.suecaonline) isn't there.
EDIT: About how much do you spend on it a month? If it's not much and you're willing to give it away because can't afford it I wouldn't mind getting it lol, i think i can keep it alive.
If you want to generate income from your site, you have to run your site like a business. The ideas you have in your first post are too linear, especially for a small website with limited exposure (i'm sure you'll know ). Websites and youtube channels grow in exposure and size exponentially. Your site is still in the growth state of a business life cycle (the slowest, most challenging phase of business), so it's best to get as much exposure as possible, which means expanding.
- Try to create some sort of quasi-partnerships with other sites by sharing content or linking to each other. I've noticed you have some links on the side of your site, but try to get in contact with 'bigger names' out there
- Create a youtube channel and start reviewing apps like that. That way you have another avenue of traffic to your site
- Reviews of products may also be an idea.
Hope this helps It's what I can remember from business studies classes >.<
sup MetalDroid, any news?
I'd go with what SammiSaysHello said, you need to run it like a business. Personally I'd make the homepage look more like a professional a sales page and introduce a subscription fee if you want to use it for more then one app. Or even a one time fee for more then one app. I end up logging onto my developer console several times a day so I'd gladly pay a couple bucks a month to have the reviews sent straight to my inbox.. Just my two cents
Hey!
Sorry for not posting an update, I've been having the mother of all flues on and off for the past several weeks now!
sup MetalDroid, any news?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, actually yes. The associated twitter account is growing, and the number of web page visitors is also increasing. Very slowly but I'm still positive about it. I've also, shockingly, had a few interesting partnership/business proposals drop down in my mailbox, so I'm gonna have a look to see what is offered there..
If you want to generate income from your site, you have to run your site like a business.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd go with what SammiSaysHello said, you need to run it like a business
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're right, that seems like a logical next step. I might add a low subscription fee if you wish to use for more than one app,
that seems like a very good suggestion, I'll have to wait a couple of days though to see how things turn out from some of the email proposals
I've had.
If you're interested I'll keep you updated on what happens, and I'm very grateful for your input,
Cheers