hello guys ,
sry for this question....wat is HTC HD2 TMous.....?????
Im having problems with my mobile for quite a while now and im looking for a new ROM and there are those with TMous......compatibility problems....
What does it means?
all the world has the 'regular' hd2, which has 448meg ram and 512 meg rom.
T Mobile USA (tmous) has 576 meg ram and 1024 meg rom.
Regular hd2 can use any radio, any rom, tmous hd2 can ONLY use radios with x.xx.50.xx in the version number. (But not 2.04.50.x and 2.05.50.x, they will also destroy tmous phones)
Any radio with x.xx.51.xx in the version will destroy the tmous.
Any roms not that do not say tmous compatible will not boot.
thanks a lot
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Probably a stupid question, but since HTC show no inclination to release the latest ROMs like 2.13 for European phones, does the TMOUS 2.13 ROM work perfectly on European HD2s? Is it the best stock ROM option or are we safer sticking to the WWE 1.66 ROM?
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tmous roms work fine on regular leo. 2.13 isn't the latest, there's a 2.14 somewhere, and even a 3.something, i think, though i'm not sure whether that can be flashed as is or whether It's only for use in cooked roms, so be sure and read around.,
On my T8585 it doesn't work. I had tried many ROMs(TMOUS based and TMOUS stock) and with every single one phone is stuck(completely frozen - only battery removing or soft reset helps) on Launching HTC Sense. All that with 2.08 or 1.66 HSPL and 2.xx.50 radios. If I flash 2.xx.51 radio, phone is able to boot and start Sense but after receiving or making a call the phone is frozen again. But, with 2.xx.51 I can disable HTC Sense. Then I flash back .50 radio. Phone can then work with that radio without Sense but is very unstable and can be frozen at any time. Tried the same scenario with and withouth SD card - no difference.
Tried also latest test ROMs, 3.01 and 3.02 WWE, and 3.04 all watermarked. With any HSPL(1.66,1.43 or 2.08) in hardware information is stated 576MB of RAM, but on SD Card&Phone Storage Settings there is only about 200MB Total program(it should be 448MB). After flashing full test ROM(with new SPL 3.02 - flashed with gold card) memory settings are usual for any standard LEO regardless or flashed radio.
you, my friend, have a fault.
every day dozens(hundreds?) of people flash tmous based roms to regular hd2s with no issues. id start with a flash back to stock, maybe task29 too, if i were you.
i've had a regular leo since january and in all that time it has spent a total of maybe 5 days NOT running a tmous based rom with a tmous radio.
Hello Samsamuel
Tried that also but it doesn't help at all.
Stock ROMs works without a hitch but 576mb enabled ones is a bitter kind of fruit for my Leo. Also Android works but I have to add mem=352M in the set cmdline for full RAM kernel. I think something is wrong with my phones RAM memory. I've bout the phone on 4th of dec last year with 2years contract from VIP in Serbia. It was factory unlocked from the start. I don't have any information how other phones from VIP behave regarding RAM.
At the moment I am using Artemis 27 ROM with 1.66 HSPL and 2.12.50 radio and it's working fine - no major drawbacks.
What's the numbers on boot loader screen for ptouch and pled on your phone( on mine is 0x05 and 0x20)?
miksi said:
Hello Samsamuel
Tried that also but it doesn't help at all.
Stock ROMs works without a hitch but 576mb enabled ones is a bitter kind of fruit for my Leo. Also Android works but I have to add mem=352M in the set cmdline for full RAM kernel. I think something is wrong with my phones RAM memory. I've bout the phone on 4th of dec last year with 2years contract from VIP in Serbia. It was factory unlocked from the start. I don't have any information how other phones from VIP behave regarding RAM.
At the moment I am using Artemis 27 ROM with 1.66 HSPL and 2.12.50 radio and it's working fine - no major drawbacks.
What's the numbers on boot loader screen for ptouch and pled on your phone( on mine is 0x05 and 0x20)?
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ahh well in that case it sounds like you may have a pre production model, and sorry but i dont want to advise you any more, since i have no knowledge of them, except that they dont seem to have the same ammount of RAM as the regular leo.
There is a user called xmoo who is very interested and knowledgable about test models, maybe he can tell you more (and indeed help you tell whether it IS a pre prod or not)
Ja sam imao slične probleme kada sam koristio "stari" HSPL2, pa sam stavio HSPL3 i sve radi savršeno. Moj HD2 je kupljen u HR VIPu isto je došao otključan.
Koristim KWBR 3.12 i Radio: 2.12.50.02_2. Ako si isprobao sve, onda nema druge nego prodaš svoj uređaj i nabaviš drugi... Može bit da je VIP poslao na srbsko tržište neke "čudne" verzije uređaja.
Hello,
Could somebody clarify my mind about differences between rom for European or T-Mobile HD2.
I will receive my HD2 T-Mobile within few days. How can I be sure not to brick it from start ?
I red somewhere that I have to use HSPL3 before flashing any ROM.
If I start with that does my phone protected from bad ROM, can I try every ROM I see or is there something minimum release or something else to take care before selecting ROM ?
If you think I'm out of context, please let me know or reply me using MP.
Ocelot
non tmous based cooked roms in themselves won't brick your device, but they won't work either, however non tmous stock roms contain radios that WILL permanently brick your device.you are currently posting in the regular hd2 section, go back to the site root and find the tmous specific hd2 section, and only get your roms from there.
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non tmous based cooked roms in themselves won't brick your device, but they won't work either, however non tmous stock roms contain radios that WILL permanently brick your device.you are currently posting in the regular hd2 section, go back to the site root and find the tmous specific hd2 section, and only get your roms from there.
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Thank you for answer.
I know there is a specific section for T-Mobile HD2, but as you have probably seen, I'm Belgian and I'm looking for French ROM. Nobody report French version in the appropriate section because TMOUS is not sold in Europe.
May I ask you how I can know if a ROM includes radios or not ? Is there specific [] to tell me Yes or Not ?
Thanks.
P.S. This is my last message in that item so left place for Standard EU HD2 owner.
cooked roms will always say in the first few posts whether they are tmous compatible. i've not seen any cooked rom that includes a radio, but so long as you read the first posts, all the info will bethere. if in doubt, simply don't flash it, there are plenty to choose from.
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Thank you for answer.
I know there is a specific section for T-Mobile HD2, but as you have probably seen, I'm Belgian and I'm looking for French ROM. Nobody report French version in the appropriate section because TMOUS is not sold in Europe.
May I ask you how I can know if a ROM includes radios or not ? Is there specific [] to tell me Yes or Not ?
Thanks.
P.S. This is my last message in that item so left place for Standard EU HD2 owner.
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It doesn't matter if your phone is a T-Mobile one or not. What does matter is if your phone is a USA T-Mobile. The specification: European model hass a 512MB ROM and 448MB RAM, the USA version has a 1GB ROM and 576MB RAM. Go to the 'Settings' tab, select 'About phone', select 'Hardware information'. There you will see the RAM and ROM information.
If you are flashing an HTC or mobile operators ROM then HSPL is not required. If you want to flash a custom ROM, then HSPL is required. No doubt, in the future you will at least want to try out a custom ROM, therefore it does little harm to flash HSPL to give you more flexability.
Hi, well basically I am a total newbie to the HD2. I don't know very much about it. What I want to do is install android on my device. However, in order to do this i want to turn my ram space from 448mb to 512mb so the HD2 runs smother. I know this has something to do with changing the radio. Please can someone tell me how to check which radio I have on my device, and which one I have to install to get the full 512mb ram? Instructions?
I really do not want to change the default rom on the device because I want to leave it the way it is. All I want to do is change the ram from 448mb to 512mb without tempering with windows mobile? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
its a two part process, it needs a radio with ..50.. in the version, 2.06.50.x or higher, but it also needs a rom based on the tmous core, so either a cooked rom that is based on 2.x tmous rom, or a tmous stock rom.
(oh and it becomes 576 meg ram, not 512)
Hey Guys,
I initally bought my HD2 last December which has 448mb of RAM which looking at the packaging was made in Tiwan (REV:A). After smashing last month my insurance company decided they was going to send me a new HD2 now it came with 1.66 installed but never decided to look at ram size but after upgrading to latest stock rom 3.14 it has 576mb Ram is this because i have HSPL2 on the device or have HTC decided to enable the "locked" ram?? I also noticed the stock rom came with Radio 2.15 which i was supprised about seen as most people won't need to **** around to get android running. This is REV:B made in CHINA also seems to have a different type of screen in it. Is this already know what i've mentioned or of any interest to anyone.
If you install the latest stock ROM 3.14 over HSPL you will see that your device indicate to have 576MB of RAM.
But at the same way you will only have +/- 50MB of free program memory!
So best is to remove HSPL and reinstall Stock ROM 3.14 without HSPL.
Hello,
Yesterday I came across an interesting ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791303
Unfortunately, it's prepared for American HD2s. I asked the cooker if he could make a version for European HD2 but he says he hopes his rom works on both types of devices. I like this rom very much but I wouldn't like to brick my LEO. Can I flash it?
at your own risk ! I think it's not a good idea
tmous roms should work perfectly well on regular hd2. (how do you think the 576 ram gets unlocked on a regular hd2? tmous rom and radio) its only tmous users that cant use regular roms.
It's strange because european hd2 haven't 1024 of rom !
so? the tmous roms are only around teh same size (200 or so meg) as a regular rom, you dont flash the extra empty space, whatever is left just gets left as empty storage space.
Guys, thanks for your answers. I flashed the TMOUS ROM to EU HD2 with success. Everything works!
Friends,
i am about to buy a TMOUS HD2 / LEO 1024 (unlocked) for use in Asia.
I have intermediate level knowledge about rom flashing as I do it quite often with my present htc blackstone.
My questions about TMOUS HD2 are :
1) With HSPL3 / HSPL4, can I flash any custom WM6.5 ROM available here ?
Are the WM6.5 ROm's linked to a particular version of HSPL available at the time of their release ? I think HSPL / HSPL2 do not support TMOUS HD2
2) With HSPL3 / HSPL4, can I flash any custom RADIO ROM available here ?
Since I intend to use this outside of US, i am ok if the UMTS1700 band doesnt work. UMTS2100 will serve my purpose
Thanks for looking, await your feedback.
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Friends,
i am about to buy a TMOUS HD2 / LEO 1024 (unlocked) for use in Asia.
I have intermediate level knowledge about rom flashing as I do it quite often with my present htc blackstone.
My questions about TMOUS HD2 are :
1) With HSPL3 / HSPL4, can I flash any custom WM6.5 ROM available here ?
Are the WM6.5 ROm's linked to a particular version of HSPL available at the time of their release ? I think HSPL / HSPL2 do not support TMOUS HD2
2) With HSPL3 / HSPL4, can I flash any custom RADIO ROM available here ?
Since I intend to use this outside of US, i am ok if the UMTS1700 band doesnt work. UMTS2100 will serve my purpose
Thanks for looking, await your feedback.
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1) No, most of them but not all. You have to read the first post of each thread whether the ROM can be used with TMoUS HD2.
The have to be installed with HSPL 3 / HSPL4
2) using the TMoUS you can only use thos Radio ROMs with xx.xx.50.xx but NOT xx.xx.51.xx. All of them can be installed with HSPL 3 and HSPL4
tusharch said:
Friends,
i am about to buy a TMOUS HD2 / LEO 1024 (unlocked) for use in Asia.
I have intermediate level knowledge about rom flashing as I do it quite often with my present htc blackstone.
My questions about TMOUS HD2 are :
1) With HSPL3 / HSPL4, can I flash any custom WM6.5 ROM available here ?
Are the WM6.5 ROm's linked to a particular version of HSPL available at the time of their release ? I think HSPL / HSPL2 do not support TMOUS HD2
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Yes you can pretty much flash any custom Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM for the HD2 here on XDA. Just make sure it does not have a x.xx.51.xx radio with the ROM which just about all customers Rome do not have radios included with them. Also it has to be a ROM based of a TMOUS Tom or it will not work correctly. To more directly answer your question they are linked to the SOL some what. The older EU ROMs are linked to the SOL versions that came with them as the were designed to work on the EU HD2s with 448MB of RAM. The SPLs hat come with the newer TMOUS ROMs are designed to work with the 576MB of RAM of the TMOUS HD2.
2) With HSPL3 / HSPL4, can I flash any custom RADIO ROM available here ?
Since I intend to use this outside of US, i am ok if the UMTS1700 band doesnt work. UMTS2100 will serve my purpose
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No you can not flash all radios to the TMOUS HD2. You can not clash a 2.04.50. xx, 2.05.50.xx, or any x.xx.51.xx radio version as they will brick and TMOUS HD2.
Thanks for looking, await your feedback.
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You are welcome.
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T-Macgnolia said:
The SPLs hat come with the newer TMOUS ROMs are designed to work with the 576MB of RAM of the TMOUS HD2.
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Thanks for yr feedback. Well, this is slightly off topic, but till now my understanding was that all HD2's do come with 576 MB RAM.
With stock ROM, the ram shows up as 320 MB (128 reserved for graphix) & With proper version of radio rom it shud show 448 MB (128 for graphix again) summing to 576 MB. Am i missing something ?
thanks matthes n macgnolia for yr feedback.
tusharch said:
Thanks for yr feedback. Well, this is slightly off topic, but till now my understanding was that all HD2's do come with 576 MB RAM.
With stock ROM, the ram shows up as 320 MB (128 reserved for graphix) & With proper version of radio rom it shud show 448 MB (128 for graphix again) summing to 576 MB. Am i missing something ?
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No you are not missing anything. really. With the EU HD2s you have to have a TMOUS ROM and TMOUS radio to unlock the extra 128MB of RAM. The EU HD2s come factory showing only 448MB of RAM. The TMOUS HD2s come factory with the 576MB of RAM.
T-Macgnolia said:
No you are not missing anything. really. With the EU HD2s you have to have a TMOUS ROM and TMOUS radio to unlock the extra 128MB of RAM. The EU HD2s come factory showing only 448MB of RAM. The TMOUS HD2s come factory with the 576MB of RAM.
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so that means :
If i have a APAC / EU HD2 I can flash all custom rom's including TMOUS rom's / radio
* but *
If i have a TMOUS HD2, then i need to verify before flashing if the rom is meant for leo 1024 else i risk bricking my phone.
tusharch said:
so that means :
If i have a APAC / EU HD2 I can flash all custom rom's including TMOUS rom's / radio
* but *
If i have a TMOUS HD2, then i need to verify before flashing if the rom is meant for leo 1024 else i risk bricking my phone.
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Yes make sure any ROM you are going to flash is ok for the TMOUS. The wrong ROM will not hard brick a TMOUS it will nust not run worth a crap on a TMOUS, but the wrong radio will hard brick a TMOUS, so pretty much if you can not fimd something thar says the ROM is ok for a TMOUS do not flash it, just to be safe.