Hi
I have a pretty serious problem with the battery life on my tg01! I've read the other threads here and at Modaco on the battery problems but thought I'd raise it again. I have a mugen battery now (1100) but am barely getting a couple of hours use. The battery indicator gets stuck and can go from 100% to 40 suddenly, before a few minutes later switching off. I have the original wm 6.1 rom and spb mobile shell 3.5, but the problem was there still when that was uninstalled. I can leave it charging overnight and the battery can suddenly drop and be dead in a few hours.
I'd have thought mugen battery, although only a 1100 one would have made the difference, but there's something definitely wrong because it should not be that bad!!!
What do you suggest is the best thing to do?? Will a different rom definitely solve it? or will it be down to one of the numerous programs I've installed? Or something else? A faulty phone?? It's a problem others definitely have, but is there a single working solution??
cheers!!
as far as i know battery life is a problem with all tg01's, atleast i have the same problem. the huge screen takes alot of power, add 3g or wifi and your phones going to be dead within 2 hours ! one way to overcome this is to make sure you disable data connections when not needed and reduce the backlight settings. i've been able to get over 24 hours using this method but if you want longer life the only real solution im aware of is to get the 2600 mugen battery.
EDIT: I should also mention sense and other memory hungry apps ie opera will effect battery life greatly, infact i find if i use sense my phone can be dead within 8 hours and thats with minimal useage. Constant use of opera will have the phone drained in a matter of an hour and a half.
As for a rom solving it, i dont really think its tied to a rom in anyway but you may want to try noskers rom - i find this one to be the most stable and battery life definately seems longer but i may be imagining that !
Get Task Manager, go to tab "Devices" and stop device "BAT1". Battery indicator will not work, but you can use tg01 till battery fully discharge. After power off (there will be no "shutting down" screen) plug charger immediately.
By this you will use all the capacity of battery, so you can determine if it's battery problem or tg01 battery level measuring circuit.
I've heard about battdrvr.dll modifications for other PPCs to use with higher capacity batteries, but couldn't find anything for tg01.
What Power Saving Settings do you use?
maciek90 said:
Get Task Manager, go to tab "Devices" and stop device "BAT1". Battery indicator will not work, but you can use tg01 till battery fully discharge. After power off (there will be no "shutting down" screen) plug charger immediately.
By this you will use all the capacity of battery, so you can determine if it's battery problem or tg01 battery level measuring circuit.
I've heard about battdrvr.dll modifications for other PPCs to use with higher capacity batteries, but couldn't find anything for tg01.
What Power Saving Settings do you use?
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will try that definitely. it happens with the new mugen battery too however.
The Power Saving Settings I use are CPU medium (have tried low and high too), limit CPU speed for battery (tried on and off options) Wifi power consumption, restrict sleep mode OFF, Enable Wifi during sleep mode to OFF, backlight very low. Adjust backlight automatically OFF, 30 seconds backlight timer, 1 minute device sleep timer.
I am guessing there is a rogue program using up the CPU constantly running down the battery. Have you tried a hard reset? (probably a good idea to upgrade the ROM while your at it )
Well I've tried disabling the battery device in task manager. I'm not sure that made a difference, but at least I wasn't able to see the meter jump around..
a hard reset may well sort it, and may end up doing that. I can't see any high intensity CPU programs. anything else? will google latitude suck up the battery this quick?
One other thing which has started recently, which may persuade me to hard reset is that the blue led light flashes long after an sms has arrived. a soft reset stops this, but it will start again when another sms comes through. I've tried one such notification reset program on this forum but its made no difference.
what can be done to stop this?
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I should really have considered another post really called niggles I need to sort out on my TG01.
But how can I stop the screen going off immediately when a call comes in? I'd rather it waits say 10 secs then go off. the options in pocket toolman do not seem to work. I need the screen on a bit because often I switch to speaker straight away.
When I plug the charger in the TG01 the battery will charge up to 100%. The charging process will then stop (orange light turns off and never goes on again).
If my backlight or wifi is turned on, or anything else is running, the battery will start draining back down, but the charging process will not re-start. The battery will display 100% full as it might somehow detect the charger is plugged-in (?).
When I start using it, although the battery might have drained down to 40%, it will show 100% then suddenly jump to show the actual battery level.
I used to charge it overnight with backlight at full level and it would go from 100% to 0% after using it for a minute or two in the morning. I couldn't turn the device back on, even with charger plugged back in because the battery was so empty.
The trick is to turn off the backlight / wifi when it's done charging, or if you charge overnight, turn it completely off so it doesn't drain the battery when it's done charging.
hope this helps
bdarras said:
When I plug the charger in the TG01 the battery will charge up to 100%. The charging process will then stop (orange light turns off and never goes on again).
If my backlight or wifi is turned on, or anything else is running, the battery will start draining back down, but the charging process will not re-start. The battery will display 100% full as it might somehow detect the charger is plugged-in (?).
When I start using it, although the battery might have drained down to 40%, it will show 100% then suddenly jump to show the actual battery level.
I used to charge it overnight with backlight at full level and it would go from 100% to 0% after using it for a minute or two in the morning. I couldn't turn the device back on, even with charger plugged back in because the battery was so empty.
The trick is to turn off the backlight / wifi when it's done charging, or if you charge overnight, turn it completely off so it doesn't drain the battery when it's done charging.
hope this helps
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This is not true. When the battery charges up fully, the orange charging light is extinguished to let you know it has finished charging, however the battery is still supplied with power to keep it fully charged. I know this because I use GPS alot on the phone and when it's fully charged using the car charger, it will still be 100%.
Try hard resetting your phone too. If it doesn't work, then there is something wrong with your phone!
Well it's bizzarre... the battery meter on the tg01 is certainly pretty dodgy.
with the flashing leds, what does anyone suggest? is there a way to change the led notifications back to default?
And regarding the screen going off immediately when a call comes in, it looks like there's no fix - similar threads still have no answer, unless anyone has more suggestions?
Update: I have done a full hard reset and a wm6.5 upgrade but the battery issues are still here. Has everyone who has had this issue taken it back to orange? It barely lasts 5 hours the battery.
Anything else at all to suggest???
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This is not true. When the battery charges up fully, the orange charging light is extinguished to let you know it has finished charging, however the battery is still supplied with power to keep it fully charged. I know this because I use GPS alot on the phone and when it's fully charged using the car charger, it will still be 100%.
Try hard resetting your phone too. If it doesn't work, then there is something wrong with your phone!
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I stand corrected.
While this was true before and had tested a few times with two different TG01 both with Orange UK stock ROM, I have retested it now and it does not happen anymore, but I have flashed a new ROM...
Apologies for the confusion.
Hi all
I was reading this thread and preferred to add my 'query' here rather than start a new one.
My TG01 has an original WM 6.5 rom minus the SPB Shell. I haven't experiences any negative experiences yet except for the fact that I have often heard about charging the battery for 8 hours etc and charging it with phone off which I always do except on few occasions I connect with USB cable to my pc /laptop...in my case I will charge my set with the toshiba wall charger that came with the set and orange LED will illuminate a few seconds after charger is plugged-in..from there onwards the orange LED will stay illuminated for maximum 3 to 4 hours and then will turn-off. I am not having any battery problems except for the usual battery drain depending on usage and apps but nothing unusual.
I'd like to know if this is normal? Is anybody else experiencing this? Not charging more than 3 to 4 hours (orange LED turning off after 3 to 4 hours).
I would appreciate some help on this 'doubt'
Thanks
I think it's problem with driver and charging akku. I have custom rom with 6.5.5
and when i charge my akku when it is on 20 % after 20-30 min shows me that 90 % full... After 1 1/2 hour akku full charged.
Greets ALcAtRas
maciek90 said:
Get Task Manager, go to tab "Devices" and stop device "BAT1". Battery indicator will not work, but you can use tg01 till battery fully discharge. After power off (there will be no "shutting down" screen) plug charger immediately.
By this you will use all the capacity of battery, so you can determine if it's battery problem or tg01 battery level measuring circuit.
I've heard about battdrvr.dll modifications for other PPCs to use with higher capacity batteries, but couldn't find anything for tg01.
What Power Saving Settings do you use?
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is this a solution to the 20% wifi problem?
olyloh6696 said:
is this a solution to the 20% wifi problem?
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Well. it's not the solution, but this procedure can be a useful roundabout to access to wifi, or allow you to take a vital picture when you really need it and your battery is under 20% charge.
Imagine that you must send urgently a picture and you can't do it because someone from Toshiba decided this stupid limitation when you are at the end of the battery life.. following the maciek90's procedure, you can save this limitation and drain your battery up to the 0% if you want
Bravo maciek90! and thank you
Pere said:
Well. it's not the solution, but this procedure can be a useful roundabout to access to wifi, or allow you to take a vital picture when you really need it and your battery is under 20% charge.
Imagine that you must send urgently a picture and you can't do it because someone from Toshiba decided this stupid limitation when you are at the end of the battery life.. following the maciek90's procedure, you can save this limitation and drain your battery up to the 0% if you want
Bravo maciek90! and thank you
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thanks for the info Pere!
guys, also another thing i learnt from my physics class is that putting a recharegable battery in the freezer for 1 hr, somehow give it longer battery! I tried this on my tg01 battery, it strangely worked , or it was all in my mind!
you've gotta make sure the battery isnt wet from condensation when you put itback in the phone! my battery last slightly longer. i dont do it often, only once every now and again... try at your own risk!
olyloh6696 said:
thanks for the info Pere!
guys, also another thing i learnt from my physics class is that putting a recharegable battery in the freezer for 1 hr, somehow give it longer battery! I tried this on my tg01 battery, it strangely worked , or it was all in my mind!
you've gotta make sure the battery isnt wet from condensation when you put itback in the phone! my battery last slightly longer. i dont do it often, only once every now and again... try at your own risk!
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...the duracell bunny was a penguin
Not, seriously, I'll try it and if it works..but all it sounds incredible!
Best regards
Pere said:
...the duracell bunny was a penguin
Not, seriously, I'll try it and if it works..but all it sounds incredible!
Best regards
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Aha
I seriously warn you be careful of condensarion!
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I definitely think it is either level measuring circuit problem or battery driver itself - not too big power consumption.
I can repeat without any problems situation where battery level suddenly decreases about 20-30% . I noticed it only during internet operations via GSM so utilizing radio. Why , I do not know . How to fix it ? I do not know yet but it is enough to restart system so that battery indicator start to show correct value - until next failure .
I thought when bad indication occures it would be enough to stop-start baterry driver using way You described. It does not work. Stopping driver cause battery indicator shows unknown level. Starting driver not fix it. Battery indicator still shown unknown value. Only restart fix it. It should not behave this way.
Maybe problem is not in driver but top bar of today screen when battery indicator exists, should have any kind of reset too?
BTH. What software is responsible for displaying battery indicator ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
Today morning next described previously error concerned with GSM radio.
I had GSM radio switched off in the night and phone in sleep mode.
Morning, when I set phone to operational mode , battery indicator showed 50% - the same as yesterday evening.
When I switched GSM radio on, battery indicator suddenly showed 30% and none phone operation could change it. Only system restart caused battery indicator started to show correct value again - 50%
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Today morning next described previously error concerned with GSM radio.
I had GSM radio switched off in the night and phone in sleep mode.
Morning, when I set phone to operational mode , battery indicator showed 50% - the same as yesterday evening.
When I switched GSM radio on, battery indicator suddenly showed 30% and none phone operation could change it. Only system restart caused battery indicator started to show correct value again - 50%
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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yes! i am not the only one! recently i got a data plan for my tg01. when i use the data connection for 1-2 minutes, the battery drops 10% and it will stay at its false value until i soft reset. i thought that the problem was with the rom that i was using but i guess im wrong. what ROM are you on? it is very annoying and i have to constantly reset my phone. i have done some test, and if i keep using it, on data, the battery could conpletely go dead like when it is out of power, then when i power back in it is back to its true value. any solutions?!
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Hi!
Question: When an XDA is placed in the cradle (w/ charging) or car mount it starts charging and the LED goes orange. After the battery is full the LED turns green. So far so good. What actually happens in the device when it decides it is full? Is the battery "disconnected" by some means? I mean if the device is working (navigation) is it drawing power from the battery which in turn gets instantly replaced from the charger or is the battery left alone and the device just draws power from the charger?
I was wondering if it is possible to turn off "charging" by some little tool or hack. Reason is that I use my XDA for navigation and I hate the feeling of allowing memory effect when I put the device in at 70% battery power, drive somewhere, take it out at 100% and then put it back in at 90% for the way home. My navikit unfortunately does not allow disabling charging, because there is only one button that powers GPS mouse, charging and speaker.
I know that playing with this is potentially dangerous, but I am just wondering. If there is no way I think I should take the navikit to some who can solder...
Any ideas?
Li-ion batteries don't suffer from the lazy battery or memory effect like Ni-Cd or Ni-Mh batteries do. I would surmise that the charging circuitry is deactivated once another primary power source is detected. According to battery-university.com , Li-ion batteries used in cell phone chargers don't enter the so-called "trickle charge" mode as Ni-Cd and Ni-MH batteries do.
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-21.htm
Hope this helps,
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Li-ion batteries don't suffer from the lazy battery or memory effect like Ni-Cd or Ni-Mh batteries do.
I'd really love to believe this. But check out this. When I run low on power I usually "discharge" as good as possible before recharging. Like disabling auto-off for device and backlight and giving the CPU some stupid load. At some point the device just gives up and turns off. That should mean "battery empty", right. Turning it back on after this gives me only a minute or a few seconds of idle runtime. Battery empty, one thinks. One day when I considered the battery discharged I exited a program which locked the device completely. The backlight was on but there was absolutely no reaction to ANY button or digitizer tap. Not even the power button worked. Fine I thought, perfect battery drain mode. The XDA ran for another 45mins with backlight blazing. 45 minutes of backlight. That's 6 hours of standby or 30mins of usage.
So maybe there is a memory effect which is not quite as high. Or maybe the XDA circuitry is designed to be so "secure" (as not allowed complete drain) by default.
Whatever. Thanks for your input and time. Will check out the link now.
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no it's not memory it's because the cpu and everything apart from the screen is off
but the tool reporting the % calc with the current being used when it's running and thats with cpu gsm and everything on
also all li-ion die after about 2 years and in the end of their life they start to act pretty funny
I am getting very poor battery life.
The battery drains within 24 Hrs to a dead phone.
Is it normal? I have heard, people talking about a battery life of 3-4 days.
What can I do to correct this problem.
Please help.
Hi Anand
I, too, had terrible battery life once I upgraded. I had heard that sometimes if you flash the ROM again over the last time it improves the life. I was skeptical ... until I did it last night.
My device was still at 94% when I woke this morning, and by 5pm this afternoon had only dropped to 87%. I have never had such great battery life! Never!
Give it a try. Can't hurt.
Kevin
I tried reflashing the ROM, but it did not had an impact on the battery backup.
Do I need to take care of something while reflashing it.
Thanks a lot for the reply and the help.
Has anyone else had issues with draining battery life? After flushing with the latest official ROM, 30% left after left switched off O/N!!!!
Any fixes? is it a known issue?
Thanks!
i am having the same problem...i also reflashed...but it seems like the device doesnt go to standby mode after 'x' minutes of inactivity as selected in the power options. is the same thing happening with u 2?
also, are u using O2 Plus?
initial charging
have tried recharging your atom for 8 hours when you first bought it? try it. it worked for me. it extended my batt's life
Yes, I am using O2 Plus, also, I think charging of Li-Poly Batteries does not require to be charged for 8 Hrs. Infact it may result into over charging.
By the way, I am getting precisely 24 Hrs of backup when using PUSH email support with Ms Exchange Server.
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check the manual.. it says there u need to fully charge the atom for 8 hours.. that's for the initial charging. i also called one of the reps in the service center for atom here in the phils and that was waht he told me to do. cheers mate
Hi try removing the WM5 Battery Icon on the top bar through the registry... i notice that helpson my atom. i have O2 batery meter running instead.
Re: charging
I have poor battery life as well. Unit is discharge within 12 hours.
I have a whole lot of applications installed, so after I've reinstalled the ROM, I'd my backup fully restored.
I am wondering if that's a mistake as it might also "restore" the issue with the battery life. Anyone has advise on this matter?
Thanks!
I neva did that 8hrs initial charge since too excited to explore on the 1st touch~ hehe..
Btw, it's said many times that plug-ins that probes hardware needs extra battery power ie. memory/battery/storage. I've none of those plugins and even on a2dp stereos, the battery only drops from 100 to 80+ on few hours of mp3s. Some players can switch off your backlight and still continue playing mp3s ie. WM10/TCPMP, see their button assignment options. You might also wanna remove that battery icon on the top right through the registry. Set the backlight 10secs, slider to 1-4 and power down 1min helps me alot too.
reflashing
heya ppl...what do you mean by reflashing?Cheers...
Battery Died on me
hey the battery was low, and i plugged it into the computer jack (to synchronize), which was supposed to rechareg the battery, an hour later, it beeped saying battery was too low, and was shutting down. and it shut off completely.
now i am rechanging with the charger, and the amber light is on.... but after 30 mins of charging, i still can't turn on the phone.
when i try, the green light seem to flash onmce every 30 seconds....... and i have put it back in the charger
when it completely discharges, do i have to fully recharge before i can switch it on?
Atom Manual Help
Well, after getting fed up with my poor Atom's battery life, I checked out the manual to see what it said about battery life. It does say to charge the battery for 8 hours intially, and for the first 3 charges after that you must drain it completely then recharge it fully--for a total of 3 times. Okay, so I did this and I haven't noticed a difference (I know others say you aren't supposed to do this with a Li-Ion battery but it's in the manual!).
Anyone else tried this?
The only other thing I haven't tried was reflashing (reloading the ROM).
It seems this issue is the bane of the Atom.
Battery life
try to reduce the "brightness" and make sure to end every task completely! 8)
Battery Drain
I already wrote about this in some other forum but this the same problem with my O2 with Bluetooth not more then 8 hours max. Without bluetooth. 20 to 24 hours.
I never leave any application running I use the memory settings to close all applications.
I still do not find any diff. I have closed the IR, I have reduced the backlight time to 10 Secs. I have reduced the backlight to 3. No change.
I have already complained about this to O2 but no result. They are probably stuck with Windows people not supporting them or with no solution. They are not even responding now on this issue. TOOOOO BAD
I hope someone can find a solution.
Flash the ROM exactly as per the procedure. Normally the last part is not read properly. After the ROM is flashed they ask to reset the device twice. One time a Hard Reset and another time a soft reset before you load the data and programs. If you follow the procedure properly maybe you will solve the battery problem like me and many others.
If you are using bluetooth switch it off and check you will come to know the exact battery life. Secondly in settings keep IR off. Backlight a bit low 3 or 4 as you get proper vision, without reflection and most of all saves battery. Most important close all programs by going to Settings>Memory>close all so that all applications will close and not consume the battery. This is a windows software flaw which needs correction but no one does anything for it, not even microsoft.
I am getting poor battery life with New ROM 20060426 i also reflashed but nothing
it's the same prob with old roms ??
thanx
did you perform reset twice after reflashing? first rard reset, second soft reset?
thanx kropotov with reset twice after reflashing all ok . after 24 hours battery still in 75%
thanx
i am having a quite unusual problem with the battery on my TP. it is hard to explain but i will try my best to do so. While i was casually surfing the web while on the charger i noticed that my battery started to drain ( this is the more ordinary problem that has been posted on many threads ) but this new situation is. The indicator lights and meters within the TP indicate that the battery is charging yet it still drains. I tried turning it completely off and removing the battery and then putting it back in and charge the unit for one hour. After one hour it charged to 20% which is reasonable enough for normal use, so i turn it back on and continue to use the device again the TP still indicates that the battery is charging after listening to about 7 songs i get a very low battery indicator warning (at the same time the battery indicates its charging) there is NO overheating and when the battery reaches 0% it does not die the screen just goes off and i can turn it back on and still recieve the low battery warning but what i cannot do is use data or even turn the phone radio back on. I am on the NFS 1.05 ROM, any suggestions?
eric12341 said:
i am having a quite unusual problem with the battery on my TP. it is hard to explain but i will try my best to do so. While i was casually surfing the web while on the charger i noticed that my battery started to drain ( this is the more ordinary problem that has been posted on many threads ) but this new situation is. The indicator lights and meters within the TP indicate that the battery is charging yet it still drains. I tried turning it completely off and removing the battery and then putting it back in and charge the unit for one hour. After one hour it charged to 20% which is reasonable enough for normal use, so i turn it back on and continue to use the device again the TP still indicates that the battery is charging after listening to about 7 songs i get a very low battery indicator warning (at the same time the battery indicates its charging) there is NO overheating and when the battery reaches 0% it does not die the screen just goes off and i can turn it back on and still recieve the low battery warning but what i cannot do is use data or even turn the phone radio back on. I am on the NFS 1.05 ROM, any suggestions?
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Try to get a charger with an output of at least 1 A. It could be that your charger is not powerful enough to compensate for the drainage. The other thing is that WM' battery indicator flat out sucks... it is like Windows file system when it is desperately trying to tell you how much time you have left before your task is done (2 minutes jumping to 15 seconds jumping to 54 minutes jumping to 2 seconds jumping to 3 days, etc)..
Flash to another rom and see if the behavior still remains.... I doubt NFS messed up that badly with power settings, but it is always worth giving it a shot.
yea i doubt its the rom either as i was having overheating/drainage problems on stock but it wasnt anything like this
If I keep my phone on charging even after its on 100%, it starts rolling back. As in from 100 to 99 then 98, even if its pluggen in.
Don't know what kind of a problem this is, hardware or software.
Or there's some issue with the battery.
Please help.
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If I keep my phone on charging even after its on 100%, it starts rolling back. As in from 100 to 99 then 98, even if its pluggen in.
Don't know what kind of a problem this is, hardware or software.
Or there's some issue with the battery.
Please help.
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Sometimes I have the same problem. I dont know if it is caused of a program running in a background or what, but reboot helps
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Sometimes I have the same problem. I dont know if it is caused of a program running in a background or what, but reboot helps
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I know the reboot helps.
But usually I put it on charging at night before sleeping.
And when I wake up in the morning, the battery % becomes even less than what it was when i plugged it in.
I'm usually in a hurry then to leave for college in the morning . Can't go to college with battery % less than even 10
Thanks for the reply anyway !
lakshay03 said:
I know the reboot helps.
But usually I put it on charging at night before sleeping.
And when I wake up in the morning, the battery % becomes even less than what it was when i plugged it in.
I'm usually in a hurry then to leave for college in the morning . Can't go to college with battery % less than even 10
Thanks for the reply anyway !
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Maybe You have some program that syncs something all the time. Did You try to turn off data and wifi. You can always check it if the reason is the hardware or Software. Just make a backup of Your whole ROM, delete the data and leave the phone over night. I hope it is only software problem.
EDIT: Does Your battery go hot while charging? Oh, and try to wipe battery stats
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Maybe You have some program that syncs something all the time. Did You try to turn off data and wifi. You can always check it if the reason is the hardware or Software. Just make a backup of Your whole ROM, delete the data and leave the phone over night. I hope it is only software problem.
EDIT: Does Your battery go hot while charging? Oh, and try to wipe battery stats
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Yes, my battery does get hot while charging.
And I did wipe the battery stats but its of no use.
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Yes, my battery does get hot while charging.
And I did wipe the battery stats but its of no use.
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Maybe there is really some program that is causing that. I had this problem rarely so I never cared. I had one program called Batterymonitor or sth. like that and it was the reason. Do You have such a program, that shows Your battery level or temperature?
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Maybe there is really some program that is causing that. I had this problem rarely so I never cared. I had one program called Batterymonitor or sth. like that and it was the reason. Do You have such a program, that shows Your battery level or temperature?
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Yes, I have setcpu and rom toolbox.
But would these applications really cause this problem?
Sent from my X10 using XDA
The x10 charges the battery to full then if still plugged in it will stop charging until batt drains to set level ,then will charge to full again and over and over all night. X10 wont over charge batt when left plugged in. Kernel/bootloader handle this. There is an app current widget that can log charge levels.
EDIT: I had a tip on charging here but removed it after further research read more about batt here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
ToledoJab said:
The x10 charges the battery to full then if still plugged in it will stop charging until batt drains to set level ,then will charge to full again and over and over all night. X10 wont over charge batt when left plugged in. Kernel/bootloader handle this. There is an app current widget that can log charge levels.
EDIT: the best tip I usr for battery life is, let batt runout until phone shuts off, then pull batt, then plug in charger, then replace batt into phone, then phone will boot, enter xrecovery on first boot and wipe batt stats. After wipe while still in xrec pull batt then unplug. Now plug in phone then insert batt. Phone should boot in charge mode( big batt icon only on screen) dont start phone untill light green for 1-2 hours to get full charge . I do this about once a month, when phone starts to shut off around 15%
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As mentioned above as well, this is normal. After charging to 100%, the phone stops battery charging, and will activate charging again only when battery falls a bit (say 97%). Also, battery heating while on charging (and also when using the phone continuously while playing a game) is normal. Relax.. your phone is fine
@ToledoJab
I am having the same issue with battery... phone switching off at 15%, even at 22-23%, when playing a game or something. But switching it back on, and leaving it idle, phone might run for another 2 hours. So it is the extra load while running a game that the phone cant take any longer (i remember getting the 15%,10% and 5% reminders earlier while playing games)...? Does the battery calibrate method actually help in your case? does it go all the way down to 0% or 1% before shutting down.. ?
I just did this after posting that. And yes my phone reported warnings @ 25% 15 10 5 and then shutdown @ 1%.
This way is like reconditioning an old rechargeable ni-cad batt.
All this does is completey drain batt then, with least amount of drainage (phone on, apps& radios running) allows battery to full charge.
There is also a way called recalibrate battery. But this way over charges the batt.
EDIT: I think the phone load will effect reported batt left. I think batt gage use average loads to estimate remaining power. Meaning games, full brightness of LCD, radios -3g -GPS -WiFi -Bluetooth will use more than avg power
edit 2: I found this thread also has some very good points and links. after reading this i will not intentionally take my batt to 0%. I hit 0% about 1-2 times a month on accident as it is. i will just make sure when i do go 0% to wipe stats (dont know if it helps or not) then preform a long (overnight) full charge with phone off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445698
SORRY for ranting on about this, i thought i was smart but i am still/always learning.
From my XPERIA X10S v8.2 on kCernel @ 1.19ghz
This is not happening for the first time...
Ever since I rooted my device and flashed Android Revolutionary Rom on it, I noticed some weird behavior with my device/battery.
Last night I drained my battery to 6% and I turned it off. This morning I charged my phone with the phone stayed off and when the battery indicator screen lighted up it was showing that 50% juice remains. Since this is not happening for the first time, this time I would like to test on it to see whether there's really this much juice remains. So I turned my phone on and as expected, the battery indicator shows 50++% left. So I play around with it and I noticed the screen flashing terribly after some time. Not long after that the phone hang there and I had to do a hard reset by pulling out the battery. Before that, I can see that the battery is drained to around 20%. I was unable to power it on after pulling out the battery and when I connected my device to the charger, nothing happens (no display, no LED). So I left it there charging and after some time, finally the LED is lighting up (So, I assume that I drained the battery COMPLETELY just now). I can switch on the device afterwards and it shows 6% battery remains. I wonder why is this happening as this only happens when I charge my device with it turning off. Something wrong with the battery? Device? Or I have to do battery calibration?
nikctsh said:
This is not happening for the first time...
Ever since I rooted my device and flashed Android Revolutionary Rom on it, I noticed some weird behavior with my device/battery.
Last night I drained my battery to 6% and I turned it off. This morning I charged my phone with the phone stayed off and when the battery indicator screen lighted up it was showing that 50% juice remains. Since this is not happening for the first time, this time I would like to test on it to see whether there's really this much juice remains. So I turned my phone on and as expected, the battery indicator shows 50++% left. So I play around with it and I noticed the screen flashing terribly after some time. Not long after that the phone hang there and I had to do a hard reset by pulling out the battery. Before that, I can see that the battery is drained to around 20%. I was unable to power it on after pulling out the battery and when I connected my device to the charger, nothing happens (no display, no LED). So I left it there charging and after some time, finally the LED is lighting up (So, I assume that I drained the battery COMPLETELY just now). I can switch on the device afterwards and it shows 6% battery remains. I wonder why is this happening as this only happens when I charge my device with it turning off. Something wrong with the battery? Device? Or I have to do battery calibration?
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Let it charge to 100% first before using. Then check how is the battery usage.
There might be an issue with the battery also. If it is swollen then it's time to get a new one.
Try using another battery and see. If it works fine on other battery then your battery needs to change,
The problem could also be in the ROM. Something could have gone wrong during installation even though it may look fine. If this is the case then reflash the ROM with a full wipe. If the problem still remains, return to stock rom and see.
I had the exact same problems, the screen flashes and stutters, network signal is lost and the phone turns off, it is due to uncalibrated battery.
There's a simple fix, download battery calibration from play stor (green android icon with percentage), charge your phone to 100% without using it, then click battery calibr. inside that app, then doscharge it till 0% (do your normal usage as ussual) and then charge it back to 100%
For healthy battery life don't let it drain lower than 10% it's the li-ion physics and always charge it fully, don't charge from 0 to 30-50-60% because the ions in the battery will not have a good flow.
Everything has it's lifespan but if it's configured and used properly it can have a long lifespan
Also to mention, if my recommendation doesn't work, your battery could be swolen due to inproper charging / heavy oc-ing or your charger is messed up.
Also to say, that flickering occured to me when i flashed a new rom and when i do lot of reboots, then the batterystats freak out, the voltages also and also your phone.
Charhe and use it properly, try to stay with a rom at least a couple of days to see how it'll go.
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RazorMC said:
Let it charge to 100% first before using. Then check how is the battery usage.
There might be an issue with the battery also. If it is swollen then it's time to get a new one.
Try using another battery and see. If it works fine on other battery then your battery needs to change,
The problem could also be in the ROM. Something could have gone wrong during installation even though it may look fine. If this is the case then reflash the ROM with a full wipe. If the problem still remains, return to stock rom and see.
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The battery usage is normal, and its not swollen. I guess I will try to calibrate the battery or reflash the ROM again.
lsalamun said:
I had the exact same problems, the screen flashes and stutters, network signal is lost and the phone turns off, it is due to uncalibrated battery.
There's a simple fix, download battery calibration from play stor (green android icon with percentage), charge your phone to 100% without using it, then click battery calibr. inside that app, then doscharge it till 0% (do your normal usage as ussual) and then charge it back to 100%
For healthy battery life don't let it drain lower than 10% it's the li-ion physics and always charge it fully, don't charge from 0 to 30-50-60% because the ions in the battery will not have a good flow.
Everything has it's lifespan but if it's configured and used properly it can have a long lifespan
Also to mention, if my recommendation doesn't work, your battery could be swolen due to inproper charging / heavy oc-ing or your charger is messed up.
Also to say, that flickering occured to me when i flashed a new rom and when i do lot of reboots, then the batterystats freak out, the voltages also and also your phone.
Charhe and use it properly, try to stay with a rom at least a couple of days to see how it'll go.
Sent from my pebble blue scoobie doo using Tapatalk.
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Yea, I will try to calibrate my battery to see if it helps