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Right now I'm using Behnaam's 1.6 rom. I like it a lot, but I'm kinda missing the camera functionality. Thats the reason I want to switch back to 1.5. The only problem is that I really hate the Sense UI. Is there a clean 1.5 rom without Sense and HTC customizations?
Instead of uninstalling the Touchflo - you could either use Home Switcher from the app store or do the following:
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1. Go into Settings > Applications > Manage Applications.
2. Scroll down until you find an application named "TouchFLO" or "Sense UI" and click on it.
3. Scroll down to where you can see "Launch by default" and click on "Clear defaults".
4. Then push the Home button (on your phone) and a dialog will pop up showing "Home" and "TouchFLO"/"Sense UI", check "Use by default for this action" and then click "Home". Now you got "Home" as default.
I know, but then i still have the ugly skinned apps and icons. I want a straight from google clean rom.
this has also been asked (and answered) several times. there is no clean rom so far, devs are working on it, but nobody succeded to build one. htc's modifications go deeper than just the ui.
But isnt it possible to use the 1.5 SDK rom and put in the Hero drivers from the Hero rom? Drivers cant be related to UI changes right?!
Maybe a stupid question, but why did you buy a hero if you hate sense?
There are several phones with about the same specs or even better.
Why?
Second to that, you call htc widgets ugly and stuff... Just don't use them?
Android widget's are on the phone as well and you are able to download a lot of
widgets from the market.
I don't really see the problem, use homeswitcher and don't use htc apps/widgets problem solved...
I'm not talking about widgets. I'm talking about mail, calendar, messages, dialer, the keyboard etc.
I bought an Hero because I could get it cheap and because of the digital compass.
Ik ben gewoon fan van de origenele UI (wit ipv zwart)...
Ozxobez said:
But isnt it possible to use the 1.5 SDK rom and put in the Hero drivers from the Hero rom? Drivers cant be related to UI changes right?!
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kendong2 said:
htc's modifications go deeper than just the ui.
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there are several threads about it, check the development section.
I am trying to find a really good software keyboard for my hd2. one that is much smoother and faster than the hd2 made one. anybody have any ideas?
I've tried many: cliquick, finger keyboard, swype, slideit, resco keyboard, spb keyboard - each one has advantages - concerning type speed or available languages, or size of buttons etc. But I finally stayed at the default HTC keyboard with reduced screen sensitivity (through BsB tweaks) and I've used to type quite fast. It just takes some time and training especially if you've used to a resistive screen device.
Ye, default HTC kbd is good enough
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metaltorizo said:
I am trying to find a really good software keyboard for my hd2. one that is much smoother and faster than the hd2 made one. anybody have any ideas?
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default keyboard is so terribly innacurate, but I have found perfect solution which works for me, I can type faster with less mistakes, that's all I need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742445
I am using first version "Edit Kb by boogiecornejo.cab" which is GTX theme, but there are already some updates, therefore introduction is a littlebit confused
pedroxxx said:
default keyboard is so terribly innacurate, but I have found perfect solution which works for me, I can type faster with less mistakes, that's all I need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742445
I am using first version "Edit Kb by boogiecornejo.cab" which is GTX theme, but there are already some updates, therefore introduction is a littlebit confused
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if the stock keyboard is inaccurate it might be your screen...
OP, I prefer swype. Force yourself to use it for a couple of days and you won't go back.
best is the default keyboard, but try the registry edits/cab ...21,91 and 108 given in leo registry tweaks.thread (sticky)
nrfitchett4 said:
if the stock keyboard is inaccurate it might be your screen...
OP, I prefer swype. Force yourself to use it for a couple of days and you won't go back.
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There is nothing special with my screen, because when I am using Android it is without problems, and the same is with keyboard replacement, because touch area for the keys is redefined.
The problem here is just simple design of the default keyboard and hypersensitivity, so something from area such as WM touch drivers and HTC keyboard. But that's another story
Hey guys,
how does Samsung Touchwiz feel in the daily usage, assuming you come from HTC Sense?
I currently own a HTC Hero, and I need a new phone. How is the Facebook integration, calendar and email client?
Cheers, Martin
Hi,
I'm used using sense on android and winmo on a HTC.
when I compare it to Touchwiz, the samsung version feels odd, unlogical.
Personally I don't care a lot about Touchwiz.
Back to your questions:
Email client: (Gmail) it's almost the same
Facebook: I don't know i don't use it.
Twitter is the same too.
Calendar: I didn't like the one on Sense and I don't like the one on Touchwiz. I'm using Smooth calendar (free app)
draexler said:
how does Samsung Touchwiz feel in the daily usage, assuming you come from HTC Sense?
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First you are just happy with your new girlfriend and don't even think bad of her if she does things you think is strange...
You accept a lot, and think you just need to adjust and that everything will work out in the end...
Don't misunderstand me now.... you still Love the looks on your girl, her beauty is stunning.... but do come to the conclusion that looks often isn't everything you need...
So.. when you recognize this sad fact you will quite fast think of solutions to reproduce your old girlfriends habits and ways of doing things you loved about her....
You would probably install a new launcher, Go SMS, Go Dialer, Go Contacts and other beautiful widgets....
And soon you realize.... Beauty and mind does exist in one package after all...
And you are in love yet again...
draexler said:
Hey guys,
how does Samsung Touchwiz feel in the daily usage, assuming you come from HTC Sense?
I currently own a HTC Hero, and I need a new phone. How is the Facebook integration, calendar and email client?
Cheers, Martin
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I've never cared for the Facebook for HTC add-on and Peep (Twitter add-on), so always used the official Facebook/Twitter app sync.. Touchwiz does have its SNS aggregation app which is similar to HTC for Facebook/Peep, but not using it either
Linking contacts is the same in the Touchwiz contacts app as it is in the HTC contacts app. Although Sense does auto-link contacts far more efficiently (always autolinks whatsapp contacts whereas I've had to do that manually in Touchwiz) and there are no notifications for suggested contact merges in Touchwiz.
The calendar is the same, doesn't look as nice but offers essentially the same functions
The email client is a bit better as it has multiple Exchange ActiveSync support with HTML rendering.. also allows split-view in landscape mode which is a nice touch.. although it is a bit of a battery hog.. have 3 accounts set up on push and it uses over 15% of my battery, used to use Seven on my HTC and would use under 5%.
Overall, I prefer Sense over Touchwiz
I used to own the HTC Desire. I like Touchwiz a lot. Personally, I think that sense looks a little tired now. Even their tablet looks like a bloated version of their existing phones. But then touchwiz is all new to me, and I love the SGS2, so maybe my judgment is clouded.
draexler said:
Hey guys,
how does Samsung Touchwiz feel in the daily usage, assuming you come from HTC Sense?
I currently own a HTC Hero, and I need a new phone. How is the Facebook integration, calendar and email client?
Cheers, Martin
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I miss sense, it has so many little touches touchwiz (and 3rd party launchers/widgets) miss.
Coming from Sense first from TP2 and then from Desire there was quite big change.
But I didn't actually like Sense that much and used to use Go Launcher.
I am still using Touchwiz but there are some issues which are really annoying.
First of all the home screen is the most left one. That is so stupid. Probably the biggest issues with touchwiz.
Calendar app I think is better than with Sense. I actually uninstalled smooth calendar after finding this.
Also strange thing is that with Sense I could look my facebook pictures from the gallery application. Currently I cannot do it or then I just dont know how to do it. But that is a big downside.
After all touchwiz is not so bad as people are complaining. I dont miss the extra eye candy from Sense 3.0 and there are some good things with this UI. I would give it 7+
draexler said:
Hey guys,
how does Samsung Touchwiz feel in the daily usage, assuming you come from HTC Sense?
I currently own a HTC Hero, and I need a new phone. How is the Facebook integration, calendar and email client?
Cheers, Martin
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I've come from an HTC Desire and for me, TouchWiz is a clear improvement over Sense in some ways, and needs a lot of work in others. It certainly feels faster, but that might just be down to the horsepower that the GSII has available. Also, you're not forced to have 7 home screens. I have 2 home screens with my essentials on them and nothing else. I guess I'm a minimalist
Facebook integration is decent, although the Contacts app isn't as good as Sense at auto-linking Facebook contacts to your existing contacts. Calendar is nice, although for some reason it can only pull in your events calendar from Facebook. As I recall, Sense was capable of pulling in events and birthdays. I don't use the built-in email app (I use the Gmail app instead).
Other niceties:
- Built-in MSN client
- Decent camera (far better than the Desire anyway)
Other niggles:
- The lock screen takes some getting used to. I ended up installing an alternative because I didn't like it.
- The apps list is more akin to how apps are ordered on the iPhone than on other Android devices: you have to manually order them rather than them being ordered alphabetically.
- The media scanner is unable to process the metadata in AAC/M4A files. They play just fine, but show up as "Unknown Artist" etc. in the music player.
All in all though, it's a brilliant phone. I was blown away by how fast it is coming from a Desire, so moving to it from a Hero will blow your socks off.
Don't care for it personally - feels clunky and outdated.
I went SPB first and now LauncherPro - much happier.
If I had been stuck with TouchWiz though it'd still have been an excellent phone...
I never cared for Sense on my HTC device when I used it, I flashed a stock CM7 based rom.
So the look was minimalistic.
The TouchWiz needs some work doing to it, for example (and I may have missed something here), the programs in "Applications" are added in the order installed. I prefer the A - Z scrolling icons (not the list you can get it TouchWiz).
LauncherPro for me any day, or GoLauncher maybe as a 2nd choice.
TouchWiz doesn't do it for me I'm afraid... The dialer is great, but I don't like the dock/app drawer at all.
It took me ages to get used to Launcher Pro after using sense, but now I cant use anything other than Launcher pro (with it set up the way I like).
CandyAndy said:
Coming from Sense first from TP2 and then from Desire there was quite big change.
But I didn't actually like Sense that much and used to use Go Launcher.
I am still using Touchwiz but there are some issues which are really annoying.
First of all the home screen is the most left one. That is so stupid. Probably the biggest issues with touchwiz.
Calendar app I think is better than with Sense. I actually uninstalled smooth calendar after finding this.
Also strange thing is that with Sense I could look my facebook pictures from the gallery application. Currently I cannot do it or then I just dont know how to do it. But that is a big downside.
After all touchwiz is not so bad as people are complaining. I dont miss the extra eye candy from Sense 3.0 and there are some good things with this UI. I would give it 7+
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You know a default.prop edit changes that to have the default screen wherever you want.
how do u do that pulser?
I went HTC Sense (On a Hero) to an iPhone 4 to SGS II.
Played on a DHD a lot whilst having an iPhone 4. I find Touchwiz 4.0 quite nice, very smooth and I prefer the browser to sense I have got used to the smoothness of the iPhone. Never liked the way the Sense browser scrolls and to be honest it's hardly changed since the Hero days, etc.
used a couple of htc devices with sense, the last one was a rooted desire with a combination of sense 2.1 and sense 3.0 and I must say that in terms of hardware samsung is ahead of any htc right now but touchwiz has nothing to do with the usability of htc sense
I don't like the calendar on SG2 (app and widget) and I need that, I don't like that SG2 social hub is not better integrated with contacts ... etc. I just love my new SG2 but I have to say it, HTC did a great job with sense
And one important thing - SG2 "smart" dialer is not so smart and some contacts I will only find if I make a search contacts, they will not appear if I type first few letters from the name .... and I hate that ... it was so easy on HTC to call someone when driving ....
I can't wait for a decent port of htc sense 3.0 on my SG2
until I will find it I have to remove touchwiz and buy spb shell 3d from the market
I came from DHD and Touch Pro 2, Tytn II with Sense.
Don't like the Touch Wiz/Samsung
-Keyboard (spezial characters on second page)
-E-Mail App (no multi Mail markers to delete at once)
-Music Player
-Facebook Integration
-Dialer
-Wheater
-no control over WLAN, GPS, 3G, Data Connection, Bluetooth, Thetering, Fly Mode and many more options etc. in one place
etc.
SGS II has a lot of power an could handle Sense easy, once it has been portet.
Sorry but TW is IMHO crap...
Would love to see a Sense Rom on SGS II
am i the only one that actually likes touchwiz??! I find it does everything really smoothly. Sense was overwhelming. It changed too many things! Once landscape is introduced for touchwiz il probably be using it by default.
Indeed, I love the TouchWiz interface and gladly choose it over sense. Since you can install a calendar widget on Samsung, but you can't get away from sense on a HTC. TouchWiz is really fast and don't change the Android experience in a bad way.
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I wasn't too fond of sense and ended up not using it in favor of adw although I occasionally went with GO and LP. Had them all on the phone. As already noted the default home screen can be moved in touchwiz, search for the thread and there are detailed instructions. Rooted users can also sort the app drawer alphabetically with an app called sort apps. It will come up in a market search for touch wiz. I am using touchwiz now but essentially with all the wiz removed. I dislike hubs as they are more bloat than benefit to me and have never used them. I love the little slider that lets you cross the home screens. Easier and quicker than pinching and done one handed instead of having to two hand to pinch or swipe all the way back and forth. I have been giving touchwiz a go for a while now. I also have LP and GO installed and I'm finding I like touchwiz once its been de wizzed. If it were customizable in being able to choose rows and columns and that sort of thing I would be happy with it.
TouchWiz has the option of getting everything in alphabetical order and in up/down list. You can move apps freely around the different pages in original mode if you wish too. I love it and the quick switches in the notification bar just makes it great.
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OK, so I've been using Android for a while with HTC Sense, what user interface differences am I likely to notice when I move to Touchwiz on a Galaxy S3? (I would have gone for the HTX One X - but no removable battery, no SD card?! C'mon!)
I also have a nice physical qwerty keyboard at the moment, so having to use a touch-only keyboard will be a wrench, how bad is it? (I can't really use the on-screen keyboard on my HTC Desire Z at all, I'm just hoping that the slightly larger screen will make a touch keyboard least bearable).
Andre
Touching "Weather" on home screen leads to "Weather app" only - no Clock, no Alarm...
Weather then needs three steps (and browser) to show ""Hourly". No animation in Weather app, also.
Ended up removing that widget completely and putting normal clock instead.
Dialer has no AI. Needs a lot of patience. Ended up adding "Direct Dial Widget" for some people I call a lot - can't use dialer at all, it's annoying.
I found no way of copying contacts to Phone all at once, like in Sense. Contact pictures are small and pixelated due to this (used to change Google to Phone contacts on Sense, and reapplying the pics so they stay in full res).
TouchWizz will link contacts properly but will miss their Skype pictures. Further (manual) linking is possible, but a bit more complicated then in Sense 4.
Adding widgets and apps in Sense 4 (I used before) is a lot more straight forward. This is a bit... well, one can get used to it, but it's different. "Hold and drag" instead of simply "Tap". Go figure.
If I remember anything else, I'll add it. Can't help with your keyboard issue, I use screen for it for a while.
So basically Sense is mostly better, but it's fixable with third-party apps. Kinda what I expected; I do like Sense, but HTC have dropped the ball a bit with the rest of the One-X vs. the Galaxy 3S.
The one thing I know I'll miss (stupid I know!) will be the animated weather graphics when you open the home page.
Andre
You can get all that from beautiful widgets and the free animation app at play store. go to getjar for the apk.
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I too moved from HTC (previously Desire, Desire HD, SensationXE) to S3.
Missed the most is the HTC signature home page, lots of custom mods and libary of widgets provided by Sense. But nothing can trump replacable battery and uSD card. Take me few hours to get use to Touchwiz and Samsung apps. Now a very happy user of S3.
andrewilley said:
So basically Sense is mostly better, but it's fixable with third-party apps. Kinda what I expected; I do like Sense, but HTC have dropped the ball a bit with the rest of the One-X vs. the Galaxy 3S.
The one thing I know I'll miss (stupid I know!) will be the animated weather graphics when you open the home page.
Andre
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What you won't miss is the lag with Sense.
As for the keyboard, you just have to go cold turkey. I could suggest trying other keyboards. One or two features I find missing on the keyboard are directional arrows, because it's hard to pin point going back to a word to correct it, and the mic icon for voice to text input... I had a keyboard on my Note that took care of those two and was a bit easier to type on.. Now I forget which one it was and miss it.. lol
Thanks. I use HD Widgets on my tablet, which allows installs onto multiple devices, so I'll try that first - or maybe try Beautiful Widgets for the animations.
Andre
Swype changed my opinion of touch screen keyboards forever. It's almost as fast as having a full sized qwerty keyboard once you know how to use it.
I like sense as well but I'm not buying a phone without a removable battery either. I'm also tired of the sub standard speakers HTC keep using. I'd at least like to hear my phone ring in my pocket.
Think most of the points of difference have been covered already. Touch wiz now also has features of its own lacking in sense. Example is smart stay and some of the other motion control options.
All in all, having used a sensation up until April and a desire hd before that, I'm finding touch wiz to be quite pleasant. It's not nearly as crap as the HTC fan boys like to make out on those forums.
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I bought SGSIII earlier today, and I already miss features of HTC Sense. Touchwiz dialer sucks. Is there anything I can download from Play with Snese look and feel?
Also Touchwiz doesn't have a space saving 4x1 clock/weather widget. I install one from Beatiful Widgets, but it is not as good as the HTC one.
I want to ask the other HTC refugees, what are your coping strategies?
I'm coming from the OG Evo, but I never liked Sense much to begin with. I used MIUI on my Evo and plan to do the same once a MIUI build is released for this phone. Right now, I'm not having too many problems coping, but I don't plan on keeping TW any longer than necessary. My biggest issue right now for every day use is the lack of a convenient brightness slider, but that should be fixed whenever the next OTA happens.
stopeject said:
I bought SGSIII earlier today, and I already miss features of HTC Sense. Touchwiz dialer sucks. Is there anything I can download from Play with Snese look and feel?
Also Touchwiz doesn't have a space saving 4x1 clock/weather widget. I install one from Beatiful Widgets, but it is not as good as the HTC one.
I want to ask the other HTC refugees, what are your coping strategies?
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For a 4x1 widget, try HD Widgets.
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I never liked HTC Sense, I can never get used to it. I used either MIUI or CM rom. Also came from og htc evo as well. Touchwiz is a much better experience than HTC Sense imo... but I rather use AOSP.
HTC dialer was so good I didn't even program speed dials. Just typing 2-3 numbers or letters of a name would instantly bring the right contact. And they had Facebook picture integration (at least in GB ROMs). I also miss the short haptic buzz when a call was connected.
stopeject said:
I bought SGSIII earlier today, and I already miss features of HTC Sense. Touchwiz dialer sucks. Is there anything I can download from Play with Snese look and feel?
Also Touchwiz doesn't have a space saving 4x1 clock/weather widget. I install one from Beatiful Widgets, but it is not as good as the HTC one.
I want to ask the other HTC refugees, what are your coping strategies?
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I use go launcher ex with all the go widgets all with sense theme. As far as dialer I use go contacts with dark theme. Not exactly sense look but I find it more useful as you can swipe to go from dialer to contacts and to favorites.
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I have been using go launcher as well for one sole reason; the contacts widget. I like having a widget for direct calls. I hate how when you go to contacts or logs, to press on a name and it takes you to another menu which you have to choose either call or text. Sure you can slide to direct call but I just want to press and it calls immediately. Something so simple that I wish was an option in settings.
Guys, thanks for advise, Go launcher is way better than the stock one.
jaytxvo said:
I have been using go launcher as well for one sole reason; the contacts widget. I like having a widget for direct calls. I hate how when you go to contacts or logs, to press on a name and it takes you to another menu which you have to choose either call or text. Sure you can slide to direct call but I just want to press and it calls immediately. Something so simple that I wish was an option in settings.
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I too was was a Die-hard HTC Sense fan. However, TW 5 have improved so much I do not miss my HTC Amaze 4G. Whenever a contact is on your screen like SMS, Call log,etc, just put the phone to your ear and it will automatically dial the number for that contact.
stopeject said:
Guys, thanks for advise, Go launcher is way better than the stock one.
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But at least the stock laucher doesn't send your personal data to China
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stopeject said:
I bought SGSIII earlier today, and I already miss features of HTC Sense. Touchwiz dialer sucks. Is there anything I can download from Play with Snese look and feel?
Also Touchwiz doesn't have a space saving 4x1 clock/weather widget. I install one from Beatiful Widgets, but it is not as good as the HTC one.
I want to ask the other HTC refugees, what are your coping strategies?
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Anything new takes a little time to get used to. I think, if.you stick with it, you'll find TW to give you a more simplified, "closer to stock ICS" experience. Sure, its not stock ICS and Samsung likes to add a lot of color, but IMHO Sense uses too many useless transitions and extra tabs and extra steps...run on sentence but you get the point. There are plenty of widget alternatives, I personally like Fancy Widgets. For alternative launchers, Nova is nice.
stopeject said:
I bought SGSIII earlier today, and I already miss features of HTC Sense. Touchwiz dialer sucks. Is there anything I can download from Play with Snese look and feel?
Also Touchwiz doesn't have a space saving 4x1 clock/weather widget. I install one from Beatiful Widgets, but it is not as good as the HTC one.
I want to ask the other HTC refugees, what are your coping strategies?
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I found a Sense 4 clock widget lookalike, no flip animation though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1576980
Have you tried go contacts? That comes with a dialer that works just like the sense one. Btw, touxhwiz dialer should show your fb contact pics. Not sure why yours isn't. You need to sync with the app, not the built in fb sync.
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I'm sure someone has already tried it, but what about titanium backups of HTC Sense apps, would those install on this phone? Dialer, etc.
I too miss Sense... I miss it already even though i forced my self to a vanila rom on my desire for a month before i got my gs3
Got 3 years to get over it! LOL
I am also a convert to TW. I initially missed the Sense but after I learned the shortcuts built into TW dialer, I prefer it. Make sure you read the tips that pop up and not just close them without reading. The swipe to call or text is a pretty cool feature I think.
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I'm sure someone has already tried it, but what about titanium backups of HTC Sense apps, would those install on this phone? Dialer, etc.
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Nope is more into the system then use copy and paste
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Sense gives me headache. Too old its colors are stressful. Touchwiz has vivid colors and not jist black and white
Hahah I thought I was the only one who preferred Sense.
I use GoLauncher for all my Launching needs on both this S3 and my original Evo.
But Sense's Contact app just blows this and every 3rd party away. I loved the auto-merge features, the integrated facebook/twitter/picassa/messaging by contact.. and it just looked nice.
The closest I've found for the contacts is an app called "ConTapps" which does the same integration with Facebook/Twitter/LinkedIn, etc.. (In fact I think it does a better job than sense)... however it does not have a nice way to navigate via groups, all your contacts are one big list, and duplicates must be manually 'merged' (Dups due to facebook,twitter,etc.. my google contacts are VERY clean online in the cloud).
As for a Dialer... Right now I'm using "aTakePhone". I've used it since my old Palm Centro, then my Evo, and now my S3.. It doesn't appear that there's been much updates to handle the S3's screen resolution (small gaps on the edges of the dialer) but feature wise it has everything you'd want in a dialer, including a nice scrolling 'quick bar' on the dialpad menu. You can even customize the searching parameters so it won't search till you've placed X # of letters, searching within company names, etc...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EwMiwiY29tLnNoc2guYW5kcm9pZC5hdGFrZXBob25lIl0.
I really miss the HTC contacts app... *cry*.