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Hey all,
I've recently rooted and I'm loving it. Quick background, I've recently rooted using the erisuser1 tutorial at android forums (VERY VERY helpful thank you!). I demo'd a few different ROMs, and decided I really wanted to keep some SenseUI feel, so ended up with xtrSense 4.2. It's worked really well for me, but I may be trying more in the near future (recommendations are welcome!). After the load, I've also utilized SetCPU for OC'ing, which was the main impetus for rooting. Has that ever made a difference! However, the question remains, what next? First, there are a couple things I know I want to do...
1. Remove stock apps: xtrSense did a nice job of removing a lot of bloatware from the OS, but some still remain, i.e. Amazon MP3 and teeter. It seems the xtrSense ROM included scripts for use in GScript to remove these, but I have yet to get them to work when following the steps outlined in the xtrSense post here at XDA. Has anyone had success using this method? If not, shouldn't the mere fact that I have root give me access to removing these programs via another method? What other apps/processes are used to remove stock apps once root is achieved? Any help would be awesome.
2. A2SD, C2SD & C2C: Does anyone use these processes? If so, how has it been achieved? Again, it seems the xtrSense 4.2 ROM included scripts for use in GScript to added this functionality, but I have never seen an increase in internal memory after using the scripts. I have undertaken the prereq that is partitioning my SD card, and have yet to see any success. Have others been successful using this or another process to achieve A2SD, C2SD or C2C? If so, how? Also, are there any cons to doing any of these? Any help in this regard would be MUCH appreciated.
3. What have YOU done post-root? I'm very very happy with what root, ROM and OC has done for the speed and battery life of my phone. However, I'm certain there are a million more tweaks that can be done to improve the speed and user experience of this cool little device, and I would be love to hear what others have done to further enjoy using the Droid Eris. What are your recommendations? Feel free to let me know!
Ok, any help in these areas would be really appreciated. Thanks for reading through this long post, and know that I am also happy to share any knowledge in regards to the steps I have already taken to get to this point.
Thank you!
Make the rom your own! mess with the theme, install bootanimations, make your own boot.
Change the splash screen (skateboard screen) don't be afraid to mess with the system just make sure you do nandroid backups. Try to figure how to add the features by yourself, struggle with it a little, that's always fun. Follow a few tutorials, like when I was starting there wasn't much documentation on how to enable a2sd by changing the boot.img so I had fun figuring that out.
Hope this gives you a few ideas ;p
Edit: if you going to be messing with phone I would suggest adding a linux partition to your computer if you are a windows person. Makes your life easier no need to worry about drivers etc
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Agree, wholeheartedly! I've been rooted since July, and have learned a lot using this forum. It's great to be able to change the boot logo screen, boot animations, etc. You can also improve battery life, increase speed, etc. After root, it's like having a new phone, and you have a greater sense of control over your device each time you learn something new. Have fun!
ckfalls said:
1. Remove stock apps: xtrSense did a nice job of removing a lot of bloatware from the OS, but some still remain, i.e. Amazon MP3 and teeter. It seems the xtrSense ROM included scripts for use in GScript to remove these, but I have yet to get them to work when following the steps outlined in the xtrSense post here at XDA. Has anyone had success using this method? If not, shouldn't the mere fact that I have root give me access to removing these programs via another method? What other apps/processes are used to remove stock apps once root is achieved? Any help would be awesome.
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I don't know what to tell you, as removing stock applications with zach.xtr's Gscript process has always worked flawlessly for me. You may want to upgrade to the new xtrSENSE4.6 Beta that is out (you can find it by browser the more recent posts at the end of the xtrSENSE thread--Zach posted a link).
All I can say is that, when using Gscripts, make sure that you have "Needs SU?" checked. Aside from that, you just need to load Zach's scripts into Gscripts. After you load the scripts, have you pressed them? Just because you've loaded them into Gscripts doesn't mean they've run. You actually need to press on them to run them.
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2. A2SD, C2SD & C2C: Does anyone use these processes? If so, how has it been achieved? Again, it seems the xtrSense 4.2 ROM included scripts for use in GScript to added this functionality, but I have never seen an increase in internal memory after using the scripts. I have undertaken the prereq that is partitioning my SD card, and have yet to see any success. Have others been successful using this or another process to achieve A2SD, C2SD or C2C? If so, how? Also, are there any cons to doing any of these? Any help in this regard would be MUCH appreciated.
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I've used all of them at various points in time--I used to use A2SD and C2SD, but ever since C2C was developed I've had no need. In xtrSENSE4.2, I'm pretty sure C2C is enabled by default. So, you don't need to worry about it UNLESS you're running low on disk space. If you're running low, how many apps do you have installed (you should be able to store ~100 with C2C)?
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3. What have YOU done post-root? I'm very very happy with what root, ROM and OC has done for the speed and battery life of my phone. However, I'm certain there are a million more tweaks that can be done to improve the speed and user experience of this cool little device, and I would be love to hear what others have done to further enjoy using the Droid Eris. What are your recommendations? Feel free to let me know!
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My recommendation would be NOT to use SetCPU. I've found that running both of Zach's Gscripts for Max and Min CPU Speed has worked better--you won't need to wait for SetCPU to load up, be granted Superuser Permission, and then adjust your clock settings on boot. Plus, you'll have one less process running at all times, increasing performance.
Additionally, you may want to take a look at the xtrSENSE4.6 Beta that I mentioned previously. New, in that version, is the first ever inclusion of Collins_ph's Battery Tweak. Previously, it could only be used with Froyo ROMs. Enabling and configuring the utility will increase battery life because it gradually turns down the speed on your processor proportionally as your battery drains.
In terms of making the ROM "your own," I'd take a look in the Theme's thread. I can't provide you a list of everything that will work on xtrSENSE, but I can confirm that both the Minimal Matte Grey and Touch of Legend MetaMorph Themes do work for xtrSENSE. Also, you may want to check out LauncherPro (Plus), if you haven't already (www.launcherpro.com)... I absolutely love LauncherPro Plus, but I'm not "actively" using it. I'm really waiting on Fede to develop acceptable Photo and Music widgets to replace HTC's Sense Widgets (if anyone has suggestions on existing replacements, please let me know...). Having said that, I run a secondary "experimental" ROM on weekend--I run xtrROM with LauncherPro Plus. If you do decide to use LauncherPro, then I'd really recommend taking a look at xtrROM verses xtrSENSE.
Also, if you're a Sense fan, you might want to check out the newest version of KaosLegendary, V18. This is a port of a Tiawanese leaked version of HTC's forecoming Wildfire Sense UI. This is an Alpha Build at the moment and there are a few nagging issues, but it's neat just to use for half a day on the weekend to see how Froyo Sense will eventually pan out.
Finally, take a look at some of the Froyo ROMs that are built around CyanogenMod 6.0 (e.g. CELB Froyo; KaosFroyo; Tazz Froyo; and I think ShadowROM). Maybe you'll find that you like CyanogenMod better than Sense and stick with that?
Good luck!
P.S. In the future, you're probably better off posting something like this in the Q&A section.
I highly reccommend downloading Titanium and running a batch back up of all your apps and data. When you flash a new rom you can download Titanium again and restore your apps and settings (saves a lot of time if you become a flashaholic). Also grab Root Explorer. It's an app that allows you to access your sd card and your rom system. Wana change your boot animation? Save the file to your sd, open Root Explorer, copy it from the sd to data/local and reboot. Same goes for stock apps. Locate them and delete. Another valuable app is a terminal emulator. Open it up, type SU to obtain superuser permission, then a2sd check. This will tell you if a2sd is functioning correctly. Type a2sd help for a list of commands to use if it's not working.
Always Nand back up and you can flash any rom you want, play with it, screw it up, who cares....nand restore and you're back to point A. I highly reccommend trying a few Froyo roms. You'll need to partition your sd back to all fat32 or it wont recognize it. Froyo is faster than 2.1 and has a stock (somewhat different) a2sd. KaosLegendary is the only current Froyo rom with sense but it's fun to play with. WARNING - many users have bricked their phones using Clockwork. Some people love it but I'm afraid of it.
If you haven't already, try ADW or Launcher Pro. Once you decide you hate one and love the other (this will happen), you wont even miss sense.
Also download Metamorph and Busybox. You'll need these to theme your rom of choice (unless you find a flashable theme).
Now, put your phone down, get back to work, and for God's sake tell your wife you love her. You haven't even talked to her in weeks!!
Sent from my nonsensikal froyo using XDA App
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I highly reccommend downloading Titanium and running a batch back up of all your apps and data. When you flash a new rom you can download Titanium again and restore your apps and settings (saves a lot of time if you become a flashaholic).
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Great post! +1 on Titantium Backup and Root Explorer--I use both.
Just a note: With Titanium Backup, I recommend scheduling it to backup both Apps + System Data and syncing it with Dropbox. This way, if something should happen, like your SD Card becomes corrupt and you can't Nand Restore, you'll be able to reflash your current ROM and Restore all Apps + System Data, since you're having a scheduled backup taken and stored in your Dropbox folder as well.
Having said that, when flashing a NEW ROM or UPGRADING, remember to Restore "Apps + Data" but NOT to do the "Restore Apps + System Data." This will ensure that if the developer of your ROM has changed any system files, they won't be messed up. Sure, it'll take you 10-15 minutes to get your ROM the way you want (e.g. Home Screens, Systems Sounds, Notifications, etc.) but it's worth it to know that everything will work properly. Since your applications and their set up have nothing to do with the ROM, you can rest easily knowing that at least they'll come back configured as you left them for the most part.
KarateExplosion6 said:
Great post! +1 on Titantium Backup and Root Explorer--I use both.
Just a note: With Titanium Backup, I recommend scheduling it to backup both Apps + System Data and syncing it with Dropbox. This way, if something should happen, like your SD Card becomes corrupt and you can't Nand Restore, you'll be able to reflash your current ROM and Restore all Apps + System Data, since you're having a scheduled backup taken and stored in your Dropbox folder as well.
Having said that, when flashing a NEW ROM or UPGRADING, remember to Restore "Apps + Data" but NOT to do the "Restore Apps + System Data." This will ensure that if the developer of your ROM has changed any system files, they won't be messed up. Sure, it'll take you 10-15 minutes to get your ROM the way you want (e.g. Home Screens, Systems Sounds, Notifications, etc.) but it's worth it to know that everything will work properly. Since your applications and their set up have nothing to do with the ROM, you can rest easily knowing that at least they'll come back configured as you left them for the most part.
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Perfectly explained, nice job sir. This should be in the rollup!! Too many people make the mistake of restoring sys data from a older rom to newer, have to watch that. Rollup
My article at http://jonsuh.com/2010/09/make-your-droid-eris-faster-smoother-and-increase-battery-life-how-to/ will give you a whole mess of ideas of what you can do post-root. Hope this article helps!
Remember, these are just my suggestions, they are not necessarily the law. Some may disagree with my suggestions, some may work well for you, other may not as well as one may think. They are just pointers to get you in the right direction
KarateExplosion6 said:
I don't know what to tell you, as removing stock applications with zach.xtr's Gscript process has always worked flawlessly for me. You may want to upgrade to the new xtrSENSE4.6 Beta that is out (you can find it by browser the more recent posts at the end of the xtrSENSE thread--Zach posted a link).
All I can say is that, when using Gscripts, make sure that you have "Needs SU?" checked. Aside from that, you just need to load Zach's scripts into Gscripts. After you load the scripts, have you pressed them? Just because you've loaded them into Gscripts doesn't mean they've run. You actually need to press on them to run them.
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Ah, the tapping!! That did it. Also messed around (again) with titanium to get it to work, fig'd that out as well. Rookie mistakes...
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I've used all of them at various points in time--I used to use A2SD and C2SD, but ever since C2C was developed I've had no need. In xtrSENSE4.2, I'm pretty sure C2C is enabled by default. So, you don't need to worry about it UNLESS you're running low on disk space. If you're running low, how many apps do you have installed (you should be able to store ~100 with C2C)?
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Yes you're right C2C is default, I guess I'm just not certain if it's working. Apparently, there are two blocks on internal storage being used for apps in 4.2: /data/ and /cache/. I have 56mb free according to internal memory settings (/data/??) and 87.7 of 130mb used in /cache/ according to the report setting gscript Zach made. According to AppBrain I currently have 33 apps installed. 33 apps, ~100mb used already? Average of 3mb per app?? That just didn't seem right to me...maybe I'm just plain wrong. Opinions welcome!!
KarateExplosion6 said:
My recommendation would be NOT to use SetCPU. I've found that running both of Zach's Gscripts for Max and Min CPU Speed has worked better--you won't need to wait for SetCPU to load up, be granted Superuser Permission, and then adjust your clock settings on boot. Plus, you'll have one less process running at all times, increasing performance.
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I may try that, although in full disclosure, my main reason for rooting and OC'ing was for running game console emulators. They run SO much better since OC'ing. I did try Zach's max out of the box (710 max?), but I find that my SetCPU main setting of 768,528 during normal usage makes operation even more smooth and especially works best when emulating. I want to OC even when battery is lowering until it gets to the condition threshold i set in SetCPU (amount or temp). But I still may try his scripts and lose SetCPU, thanks for the idea.
KarateExplosion6 said:
In terms of making the ROM "your own," I'd take a look in the Theme's thread. I can't provide you a list of everything that will work on xtrSENSE, but I can confirm that both the Minimal Matte Grey and Touch of Legend MetaMorph Themes do work for xtrSENSE. Also, you may want to check out LauncherPro (Plus), if you haven't already I absolutely love LauncherPro Plus, but I'm not "actively" using it. I'm really waiting on Fede to develop acceptable Photo and Music widgets to replace HTC's Sense Widgets (if anyone has suggestions on existing replacements, please let me know...). Having said that, I run a secondary "experimental" ROM on weekend--I run xtrROM with LauncherPro Plus. If you do decide to use LauncherPro, then I'd really recommend taking a look at xtrROM verses xtrSENSE.
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So here's my questions with this: Don't apps like MetaMorph and Launcher run on top of everything that the ROM already has going on, thus adding another cumbersome running process to the already limited hardware? Wouldn't running this be akin to having two GUI's on the phone, or am I looking at this the wrong way? I'm assuming that's why you recommend switching to the more vanilla xtrROM, but maybe I'm off.
I also do badly want to try some additional ROM's once I have the time. The leaked Froyo with Sense ROM does sound intriguing and I may pursue that next.
Thanks for all the help, really appreciate the replies!
Will go the Q&A route next time too, thanks.
KarateExplosion6 said:
Great post! +1 on Titantium Backup and Root Explorer--I use both.
Just a note: With Titanium Backup, I recommend scheduling it to backup both Apps + System Data and syncing it with Dropbox. This way, if something should happen, like your SD Card becomes corrupt and you can't Nand Restore, you'll be able to reflash your current ROM and Restore all Apps + System Data, since you're having a scheduled backup taken and stored in your Dropbox folder as well.
Having said that, when flashing a NEW ROM or UPGRADING, remember to Restore "Apps + Data" but NOT to do the "Restore Apps + System Data." This will ensure that if the developer of your ROM has changed any system files, they won't be messed up. Sure, it'll take you 10-15 minutes to get your ROM the way you want (e.g. Home Screens, Systems Sounds, Notifications, etc.) but it's worth it to know that everything will work properly. Since your applications and their set up have nothing to do with the ROM, you can rest easily knowing that at least they'll come back configured as you left them for the most part.
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Great thank you both! I will take both of these posts into account when using Titanium before I go further down the ROM rabbit hole.
Just got a shiny new Fascinate, and about to start customizing it. I would like to remove most of the large collection of cr*pware that came pre-installed, bing included. Is it possible to install superuser and uninstall this stuff without risking bricking the device?
I'm a relative Android newb, and I'd rather not dabble in custom roms as this is an employer provided phone and I'm not comfortable blasting a new firmware on it yet.
Also, if I succeed in removing the aforementioned software, can / will it be restored by resetting the device to defaults, if that's even possible? Or will I need to root the thing in order to install backup software?
Lastly, if I want to use a keyboard other than swype or the default android, do I need to move the .apk to the /system/apps folder like I did on my Nook?
Yes, you can simply root your device and not install a custom ROM. Yes, you will have to root in order to de-bloat, so be aware, although it is very simple.
Rooting walkthrough: (very painless)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948722
Once rooted, download Titanium Backup from the Android market and de-bloat to your heart's content.
You might want to consider downloading ROM Manager (from market) and making a full backup of your rooted phone (called a Nandroid backup)
Keyboard: you can search the market for alternate keyboards (easiest method) or use adb push to /system/app if there is one you really want to use.
Cool, thanks for the response!
I'd already rooted, which would have been completely painless if I were running winblows. Nevertheless, after getting adb functional on Ubuntu it was relatively simple.
I've removed all the 'stuff' I don't want, any idea how to reassign the search button so it isn't pointing to bing also?
With Titanium and ROM Manager, would I need CWR or some other alternative boot app installed to restore this?
Also, I see lots of references to odin which is apparently needed for flashing over USB in the event I decide to take the plunge and dabble in custom roms. Anyone know if there's an equivalent for linux / osx? It astounds me that an android dev community such as this seems to be so windows centric...
for linux and mac use Heimdall, an odin clone.
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If you're still running EB01, then Bing search is hard coded. However, many custom ROMS remove this. I'm currently using SuperClean 2.9 and have both google search and google voice search (long press search button) set as my default.
A definitive list of Fascinate ROMS can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013312
To restore, I would definitely use CWR, as it is the recovery method used by ROM Manager. This is done either within ROM Manager (Backup/Restore) or by booting directly into CWM. Just make sure ,with a Fascinate, you only use CWR version 2.5.x.x, since version 3.0 doesn't currently play nice with the older amend type scripting.
It downloaded EA28 right after activation - I believe it said this is a corporate contract build, which is part of why I'm reluctant to burn a custom rom.
Outside of the bing search and the speakerphone being too loud, I really have no qualms with the phone at this early stage.
Thanks for the info about CWR and such - I've been lurking here for months and find the more I read the more confused I get.
Best not to go tinkering with corporate property- no sense in losing your job over a phone.
The speakerphone volume should be adjustable via the volume rocker on the side while activated.
Yes, there is a lot of knowledge available here, lol. Just remember, everybody here started somewhere.
Funny nick btw...
artvandelay440 said:
Best not to go tinkering with corporate property- no sense in losing your job over a phone.
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I'm not worried about that - they wouldn't fire me over a phone, I'm the guy that keeps their accounting system up at five nines. I just don't want to have to schmooze the office manager to get me a replacement if I brick it after less than a week. I'll let the new wear off a little first.
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The speakerphone volume should be adjustable via the volume rocker on the side while activated.
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Yeah, but at it's lowest setting it's still loud enough to be heard 30 ft away. Not a huge issue.
Ok, last question and I'll start spending a little more time searching, I promise. What's the deal with wifi on these things? Can / will they go through the wifi to get to the cloud? It doesn't appear that mine is doing this when I'm at home where 3g is very hit-and-miss. Are there any settings to tweak? Or is wifi just there for the DLNA server and tethering? I guess i was a bit spoiled by my blackberry in that this functionality (wifi handover) worked very well on the curve.
I haven't noticed any issues with wifi and cloud applications (dropbox, evernote, etc)
If you just mean internet connectivity in general sucks on wifi, perhaps it is more a router/ISP issue and less of the phone. Might do you some good to download a wifi analyzer to your phone (market) and make sure your dB strength is adequate, as well as make sure your router is broadcasting on the least congested channel. Have you tried connecting on a different wifi network? (work, restaurant)
Already have my AP set to the channel with the best noise floor. So I don't think it's an RF issue - all my other wifi devices (two laptops, two Nook tablets, and formerly my blackberry 8320) all work as well as could be expected with the same AP configuration.
I guess what I'm wanting to know is if there's a way to setup the IP/PPP stack on the phone to default to wifi for data. I guess I need to delve into the innards of their network config to find this out. Just thought there might be a GUI config menu somewhere that I was missing.
I'm not worried about that - they wouldn't fire me over a phone, I'm the guy that keeps their accounting system up at five nines. I just don't want to have to schmooze the office manager to get me a replacement if I brick it after less than a week. I'll let the new wear off a little first.
Brick a Fascinate? Don't think its Possible, I have done just about every stupid thing you can think of to mine, including flashing Darky's 9.3 rom for the I9000 on it by accident. As long as I can get it into DL mode, odin or heimdall can fix my stupidity.
So I have done some searching here, and really haven't found the information I am looking for.
I used to run an old HTC Imagio, and unlocked it. Wife was pissed because it pretty much never worked right after that.
Now I am runnning the Thunderbolt, have been since its release. I have also gotten the OTA update to 2.3.4. and now I am thinking whether I should or should not root.
All I keep hearing is tethering is now free, and its faster. So what I am asking is more of a sales pitch. I would love for someone to tell me really the advantages to rooting, how easy it really is, what I must have in order to properly use a rooted phone, which ROMs offer what customization, etc.
I currently use GoLauncher, and its pretty smooth for me. I like customization, changing screens, changing how the launcher looks (icons, screen transitions, etc). I also like to switch launchers from time to time, and have a cracked one that I can only use if rooted.
So as someone that is on the fence of rooting, I would like a good discussion on the pros and cons of rooting, especially on what really needs to be done (superuser, etc), I hear I have to install custom radios for both CDMA and the other, really? Those are the things I need to know before going into this, because the wife doesn't need to call me and it doesn't work, or text me and I never get or can send texts.
So hope I am not asking for too much.
Thanks!
Rooting the ThunderBolt is really easy. I used revolutionary www.revolutionary.io be sure to read everything before trying that method.
As for functionality, pretty much all the ROMs for the thunderbolt are very stable and have little to no bugs.
There are many different types of ROMs to choose from. You have Sense 2.1, sense 3.0, sense 3.5, miui, and aosp. Just browse the forums and see which you might like better. Also be aware that sense ROMs need sense kernels, and aosp and miui need aosp kernels.
I will tell you that tethering seems to work best on sense ROMs.
Since you have the 2.3.4 ota, you shouldn't need to flash any radios.
Hope this helps with your choice.
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Guys, another question regarding the "revolutionary" root method. There is a video and it shows that data (apps) are not deleted. Does that include contacts and other twitter and FB data?
Also, it indicates that you have to uninstall HTC Sync. When I reinstall it, will I have to reestablish connection to Outlook, or will it think nothing has happened to my phone?
I want this root to be as seamless as possible, so sync with outlook must be without a flaw.
And finally, if I do go this route, can anyone describe the different ROMS that are out there, what they offer, in terms of preinstalled apps, custimization, relative speed and ease of use, and level of bugginess or lack of bugginess.
Thanks again guys.
jerrya said:
Guys, another question regarding the "revolutionary" root method. There is a video and it shows that data (apps) are not deleted. Does that include contacts and other twitter and FB data?
Also, it indicates that you have to uninstall HTC Sync. When I reinstall it, will I have to reestablish connection to Outlook, or will it think nothing has happened to my phone?
I want this root to be as seamless as possible, so sync with outlook must be without a flaw.
And finally, if I do go this route, can anyone describe the different ROMS that are out there, what they offer, in terms of preinstalled apps, custimization, relative speed and ease of use, and level of bugginess or lack of bugginess.
Thanks again guys.
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Revolutionary does not root. All it does is give you S-OFF (disables rom signature checking by the bootloader. After using revolutionary you flash a small rom update (.zip file) that gives you the su binary and the superuser application (which controls the apps allowed to have root access, without it any app could call su without having to ask first). It might also install busybox. Note that installing a different ROM will delete all your data which is why after you root the first thing you should do is install Titanium Backup so you can back up everything (app data, system data such as contacts, installed apps, and even system apps). Btw, the Pro version of Titanium Backup is definitely worth the money. The ROM I use (Ginger_BreadRock_V2.6_(2.11.605.5)) is a deodexed and semi-debloated version of the latest official rom with visual voicemail and backup assistant manually added back in (I have the deodexed BA and VVM .apk files if you want them).
Other apps you might want after rooting: LBE Privacy Guard (lets you block apps from accessing private stuff like SMS Messages, contacts, IMEI/serial number, and GPS location), SetCPU or similar app (underclocking to 300MHz while the screen is off really helps battery life) and imoseyon's leankernel (be sure to get the gb sense one). With leankernel and that underclocking option set I can get three days of very light usage (a few bluetooth phone calls a day) before dropping below 15% power.
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Revolutionary does not root. All it does is give you S-OFF (disables rom signature checking by the bootloader. After using revolutionary you flash a small rom update (.zip file) that gives you the su binary and the superuser application (which controls the apps allowed to have root access, without it any app could call su without having to ask first). It might also install busybox. Note that installing a different ROM will delete all your data which is why after you root the first thing you should do is install Titanium Backup so you can back up everything (app data, system data such as contacts, installed apps, and even system apps). Btw, the Pro version of Titanium Backup is definitely worth the money. The ROM I use (Ginger_BreadRock_V2.6_(2.11.605.5)) is a deodexed and semi-debloated version of the latest official rom with visual voicemail and backup assistant manually added back in (I have the deodexed BA and VVM .apk files if you want them).
Other apps you might want after rooting: LBE Privacy Guard (lets you block apps from accessing private stuff like SMS Messages, contacts, IMEI/serial number, and GPS location), SetCPU or similar app (underclocking to 300MHz while the screen is off really helps battery life) and imoseyon's leankernel (be sure to get the gb sense one). With leankernel and that underclocking option set I can get three days of very light usage (a few bluetooth phone calls a day) before dropping below 15% power.
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I don't know what that deodex thing is, but I have heard that alot. I understand the debloated thing, thats always nice. I may have to wait until next december when my contract is up and I can renew. Might use that as a way to get the wife to let me root instead of buying a new phone.
She is very careful with her outlook, her contacts and calendar are her babies so to speak, so screwing that up is a big no no for me.
Thanks again for the information.
Revolutionary itself doesn't root our phone, by if you look, it gives you everything you need to root.
Deodex means there are no odex files, and in simple terms, it means the Rom is themable.
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If tethering is a major bonus and one of the main reasons you would like to root all you need to do is run revolutionary and install wifi tether. Running revo will not delete anything from your phone or change any of your currently set up applications. Your contacts will remain, twitter and facebook as well. It merely gains S-off and installs superuser so you can run rooted apps.
It is really hard to explain what the different roms have to offer since they all offer so much over stock. I hate verizons back up assistant so I just made sure all of my stuff is sync'd with google so once you sign back into your phone it will automatically reload calendar, contacts, wifi settings, etc...
Personally I enjoy sense based ROMs, others love AOSP. Currently I'm running Infectedrom.coms Eternity Sense 3.5 and absolutely love it.
Customization on most roms is the biggest reason I chose to root. Sick of my phone looking like everyone elses. It is nice to have another tbolt owner notice your sceen and get jealous
Just curious how would your phone mess up your wifes outlook contacts?
Stratejaket said:
If tethering is a major bonus and one of the main reasons you would like to root all you need to do is run revolutionary and install wifi tether. Running revo will not delete anything from your phone or change any of your currently set up applications. Your contacts will remain, twitter and facebook as well. It merely gains S-off and installs superuser so you can run rooted apps.
It is really hard to explain what the different roms have to offer since they all offer so much over stock. I hate verizons back up assistant so I just made sure all of my stuff is sync'd with google so once you sign back into your phone it will automatically reload calendar, contacts, wifi settings, etc...
Personally I enjoy sense based ROMs, others love AOSP. Currently I'm running Infectedrom.coms Eternity Sense 3.5 and absolutely love it.
Customization on most roms is the biggest reason I chose to root. Sick of my phone looking like everyone elses. It is nice to have another tbolt owner notice your sceen and get jealous
Just curious how would your phone mess up your wifes outlook contacts?
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Do you have a way of forcing your contacts and such to sync with google without having to re-enter your data from scratch?
Do this. Go to YouTube and search "how to root thunderbolt revolutionary". There's a few good follow-along-as-you-do-it-yourself vids with all the links to all you need to dl to use the revolutionary method.
If you go to gmail on a pc, go to contacts, and check them. If your phone contacts are there (they will be), they load when you log into your phone.
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everyone here has great advice tips, the only other GREAT thing i can add is that after you ROOT you can use Titanium backup. save all your data on your apps so you can transfer to another device and pick up where you left off.
This is one of the biggest reason to root your phone. you'll learn other GREAT tricks the app can do but i'll let you figure that on your own.
Stratejaket said:
If tethering is a major bonus and one of the main reasons you would like to root all you need to do is run revolutionary and install wifi tether. Running revo will not delete anything from your phone or change any of your currently set up applications. Your contacts will remain, twitter and facebook as well. It merely gains S-off and installs superuser so you can run rooted apps.
It is really hard to explain what the different roms have to offer since they all offer so much over stock. I hate verizons back up assistant so I just made sure all of my stuff is sync'd with google so once you sign back into your phone it will automatically reload calendar, contacts, wifi settings, etc...
Personally I enjoy sense based ROMs, others love AOSP. Currently I'm running Infectedrom.coms Eternity Sense 3.5 and absolutely love it.
Customization on most roms is the biggest reason I chose to root. Sick of my phone looking like everyone elses. It is nice to have another tbolt owner notice your sceen and get jealous
Just curious how would your phone mess up your wifes outlook contacts?
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Because, last time I unlocked a phone, I had used microsoft backup. So when I hard reset my phone after unlocking, it replaced everything on my phone like it should, but then when I synced with the desktop, it doubled everything on the desktop, contacts and calendar items. We had to remove the doubled items one at a time to get everything back to normal. I know she will kill me if that happens again with rooting this.
paigow said:
everyone here has great advice tips, the only other GREAT thing i can add is that after you ROOT you can use Titanium backup. save all your data on your apps so you can transfer to another device and pick up where you left off.
This is one of the biggest reason to root your phone. you'll learn other GREAT tricks the app can do but i'll let you figure that on your own.
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Absolutely TRUE! You have no idea how much hassle and time you will save by using this app!!!
jerrya said:
Because, last time I unlocked a phone, I had used microsoft backup. So when I hard reset my phone after unlocking, it replaced everything on my phone like it should, but then when I synced with the desktop, it doubled everything on the desktop, contacts and calendar items. We had to remove the doubled items one at a time to get everything back to normal. I know she will kill me if that happens again with rooting this.
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If it did happen google can clean duplicated contacts for you from the people app.
Do it. Sorry had to spam a thread to get to 10. Need to post in ROM sections.
I've had my Photon since last October, and have been thoroughly enjoying my phone. I keep my phone locked (for the 4g) but rooted so I have more flexibility. I have been noticing a slowdown in overall effectiveness when using apps on the phone, such as hitting the button in gmail to change accounts, and the button lights up for a few seconds then finally prompts me for the new account. Have had persistent issues with my cardock and bluetooth
Also have consistently been having issues where a program thrown into the background is immediately killed.
I've messed around with the Overcharge script in the past (maybe that did something), I've used motomizer, Loki's de-blur script. I've also added the modified app widget picker and removed a few Blur items.
I decided to sbf to 198_7 and start over from scratch, I've only installed a few new programs (google Reader, TB, Rom toolbox, Solid file Explorer, ES File explorer) and uninstalled the Sprint apps that are easy to remove (Nascar, Telenav, etc). My BT headset works while the phone is in the cardock now (yay) but I am still having the slow / laggy response in the UI.
A good example of the lag is when I unlock the phone. Remember, at this point I am near total stock, only with root. When I slide to unlock from the screen, there is a noticable delay before I get the homescreen. I watched one of qbking77's videos about restoring via SBF last night and on his demo, when he would unlock his photon it would "immediately" show the homescreen.
TLDR: Is it possible to have a problem re: performance separate from the image on the phone, something in the hardware. Totally subjective but something doesn't seem right and I've reset it as much as I can.
One of the big issues is we don't have a really good wiping mechanism so even if you and and factory reset stuff can still hang around.
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So a factory reset followed by an SBF isn't completely clean? Well, that blows.
yes I have files from Feb and I've gone from cm7 to cm9 to stock and back again wiping every time. I want to try that wipe all zip.
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When you say you have files left, are you refering to files left in the / or on your sd card? I assume the former, but I want to make sure I am clear in my understanding.
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yes I have files from Feb and I've gone from cm7 to cm9 to stock and back again wiping every time. I want to try that wipe all zip.
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The wipe all zip should do nothing more than can be done in recovery. Just packaged so the process is faster.
I'm not entirely sure about the Photon CWM recovery versions but they have been known to not wipe properly so the process should be done numerous times. Maybe using recovery and then the wipe all zip.
Always a good idea after flashing a few roms to go in and format all sd storage as well. A lot of android apps do not uninstall completely which drives me nuts. I suppose a cluttered directory structure could create some slowdown as well (although probably not noticable).
I have to say I wish my Photon was as speedy as the IPhone when zooming around the interface. I like to run a decent amount of widgets and those really start to slow things down depending on the launcher used.
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When you say you have files left, are you refering to files left in the / or on your sd card? I assume the former, but I want to make sure I am clear in my understanding.
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on / an example would be build.prop.bak on /system
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hi
it seems to be not a software problem. I've thought too that it is software, tried 'process killers' without any result, flashed stock 2.3.4, hybrid cm7 2.3.5, now i'm on jokersax's cm9 beta 0.6.1 - my problem is the same - touchscreen becomes very laggy without any reason, it 'wakes' only after pressing power button one to few times.
Here seems to be the same problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265289
one more http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-4g/440009-takes-multiple-taps-screen-select-something.html
i've shot a video of this lag http://youtu.be/KWDT1KTG-f8
Well, I kind of know what I'm in for. Been following this forum for about a month now and reading all the stuff on the recent roms. Basically I'm experiencing all the problems that Ohmster has stated he looks for when testing a new rom: tap and wait delays, random reboots, reboots to fix super lag, things not responding at all, are the main ones. Also get the "insufficient storage" when updating apps, besides the running out of disk space warning. Also issues with tethering. I've been using FoxFi, but somethings it won't work if I've recently turned it off (WiFi or Bluetooth) without waiting a while or a reboot. I would've switched to a new phone right now, but I like having an SD card, and any phone out there that I've seen with one, has a smaller battery. Why I'm still sticking with this. Anyway, the plan:
Root using the method outlined on CM's website (with computer) or without as shown in this thread no computer thread. Is one method better then the other?
Install latest Version of Safestrap (3.75 i think) and Ti Backup
And back up like crazy
Now comes the part where I could use a little advise. In investigating ROMs, I was mainly leaning towards LiquidSmooth or CM11 (yes, sticking with KitKat). I think I've settled with CM11 mainly due to the wealth of information on it, and the excellent work Ohmster has done with his guide on optimization. I just want something that is going to work, and be reliable, but I'm open to ideas and willing to hear suggestions.
Apps?
I know rooting allows you to do some great things. I'll definitely be using Ti Backup, Gapps(pa-gapps) and Greenify, but not sure if there are other things that would be advisable to install. I've looked at a few "must have on Rooted" phone lists, but they all seem to be a little different. For example:
SuperUser or SuperSU
Root Explorer (I've always used Astro File manager. Does RE do more then that?)
Busybox
rom explorer
Thanks to anyone for the assistance.
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I personally prefer Liquid Smooth and AOKP over CM, as I like my led to blink with the screen ON.
As for the file manager, I also love Astro. Using a very old version. But it doesn't give you root access. I love Solid Explorer, as you can view and move apps easily thanks to their dual screen in landscape mode. I have tried most of them at one time or another..