[Q] Criteria for good voice quality in Europe (Finland) - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi Chaps
I'm absolutely sure the answer has already written somewhere here. I just used couple of hours to find it without success....
What are the principals I need to understand when I want to flash latest cooked ROM with the good voice quality without any noise or stuttering?
I live in Europe (Finland). Do I need to flash only ROMs which are based on 1.66 ROMs or is it purely a radio issue? Can I flash ROMS which are besed on 1.72, 1.80 or 2.xx?
Thanks for your information already?
.Illodin

Hey, what you should look for is a good radio ROM for your area. Sorry I can not say which is best in Finland.
Most people who upload the cooked ROM's, recommends the SPL version you should use and which radio version you should use.
Good luck!

all the radios will work on your phone. What is great for one person may be rubbish for the next person, so you just have to try them until you find one that works for you.
If you flash a custom rom that unlocks the extra ram, then you need to use only radios with ..50.. in the version number.
For me, (UK) my two best radios are 2.07.51.x and 2.10.50.x

I can reccomend the following.
For me (living in Vantaa) i use radio 2.12.50, most of the .50 range work fine...
Try to avoid the .51 radios, I have heard nothing but trouble on those for our devices.
I have been using Energyz romz, I can recommend those, 23xxx build or the 21xxx, or the newer 24xxx buils work perfectly.
Choose your flavour and off you go..
Have a dig around you will find enuff info for your reading pleasure...
Android Builds differ from build to build, for Finland I can say that the 2.11.50.20 and the 2.12.50.02 radios are fine, good quality for listening volume etc...I have had good results with Latest Darkstone (Froyostone) build.
But you will need to apply some tweaks to get the most out of the battery.
Hope this helps..
Matt
Phone: HTC HD2 | Rom: Energy 24631 Diniks | Radio: 2.12.50.02.2 | SPL: 2.08.HSPL

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xda: Which ROM to use?

Hi there,
A close friend has recently upgraded to a new phone, and passed me her xda. It's currently got the following:
ROM Version: 3.12.07 ENG
ROM date: 08/13/02
Radio version: 4.06
Protocol version 32S54
Model No.: PW10A1
I've just downloaded the lastest ROMS from myxda.com (3.20.06 ENG, 07/30/03, Radio: 4.21, Protocol: 32S54), and am just about to flash my unit.
I don't have an SD card, should I try to get one before I do? (There is no data in the xda yet, I just got it a week ago). What'd be a 'good capacity' to get?
Besides the 'official' rom above, which would be the best rom to install onto the xda? I'm very keen on having IIWPO, but am a little daunted by all the options available out there. (And if applicable, please advise on the 'best' PPC2002 and PPC2003 versions).
Should i be looking at 'alternative' radio stacks, or is 4.21 good? Would be nice to have the option to switch between GSM900/1800/1900, but it's not very necessarry. (I'm gussing this is controlled by the radiostack, and not the ROM?). My current region uses GSM900/1800. I do occassionally travel to the US
Advice please? Thank you!
Your phone is capable only of 900/1800 so will not work in the usa on 1900 band. I would suggest leaving your radio stack alone if it works ok as 4.21 seemed to break more than it fixed. The sd card method of upgrading is a much better way of doing things in my opinion. You can use the bootloader to backup your existing windows ce then you can flash a new rom from the kitchen and if not happy you can restore your system, this isnt the case with radio stacks so be very careful about radio upgrades. xdatools gives you a heap of options for backing up, reading, writing, storing etc of rom images. The original idea for rom flashing by programmers was partially to do with the fact that there is lots of unused/wasted space in the rom area, the developers decided to write lots of useful programs to the unused space which makes the xda a super pda/phone instead of a mediocre pda/phone.
Thanks for your reply; however, I was quite excited about the modem capability, and have since installed the 4.21 radio stack. Am not sure what the issues are, but I probably won't notice, having no prior experience with the unit.
Been playing with it for most of today, and must say it's very interesting. There is a whole slew of sofware most kitchens carry, that I have no idea where to even begin!
Would it be correct to say if I cooked a rom with only 'theft protection' checked, and everything else turned off, it would be the same as the 'original' rom that was released? Would like to learn more about the xda before venturing into the powertoys
The question I have however is: How do I choose which BaseROM to use?
In Lumpistefans ROMkitchen, I see:
WM2003 -
4.01.16 ENG
4.01.19 GER (default)
A.30.09 ENG
Whats the difference between each of the above? Does O2, or O2asia have a WM2003 release yet? It would appear some of these ROMs, once installed, cant be downgraded without an SD card - which are these? Or at least, that is the impression I get when browsing these forums. Can I replace them with the same version cooked rom? (just so that i won't get caught in a bind experimenting with the theft protection)
PPC2002 -
3.17.03 ENG O2-Euro (default)
3.19.01 GER O2
I currently have 3.20.06 ENG from 02asia,which seems to be a newer version than in the kitchen. Should i try to extract mine, and send it to the kitchen (that is if they take uploads/contributions)?
If I wanted to build my own kitchen, where do I start? I do already have access to a linux box that runs a webserver and supports php. Been searching all over but cannnot seem to figure where to download the kitchen scripts (a direct URL please?). Am actually interested in creating my own custom boot screen (THIS PDA IS MINE! - with a picture of me :lol
Other misc questions:
If I wanted to 'zero' the total in/outgoing calls? Do I need the serial cable with xda manipulator? Could someone point me to a circuit dragram where i can wire my own serial cable if that is the case, or is there some other way to do it now? Can I still do this having upgraded my radiostack to 4.21? or did i just lose the chance to do so?
Is the headphone connector similar to any other mobile phones? (eg: can I use a nokia, or motorola handsfree?) or is it propietary?
xdagirl said:
The question I have however is: How do I choose which BaseROM to use?
In Lumpistefans ROMkitchen, I see:
WM2003 -
4.01.16 ENG
4.01.19 GER (default)
A.30.09 ENG
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4.01.16 is the offical WM2003 release from T-mobile. It's the same as the 4.01.00 Beta. As some mates here reported some issues in this ROM, I 'm still using the 4.01.00 with no problems at all.
The 4.01.19 is obviously for the German devices. The 30.09 is a very good stable ROM from AT&T except that it has a very silly sound issue that kept many from using it
xdagirl said:
If I wanted to build my own kitchen, where do I start? I do already have access to a linux box that runs a webserver and supports php. Been searching all over but cannnot seem to figure where to download the kitchen scripts (a direct URL please?). Am actually interested in creating my own custom boot screen (THIS PDA IS MINE! - with a picture of me )
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You may PM Stephan to get his advice, but if it's only for a customized boot image, I believe there is a special tool for that can be used with the .nbf file before flashing.
xdagirl said:
If I wanted to 'zero' the total in/outgoing calls? Do I need the serial cable with xda manipulator? Could someone point me to a circuit dragram where i can wire my own serial cable if that is the case, or is there some other way to do it now? Can I still do this having upgraded my radiostack to 4.21? or did i just lose the chance to do so?
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I think this thread is good
xdagirl said:
Is the headphone connector similar to any other mobile phones? (eg: can I use a nokia, or motorola handsfree?) or is it propietary?
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It's propietary, but you can get an adaptor to allow you using any standard Nokia headset ... check Expansys
Thanks Biso, hadn't realised there were 2 seperate timers, and I was originally looking at settings-device information, and could't find the 'reset' button.
But now, I'm back with a little situation...
Spent some time reading the board, and learnt about the differences between the PW10A1 (900/1800), and the PW10B1 (900/1900). The little I did figure out is not to muck with the 'other' radio stack, and stick with 4.21 (my unit is from asia...)
However, I didn't quite realise the ROMS were different too. So, right now, my PW10A1 has a 'b' WM2003 firmware in it. No big problem, except when I wander into settings-phone-band, I'm forced to choose either 900 or 1900 where I then I lose network coverage.
I did try the bandswitch tool but that didn't work - I basically have to reset into the bootloader and select 900/1800 there. :x
The only place I can find to cook ROMs right now is Lumpistefans ROMkitchen, and the little I've learnt so far is
4.01.16 ENG - PW10B1
A.30.09 ENG - PW10B1 (I prefer this over 4.0.16 ENG)
Yes, there is a whole slew of threads on how to get Bs back to A, and As back to B. I'll go do that as soon as I figure out which are the A roms.
So, the newbie question I have is : How do I know which roms are PW10A1 and which roms are PW10B1?
Also, are there any other (public) kitchens out there? I can't get to the one on yorch.net.
Finally, when I do ever get down to setting up my own private kitchen, would it be possible to directly modify the base ROM, and change B roms to A? (ie: A.30.09 ENG becomes a PW101A1 rom, and settings-phone-band would show 900/1800 instead? or at least hide that menu item?)
There is no connection between the ROM version and the device type .. you can use any ROM with A or B device ... However, with A devices, you should never touch the band selector found in 4.01.xx ROMs as it was released by T-mobile for US regions (900/1900) ... but it works perfectly for 900/1800 as long as you have the proper RSU.
In general, always refer to the rear sticker to get the device type and forget what's written in the device info ... of course if the mother board is still the original.
A30.09 should be a very good and stable ROM except its sound bug, that's why I consider 4.01.00 is the 2nd best for now.
These are very good kitchens:
http://xda.weblink.net/
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/
Finally, when I do ever get down to setting up my own private kitchen, would it be possible to directly modify the base ROM, and change B roms to A? (ie: A.30.09 ENG becomes a PW101A1 rom, and settings-phone-band would show 900/1800 instead? or at least hide that menu item?)
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A30.09 doesn't have a band selector as it has auto band switching interface with the RSU, and with your own kitchen I dont' think you will be able to modify such basic feature like the band selector ... you can barely add some addtional s/w to the ROM space ... which doesn't justify building your kitchen for just changing the device type displayed.
Good luck ...

Is it possible to change or downgrade only the radio ver.?

Hi there,
after upgrading to WM6 (twice) i feel that the radio version (1.45.00.00) is less reliable than the one i had with WM5 (1.38.001),
about 10% of the calls i get, the phone doesn't ring at all and about 30% of the calls the phone only rings once and then stops,
overall reception in 3G is worse than it used to be.
is there a way to cook WM6 with the WM5 radio?
thanks
I THINK if you flash your device with Mobile 2005 you'll ger your radio ROM back, not sure.. Just try and post the results..
thank you for your post
yes indeed i will,
but then i will get WM5 back again, right?
what i really wanted was WM6 with WM5's radio.
i upgraded to the new WM6 with radio 1.45.00.10 so far so good, i will have to wait before getting any conclusions
well i think that both radio versions are almost the same, so i am asking again if it is possible to change only the radio version or to combine an old radio version with WM6 before flashing the whole rom,
thanks for your reply
aseptic said:
well i think that both radio versions are almost the same, so i am asking again if it is possible to change only the radio version or to combine an old radio version with WM6 before flashing the whole rom,
thanks for your reply
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I have only seen the 1.47.51 radio posted seperately. It seems to work pretty well for me.
Later...................
P.S. It does require a hard reset to install it tho.........Later
When I upgraded to WM6 the radio wasn't working any more: I was unable to receive incoming calls, the device switch directly to messaging, and the radio was rebooting after each call.
For me, in France, if the ROM radio of the Athena is higher than 1.38 the phone app is turning mad... So I had to go back to WM5 WWE then, flashing to the WM6 rom posted on the forum.
I've tried few days ago with the new rom from DOPOD, everything is working quite well, exept... the phone app which do no whant to receive calls any more.
I've a german AMEO with the HARD SPL but it does the same thing with a "french" HTC X7500.
Is it a provider incompatibility?
That's why i'm intersted of someone has the 1.38 radio ONLY
thanks!
Well me too.
Does somene have the original radio version 1.38.00 for posting?
thanks
Radio rom 1.38
@Olipro
Could you make an rom image with only radiorom 1.38 I have found that in the Netherlands radio 1.38 has a far better UMTS reception and it also has a far better GPS reception. This radio has no flaws and was developed for europe. I think 1.47 was optimized for the states and should be used over there. 1.45 was made for asia. So please make a 1.38 radiorom only.
QAN
QAN said:
@Olipro
Could you make an rom image with only radiorom 1.38 I have found that in the Netherlands radio 1.38 has a far better UMTS reception and it also has a far better GPS reception. This radio has no flaws and was developed for europe. I think 1.47 was optimized for the states and should be used over there. 1.45 was made for asia. So please make a 1.38 radiorom only.
QAN
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I can make one if you like
follow this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319993
Wow thank guy! You're definitively the X7500 Master
duttythroy said:
I can make one if you like
follow this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319993
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Hi
I have install this rom, but hare bugs, the radio is 1.45.0
the voice command dont work
need flash spl olipro
best rgds

PLease recommend best radio version for Orange UK

I currently have 02.07.10 and am experiencing problems with people calling and going direct to vm when i have 1 bar.
Also when I try to make calls with 1 bar it doesnt tend to connect/terminates the call.
Also can someone please point me in the right direction for the upgrade guide.
Thanks
Rom version 2.21.4.1 WWE
Rom date 3/9/06
Radio version 02.07.10
Protocol version 413.1.03
ExtROM version 2.21.4.101
Is no-one genuinely able to help me or am I asking the wrong questions?
I'm just putting a suggestion out there try searching for *radio rom* in the search this forum tab and browse through the prior posts, I started with 2.25 and have found that the performance of 2.69.11 is preety good, but i have also found others say that 2.19 is the most stable, but you will definately come to find out that radios are more of a trial and error, similar to what OS rom will work best for you, so try a couple and u be the judge performance wise, anyone else?
thanks ezitec, what network are you on out of curiosity?
ps i did searched and not found any specific mention of orange uk thats not to say i didnt miss it though lol
I have no idea about the radio versions. I am using the O2 sim card with my G4 Wizzard (O2 Mini S).
Anyone knows if it is safe to flash either the ExtRom or Radio rom to my CID Locked G4? Thanks
btw, i think my radio works just about fine, neither very good nor very bad.
If there is any issue on flashing the radio to my CID locked G4. Then I will just leave it.
But last time, I did flash the radio rom and Ext rom first before I flash the wm6. I suppose that it is safe to only flash these 2 roms, am I right?
If you are a cingular user
Click Herer
If you are a T-Mobile user
Click Here
there you will find other users opinions on all the radios. Here also you will find links to all the radios, a cab fix that helps with the missed call issue. Everything you need concerning your radio are in those threads.
Thanks but we are neither we are
SPAAARRRRTAAAAAAAAA
(sorry drifted off then)
Orange users.
alecoddlyiv said:
Thanks but we are neither we are
SPAAARRRRTAAAAAAAAA
(sorry drifted off then)
Orange users.
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I am O2 user, not orange
wildcolor said:
I am O2 user, not orange
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OK but this thread is about which rom is best for Orange users. I must say I'm an Orange user using 02.07.10 and WM6 and haven't experienced enough in the way of problems to make me think about upgrading the radio but I tend to be in areas of good signal. I guess maybe it's an issue of which rom will pick up in low signal situations rather than specific networks?

[RADIO]Raphael Radio Thread - Latest Raphael 1.13.25.55 Radio [27 November 2009]

****MOD EDIT**** DO NOT ATTEMPT TO FLASH ANY RADIO FROM THE FUZE/RAPHAEL/TOUCH PRO/TOUCH HD OR DIAMOND ON ANY OLDER DEVICE SUCH AS THE KASIER/TILT/HERMES/ETC... IT WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE PERMANENTLY UNLESS YOU OWN & KNOW JTAG.
I take no responsability or will be held liable over anything going wrong, so to make things clear "you flash these ROMs at your own risk!"
A bit of info, for those not familiar with the whole process.
Before flashing any radio to your device,
Please make sure your device has HardSPL by OliNex.
Flashing a new Radio ROM using CustomRUU, doesn't hard reset your device... But, if you are novice at the whole process, I would consider backing up your data anyway, just incase.
The same rules apply flashing a radio as they do a ROM, your device needs to have a battery charged to 50% or over.
Make sure when you flashing radio's, you use the one that works best for you, a radio that performs well for one person may not nescessarily work good for you.
Read the thread first before asking "trouble shooting" questions, they may have been answered already.
----------------------------------------------------- Diamond Radio's --------------------------------------------------------------
It is possible to flash Diamond Radio's, on the Raphael.
Before it's possible to so however, your device needs to be Security Unlocked which, you can get information about here.
The Diamond Radio Thread
Information on editing the Diamond radio to work on your Raphael is here.
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I'll say my thanks now to those who make the radio's available, obtaining, extracting etc... and to those who make the tools that allow us to do this.
Last but not least to Jcespi2005 for helping me out with this thread.
Please let me know if there is something you'd like me to include and of course let me know about the radio's and I'll update the thread accordingly.
[Mod Edit2]
If you want to use VOIP on yor device you will need a corresponding Rillphone for your Radio.
You can fin these on this thread:
RADIO Rilphone.dll W/ CABS - NO NEED TO PATCH OR HEX EDIT THE NBH
[Mod Edit3]
More Radio Ratings at:
Rate your radio [Original Raphael Radios]
Extracted from Official Raphael ROMs.
1.01.25.16 - AT&T
1.02.25.11 -HTC
1.02.25.19 - HTC
1.02.25.27 - Cingular
1.02.25.31 - Cingular
1.02.25.28 - Extract Official Shipped Orange ROM ESN 1.90.75.3
1.02.25.32 - AT&T
1.08.25.20M1 - Official Shipped Australian ROM
1.11.25.01 - Official ROM (Newest)
1.12.25.19 - Raphael Radio from Test rom
1.14.25.05 - Mirror - Raphael Radio (04-13-09)
1.14.25.35 - Mirror - Raphael Radio (06-04-09)
1.17.25.09 - Official Hotfix from HTC (South Africa) - 11-06-09
1.13.25.55 - Roaming Hotfix from HTC (South Korea) - 11-27-09
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Working Radio's From Other Device's.
Working Radio's From Other Device's.​
PLEASE NOTE YOUR DEVICE "MUST" BE SECURITY UNLOCKED TO BE ABLE TO FLASH THESE RADIOS.
The "SECURITY UNLOCK" is different to SIM Lock and HardSPL, the way to identify if your
device is "SECURITY UNLOCKED" is if it says "Security Unlocked" in the TRI Colour Bootloader Screen
To get your device security unlocked go here
Diamond Radio 1.00.25.16 | Mirror
Diamond Radio 1.00.25.05 | Mirror
Diamond Radio 1.03.25.18 | Mirror
Blackstone Radio 1.09.25.14 | Mirror
Diamond Radio 1.05.25.BS14 | Mirror
Diamond Radio 1.09.25.23 | Mirror
Diamond Radio 1.08.25.08 | Mirror
Xperia Radio 1.06.25.29 | Mirror
Quartz Radio 1.09.25.13 | Mirror
Diamond Radio 1.00.25.08 | Mirror
Blackstone Radio 1.08.25.23 | Mirror
Blackstone Radio 1.10.25.25 | Mirror
Xperia Radio 1.10.25.18 | Mirror
Blackstone Radio 1.09.25.35 | Mirror
Quartz Radio 1.11.25.01 | Mirror
Blackstone Radio 1.12.25.16 | Mirror
Blackstone Radio 1.13.25.24 | Mirror
Blackstone Radio 1.14.25.24 | Mirror 23 April 2009
Quartz Radio 1.12.25.WSD 3 May 2009
Xperia Radio 1.14.25.55
Diamond Radio 1.15.25.14 06/16/09
Xperia Radio 1.16.25.48 4th July 2009
BlackStone Radio 1.17.25.09 | Mirror (Newest) 16 September 2009​
Thanks to Jcespi2005, KevlarSource, AllTheWay, Nik3r, P1Tater and Captain_Throwback.
thanks for starting the thread
Now I wanna be as tactfull as possible but this information is already available in the wiki pages, and a thread for each radio is again already available. Whats wrong with it as it is??
Remember (having read the sticky threads and the announcement) the wiki is a VERY usefull resource which can be updated by ANYBODY so lets try using that shall we?
Wiki,ok it is handy,altough i also think it is handy to have a radio tread...on the wiki i cannot do a reply of how good or bad a version of a radio is.
mrvanx said:
Now I wanna be as tactfull as possible but this information is already available in the wiki pages, and a thread for each radio is again already available. Whats wrong with it as it is??
Remember (having read the sticky threads and the announcement) the wiki is a VERY usefull resource which can be updated by ANYBODY so lets try using that shall we?
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Very true, but without prejudice and in my defence, other's will find this usfull as already expressed by members in other threads in the Raph forum regarding the issue. You only have to look at how successful the "Ultimate Radio Thread" over in the Kaiser forum is, a lot of people dont go anywhere near the Wiki and this brings the "One stop shop" right to the front. Also with a thread like this, the opening of other "threads per radio" gets reduced?
mrvanx said:
Now I wanna be as tactfull as possible but this information is already available in the wiki pages, and a thread for each radio is again already available. Whats wrong with it as it is??
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Nothing wrong with the wiki but ppl can fins usefull a thread to talk about all radio ROMs and post the self experienceds with all of this so the rest ppl can see what radio can be better... wiki is really good information, but one thread with all radio ROM information to allow ppl ask for anyone compared with anyone can be usefull... i think...
The wiki can be edited by anyone, but is not so dinamic like a thread, and ppl can't ask or share experiences in the wiki...
This can be like the one started by Alltheway in Kaiser forum, just a thread with all Touch Pro radio ROM information.
Cheers
jcespi2005 said:
Nothing wrong with the wiki but ppl can fins usefull a thread to talk about all radio ROMs and post the self experienceds with all of this so the rest ppl can see what radio can be better... wiki is really good information, but one thread with all radio ROM information to allow ppl ask for anyone compared with anyone can be usefull... i think...
The wiki can be edited by anyone, but is not so dinamic like a thread, and ppl can't ask or share experiences in the wiki...
This can be like the one started by Alltheway in Kaiser forum, just a thread with all Touch Pro radio ROM information.
Cheers
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I absolutely agree with jcespi2005. The wiki is great but it is for "hard facts" which apply to everyone. As for radio-roms every radio has its advantages and they also depend largely on your personal phone-provider and your personal settings. So it think the wiki and this thread are both very useful and i wouldn't like to miss any of them.
As for the real purpose of this thread:
I have tested three radios so far: 1.02.25.28, 1.02.25.31 and 1.02.25.32.
For me .32 is the best. It seems to have a better 3g reception and in every other way to be as good as ver .28.
DeepThought said:
I absolutely agree with jcespi2005. The wiki is great but it is for "hard facts" which apply to everyone. As for radio-roms every radio has its advantages and they also depend largely on your personal phone-provider and your personal settings. So it think the wiki and this thread are both very useful and i wouldn't like to miss any of them.
As for the real purpose of this thread:
I have tested three radios so far: 1.02.25.28, 1.02.25.31 and 1.02.25.32.
For me .32 is the best. It seems to have a better 3g reception and in every other way to be as good as ver .28.
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How is GPS for you in .32? Seemed to be worse then in .28 for me... much worse.
Didn't have a chance to test gps yet but hopefully tomorrow I will!
dagrim1 said:
How is GPS for you in .32? Seemed to be worse then in .28 for me... much worse.
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Results may vary on country and provider....
(in other words (iow): update your profile, that could help others answering your questions)
dagrim1 said:
How is GPS for you in .32? Seemed to be worse then in .28 for me... much worse.
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Thats what my question was going to be, .28 is a lot better for me than .19 was (btw im in the UK) and i dont seem to have much of a lag problem with GPS that others experience, incidentley does anyone else that has the TP from Vodafone UK share my "Not too bad" experience with GPS performance with the .28 radio.
Still on .28 here,maybey tomorrow i gonna test out .32 (also test gps with.32),at this moment .28 is much better as .19 (my original radio).
First i have to tweak and install progams again on my pro,just flashed the new RomeOS 1.20
RavenY2K3 said:
Thats what my question was going to be, .28 is a lot better for me than .19 was (btw im in the UK) and i dont seem to have much of a lag problem with GPS that others experience, incidentley does anyone else that has the TP from Vodafone UK share my "Not too bad" experience with GPS performance with the .28 radio.
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Completely agree! vodafone TP with .28. Might leave .32 for a bit though.
...btw I understand that reception is relative to the version AND local cell provider but...
GPS IS NOT
...GPS reception is not relevant the country, provider or anything such!
if a radio has better GPS reception in Uganda, it probably has better reception in Alaska and Paris too
...and please people if possible when you test a radio and decide it is better or worse, do test GPS too (I know it can be difficult some times - but if you have a stable path to/from work, it's not that hard, you can see differences in a day)
NLS said:
...btw I understand that reception is relative to the version AND local cell provider but...
GPS IS NOT
...GPS reception is not relevant the country, provider or anything such!
if a radio has better GPS reception in Uganda, it probably has better reception in Alaska and Paris too
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Yes, i agree, GPS is not related to cell provider or country, but the software used to show your map possition and guide trough are related, so perhaps is a good idea to place the GPS software version used to test and map version too. This can help to understand the issue GPS overall for a radio version...
BTW, .32 is slight better than .28 for me using TomTom 7.451 and 7.25 Iberia Map... haven't tested iGo8, but i'll do it later.
Cheers
Well from my experience between the other radio's available at the minute (excluding .32) .28 is by far the best from the tests if done, I've still got my Kaiser and I get both side-by-side and test the new radio's for fix, accuracy etc...
In my job,it involves a lot of driving in the Derbyshire country side in the UK, a lot of winding roads and .28 seem's to be the best, but what i was trying to suggest in my last post, is maybe there's something in the Original Vodafone UK ROM, settings and the like, that maybe the reason why users of the stock vodafone ROM, don't display the same sort of GPS problems, or experince them less, that other users experince?
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In my job,it involves a lot of driving in the Derbyshire country side in the UK, a lot of winding roads and .28 seem's to be the best, but what i was trying to suggest in my last post, is maybe there's something in the Original Vodafone UK ROM, settings and the like, that maybe the reason why users of the stock vodafone ROM, don't display the same sort of GPS problems, or experince them less, that other users experince?
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Would be a good idea to have a dump of this vodafone UK stock ROM to take a look
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Would be a good idea to have a dump of this vodafone UK stock ROM to take a look
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I think you may already have it, you've made a reconstructed one over on your "How to Reconstruct a Raphael Dumped ROM & Reconstructed ROMs" thread.
I can make a fresh dump if you prefer though.

[Q] Using ROM 2.13 on European HD2s?

Probably a stupid question, but since HTC show no inclination to release the latest ROMs like 2.13 for European phones, does the TMOUS 2.13 ROM work perfectly on European HD2s? Is it the best stock ROM option or are we safer sticking to the WWE 1.66 ROM?
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tmous roms work fine on regular leo. 2.13 isn't the latest, there's a 2.14 somewhere, and even a 3.something, i think, though i'm not sure whether that can be flashed as is or whether It's only for use in cooked roms, so be sure and read around.,
On my T8585 it doesn't work. I had tried many ROMs(TMOUS based and TMOUS stock) and with every single one phone is stuck(completely frozen - only battery removing or soft reset helps) on Launching HTC Sense. All that with 2.08 or 1.66 HSPL and 2.xx.50 radios. If I flash 2.xx.51 radio, phone is able to boot and start Sense but after receiving or making a call the phone is frozen again. But, with 2.xx.51 I can disable HTC Sense. Then I flash back .50 radio. Phone can then work with that radio without Sense but is very unstable and can be frozen at any time. Tried the same scenario with and withouth SD card - no difference.
Tried also latest test ROMs, 3.01 and 3.02 WWE, and 3.04 all watermarked. With any HSPL(1.66,1.43 or 2.08) in hardware information is stated 576MB of RAM, but on SD Card&Phone Storage Settings there is only about 200MB Total program(it should be 448MB). After flashing full test ROM(with new SPL 3.02 - flashed with gold card) memory settings are usual for any standard LEO regardless or flashed radio.
you, my friend, have a fault.
every day dozens(hundreds?) of people flash tmous based roms to regular hd2s with no issues. id start with a flash back to stock, maybe task29 too, if i were you.
i've had a regular leo since january and in all that time it has spent a total of maybe 5 days NOT running a tmous based rom with a tmous radio.
Hello Samsamuel
Tried that also but it doesn't help at all.
Stock ROMs works without a hitch but 576mb enabled ones is a bitter kind of fruit for my Leo. Also Android works but I have to add mem=352M in the set cmdline for full RAM kernel. I think something is wrong with my phones RAM memory. I've bout the phone on 4th of dec last year with 2years contract from VIP in Serbia. It was factory unlocked from the start. I don't have any information how other phones from VIP behave regarding RAM.
At the moment I am using Artemis 27 ROM with 1.66 HSPL and 2.12.50 radio and it's working fine - no major drawbacks.
What's the numbers on boot loader screen for ptouch and pled on your phone( on mine is 0x05 and 0x20)?
miksi said:
Hello Samsamuel
Tried that also but it doesn't help at all.
Stock ROMs works without a hitch but 576mb enabled ones is a bitter kind of fruit for my Leo. Also Android works but I have to add mem=352M in the set cmdline for full RAM kernel. I think something is wrong with my phones RAM memory. I've bout the phone on 4th of dec last year with 2years contract from VIP in Serbia. It was factory unlocked from the start. I don't have any information how other phones from VIP behave regarding RAM.
At the moment I am using Artemis 27 ROM with 1.66 HSPL and 2.12.50 radio and it's working fine - no major drawbacks.
What's the numbers on boot loader screen for ptouch and pled on your phone( on mine is 0x05 and 0x20)?
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ahh well in that case it sounds like you may have a pre production model, and sorry but i dont want to advise you any more, since i have no knowledge of them, except that they dont seem to have the same ammount of RAM as the regular leo.
There is a user called xmoo who is very interested and knowledgable about test models, maybe he can tell you more (and indeed help you tell whether it IS a pre prod or not)
Ja sam imao slične probleme kada sam koristio "stari" HSPL2, pa sam stavio HSPL3 i sve radi savršeno. Moj HD2 je kupljen u HR VIPu isto je došao otključan.
Koristim KWBR 3.12 i Radio: 2.12.50.02_2. Ako si isprobao sve, onda nema druge nego prodaš svoj uređaj i nabaviš drugi... Može bit da je VIP poslao na srbsko tržište neke "čudne" verzije uređaja.
Hello,
Could somebody clarify my mind about differences between rom for European or T-Mobile HD2.
I will receive my HD2 T-Mobile within few days. How can I be sure not to brick it from start ?
I red somewhere that I have to use HSPL3 before flashing any ROM.
If I start with that does my phone protected from bad ROM, can I try every ROM I see or is there something minimum release or something else to take care before selecting ROM ?
If you think I'm out of context, please let me know or reply me using MP.
Ocelot
non tmous based cooked roms in themselves won't brick your device, but they won't work either, however non tmous stock roms contain radios that WILL permanently brick your device.you are currently posting in the regular hd2 section, go back to the site root and find the tmous specific hd2 section, and only get your roms from there.
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non tmous based cooked roms in themselves won't brick your device, but they won't work either, however non tmous stock roms contain radios that WILL permanently brick your device.you are currently posting in the regular hd2 section, go back to the site root and find the tmous specific hd2 section, and only get your roms from there.
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Thank you for answer.
I know there is a specific section for T-Mobile HD2, but as you have probably seen, I'm Belgian and I'm looking for French ROM. Nobody report French version in the appropriate section because TMOUS is not sold in Europe.
May I ask you how I can know if a ROM includes radios or not ? Is there specific [] to tell me Yes or Not ?
Thanks.
P.S. This is my last message in that item so left place for Standard EU HD2 owner.
cooked roms will always say in the first few posts whether they are tmous compatible. i've not seen any cooked rom that includes a radio, but so long as you read the first posts, all the info will bethere. if in doubt, simply don't flash it, there are plenty to choose from.
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Thank you for answer.
I know there is a specific section for T-Mobile HD2, but as you have probably seen, I'm Belgian and I'm looking for French ROM. Nobody report French version in the appropriate section because TMOUS is not sold in Europe.
May I ask you how I can know if a ROM includes radios or not ? Is there specific [] to tell me Yes or Not ?
Thanks.
P.S. This is my last message in that item so left place for Standard EU HD2 owner.
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It doesn't matter if your phone is a T-Mobile one or not. What does matter is if your phone is a USA T-Mobile. The specification: European model hass a 512MB ROM and 448MB RAM, the USA version has a 1GB ROM and 576MB RAM. Go to the 'Settings' tab, select 'About phone', select 'Hardware information'. There you will see the RAM and ROM information.
If you are flashing an HTC or mobile operators ROM then HSPL is not required. If you want to flash a custom ROM, then HSPL is required. No doubt, in the future you will at least want to try out a custom ROM, therefore it does little harm to flash HSPL to give you more flexability.

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