Laggy response? - Motorola Photon 4G

I've had my Photon since last October, and have been thoroughly enjoying my phone. I keep my phone locked (for the 4g) but rooted so I have more flexibility. I have been noticing a slowdown in overall effectiveness when using apps on the phone, such as hitting the button in gmail to change accounts, and the button lights up for a few seconds then finally prompts me for the new account. Have had persistent issues with my cardock and bluetooth
Also have consistently been having issues where a program thrown into the background is immediately killed.
I've messed around with the Overcharge script in the past (maybe that did something), I've used motomizer, Loki's de-blur script. I've also added the modified app widget picker and removed a few Blur items.
I decided to sbf to 198_7 and start over from scratch, I've only installed a few new programs (google Reader, TB, Rom toolbox, Solid file Explorer, ES File explorer) and uninstalled the Sprint apps that are easy to remove (Nascar, Telenav, etc). My BT headset works while the phone is in the cardock now (yay) but I am still having the slow / laggy response in the UI.
A good example of the lag is when I unlock the phone. Remember, at this point I am near total stock, only with root. When I slide to unlock from the screen, there is a noticable delay before I get the homescreen. I watched one of qbking77's videos about restoring via SBF last night and on his demo, when he would unlock his photon it would "immediately" show the homescreen.
TLDR: Is it possible to have a problem re: performance separate from the image on the phone, something in the hardware. Totally subjective but something doesn't seem right and I've reset it as much as I can.

One of the big issues is we don't have a really good wiping mechanism so even if you and and factory reset stuff can still hang around.
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So a factory reset followed by an SBF isn't completely clean? Well, that blows.

yes I have files from Feb and I've gone from cm7 to cm9 to stock and back again wiping every time. I want to try that wipe all zip.
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When you say you have files left, are you refering to files left in the / or on your sd card? I assume the former, but I want to make sure I am clear in my understanding.

cornelious2 said:
yes I have files from Feb and I've gone from cm7 to cm9 to stock and back again wiping every time. I want to try that wipe all zip.
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The wipe all zip should do nothing more than can be done in recovery. Just packaged so the process is faster.
I'm not entirely sure about the Photon CWM recovery versions but they have been known to not wipe properly so the process should be done numerous times. Maybe using recovery and then the wipe all zip.
Always a good idea after flashing a few roms to go in and format all sd storage as well. A lot of android apps do not uninstall completely which drives me nuts. I suppose a cluttered directory structure could create some slowdown as well (although probably not noticable).
I have to say I wish my Photon was as speedy as the IPhone when zooming around the interface. I like to run a decent amount of widgets and those really start to slow things down depending on the launcher used.

frozndevl said:
When you say you have files left, are you refering to files left in the / or on your sd card? I assume the former, but I want to make sure I am clear in my understanding.
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on / an example would be build.prop.bak on /system
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hi
it seems to be not a software problem. I've thought too that it is software, tried 'process killers' without any result, flashed stock 2.3.4, hybrid cm7 2.3.5, now i'm on jokersax's cm9 beta 0.6.1 - my problem is the same - touchscreen becomes very laggy without any reason, it 'wakes' only after pressing power button one to few times.
Here seems to be the same problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265289
one more http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-4g/440009-takes-multiple-taps-screen-select-something.html
i've shot a video of this lag http://youtu.be/KWDT1KTG-f8

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[Q] just rooted phone......

I have had my Eris since launch and have never modified the phone in anyway. Well i figured i would try the one click root your eris and it ended up working. I now have wifi teethering and set cpu. What else can you do. How do you get apptoSD? Can you get Flash 10.1 to work? What is a recovery image? These are all questions i am trying to find and cant get answered HELP!!!!!
There are so many advantages to rooting that I lose track sometimes lol. Obviously you know the overclocking and tethering. Also being able to back up all your data and apps is handy(check out Titanium Backup, MybackupPro, or Sprite). Root Explorer is a great app that allows you to view, install, move, copy, make zip files, etc anything internal and external memory. Autokiller is a settings tweak for the Android memory management system. There are a couple of nice launchers like ADW and LauncherPro - they used to be root only and I've been rooted long enough to not keep up with nonrooted stuff so you might already be familiar with them... But the biggest thing is being able to flash custom roms. Now you can run the newest OS that Verizon didn't care to let us have: Froyo. I believe you should have recovery already. To test this, you can turn off your phone and then to boot into recovery, hold down the volume UP button and then hit power "End" and you should be presented with a black and green screen with a few options. I would recommend doing a Nandroid back up first. This saves your phone to the state it is in at the moment. Then if you flash a new rom that you don't like or doesn't work for you, you can just reboot into recovery, flash your back up and be right back where you were. Apps 2 SD is handled differently between 2.1 and 2.2 roms. 2.1 you need to repartition your card to have an Ext and in Froyo it is built in. There are plenty of other things to do, like Metamorph which allows you to theme different parts of the rom and icons so you can customize the way it looks infinitely. As far as Flash, it does work on somethings (and only on some roms, I believe) but generally, will make your phone laggy since it is a strain for our phones to run it. There is so much more, but you probably won't need to worry about that till you get to playing around with the different roms and run into other things. If you need more help, hit me up on your Talk app using my screen name @ gmail.com Hope this helps.
I rooted and flashed xtrSense and man the battery life is worlds of difference, plus the responsiveness is amazing too.

[Q] Need help finding a ROM....

First, I have an Incredible and have done all the goodies to it, but my wife has an Eris and Im gonna need some help getting it right.
I month or so ago I rooted my wife's Eris and installed xtrSense on it because it looked closest to stock (with Sense). A couple weeks later htc mail kept force closing, over and over. Then some days it would go an entire day and not have service, while mine would when they are sitting next to each other. (by no service I mean the phone part of the smartphone did not function).
The biggest problem I am going to have in finding a ROM for this thing is she LOVES the HTC calendar widget and the HTC mail widgets. She has 2 work emails and a personal email, all of which have their own HTC mail widget.
Is there a vanilla ROM that has a widget that is similar to the HTC Mail widget?
I have been leaning towards KaosFroyo but the problem being the mail widget. I LOVE that Gingerbread theme by SicNside though!
Sorry for the long winded post!
Honestly, Ryan - instead of switching it up on her, re-download xtrSENSE, wipe, and flash it. This time, flash it TWICE just to make sure. Reboot, let it go, and then set it up with all her ****.
Once that's done, go to this thread and download the newest ERIS radio available:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650121
Download it to the phone, rename it to "update.zip" and put it in the root, reboot to recovery, flash it, reboot, let it install, reboot, and wait for your phone to start up.
Give it a little bit - and you should be good to go.
Long answer short: no (not that I've seen), the HTC widgets are pretty darn exclusive.
elitenls said:
Honestly, Ryan - instead of switching it up on her, re-download xtrSENSE, wipe, and flash it. This time, flash it TWICE just to make sure. Reboot, let it go, and then set it up with all her ****.
Once that's done, go to this thread and download the newest ERIS radio available:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650121
Download it to the phone, rename it to "update.zip" and put it in the root, reboot to recovery, flash it, reboot, let it install, reboot, and wait for your phone to start up.
Give it a little bit - and you should be good to go.
Long answer short: no (not that I've seen), the HTC widgets are pretty darn exclusive.
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Thanks very much for the reply. One question though, why install it twice?
Flash it twice just to be sure. It gets rid of any stray files from the old stuff
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RyanTX said:
Thanks very much for the reply. One question though, why install it twice?
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Only needed if the phone suffers from OCD: Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder.
Complete and utter BS voodo - computers are deterministic. Sort of like saying you will do a better job at work today if you drive there three or four times "just to make sure".
The suggestion the first responder provided is no different than if you simply performed a "wipe data/factory reset" in Amon_RA.
What you really ought to try is clearing the data store for a few selected apps (Settings -> Applications -> Manage applications), rather than nuking all the user data and settings and starting all over. You might even consider making a backup so you can make several attempts at it if something doesn't work out as you expect.
Thanks for the replies.
I always nandroid before doing a ROM, especially on her phone. I just dont get why all of a sudden she had an "x" over the signal bars on her phone for an entire day, then all of a sudden it started working again. Also the htc mail force closing literally every 10 seconds.
Is there a way to backup all of her home screens, then wipe, then install xtrSense again? It takes forever to re-set up all of her screens since they are all full.
RyanTX said:
Thanks for the replies.
I always nandroid before doing a ROM, especially on her phone. I just dont get why all of a sudden she had an "x" over the signal bars on her phone for an entire day, then all of a sudden it started working again. Also the htc mail force closing literally every 10 seconds.
Is there a way to backup all of her home screens, then wipe, then install xtrSense again? It takes forever to re-set up all of her screens since they are all full.
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I'll admit that the signal issue is a little strange (but you didn't mention whether it comes right back after rebooting, or whether you checked to see if airplane mode had been toggled on accidentally).
Have you tried clearing the application data and cache for the HTC Mail App to see if that changes anything?
The HTC version of Sense had a thing called "Themes" that you could create - but it didn't save them to the SD card, so if you did a factory reset (or a wipe), you would lose all your themes. Kind of stupid, really; but then again, making those settings survive a ROM replacement (or factory reset) wasn't part of HTC's requirements.
I think you are kind of stuck, unless xtrSense uses a 3rd-party launcher. (For instance, ADW and Launcher Pro have means to backup your home screens) Apps, emails, contacts, bookmarks, and SMS/MMS messages can all be backed up using 3rd-Party (market) apps for those purposes, but I will agree with you - restoring a Sense ROM takes some time.
bftb0 said:
I'll admit that the signal issue is a little strange (but you didn't mention whether it comes right back after rebooting, or whether you checked to see if airplane mode had been toggled on accidentally).
Have you tried clearing the application data and cache for the HTC Mail App to see if that changes anything?
The HTC version of Sense had a thing called "Themes" that you could create - but it didn't save them to the SD card, so if you did a factory reset (or a wipe), you would lose all your themes. Kind of stupid, really; but then again, making those settings survive a ROM replacement (or factory reset) wasn't part of HTC's requirements.
I think you are kind of stuck, unless xtrSense uses a 3rd-party launcher. (For instance, ADW and Launcher Pro have means to backup your home screens) Apps, emails, contacts, bookmarks, and SMS/MMS messages can all be backed up using 3rd-Party (market) apps for those purposes, but I will agree with you - restoring a Sense ROM takes some time.
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This should really be a reply to RyanTX, but I was lazy.
My Backup Root (free on the market - make sure and look for ROOT version, not My Backup Pro which costs $) will backup your home screens.
The only problem with any program that backs up your home screens, including Launcher Pro or ADW (at least it used to be - let me know if anything's changed) is that due to restrictions made by Google, they will NOT restore widgets, only everything else, which pretty much defeats the usefullness of the ability IMHO.
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This should really be a reply to RyanTX, but I was lazy.
My Backup Root (free on the market - make sure and look for ROOT version, not My Backup Pro which costs $) will backup your home screens.
The only problem with any program that backs up your home screens, including Launcher Pro or ADW (at least it used to be - let me know if anything's changed) is that due to restrictions made by Google, they will NOT restore widgets, only everything else, which pretty much defeats the usefullness of the ability IMHO.
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Even the "built in" ADW backup/restore method won't handle widgets, so maybe it is an Google API thing, I don't know. OTOH, I have 7 home pages with only 4 widgets in use, so I find that backup/restore darned handy - even if I have to fix up a few widgets manually, it still saves me plenty of time. You're right, it would be great if it worked perfectly - but a little bit (or a lot in my case) is better than nothing at all.
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Even the "built in" ADW backup/restore method won't handle widgets, so maybe it is an Google API thing, I don't know. OTOH, I have 7 home pages with only 4 widgets in use, so I find that backup/restore darned handy - even if I have to fix up a few widgets manually, it still saves me plenty of time. You're right, it would be great if it worked perfectly - but a little bit (or a lot in my case) is better than nothing at all.
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True. I guess as long as someone isn't like I used to be; I used to have 20+ widgets over several home screens. Now I like to keep things simple, I only have six things, and only on one screen, although five of the six are widgets.

[GSB] Problems/Question

I recently upgraded to GSB v2.1 from my previously non-rooted bog standard Eris and am amazed by what I had been missing out for. I'm still pretty much a complete newbie to the whole custom ROM thing though, and have a few questions that may be quite stupid.
1) I'm getting force close crashes w/ the Facebook app. It'll load for a second and I'll see my news page, then force close comes up. Do I just need to reinstall or ... ? Edit: Facebook seems to be loading now, without force close issues. The problem was very repeatable (every time I tried to open the app!) last night, but seems gone today. Ah well, good riddance!
2) While trying to play a vid from Youtube, the sound is working flawlessly but the video doesn't seem to be advancing. I can move forward manually but all I get are still pictures from the video. This is using the browser that came with GSB; I haven't yet tried to get any other apps.
3) My wife's phone seriously needs this too, but she's leery of wiping her phone of apps. What's the best way to backup apps from a non-rooted Eris?
Thanks in advance for any answers you guys can provide!
Download titanium backup for the apps I'm new at this too I'm unsure about your problems with Facebook and YouTube did you wipe the dalvik cache?
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I did wipe the cache, although like I said, I haven't put any apps on here yet, so no harm in just wiping it all again and reflashing the rom to make sure it works. Thanks for the titanium backup tip!
No problem gsb is a great rom these Eris devs do awesome work I use gsb 2.0 no problems I'm trying Ginger tazz now I think battery life may be a little better but both are excellent. You should totally hook your wife's phone up too
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caliberx said:
I recently upgraded to GSB v2.1 from my previously non-rooted bog standard Eris and am amazed by what I had been missing out for. I'm still pretty much a complete newbie to the whole custom ROM thing though, and have a few questions that may be quite stupid.
1) I'm getting force close crashes w/ the Facebook app. It'll load for a second and I'll see my news page, then force close comes up. Do I just need to reinstall or ... ? Edit: Facebook seems to be loading now, without force close issues. The problem was very repeatable (every time I tried to open the app!) last night, but seems gone today. Ah well, good riddance!
2) While trying to play a vid from Youtube, the sound is working flawlessly but the video doesn't seem to be advancing. I can move forward manually but all I get are still pictures from the video. This is using the browser that came with GSB; I haven't yet tried to get any other apps.
3) My wife's phone seriously needs this too, but she's leery of wiping her phone of apps. What's the best way to backup apps from a non-rooted Eris?
Thanks in advance for any answers you guys can provide!
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I think the Youtube thing is a known issue, and I'm guessing that it's just because Cyanogen Mod 7 isn't completely done yet, so maybe it'll be worked out over time.
caliberx said:
I did wipe the cache, although like I said, I haven't put any apps on here yet, so no harm in just wiping it all again and reflashing the rom to make sure it works. Thanks for the titanium backup tip!
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Just to let you know, you can wipe the Dalvik cache any time you want to, even after loading apps. It'll just longer to rebuild it when you reboot, but it can help solve issues sometimes.
Welcome to rooting!
That's great to hear! Well, it's not great that youtube doesn't work 100%, but at least it's not some weird problem particular to me. Lol.
I have to say, I really really have grown to like this ROM very fast. My wife is clamoring for it even knowing she's gonna lose all her apps. Any tips on how I set my contacts to import Facebook profile pics now? I did it before, but have no clue where that was or where it may have moved to now.
caliberx said:
That's great to hear! Well, it's not great that youtube doesn't work 100%, but at least it's not some weird problem particular to me. Lol.
I have to say, I really really have grown to like this ROM very fast. My wife is clamoring for it even knowing she's gonna lose all her apps. Any tips on how I set my contacts to import Facebook profile pics now? I did it before, but have no clue where that was or where it may have moved to now.
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best option i found for backing up my wife's apps before flashing from stock was to use "universal androot" to root (it is a software root so there is no rebooting or flashing or really any risk of loosing aps). then you can install titanium backup. it will even backup protected files since you have root. when titanium backup loads, hit menu->batch and pick the backup all new apps and newer versions. after flashing, load titanium backup, menu-> batch and pick restore all missing apps (i restored them with data, but many people have had to install the app only and then put back in the other info). FYI i rooted several (5) phones this way. if you install rom manager from the market and install a recovery (clockwork or amon's) from the rom manager, you can turn phone off, then hold vol down and power on to boot to recovery. from there you can wipe and flash. it is the easiest way to root and flash a new rom imho.
sorry figured i should answer your post i quoted. lol. if under menu-> accounts and sync->add account->facebook. input your info and select sync all or sync current contacts. it should pull in the information. if you have different names for people in your contacts and your facebook (ex "wife" in your contacts and "jane" on facebook) you can "sync all contacts" and manually link them. contacts->long press on contact->edit contact->menu->join. this should link you contacts with their facebook info. the facebook pics will sync it just takes a good bit of time sometimes.

[Q] screen size wrong in apps after rooting

I rooted my EVO 3d. I used the HTC unlock and TWP. I can load roms at will. I have now tried 3 different ones (viper, Miui, Synergy) and keep getting the same problem. When i open an app the screen size is all wrong. Usually the right side of the screen can be overlapped or a black bar (about half an inch) is there. I guess i could live with the smaller screen, but it also throws the touch off. If i go to click a button in the app, i have to aim above or beside where i really want to aim.
At first i thought it was the first rom i tried, but i reloaded it. no luck. So now I've tried all sorts of versions of Factory resets, wiping cache, wiping dalvik and installed 2 more roms. All of them give me the same result.
At this point I have to assume there's a setting off? or something still on the SDcard that is holding some setting? Or is this a known issue with EVO 3d rooting? I find that hard to believe or no one would be rooting as it pretty much makes apps unusable. Normal things like Facebook I think are okay, but any app I buy and load seems off.
When the apps start up, if there's a video clip or a logo splash screen, i'm fine. Once it goes into the actual app, I lose my size.
At this point I'm about to unroot and go back to Sprint factory setup, but I like the Miui Rom I have on there now and would prefer to keep it if i can fix my problem.
Sorry if this is a doulbe post, i've spent days googling this, trying to fix it myself, going through every app on my phone looking for a setting doing this and at this point I need someone's expert advice.
Thanks!
all apps or just one in particular? because some apps still arent formatted for qHD displays
Every one I've tested so far. Ones that were fine prior to rooting.
Try downloading Spareparts and uncheck compatibility mode.

Eclipse vs CM7DX2

So, i'm running Eclipse 2.0 on my DX2 right now, and i flashed it after trying CM7. CM7 was great, but felt sluggish at times (admittedly I don't believe that I had the "allow purging of assets" enabled at the time either). So after flashing the brand new Eclipse 2.0, I felt like Eclipse was so much more complete, even though it is blur-based. Now, however, after about 3 weeks it's getting sluggish at random times for no reason. There's no apparently eating up the CPU. I always have 80+ MBs of RAM (I'm running Supercharger V6 with the middle (unleaded?) option for 512mb devices selected). I can't seem to pinpoint the problem. So here's where I pose 2 questions:
Eclipse or CM7DX2 (and your reasoning, if you can)
And any ideas on the sluggish performance? I've had this happen on previous ROMs too (older Eclipse models and stock gingerbread w/ bloat removed). I always SBF and wipe data/cache before each fresh ROM install.
Thanks!
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Boardwalk30 said:
So, i'm running Eclipse 2.0 on my DX2 right now, and i flashed it after trying CM7. CM7 was great, but felt sluggish at times (admittedly I don't believe that I had the "allow purging of assets" enabled at the time either). So after flashing the brand new Eclipse 2.0, I felt like Eclipse was so much more complete, even though it is blur-based. Now, however, after about 3 weeks it's getting sluggish at random times for no reason. There's no apparently eating up the CPU. I always have 80+ MBs of RAM (I'm running Supercharger V6 with the middle (unleaded?) option for 512mb devices selected). I can't seem to pinpoint the problem. So here's where I pose 2 questions:
Eclipse or CM7DX2 (and your reasoning, if you can)
And any ideas on the sluggish performance? I've had this happen on previous ROMs too (older Eclipse models and stock gingerbread w/ bloat removed). I always SBF and wipe data/cache before each fresh ROM install.
Thanks!
Eclipsed from my DX2
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Wow, I'm really surprised to hear Eclipse is running sluggishly. I've been running it for a while now and it's completely reliable, the epitome of a "daily driver". Are you running any funky apps or getting apps from fringe markets?
I've found either one can get sluggish, especially if you have a ton of apps loaded.
What I've been doing now is rebooting daily. I'm also running Fast Reboot Pro, which is really more of a "soft" reboot - it doesn't really reboot the phone, per se, but instead it "simulates" a reboot by stopping many services and programs that wouldn't be running at start up.
I myself have a lot of apps installed. I should probably go and remove them, but for some reason, I like to have them loaded (mainly games) just in case I want to play them. OCD anyone?
In any case, I was running CM7 and I'm now running Eclipse 2.1. I've found that I've had the problems in either one which required a reboot. I just switched to Eclipse 2.1 because I found it a wee-bit more stable (no Superuser issues like in CM7) and Eclipse 2.1 has a even more Motoblur crap removed. It's just as responsive as CM7 IMHO.
But, in any case, a daily reboot will fix things and I'm hearing from many that this is almost global across the board with any ROM for the DX2. I think what really hurts the DX2 is the 512mb of main memory. Just pitiful compared to other phones out there.
I've also found running V6 Turbocharger scripts (the latest) helps as well. I've enabled options 6 and 20. Now, this is fine for Eclipse, but you don't want to run it with CM7. At least, that's what I've been told.
Anyways, when I find things get sluggish, I run the Fast Reboot Pro AND, since I'm running Go Launcher EX, I'll got into the "Running Programs" tab in the app drawer and close all the apps in there as well.
If that doesn't help, I then run V6 TC and run option 18 (which recoups RAM and kills lag). If that doesn't help, then I will reboot.
I also forgot to mention, I also use an application called Autostarts. It allows you to choose which apps start up based on a system event (during startup, after startup, USB connection/disconnect, WiFi status change, etc). I've found that a LOT of apps that I've installed start up on some various events. Many games apparently like to connect when they sense there is a data connection present, so I've turned those off. I only want the apps running when I actually launch them. With Autostarts, I have been able to finely control what apps start and when, which has helped as well.
go into BSR and wipe cache and dalvik cache
lemme know if that clears up Ya,lag
it worked for someone else and I've used that method before to clear up lagging issues...
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also, you know eclipse has a 2.1 version out now correct?
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iBolski said:
I've found either one can get sluggish, especially if you have a ton of apps loaded.
What I've been doing now is rebooting daily. I'm also running Fast Reboot Pro, which is really more of a "soft" reboot - it doesn't really reboot the phone, per se, but instead it "simulates" a reboot by stopping many services and programs that wouldn't be running at start up.
I myself have a lot of apps installed. I should probably go and remove them, but for some reason, I like to have them loaded (mainly games) just in case I want to play them. OCD anyone?
In any case, I was running CM7 and I'm now running Eclipse 2.1. I've found that I've had the problems in either one which required a reboot. I just switched to Eclipse 2.1 because I found it a wee-bit more stable (no Superuser issues like in CM7) and Eclipse 2.1 has a even more Motoblur crap removed. It's just as responsive as CM7 IMHO.
But, in any case, a daily reboot will fix things and I'm hearing from many that this is almost global across the board with any ROM for the DX2. I think what really hurts the DX2 is the 512mb of main memory. Just pitiful compared to other phones out there.
I've also found running V6 Turbocharger scripts (the latest) helps as well. I've enabled options 6 and 20. Now, this is fine for Eclipse, but you don't want to run it with CM7. At least, that's what I've been told.
Anyways, when I find things get sluggish, I run the Fast Reboot Pro AND, since I'm running Go Launcher EX, I'll got into the "Running Programs" tab in the app drawer and close all the apps in there as well.
If that doesn't help, I then run V6 TC and run option 18 (which recoups RAM and kills lag). If that doesn't help, then I will reboot.
I also forgot to mention, I also use an application called Autostarts. It allows you to choose which apps start up based on a system event (during startup, after startup, USB connection/disconnect, WiFi status change, etc). I've found that a LOT of apps that I've installed start up on some various events. Many games apparently like to connect when they sense there is a data connection present, so I've turned those off. I only want the apps running when I actually launch them. With Autostarts, I have been able to finely control what apps start and when, which has helped as well.
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I agree wholeheartedly with the above statement, they are nearly equals in every respect except for SU and most of the time it depends on the user. You will have your own opinions of what you like and dislike in a ROM.
I have always liked Cyanogenmod and I have nothing against Eclipse, it was something that really saved the X2 for me, I was super POed when I found that there was so little to be done with my phone last August when I upgraded to it.
IMHO I would stick with Eclipse just because it is more stable, Cyanogen was a great release from the norm of Moto based ROMS but it is missing a few things since we cannot build it specifically for our phone as easily as everyone else.
Personally though, I hate you guys for being able to flash things right now and I really, really cannot wait for this F-ing soak to come through so I can either join you on 2.1 or have a really fancy paper weight.....
I've been running Eclipse for months, 2.1 for a few weeks now, best version yet. I run it with the build prop mash up, its always fast and responsive. However there are a couple things I do to help ensure that.
1. I schedule "Clear cache for user & system apps" in TB to run daily at 4:30 AM while I'm sleeping which is 30 minutes after my daily backup runs. After the cache clean it reboots. When I get up at 5:30 its usually quick and responsive all day.
2. Use the Moto performance manager built into Eclipse parts, schedule things that you don't want or need running in the background to auto-end (kills the app 2 minutes after the screen shuts off) This really helps with battery life as well, I can usually get 20+ hours of light/moderate use and it helps manage those apps that like to turn themselves on in the background.
3. I use Avast for security, but I also use the firewall feature to restrict network access of games & apps that don't need it.
4. I keep any apps/games I don't use regularly uninstalled, which I can quickly restore from TB if I need them. That seems to really help to as my wife had every free app of the day from amazon installed on hers and it was constantly locking/freezing. she cleaned most of them up and did the auto-end trick and hers has come back to life.
These are just suggestions but I've been using them for months now and they really work well to maximize the X2 as much as we can given the restrictions we have on it. Goodluck.
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I've found either one can get sluggish, especially if you have a ton of apps loaded.
What I've been doing now is rebooting daily. I'm also running Fast Reboot Pro, which is really more of a "soft" reboot - it doesn't really reboot the phone, per se, but instead it "simulates" a reboot by stopping many services and programs that wouldn't be running at start up.
I myself have a lot of apps installed. I should probably go and remove them, but for some reason, I like to have them loaded (mainly games) just in case I want to play them. OCD anyone?
In any case, I was running CM7 and I'm now running Eclipse 2.1. I've found that I've had the problems in either one which required a reboot. I just switched to Eclipse 2.1 because I found it a wee-bit more stable (no Superuser issues like in CM7) and Eclipse 2.1 has a even more Motoblur crap removed. It's just as responsive as CM7 IMHO.
But, in any case, a daily reboot will fix things and I'm hearing from many that this is almost global across the board with any ROM for the DX2. I think what really hurts the DX2 is the 512mb of main memory. Just pitiful compared to other phones out there.
I've also found running V6 Turbocharger scripts (the latest) helps as well. I've enabled options 6 and 20. Now, this is fine for Eclipse, but you don't want to run it with CM7. At least, that's what I've been told.
Anyways, when I find things get sluggish, I run the Fast Reboot Pro AND, since I'm running Go Launcher EX, I'll got into the "Running Programs" tab in the app drawer and close all the apps in there as well.
If that doesn't help, I then run V6 TC and run option 18 (which recoups RAM and kills lag). If that doesn't help, then I will reboot.
I also forgot to mention, I also use an application called Autostarts. It allows you to choose which apps start up based on a system event (during startup, after startup, USB connection/disconnect, WiFi status change, etc). I've found that a LOT of apps that I've installed start up on some various events. Many games apparently like to connect when they sense there is a data connection present, so I've turned those off. I only want the apps running when I actually launch them. With Autostarts, I have been able to finely control what apps start and when, which has helped as well.
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iBolski, the similarities between yours and my "phone management" techniques scare me lol.
pretty much everything you have said I do as well, including leaving games installed just in case I wanna play one day lmao
I just wanted to add to the point you made about rebooting once every day, this is something that it's not only recommended for the Dx2 but for ALL, Android powered phones in general, I do believe it is also written in the "manual", that comes with the devices, kinda like how a PC needs a reboot once in a while, Android benefits from a reboot once a day as well, allows it to drop system caches that have built up and are hanging around and such,
that fast reboot app I have also used in the past, but nothing compares to an, accrual power cycle of the device, I will even go ahead and wipe cache from Android recovery as well once every couple days,
our set UPS are most likely extremely similar and I've found I get pretty damn near the most I can get out of this x2, I feel like the only thing else I could benefit from is a new kernel, as I've pretty much tweaked this thing to the max I can get while locked down
ashclepdia said:
iBolski, the similarities between yours and my "phone management" techniques scare me lol.
pretty much everything you have said I do as well, including leaving games installed just in case I wanna play one day lmao
I just wanted to add to the point you made about rebooting once every day, this is something that it's not only recommended for the Dx2 but for ALL, Android powered phones in general, I do believe it is also written in the "manual", that comes with the devices, kinda like how a PC needs a reboot once in a while, Android benefits from a reboot once a day as well, allows it to drop system caches that have built up and are hanging around and such,
that fast reboot app I have also used in the past, but nothing compares to an, accrual power cycle of the device, I will even go ahead and wipe cache from Android recovery as well once every couple days,
our set UPS are most likely extremely similar and I've found I get pretty damn near the most I can get out of this x2, I feel like the only thing else I could benefit from is a new kernel, as I've pretty much tweaked this thing to the max I can get while locked down
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I think we're so similar due to the fact that I've seen you tell people to do this, so I'm just following your instructions. Scary, huh?
Also, Orange Terror gave a great tip that I didn't even know existed in Titanium Backup Pr. Goes to show you can always learn something new since I've used TBU for about two years now. I've gone in and set up a schedule to clear user and app cache and reboot the system every day around 4 am. At 3 am, I have it backup and upload to my Box account. Now I don't have to worry about doing that myself or missing a backup.
But I think the big thing that has helped me out now is also the Autostarts app. Going through and having it ensure certain apps don't launch under various scenarios has definitely caused my phone to be MUCH more responsive now.
Like you, it's allowed this crap X2 to actually be functional, along with Eclipse 2.1 and/or CM7. With DZK and Nitro, I'm not sure where this phone would be. Probably thrown against the wall and shattered into a million pieces!
iBolski said:
I think we're so similar due to the fact that I've seen you tell people to do this, so I'm just following your instructions. Scary, huh?
Also, Orange Terror gave a great tip that I didn't even know existed in Titanium Backup Pr. Goes to show you can always learn something new since I've used TBU for about two years now. I've gone in and set up a schedule to clear user and app cache and reboot the system every day around 4 am. At 3 am, I have it backup and upload to my Box account. Now I don't have to worry about doing that myself or missing a backup.
But I think the big thing that has helped me out now is also the Autostarts app. Going through and having it ensure certain apps don't launch under various scenarios has definitely caused my phone to be MUCH more responsive now.
Like you, it's allowed this crap X2 to actually be functional, along with Eclipse 2.1 and/or CM7. With DZK and Nitro, I'm not sure where this phone would be. Probably thrown against the wall and shattered into a million pieces!
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Amen to that. Thanks to Nitro, DZK and anyone that has contributed something.
I've been trying to start synching to box through TBU recently, but I can't schedule it to run automatically and when I try to run it manually after an hour its at like 20%, and I'm doing it on wifi. And it won't upload to my dropbox account at all, just sits there. Any suggestions?
iBolski said:
I think we're so similar due to the fact that I've seen you tell people to do this, so I'm just following your instructions. Scary, huh?
Also, Orange Terror gave a great tip that I didn't even know existed in Titanium Backup Pr. Goes to show you can always learn something new since I've used TBU for about two years now. I've gone in and set up a schedule to clear user and app cache and reboot the system every day around 4 am. At 3 am, I have it backup and upload to my Box account. Now I don't have to worry about doing that myself or missing a backup.
But I think the big thing that has helped me out now is also the Autostarts app. Going through and having it ensure certain apps don't launch under various scenarios has definitely caused my phone to be MUCH more responsive now.
Like you, it's allowed this crap X2 to actually be functional, along with Eclipse 2.1 and/or CM7. With DZK and Nitro, I'm not sure where this phone would be. Probably thrown against the wall and shattered into a million pieces!
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lol
well I know quote a few people seem to trust my set up lol
that auto starts app sound like it worth checking into also, thanks for the tip!
Thanks for all the responses guys! It's great to see some insight as to what everybody does on their daily schedule.
1. Yes, i do know there is 2.1, I just haven't had the time/availability to upgrade (until tonight, so i'll probably be doing that).
2. I'm admittedly bad at keeping a LOT of apps installed feeling like i'll need to use them, probably would be better off if i just kept them either frozen or only kept a backup.
3. As with you, iBolski, i've been running option 6 in V6 and that definitely helps a lot.
4. I'll have to try the nightly cache clearing, i usually just manually do it when i feel the phone is laggy.
Also, what launchers do you guys use? Just outta curiosity. I personally use LauncherProPlus. Yeah, the development is dead, but I've been using it since my OG Droid days, and it's served me excellently ever since. I don't need beauty in a launcher, just raw speed and a small footprint.
Thanks again!
Boardwalk30 said:
Thanks for all the responses guys! It's great to see some insight as to what everybody does on their daily schedule.
1. Yes, i do know there is 2.1, I just haven't had the time/availability to upgrade (until tonight, so i'll probably be doing that).
2. I'm admittedly bad at keeping a LOT of apps installed feeling like i'll need to use them, probably would be better off if i just kept them either frozen or only kept a backup.
3. As with you, iBolski, i've been running option 6 in V6 and that definitely helps a lot.
4. I'll have to try the nightly cache clearing, i usually just manually do it when i feel the phone is laggy.
Also, what launchers do you guys use? Just outta curiosity. I personally use LauncherProPlus. Yeah, the development is dead, but I've been using it since my OG Droid days, and it's served me excellently ever since. I don't need beauty in a launcher, just raw speed and a small footprint.
Thanks again!
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just a tip for when you update to 2.1
you really shouldn't need to wipe data, I haven't wiped data once when updating from 2.0> 2.xand I have had zero issues,
also, nitro has added a couple features/options to the stock eclipse launcher which are nice, u can choose amount of home screens, infinite loop, uninstall app when u long press then hold it over the trash can for a second (pretty useful, no more needing To go into manage apps to uninstall apps)
if ya wanna venture from that I recommend adw ex or go launcher ex(nitro has an eclipse theme in the market for go launcher in case ya wanna support him (it's like a buck) and wanna keep an eclipse theme with a different launcher that has more options)
either that or just do a quick market search or Google search for "light weight launcher" to get some nice options, there's an almost endless list of launchers to try, I've spent hours trying different launchers and still haven't touched half of them lol, there is so many choices it's crazy, there is something for every type of user, from minimalistic launcher to fancy ones like spb shell and such
Boardwalk30 said:
Thanks for all the responses guys! It's great to see some insight as to what everybody does on their daily schedule.
1. Yes, i do know there is 2.1, I just haven't had the time/availability to upgrade (until tonight, so i'll probably be doing that).
2. I'm admittedly bad at keeping a LOT of apps installed feeling like i'll need to use them, probably would be better off if i just kept them either frozen or only kept a backup.
3. As with you, iBolski, i've been running option 6 in V6 and that definitely helps a lot.
4. I'll have to try the nightly cache clearing, i usually just manually do it when i feel the phone is laggy.
Thanks again!
Also, what launchers do you guys use? Just outta curiosity. I personally use LauncherProPlus. Yeah, the development is dead, but I've been using it since my OG Droid days, and it's served me excellently ever since. I don't need beauty in a launcher, just raw speed and a small footprint.
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I'm using Go Launcher EX myself. Have been since I ran an LG Vortex (now THAT was a SLOW phone but man, as far as music goes, it never skipped unlike the X2. Sad since it's an ARM6 600mhz single-core phone AND it had an unlocked bootloader so I could overclock the thing!).
For launchers I started with pro launcher. Then ended up with go launcher for a while. Now I am using adw ex. However I really like the new work nitro did with pro launcher. I would of stayed on it except for the 3D app drawer. Don't get me wrong it looks awesome and I used to use similar app drawer with the shell launcher but it triggers my vertigo.
Boardwalk30 said:
Thanks for all the responses guys! It's great to see some insight as to what everybody does on their daily schedule.
1. Yes, i do know there is 2.1, I just haven't had the time/availability to upgrade (until tonight, so i'll probably be doing that).
2. I'm admittedly bad at keeping a LOT of apps installed feeling like i'll need to use them, probably would be better off if i just kept them either frozen or only kept a backup.
3. As with you, iBolski, i've been running option 6 in V6 and that definitely helps a lot.
4. I'll have to try the nightly cache clearing, i usually just manually do it when i feel the phone is laggy.
Also, what launchers do you guys use? Just outta curiosity. I personally use LauncherProPlus. Yeah, the development is dead, but I've been using it since my OG Droid days, and it's served me excellently ever since. I don't need beauty in a launcher, just raw speed and a small footprint.
Thanks again!
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I also use ADW EX, it has been the most consistently bug free for me depending on the settings you use it can be lightning fast or just as bad as a stock launcher, but generally it is much faster than the stock ones and it is more user friendly.
Love all the insight here. I was running cm7 for a while but now on eclipse 2.1 and I haven't wanted to go back to cm7 yet. I also usually use adw ex but have been sticking with stock launcher. This go around. I reboot my phone at least once a day. I haven't tried any scripts yet but I haven't felt the need to iether. I try too keep as few apps running as possible. I also found that after I get done charging my phone I will reboot. Seems to give me more free ram. 185mb right now.
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CM7 rocks. Once CM9 becomes stable and a beta it will most likely be the best ROM on the X2.
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I must say, after upgrading to 2.1, uninstalling 34 apps (mostly large games) that i seemingly never used, and installing the build.prop mash up, i haven't had any issues yet so far! 2.1 seems to be quite the upgrade from 2.0. Thanks to everybody who posted their experience/ideas!
I started experiencing even more lag lately and it would immediately show up even after reboot. This started happening after I set up TBU to do a nightly cache clean and reboot.
What I finally figured out was, V6 Turbocharger scripts mem settings were not sticking! They were reverting back to the default for whatever reason. It was funny because the Lag Nullifier was still active.
So, I unturbocharged and everything via the scripts and set it back up to use local.prop and that seemed to fix everything.
Another thing I did was install Autostarts to tell it what apps should NOT start when certain system events occur (during startup, after startup, media change, etc).
I also used the Motorola Performance Manager to set up most apps to be killed two minutes after the phone goes to sleep.
I reinstalled Widgetlocker and things have been running smooth all day where as before, after playing many games (like Templerun, Fruit Ninja, Sims Free to Play, etc), I would notice lag would seep in and would require a reboot to fix it.
Now, with my set up (TBU clears cache and reboots nightly, Autostarts, Motorola Performance Manager, V6 TC), things are running smooth, smoother than they have before.

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