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So HTC's two new 2.1 phones were rooted by Paul O'Brian, hours after he had his hands on them.
http://twitteling.com/2010/04/htc-desire-and-htc-legend-has-succeeded-in-the-root/
Apparently it was 'easy'. He is without internet and on vacation for two weeks, so no more details.
For Legend/Desire users it does not mean much yet, due to file systems being locked. However if this could be used on our 2.1 ROMs, we would be wide open.
Did we miss something simple? If you have time, and willingness please join me in looking for something simple, that could of been overlooked by both HTC and ourselves. This has been on my mind for days.
Several Desire owners have informed me that oem unlock is disabled just like our phones, so the n1 method is not what he used. I image the desire/legend kernel is somewhat close to our's. Like our's, no kernel source is available.
Any Shots are welcome.
Is there a way of contacting this Paul guy?
korben dallas said:
Is there a way of contacting this Paul guy?
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jcase said:
He is without internet and on vacation for two weeks, so no more details.
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sure korben if you happen to have his phone number.....
korben dallas said:
Is there a way of contacting this Paul guy?
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Not until the 20th, and even if I did have a way I wouldn't bug him on his vacation.
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Not until the 20th, and even if I did have a way I wouldn't bug him on his vacation.
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No kidding! Can't a guy get a vacation these days without people getting up his ass asking for help?
I dont want to get flamed just asking wasn't this orginally posted on April Fools Day is it possiblly a fake. I'm no expert and devs could probably look at the picture and tell?
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I dont want to get flamed just asking wasn't this orginally posted on April Fools Day is it possiblly a fake. I'm no expert and devs could probably look at the picture and tell?
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It was posted on April 1st, its not a joke.
Long time Lurker, first time poster.
I know that the roms from HTC are signed and it would be almost imposable to hack the key used to sign the roms. However have the developers looked at it from the other direction? Do we know how the Eris stores the certificate that is used to check the signed Roms? Dose the Eris use a keystore for this and is that store shared with the web browser? Would it be possible to Inject or replace the Cert in order to sign our own roms? I'm guessing not but you never know.
I'm not a dev so its ok to flame me if this is way off base or been covered before.
Also thank to all the Dev's for all of your hard work.
Derek
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well this is atleast something positive. Lets hope this guy is our savior...
I hope he's having a wonderful vacation , the dev team deserves it
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@jcase: I'm thinking he just used a pre-compiled root (asroot/m7 etc), which would be the easiest possible way to do it. We have tried pretty much all known kernel sploits a hundred different ways and the Eris kernel still stands untouched. However, if these newer phones are vulnerable to the same exploits (need official word on this from Paul), then perhaps they're not patched on Eris, but are just incompatible / working not as intended.
Bounty?
Is the bounty still alive/in effect?
Chances are he doesn't own an Eris. Then again, he might not need to...
If so, well, I'd be willing to contribute to getting one into his hands.
The second build of the leak is acting up for me. I was pretty happy with the first one actually. This is what being impatient does
It'll be awesome to see how this was done as the security on the devices seems similar to ours from the limited amount I can see...
I didn't realize he still was on vacation, I assumed he waited to report his findings until he got home.
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@jcase: I'm thinking he just used a pre-compiled root (asroot/m7 etc), which would be the easiest possible way to do it. We have tried pretty much all known kernel sploits a hundred different ways and the Eris kernel still stands untouched. However, if these newer phones are vulnerable to the same exploits (need official word on this from Paul), then perhaps they're not patched on Eris, but are just incompatible / working not as intended.
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He "found" it before ever seeing one of the phones, just a leaked rom. I think its a permissions issue that we may have overlooked in 2.1.
thawkth, about 5 minutes after he releases details, I will know if it applies to us.
I don't think anyone gives a damn about the bounty, if someone does contact caboose and pay him his dues (if he wants them), he got us the root.
I know that jcase isn't really haggin with us any more so hopefully someone will be following up with this, it sounds promising. I am keeping an eye on the OP over at modaco but I am not sure that I have the knowledge base to replicate Pual's work if he shares his exploit. Thanks
I too am hoping this guy can help us.. he is our last hope imo.... short of htc leaking something again.
Well there won't be any news today as we may have thought. Paul seems to stuck on his vacation for a few extra days thanks to the volcano.
http://twitter.com/paulobrien
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Well there won't be any news today as we may have thought. Paul seems to stuck on his vacation for a few extra days thanks to the volcano.
http://twitter.com/paulobrien
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lol.. little does he know the storm of users that are anxiously awaiting his return...
I'm wondering what is the manufacturers' goal of the devices being locked. No ability to change their **** software? Possible claims from unresponsible users?
I don't understand this world...
HTC Sense is piece of crap (changed it to n1 launcher, but it still occupies my phone's storage space),
HTC apps are piece of crap (calendar sucks, majority of widgets suck)... wish i was able to uninstall them..
Please give us root!
Some would say - buy n1 instead... but hey, I like the look of desire and it's optical trackball... if it has to be present anyway...
just talked to SE Norway, about update release, q3 here too but no official date.
BUT we came into talking about custom roms and stuff (dunno why)
and he said the main reason for making it as tricky and not sharing anything, is because they want their own dev's working on it...
wtf? is this guy a loose canon from se support, or have they actually tried blocking "you" out..?
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just talked to SE Norway, about update release, q3 here too but no official date.
BUT we came into talking about custom roms and stuff (dunno why)
and he said the main reason for making it as tricky and not sharing anything, is because they want their own dev's working on it...
wtf? is this guy a loose canon from se support, or have they actually tried blocking "you" out..?
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Sorry what are you on about?
Are you saying that SE have blocked access to the Roms, so that SE devs(the guys who work on SE roms) can try and crack their own Roms?
Your post doesn't make any sense to me.
I'm confused...... .com....
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Sorry what are you on about?
Are you saying that SE have blocked access to the Roms, so that SE devs(the guys who work on SE roms) can try and crack their own Roms?
Your post doesn't make any sense to me.
I'm confused...... .com....
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I think what he meant is that they've locked down the bootloader so that only the SE devs can work on it. They're not interested in letting the community do any work on it.
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I think what he meant is that they've locked down the bootloader so that only the SE devs can work on it. They're not interested in letting the community do any work on it.
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That's what I understood from the OP as well.
I'd be fine with that stance if SE actually supported their product with new development, but they don't seem to have much interest in doing so, if the 6-month wait for part of 2.1 and no official plan for 2.2 is any indication.
If they're not willing to support their products, then they should allow the community to do it.
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I think what he meant is that they've locked down the bootloader so that only the SE devs can work on it. They're not interested in letting the community do any work on it.
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Aah sorry, my bad. They're w*****s.
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SE are thinking in business terms. X10 is not bad in terms of hardware. So to sell X11 or whatever they come up with, they'll probably advertise as Froyo device to grab people.
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SE are thinking in business terms. X10 is not bad in terms of hardware. So to sell X11 or whatever they come up with, they'll probably advertise as Froyo device to grab people.
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That's fine in the short-term, but their stunting their long-term growth (which is what they should be looking at... especially after stating they want to be the #1 Android manufacturer) by alienating their current users. If they don't support their products, people won't come back to when replacement time comes. This goes on for long enough, and word spreads so new customers shy away from their products due to poor reputation.
Just ask GM how well this philosophy works on the long-term.
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I think what he meant is that they've locked down the bootloader so that only the SE devs can work on it. They're not interested in letting the community do any work on it.
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yes, thats what i meant, and don't that kind of go against the open source concept`?
sorry i made it unclear first post, didnt thing i did...
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yes, thats what i meant, and don't that kind of go against the open source concept`?
sorry i made it unclear first post, didnt thing i did...
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I agree, it goes against everything Android should be about. Android is supposed to be open and an interesting place for us hackers. That was partof the idea when it was started; to be more open than iOS and Symbian.
But SE also has the right to keep it locked down the way they do. They're not interested in either the open source movement or even Google. They're interested in making money and for that they picked Android since it's the best OS they can use. And if you're only after selling phones then having the community mess around with the phone isn't an advantage.
The fact that we can't do what we please with the phone sucks but SE has all the right in the world to do so. It's something I knew when I bought it, if I wanted a phone I could hack the software in I would've gotten myself an HTC phone or the Nexus One.
I'm completely satisfied with my phone, it works great for that. Anything else like an open bootloader or custom ROMs are just bonuses.
That's true, even though I don't like to admit it...
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I agree, it goes against everything Android should be about. Android is supposed to be open and an interesting place for us hackers. That was partof the idea when it was started; to be more open than iOS and Symbian.
But SE.. ...it works great for that. Anything else like an open bootloader or custom ROMs are just bonuses.
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yes was aware of every aspect of the phone, and while i trust SE to have good devs on it, and im sure it will be just fine, it already is really.
but to actually pay dev's for "locking"(yeah i know, for all you spell checkers its not locked in that sense) an os that promotes it self by beeing free and open, i mean seriously, thats just.. yeah..
but love the phone...
t- mye styr under det svenske valget i år:O
Guys, you're forgetting it's all a conspiracy against american phone users.LOL
Considering US and Canadian consumers aren't spending any money at the moment, SE's strategy is appropriate.
SE's totally being Samsung with the whole support/update issue..
most ppl say oh don't get a samsung phone cuz in 2 mth, they are just gonna come out with a better phone than yours and stop supporting ur phone and it will be garbage..
and look at what SE's doing now..
actually.. ppl who went with sgs have it better now i guess.. at least they are getting timely updates. .and froyo.. i guess they are stepping up to be a better company (not by much.. but still)
come on SE, stop fxxing around
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SE's totally being Samsung with the whole support/update issue..
most ppl say oh don't get a samsung phone cuz in 2 mth, they are just gonna come out with a better phone than yours and stop supporting ur phone and it will be garbage..
and look at what SE's doing now..
actually.. ppl who went with sgs have it better now i guess.. at least they are getting timely updates. .and froyo.. i guess they are stepping up to be a better company (not by much.. but still)
come on SE, stop fxxing around
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yeah, but 2.1 doesn't look as good on a ugly ass samsung
mayamo said:
SE's totally being Samsung with the whole support/update issue..
most ppl say oh don't get a samsung phone cuz in 2 mth, they are just gonna come out with a better phone than yours and stop supporting ur phone and it will be garbage..
and look at what SE's doing now..
actually.. ppl who went with sgs have it better now i guess.. at least they are getting timely updates. .and froyo.. i guess they are stepping up to be a better company (not by much.. but still)
come on SE, stop fxxing around
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Well !! Now Samsung has got there own problems !!
http://www.gsmarena.com/froyo_update_for_samsung_i9000_galaxy_s_delayed_until_october-news-1948.php
I am waiting for the devs !!
yeah but that's a FROYO update in october..
apparently SE's postponing out ECLAIR update to the end of october... u know what that means..
Perhaps asking SE devs for help could work. Not for inside info or anything but perhaps we could work out a deal. The market for custom ROM's is minimal it wouldn't impact their profit margins in any way, it's not like everyone would use the feature.
Here's my reasoning:
It's safe to assume that the devs over there have a similar mindset to our own, they're hackers. Perhaps we could work out a deal where we could get fastboot and the ability to flash unsigned stuff in exchange for something like voiding the warranty or perhaps even signing an NDA or the like.
It's optimistic but at this point it feels like we have nothing to lose. Appealing to their developers might just work, they're human after all.
Any thoughts?
I say we find one that is wiling to give us the test 2.1 rom or the info on how to crack the bootloader and pay him, create a thread like the bounty for the devs but for a dev of SE or a person with the 2.1 rom. I am sure a lot of people will pay $10-$20 and well get a few thousand quite fast. If i was an SE dev and someone offered me $2000-$3000 for the info on cracking the bootloader i would surely find a way to leak it anonymously or somthing like that.
Hint: check LinkedIn for former SE software developers
These are great ideas, guys! I don't know who to ask for help though...
What happened to Nonsensikal??????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745603
??!?!??!?!?!
Not sure.. he relased 10.1 then the next day the forum stated removed. Some info would be nice, but i haven't seen anything all week till you posted this.
Weird, he has had by far, IMO, the best ROM I have used.
He pull the rom off of XDA for "personal reasons". No idea what that exactly entails.
http://androidforums.com/eris-all-t...ensikal-blue-vanilla-black-3.html#post1763864
It's a mystery ... Google Nonsensikal and you can still find his rom.
Listy said he's moved on. No more rom making. 10.1 was his last, he's now doing apps and other things and I believe he is getting a new device. It's a shame but eventually all our devs and porters will go.
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Really workshed, going to be an ass about it??? I use XDA for 99% of my android info.
Thanks Fender for the update....
56K said:
Really workshed, going to be an ass about it??? I use XDA for 99% of my android info.
Thanks Fender for the update....
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I didnt see anything "ass" like about workshed's post ... I think he was just telling you it is still out there available for download.
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Really workshed, going to be an ass about it??? I use XDA for 99% of my android info.
Thanks Fender for the update....
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Really 56k, over sensitive much? How's that being an ass? If he wanted us to know the details, which I do as he PM'd me about it, then he would have stated why in his thread before he removed it, but he didn't right? lol, so without mentioning the other forum, or directly linking to it, I suggested using google...
Grow up.
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Really 56k, over sensitive much? How's that being an ass? If he wanted us to know the details, which I do as he PM'd me about it, then he would have stated why in his thread before he removed it, but he didn't right? lol, so without mentioning the other forum, or directly linking to it, I suggested using google...
Grow up.
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I asked a question, and you answered it like an ass. That is all. Fender answered it, very well.
Who cares if you mention another forum. Most people come here will continue to come here.
Moving on....
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I asked a question, and you answered it like an ass. That is all. Fender answered it, very well.
Who cares if you mention another forum. Most people come here will continue to come here.
Moving on....
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Like I said... lol
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I asked a question, and you answered it like an ass. That is all. Fender answered it, very well.
Who cares if you mention another forum. Most people come here will continue to come here.
Moving on....
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MY opinion...you come off looking like an ass here ....
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I asked a question, and you answered it like an ass. That is all. Fender answered it, very well.
Who cares if you mention another forum. Most people come here will continue to come here.
Moving on....
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come on man , lighten up ,, people cuzing issues around here is one of the reasons devs leaves ,,TRUST Me!!! when i first started this there were a few people who gave me **** for doing nuthing but makin a rom WHICH i dont even use cuz i dont use the phone for personal use , i have my droid x for that
bottom line we cant make eveyone happy and sometimes its just best to move on as he did ,, not sayin thats y he left but people have pushed me towards the door
....hope we don't lose any more developers. Our phone is discontinued and I've got another year left on my contract. I just read a forum that we're no longer get ANY OTA's. If you downgrade, you must flash back up.
Just curious, why'd the ShadowRom guys leave? I know there was some disagreement about linking to their site, but hell I'll download their rom, sign it (for amon ra people) and post to XDA if that's the only issue. I like to flash and experiment. I want as many options as possible for our EOL devices.
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He pull the rom off of XDA for "personal reasons". No idea what that exactly entails.
http://androidforums.com/eris-all-t...ensikal-blue-vanilla-black-3.html#post1763864
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Thanks for the update. Hopefully we still have devs around for a little while longer.. like the other guy stated.. i still have a year left till an upgrade.. lol.. and factory just doesn't cut it with an Eris
Hmm
This happens more often than I care to count. I hate, that for whatever reason, developers keep leaving.
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This happens more often than I care to count. I hate, that for whatever reason, developers keep leaving.
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It is the nature of the beast. These fancy pocket computers we have now just don't seem to last long before there's something that is so much more capable out there. And when you sell your current phone and add the 1 or 2 year discounts up, it's hard not to move on.
Besides... There are more up and coming devs than you probably realize. It takes time to learn this stuff.
Oh here we go again. Internet argument. Grabs popcorn
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Y'all talk about this like it's the end of the world. Look at all the old WinMo phones that still have active development here! What about the G1? That was the first Android phone ever sold commercially. And it's running CM6!
They've even ported over the Hero rom to it with HTC Sense.
Now the down side is our phone is CDMA which means we have several continents of potential developers who don't have our device, but we do have our non-identical twin brother the Sprint Hero which shares 90% of its hardware with the Eris. And the Hero has a pretty active development community. (One reason may be is that Sprint traditionally has lower credit requirements than Verizon and it is easier for people to get phones through them)
Anyway, we have Kaos,Tazz, Conap and a few others others who are churning out stuff left and right for our phones still. Nothing to worry about IMO.
We got Froyo which arrived despite Verizon and HTC saying it just wouldn't work. They also said Android 2 would never fit on a G1 and now they've got Froyo. Apps2SD, Cache2Cache and other great ideas will keep our main memory clear for more stuff. If Kaos continues development on his tool to boot roms from SD cards, we have virtually unlimited storage capacity for bigger and better things.
I am not mad at him leaving and I know i can try another rom, just seemed like his has been by far the fastest and most stable.
Not sure what happened behind the scenes, but maybe he will come back.
His v10.1 was top knotch and super fast.
Well.... It has happened again... I get an OTA and the ish talking starts bout me holding back the "community"... So again I'm going to release the file I have... This time will be a little different though. I stated VERY clearly in the radio thread what I was doing and the fact that this OTA WILL NOT FLASH nor will anyone know wtf to do with it.... No one listened and instead ran their necks so F it.... Once you realize that there are several hundred .p patch files that will need to be applied to individual files, in succession, through 5 builds, then figuring out what kind of patches they are to begin with, then figuring out you need a specific binary to apply them, one you cant get, your on the right track.... Good luck with that... I'm sorry about this but honestly I'm tired of working on a device I don't even use, for days and days, with pneumonia mind you, for people to talk ish and complain about what I am doing. So I'm gonna leave it in the hands of the "well wishers" and let them take care of this for you guys... To those that havent *****ed, I apologize, but I'm pretty fed up with the amount of ignorance around here... So anyways, heres your OTA... Have fun with it and I will stop back by with an "I told you so" every now and then.... CR
Froyo Espresso OTA
lol im glad i have an epic. i just wanted to see what you were talking about in your twitter feed
People are still saying you're holding back from the community? Yeah, they're definitely ignorant. :/ I wasn't exactly around when this stuff was going on before, but I was lurking and even then it was pretty dumb.
Sorry that it has to happen this way, CR! Thank you for the work you've contributed thus far and all the great gifts you come bearing when you stop by.(Like this latest radio).
Well thanks to everyone who whines and *****es... a true dev comes along to help and you find a way to make him leave haha.. thanks CR for the work and trying mate. Good thing I'm getting new G2 on Tuesday
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This is really sad... damn ungrateful people...
Thanks for everything CR
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Well, I managed to update to this using some secret sauce, but I have now permanently lost root and S-OFF. Exploid and Rage Against the Cage-based exploits DO NOT WORK on this version of the kernel (2.6.32.29) included in this OTA.
On the plus side it does have USB/Wifi tethering built-in, so my need for root has dramatically decreased.
Just stick with whatever you have now until a new exploit comes out for >= 2.6.32.29, but don't hold your breath since it's unlikely ANY time soon.
:/ it is sad....at least you gave us the radio! And actually tried to patch the files! Thanks for all the work....hope you come back!
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There is a quick and simple solution to this problem and I think that most will agre that it is for the better of the community.\
First call these people out by name, post their PM's if any publicly
Then have their accounts suspended for no less than 30 days.
How dare someone make a statement like that, We got what 1 maybe 2 developers left with this device? Are you flipping kidding me? You asses are sitting there complaining about how the development on this device is dead, yet when someone has something, and is working n something you jump the freaking gun with stupid ill thought out comments.
So now it up to you lil ^itches that think you know everything to develop for this device. You wanted what he had released so freaking bad. So lets see what ya got... Hell there is no reason why you should not be able to crank out a working ROM with what he released by the of the day today.... I mean hell if you can't then YOU held back development of this phone.
XDA needs to do something about this.
The whole 10 post rule is BS. It does nothing
I think it needs to become a pay to play forum
I know thats not how it SHOULD be, and that it
COULD hinder development. but I DOUBT it.
Personally.....
CR your work is awesome, I appreciate it very much. Thank you for what you have done,
to the ^itches.... Thanks now I gotta go buy a new damn phone, that developers want to work on. Hopefully you are broke ass kids and cant afford a new one and will stay here and die with this forum, and phone. After all you started this...
Wow CR this sux that people's ignorance has to stop us from getting froyo finally with flash possibilities. This sux...
Thanks Chief for all the hard work. I thought your last update was the best rom and didn't have any problems. I guess its time to upgrade.
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I am pretty sure I know who it was... If you read through the RADIO thread there are 2 or 3 that were practically begging for the files he had.
I wont call them out myself being that I DONT FOR SURE KNOW. but if you read through there you could possibly figure it out. I am not encouraging anything, but I am sure a few people around here know of a few ways that will have their ISP shut them down for a day or so....
atlmatt said:
There is a quick and simple solution to this problem and I think that most will agre that it is for the better of the community.\
First call these people out by name, post their PM's if any publicly
Then have their accounts suspended for no less than 30 days.
How dare someone make a statement like that, We got what 1 maybe 2 developers left with this device? Are you flipping kidding me? You asses are sitting there complaining about how the development on this device is dead, yet when someone has something, and is working n something you jump the freaking gun with stupid ill thought out comments.
So now it up to you lil ^itches that think you know everything to develop for this device. You wanted what he had released so freaking bad. So lets see what ya got... Hell there is no reason why you should not be able to crank out a working ROM with what he released by the of the day today.... I mean hell if you can't then YOU held back development of this phone.
XDA needs to do something about this.
The whole 10 post rule is BS. It does nothing
I think it needs to become a pay to play forum
I know thats not how it SHOULD be, and that it
COULD hinder development. but I DOUBT it.
Personally.....
CR your work is awesome, I appreciate it very much. Thank you for what you have done,
to the ^itches.... Thanks now I gotta go buy a new damn phone, that developers want to work on. Hopefully you are broke ass kids and cant afford a new one and will stay here and die with this forum, and phone. After all you started this...
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you took the words right out my mouth
Chief wasn't the only one being bugged about the files. I've got a crap load of PMs and tweets asking me for the ota. I'm doing my best to provide CR with the files he needs to get this working for you guys. Hell, I don't even have a slide. Did I have to contact Chief letting him in on the file? Nope. If you guys would have waited a day or 2, you probably would have had a working OTA. But no, you had to keep *****ing to me and CR.
Chief, if you still want the files, hit me up on G and ill grab them.
Krylon360™
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Most of the people who wanted to see this zip released are not at all interested in actually running this rom. In fact, the more interesting bits are the sdio and tiwlan files that we might be able to fix the still-borked wifi in CM7.
Chiefz: nobody intended to give you ****, but there is absolute truth in the saying that many hands make light work. The more people looking at this, the more likely it is that it can be put to good use. The folks in #mytouchslide will be putting lots of eyes on this to see what outstanding issues we might be able to fix.
Thank you for releasing this and I'm sorry if you felt people were hassling you.
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Chief wasn't the only one being bugged about the files. I've got a crap load of PMs and tweets asking me for the ota. I'm doing my best to provide CR with the files he needs to get this working for you guys. Hell, I don't even have a slide. Did I have to contact Chief letting him in on the file? Nope. If you guys would have waited a day or 2, you probably would have had a working OTA. But no, you had to keep *****ing to me and CR.
Chief, if you still want the files, hit me up on G and ill grab them.
Krylon360™
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Thanks for the great help mate and as to CR if you read this hopefully you can understand that there is more good apples than the bad ones mate. Thanks either way with the final choice you make!
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Chiefz, don't listen to those noobs. You do a great job here and we all appreciate you as a hard working person that always brings good stuff to the forum and as a very good friend no matter what you do.
Thanks for all
Damn whiny 12 year olds.. you can't escape their wrath!!
2.2.1 Rooted OTA..u will be missed.
i personally think this was a good move to shut the people up that dont know what they are doing (like myself, (-) the talking crap part). but now that you have made your point chiefz, you should really continue your work. you would have the praise of the community!
No this was not a good move. It has left so many of without any hope of ever making our phones just that much cooler, that much better...
I am pissed off to the point I am shopping for a new phone today
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that sucks, but i don't blame you. thanks for everything, mang.
first its my fault i uploaded the damn VIRGIN **** leak....
yet i am paying 8 bucks a month for **** reasons like this even if anyone says its not used for being stupid to root or whatever....
the rant starts with the sprint store. i go in the tech passes me over to the manager who says since i rooted my phone before he will not help me. so i call tech and they said he better look at it. i said no way am i going back to see that ahole again. so they tell me to go to a 3rd party repair store. mind you my phone was working only thing was that it had vm on the banner. the tech tries to fix my phone only to screw up the 3g. so he places an order for a phone. which was on the 8th.
i try to fix my phone until i get the new phone since its on back order. i screw up even more with no calls working. i call sprint and i swear two out of like four told me to root my phone. level two tech said this... haha
yesterday i call the store i want a phone damn it tells me not today sir call tomorrow or even maybe later in the week. WHAT! call sprint told me its going to be another week. i speak to whoever i can they told me the same about it looks like a major back order. this afternoon i call for a update and long and behold the tech says its out for delivery on the ups truck. few hours later the store calls says it will be in tomorrow... wait who is right here? call andriod tech he says 5 more days. huh i say send me to level two tech which he did. the new tech not only tells me its coming today but gave me a tracking number.
sprint get your **** together and have one open system. also let us live and root your own techs advice is to do it.
I get it, you ****ed up your own phone and it's Sprint's fault for not pampering you like an infant?
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I get it, you ****ed up your own phone and it's Sprint's fault for not pampering you like an infant?
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not at all. one they need to have a clear message across the board. do they or they do not fix rooted phones. i have seen leaked memos that tell them they should. leave that bit on the side. my rant is not the back order nor the techs. my problem is the systems they use. cs runs on a different system can not even see if there are orders for a phone. andriod tech sees an order can not get any more info. level one tech same and tells me its not shipped while level two tech said it was. level two tech can tell me when its being shipped.. how by get this... they chat with the warehouse. well wait why can it all not be connected. one system!
also when a level two tech says trying rooting your phone what should be said? nothing about warranty was said too.
Should've not mentioned root and said one day you woke up with VM and 3G was slower...
I mean, it's true. You don't have to tell them you rooted. And the day after flashing VM firmware, you technically did wake up with VM. The VM makes 3G slower so yeah..
yousefak said:
Should've not mentioned root and said one day you woke up with VM and 3G was slower...
I mean, it's true. You don't have to tell them you rooted. And the day after flashing VM firmware, you technically did wake up with VM. The VM makes 3G slower so yeah..
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It actually makes mine MUCH faster... Just saying...
yousefak said:
Should've not mentioned root and said one day you woke up with VM and 3G was slower...
I mean, it's true. You don't have to tell them you rooted. And the day after flashing VM firmware, you technically did wake up with VM. The VM makes 3G slower so yeah..
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well they replaced it anyways. just got the phone it has about 58 mins of talk time and was actived on 4/2/12 almost brand new lol.... now time to root and install vm again haha no. should i flash ics or not is the question. i am sure staying about from frameware for now.
fearbasel04 said:
they need to have a clear message across the board. do they or they do not fix rooted phones.
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Sprint's stance is this:
Do whatever you want to your phone. If [Sprint] sees that you bricked it [or any features therein] by:
*using unsigned anything,
*and you cannot restore its functionality by restoring its original firmware(s).
*or are unable to restore original firmware(s) due to lockout of writing to said bricked phone/feature,
[Sprint] will not see fit to service this device or its feature(s).
Since what you really want is attention... Congratulations u got it!!!! Don't forget to hit the thanks button too!!!!!
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well they replaced it anyways. just got the phone it has about 58 mins of talk time and was actived on 4/2/12 almost brand new lol.... now time to root and install vm again haha no. should i flash ics or not is the question. i am sure staying about from frameware for now.
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Flashing only the ROMs works fine.
Dont flash the firmware on the new 3D.
Mexhawk06 said:
Since what you really want is attention... Congratulations u got it!!!! Don't forget to hit the thanks button too!!!!!
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like you need the thanks.... congratulations u got it
are there hamburgers here?
1) Punctuation is our friend!
2) Sentences should always begin with capital letters!
3) Run on sentences are really hard to follow!
4)
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You broke your phone. Your grasp of the English language is probably the reason why. If you can't wrap your brain around flashing, get yourself an iDrone and leave Android to the literate.
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Forgive the people here man, they are cranky because of delayed official ics launch
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Yeah. I completely get you, although many people.here hate on you since, HTC is delaying ics, or whatever else. Well some of the people in sprint claim they can't fix your phone because your root, even if its something like, "Flash isn't working" , its an external problem, maybe the light there went off or its broken. Then you talk to another guy. And he tells you , 'Root your phone' NO DUH! Seems like rooting your phone is way cheaper and faster than talking to a dumb sprint tech that has no idea of what he's saying.
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vanisleguy1976 said:
1) Punctuation is our friend!
2) Sentences should always begin with capital letters!
3) Run on sentences are really hard to follow!
4)
Spoiler
You broke your phone. Your grasp of the English language is probably the reason why. If you can't wrap your brain around flashing, get yourself an iDrone and leave Android to the literate.
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Ok.. you are correct in terms of my writing. If I was in college again I would care.
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fearbasel04 said:
Ok.. you are correct in terms of my writing. If I was in college again I would care.
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Thank you I say that **** to people all the time. Not to mention its the internet lol.
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It's the internet not a writing essay , if you were to flame everyone on the internet for punctuation you'd be flaming at everyone. People use things like Lolz , wtf, hai, bai, likez, you know, different spelling and extra letters in the end of every word, we don't come to the internet to be Mr Perfect in grammar, I come here to get away from it without having to face Grammar Nazis.
If he were writing a formal letter punctuation that isn't correct looks horrible, but ITS just a post. Nothing much nothing more.
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Funny thing is I am a teacher. I need a break from it all. Then again I also have a degree in computers. I know what needs to be said and done. Also its not like my posts come from my desktop. It's different on a phone. Live and let live, and worrying on a forum means you need a life.
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fearbasel04 said:
It's different on a phone. Live and let live, and worrying on a forum means you need a life.
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That last one made me laugh. It's funny because its true. If its understandable, its ok.
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Jimlarck said:
That last one made me laugh. It's funny because its true. If its understandable, its ok.
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You know I been coming to site since the wm oops windows mobile days. It's become a place like MySpace was. When before it was post a problem and you will get a reply for help. Now everyone replies with nonsense or even changes the topic. If you disagree then like my mom said keep your mouth shut.
Look at what happened to MySpace. People got sick of the bull**** in the forums.
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