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Hey all,
So I just purchased Titanium Backup Pro and was wondering if it was possible to restore apps through CWM, or maybe have Titanium Backup as a root app, so that way when I boot up from a fresh wipe, I'll have all my apps available.
Dumb question time: after wiping and going through the first-time setup screen, when it asks you for your google account, should I uncheck the "restore from google account"? If I don't, it'll automatically start downloading all my apps from the market, thus defeating the purpose of Titanium Backup.
Thanks!
Not entirely a waste. See the root is what makes it amazing.
Lets say you have your inbox that had messages of personal keep, Wife? Gf? or possibly both LOL, those data are saved in root folders, TB Root version tends to back up all of this data, every single message from every person, when you reformat the tablet you obviously lose all your data, but TB Root can restore the data, this includes save games, or memo's, settings, alarm setups,contacts too.
You don't really need to uncheck as you can stop it by tapping the X when you open market to stop all the downloads in general, or just turn the Wifi off LOL.
Also you can't really boot with all apps after a fresh wipe, It's like going for surgery to remove a scar only to have it back again LOL. You will need to re-install TB from market (as all apps will be wiped too, since you purchased it it will just redownload it properly) then you can restore it. Normally it saves under sdcard/TitaniumBackup
As for apps via CWM, that's how they install apps with Custom ROM's but it's not advisable since most apps that get forced into system/app don't always get updated, you need something like market doctor in TB to relink it to market so it updates again.
Thanks for the reply!
So what's your recommendation when re-starting after a fresh wipe? I hate waiting hours for all my apps to re-download from Market/Play, as I'm sure many others do, and I'm sure people have come up with far easier/quicker solutions. This is why I bought Titanium Backup, as I thought it was supposed to fix that problem.
Sorry for being a total n00b here.
That's the thing, after a wipe (Factory reset) you download TB from the market, it should already be there for you to download, as per the backup's are saved on your internal drive, as soon as you launch TB *Make sure the tablet is rooted after a wipe check as TB will mention it for you* after which you go to Menu->Batch->Restore "User apps and missing data" and it will show all the apps that you have installed, I would insist not to restore system apps as they would replace the system apps and you may get FC errors.
However when you are done restoring User apps, you can go to the restore tab, and tap on certain "System apps" these can be identified as apps with a red name/smiley, For example Tribuchet.apk is the launcher for ICS 10.1, if you tap it, and press "Restore Data Only" then it will restore the layout on how you had set up your desktop to be.
http://matrixrewriter.com/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=TB+-+User's+guide This guide is pretty nifty for TB user's who first start out.
PS: Make sure when you back up your stuff, that you backup both system and user apps, that way you can always be sure you didn't lose anything important
How exactly would you make a zip if you wanted to restore apps via cwm?
I have installed SuperNexus JB 4.1.1. published by Faryaab (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810042)
I did wipe/factory reset data.
I have taken backup of all USER apps+data with Titanium backup.
when I opened Titanium backup, I got the message that your device's android ID has been changed!
What is the importance of this ID? I am having trouble with restoring apps using Titanium backup.
I can reinstall apps by going in to Titaniumbackup Folder in the sdcard and click on the file manually.
anyone ?
I tried searching about this on internet but couldn't find the right info.
any help ?
andoxj said:
I have installed SuperNexus JB 4.1.1. published by Faryaab (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810042)
I did wipe/factory reset data.
I have taken backup of all USER apps+data with Titanium backup.
when I opened Titanium backup, I got the message that your device's android ID has been changed!
What is the importance of this ID? I am having trouble with restoring apps using Titanium backup.
I can reinstall apps by going in to Titaniumbackup Folder in the sdcard and click on the file manually.
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u can keep ur old id or can change to new id, its up to you as some developers use android id as a way to ensure you're you in some way that isn't as douchey as asking for your hardware id numbers like IMEI or MEID. It's also the way Google recommends to developers for determining who is who for whatever reason. It normally gets reset every time you flash a new ROM or go back to stock.
if u will change ur id ur phone will restart and ur device will have new id although u can keep ur old id too ... no issues there.
Ten Easy Steps for TiBu success:
1. Open TiBu.
2. Menu > Preferences > App processing mode > AUTO Direct (Should be this by default anyway)
3. Create your backup: Hit the Batch button to the top-right on your screen (the one with a checkmark). Hit “Backup all user apps” and click the green checkmark up top on the next screen. When getting ready for future wipes and ROM flashes, you are going to scroll down and just hit “Backup new user apps & newer app versions”, followed by “Redo backups for modified data”... This will update all those saved games and other info that has changed since the last time you backed it up. Do not backup or restore system data.
Note: While not required.. its a great idea to periodically move all of your backups to your computer for safekeeping. When connecting to your computer you will find a /TitaniumBackup directory on your internal storage. Go ahead and just copy the entire folder over to a safe spot on your computer, and update it from time to time. You never know when you that might come in handy!
4. TiBu now lets you backup and restore your call logs, SMS messages, and browser bookmarks (stock browser only).. How sweet is that?! On the main screen hit Menu > Backup data to XML and choose what you would like to backup if you please.
5. Now we're going to make an update.zip.. This is an awesome feature that gives you a file to flash after your ROM, so that when you boot up you will have TiBu already installed and ready to restore all your apps! Menu > Create "update.zip". The only thing you want to change here is under "Titanium Backup will be installed as:" Select "System application". You can change the name of the output file if you like, I just leave it as update.zip for simplicity. Hit your green checkmark up top and you are good to go.
TIP: Remember to create a new update.zip before your next ROM flash if TiBu has been updated at all since then.. which it probably has if its been a while, the developer updates things a lot!
6. Boot to recovery.. flash your ROM and Gapps (if needed). Now Mount the System, then install the TiBu update.zip we just created. Now... reboot.
7. Skip the initial device setup screen. This can be done by quickly tapping the top-left, top-right, bottom-right, and bottom-left corners of the screen in that order. Or you can just skip through everything without entering your Google account info.
8. Launch TiBu and do Batch > Restore missing apps with data. Now here's the important part.. hit Deselect all. Go through the list and manually select the apps you want to restore with data. You can do it safely for MOST user apps: games, utility apps, etc. But do NOT restore data to any Google apps, and try to avoid it for any apps which actively sync often or create accounts in your phone setup. Can you get away with some of these things sometimes? Maybe.. but just don't take the risk. Restoring any bad data you shouldn't could mean you'll have to re-wipe and start all over again. Once you're done selecting, hit the green checkmark to start the restore.
9. Now run through that last step again... This time after hitting Deselect all, hit App only. Now you can select the apps you are going to restore without data. You can do this for just about anything, including your google apps. Its the same as installing them normally.. TiBu will just do it for you in one quick batch job. Afterwards you can do a Menu > Restore data from XML and restore any the call logs and SMS data we backed up earlier as well.
10. Reboot. Go to Settings > Accounts > Add your Google account and set up your phone again. You can take it from here
After I boot from a clean flash I open TiBu and the first thing it does is ask if I want to restore the previous ID...
Great!
Thanks for the detailed description !
I haven't bought the PRO version of TiBu, so I will not be changing the device ID.
Previously, I haven't created the update.zip so I will not be able to restore my previous user app+data too from TiBu.
I should have copied the Titaniumbackup directory to my laptop
Though, I was able to restore SMS and most of my user apps from the TitanumBackup directory, by clicking on the files directly, except the Market links. When I open TiBu, some of the apps doesn't have the market link. But in the Google Play-> My apps, all of my installed apps appear in the "INSTALLED" list.
The first time I flashed a ROM on my phone, google automatically re-installed all the apps I had installed at the time of the flast. I think it also restored many settings and preferences. The last two times I have flashed, none of this happened.
I have made sure the backup option is turned on under "backup & reset" and made sure my gmail account was selected.
Also, I thought HTC was supposed to backup my texts and call history? Is this not automatic and done over wifi or does this have to be done through HTC sync manager on a PC?
Thanks for the help.
I have had quite a few people ask me recently what to do when they change ROMs. What do I back up? How do I back up? etc. So it got me thinking, what does everyone do to back up and restore after installing a new ROM? Here is my list:
1. Titanium back up: back up a few programs that don't really update often or don't come from the GPlay
2. SMS Backup and Restore: self explanatory
3. Usually have a ROM that has a boot to recovery option in the power menu but when I don't I get a quick download of Quick Boot. Yeah I'm too lazy to power off and then push power and vol up.
4. MAKE A BACKUP in TWRP (my recovery of choice)
5. Wipe (A couple times if I am feeling particularly dirty) Factory reset is what I usually use. But always follow the developer install instructions to be safe.
6. For AOSP ROMs install the ROM of the week, add in the GApps and flash them both. For stock ROMs you don't flash GApps. Read the installation instructions to make sure which type of ROM you have.
7. Reboot system
8. Go through google setup (wifi, gmail acct ect)
9. Let G Play install all my apps
10. Go into Esfile explorer (my file manager of choice) and install any new apk or anything I didn't backup with titanium
11. Go into Titanium Backup and restore selected apps/games. At this point I am only really restoring settings.
12. Restore sms with SMS Backup and Restore
13. Realize that the new ROM doesn't have Straight Talk APN included and enter in all the APN info (considering using APN Backup and Restore)
14. Go through settings and toggle switches and buttons to make the phone how I like it. I really do wish there was a cross ROM backup that would allow me to save pie settings etc. since that seems like what I spend the most time with.
15. Go on XDA and thank ROM Dev for his hard work and let him know of any wonkiness in hopes that I can help.
Yup, thats pretty much what I do. Hopefully this has helped a few of you and I hope that others will chime in on what they do so maybe I can streamline my process.
Steps 5-7, I would omit and just say, "follow instruction provided by the developer found in the roms OP". Especially, since step 6 could be wrong for some roms.
Joecascio2000 said:
Steps 5-7, I would omit and just say, "follow instruction provided by the developer found in the roms OP". Especially, since step 6 could be wrong for some roms.
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Quite right on step six. I haven't been on a stock rom in a long time. Good catch.
I think I'll revise step 5 as well. As for 7 does everyone else clear cache after installation or is it just me?
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I only use Titanium Backup to restore app data and settings (it also backs up APNs, SMS, and call history). To archive my apps, I use App Backup and Restore (free), since it has batch restore without paying. It only backs up apps, not data. I also have Android's native backup enabled, but it doesn't seem to store anything other than WiFi passwords for me.
When installing a new ROM, I wipe data, cache, and dalvik-cache (even though it seems redundant to me, I do this for good measure). Once the ROM is flashed, booted, and logged in, I open the Play Store and let it install apps automatically. Then I open App Backup and Restore to restore any apps that either aren't in the Play Store or didn't install automatically (if you're on mobile data, you might want to solely use App Backup and Restore to restore your apps). Then once everything's installed, I batch restore data only with Titanium Backup so I don't have to click through the installer prompts for each app. Just watch what data you restore, since some system data (like settings) isn't compatible between ROMs.
My workflow in step form:
1. Take screenshots of all desktops, folders, app drawer, and notification drawer (for power widget layout)
2. Run Titanium Backup to batch backup apps and data: Titanium Backup -> Menu button -> Batch actions -> Backup all user apps + system data -> Run -> Select All -> uncheck all red (system) apps, Google Play Services, and any apps for which I don't need data backed up. (I recheck some red apps, like News & Weather and Trickster MOD, but usually restoring these can cause issues. Only restore these if you know what you're doing)
3. Run App Backup and Restore to backup APKs for installed apps: Tap select all (check mark in the bottom right), then backup
4. Force Google sync to make sure contacts and calendar are up to date: Settings -> Google -> Menu button -> Sync now
5. In recovery (TWRP), wipe data, cache and dalvik cache
6. Flash ROM, Google Apps, and Genie Widget (for the stock News & Weather widget)
7. Sign in to my Google Account
8. (If you have concerns about data usage, skip this step) Open the Play Store and let it download (this can take a while, check under Menu -> My apps to see when the install queue is finished)
9. Open App Backup and Restore, click the Archived tab, select all (check mark), and hit restore
10. Open Titanium Backup, and batch restore all apps with data, selecting all first. (NOTE: If you set Titanium Backup to restore to external SD card instead of internal storage, you need to go to preferences and change your backup location (for me it was /storage/sdcard1/TitaniumBackup). The detect feature worked for me using the "Whole device" option.)
11. Restart your phone.
12. If something seems off with your launcher but you can't put your finger on it, check it against your screenshots.
ecaslak said:
I only use Titanium Backup to restore app data and settings (it also backs up APNs, SMS, and call history). .
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Really? Dang I need to look into that. Thanks for the heads up
Is Phone/messaging storage the one to back up?
Just to be sure, that only backs up settings and not sent/received texts right?
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newbk said:
Really? Dang I need to look into that. Thanks for the heads up
Is Phone/messaging storage the one to back up?
Just to be sure, that only backs up settings and not sent/received texts right?
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That looks like the one! I had that checked, and all of my messages and my custom APNs (Net10, T-Mobile USA, and Orange UK) were saved.
When I had my iPhone, I can do iTunes backup to my Mac and when I have a new iPhone, I can do restore of the apps and data from the previous iPhone. It restore everything, including apps, the apps data, email configuration, etc.
For Android, there is "Backup My Data" under Settings --> Accounts. Does this do the same thing as the above?
For example, I tried to do this:
1). Check "Backup My Data"
2). Associate this with one of my Gmail account
3). Get a new Android phone and... I don't see "Restore" in the same Settings.
I DO see the settings to Backup My Data in the new Android phone, but I am afraid if I checked this, it will overwrite the data in Google's server
I am trying to figure out if Backup My Data can re-download all the apps installed in the older device, including the apps data. I don't care about email or contacts, since those are synced to my Gmail accounts.
lanwarrior said:
When I had my iPhone, I can do iTunes backup to my Mac and when I have a new iPhone, I can do restore of the apps and data from the previous iPhone. It restore everything, including apps, the apps data, email configuration, etc.
For Android, there is "Backup My Data" under Settings --> Accounts. Does this do the same thing as the above?
For example, I tried to do this:
1). Check "Backup My Data"
2). Associate this with one of my Gmail account
3). Get a new Android phone and... I don't see "Restore" in the same Settings.
I DO see the settings to Backup My Data in the new Android phone, but I am afraid if I checked this, it will overwrite the data in Google's server
I am trying to figure out if Backup My Data can re-download all the apps installed in the older device, including the apps data. I don't care about email or contacts, since those are synced to my Gmail accounts.
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Backup and restore works by backing up which apps you've installed, contacts, etc and, when you get a new phone, it will restore these items back. During a new phone booting on, fresh ROM, the setup allows the user to restore from Google account that you backed up to it. IT happens also when you flash new ROMs as well during setup. The backup function allows, before getting a new phone to backup and then restore in new phone during setup. The apps however will need to be reset to custom settings because the phone will redownload them from play store yet will not have any of the settings you previously did.
RevelationOmega said:
The apps however will need to be reset to custom settings because the phone will redownload them from play store yet will not have any of the settings you previously did.
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Ah, that's key. That means I have to redo ALL the settings in each app again. I was hoping Google backup will restore individual app settings AND data, as described in my 1st post. In Settings --> Accounts --> Google account, I have the "Sync App Data" checked, but I guess it's not doing anything to backup app settings and data.
OK, I guess I have to use Titanium Backup or Helium instead. With Helium, once I installed an app (whether it's Playstore or Amazon's Appstore), I can restore the data and it works exactly as it was in the old device.
lanwarrior said:
Ah, that's key. That means I have to redo ALL the settings in each app again. I was hoping Google backup will restore individual app settings AND data, as described in my 1st post. In Settings --> Accounts --> Google account, I have the "Sync App Data" checked, but I guess it's not doing anything to backup app settings and data.
OK, I guess I have to use Titanium Backup or Helium instead. With Helium, once I installed an app (whether it's Playstore or Amazon's Appstore), I can restore the data and it works exactly as it was in the old device.
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Yes, a custom backup (ie Titanium or Helium) backup your data from the apps. Google just contacts, etc for minimal restore from one device to next. One of those or related should work because they make an extractable file you can drag/drop from one phone to the next and be able to restore very well. Helium may be the better way to go. Ran into problems recently with Titanium since 4.4 but may be fixed by now.
does anyone else have the problem when installing a new ROM that Google doesn't restore the apps? I have had this problem nearly every time I have installed a new ROM, and eventually have to end up restoring (which is a total PITA.) I often wonder if I am missing something, as this drives me completely nucking futs.