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Hey I don't normally post on here, I have been over at ppcgeeks for over a year now and thought everyone would like to read this. Hopefully its true.
"Read this before you start flaming....
So, recognizing that it is definately NOT early Q1 2008 anymore, I decided to go on an info seeking quest with Sprint Customer Service. After about 45 minutes of being put on hold...transfered twice...some social engineering....I finally got transfered to a device engineer. Mind you, this was not any type of customer service rep or tech support guy. This was an engineer who actually worked on it.
He confirmed, and very quickly I might add (didn't need to look anything up....he immediately knew the answer), that the update we all DESPERATELY want will come out this Friday, February 15th. I said to him, "This Friday? That's a strange day. You guys usually release on Mondays." He replied, "Yes, it is an unusual day. We are releasing it on Friday because it's already late to market."
I think this is pretty credible info. He backed it up with admission of a strange release day and the fact that it's late.
Now, bring it on Naysayers...."
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=18489
We don't flame here:-D
I'm pretty sure this is the tenth "for sure" release date we've heard.
Well, I was on hold with Sprint for almost 45 minutes and was told that the new update was coming out on Friday. He couldn't give me any details other than that. Sounds promising, but I'm not going to hold my breath!
ScottC said:
I'm pretty sure this is the tenth "for sure" release date we've heard.
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I know, but I am just hoping that Sprint will follow through on one of them. At least by default.
here is why I wouldn't believe this...(and I'm not flaming the poster here just pointing out some inconsistencies...)
1 - If it was actually done and what he said was true they would have released it as soon as it was officially DONE...for the same reasons he said it would be released on a friday...It's Late...Why delay till friday if it is complete?
2 - Sorint isn't the one actually working on this release...HTC is! All Sprint might do is integrate it into a ROM for their phones but HTC was the one actually working on the radio. Maybe the radio is done and Spint has it but again if they had it why wait till friday to release it?
Only reason to wait on a release is for testing purposes...
And if that is true then they could just as easily find a problem and delay again...
No matter what the truth is, It will be done when it's done! We have DCD's ROMs to work with for now. And even if Sprint does release Friday it will take a day or two before guys like DCD and No2Chem extract the stable radio in it and cook up some Roms for everyone else.
The only thing I know thats happening on Friday for Sprint is that my neighbor and good friend maybe out of a job, Sprint is going through a MASSIVE restructuring and layoff. His support area is going from 15 cell site techs to 7.... Sprints got real issues other than slow ROM updates
Asphyx said:
And even if Sprint does release Friday it will take a day or two before guys like DCD and No2Chem extract the stable radio in it and cook up some Roms for everyone else.
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i dont know about a few days, when the 3.16 beta was leaked DCD had cooked roms up in about 8 hours, lol
Asphyx said:
here is why I wouldn't believe this...(and I'm not flaming the poster here just pointing out some inconsistencies...)
1 - If it was actually done and what he said was true they would have released it as soon as it was officially DONE...for the same reasons he said it would be released on a friday...It's Late...Why delay till friday if it is complete?
2 - Sorint isn't the one actually working on this release...HTC is! All Sprint might do is integrate it into a ROM for their phones but HTC was the one actually working on the radio. Maybe the radio is done and Spint has it but again if they had it why wait till friday to release it?
Only reason to wait on a release is for testing purposes...
And if that is true then they could just as easily find a problem and delay again...
No matter what the truth is, It will be done when it's done! We have DCD's ROMs to work with for now. And even if Sprint does release Friday it will take a day or two before guys like DCD and No2Chem extract the stable radio in it and cook up some Roms for everyone else.
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You'd be surprised. I used to work for a company (will let the company rename nameless) that did all the picturemail testing and QA for sprint phones and when we would get new firmware and everything was QAed and done and certified for release the firmware was not "immediately" released. They ALWAYS set a date a for real production but would have it in "production" for a week or so with the sprint people to make sure everything worked fine.
why dont they just mail the files to dcd or colonel and let them do it for em? seems like something would actually get done and done right.
Tregrad said:
why dont they just mail the files to dcd or colonel and let them do it for em? seems like something would actually get done and done right.
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You know, that does make sense...
Bwhite4801 said:
Hey I don't normally post on here, I have been over at ppcgeeks for over a year now and thought everyone would like to read this. Hopefully its true.
"Read this before you start flaming....
So, recognizing that it is definately NOT early Q1 2008 anymore, I decided to go on an info seeking quest with Sprint Customer Service. After about 45 minutes of being put on hold...transfered twice...some social engineering....I finally got transfered to a device engineer. Mind you, this was not any type of customer service rep or tech support guy. This was an engineer who actually worked on it.
He confirmed, and very quickly I might add (didn't need to look anything up....he immediately knew the answer), that the update we all DESPERATELY want will come out this Friday, February 15th. I said to him, "This Friday? That's a strange day. You guys usually release on Mondays." He replied, "Yes, it is an unusual day. We are releasing it on Friday because it's already late to market."
I think this is pretty credible info. He backed it up with admission of a strange release day and the fact that it's late.
Now, bring it on Naysayers...."
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=18489
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I'll check with my friend who leaked me the early testing version with GPS and RevA
I'm sure he's reliable
I am just confused why the release will be Friday. Usually they release Monday just in case there are any issues they have tech support on hand M-F to fix the issues. I am talking even the basic issues with a good rom. Plus everyone knows the techs do not set the release data. Upper Management sets the release date once they feel like it is in control. Just my opinion.
they cant tech their way out of a wet paper sack anyway. the devs in here are far better support than any pin head at sprint will ever be. Ill wait for the xda gurus and the ppc guys (if they get their site working right) to put thier heads together and build a screamin rom for us all
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they cant tech their way out of a wet paper sack anyway. the devs in here are far better support than any pin head at sprint will ever be. Ill wait for the xda gurus and the ppc guys (if they get their site working right) to put thier heads together and build a screamin rom for us all
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Are you stupid or something? Do you really think any carrier makes thier own ROM? HTC does all of it, every little bit, and then carriers bug test and HTC sends them another. Why do people think carriers make phones or software? All they make is a network.
AmazingLarry said:
Are you stupid or something? Do you really think any carrier makes thier own ROM? HTC does all of it, every little bit, and then carriers bug test and HTC sends them another. Why do people think carriers make phones or software? All they make is a network.
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Oh no... and carefull tossing around accusations of "stupidity"... You've already touched upon testing, but also often either in house or contracted out development is done for carrier specific applications and configurations for the carriers' released ROMs.
Kmart Afther you gave us gps you have my complete trust!
http://www.america.htc.com/support/mogul/software-downloads.html
HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008. Please bookmark this page for easy reference.
why is this something we are supposed to get excited about? we've had it for weeks
now if it was the video drivers... that would be another story
fusQer said:
http://www.america.htc.com/support/mogul/software-downloads.html
HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008. Please bookmark this page for easy reference.
why is this something we are supposed to get excited about? we've had it for weeks
now if it was the video drivers... that would be another story
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I think a lot of people are hoping for a less flaky radio in the official version (that doesn't randomly drop the data connection). Really that's about it I think.
They ALWAYS set a date a for real production but would have it in "production" for a week or so with the sprint people to make sure everything worked fine.
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Well my point was until their final testing is complete you can't really be sure they have a stable release at all...
they may have set Friday as the release date so they could test but that friday is just another deadline that could be missed if they find some issue between now and then...
So you can't really say it is READY unless you have already done all your testing and if you haven't then it is not actually ready yet...
In either case something said is not really fact! Either it was tested and ready so why not release...Or it is being tested until friday to see if it is good and therefore NOT READY yet...
Thats all I was trying to get across.
i dont know about a few days, when the 3.16 beta was leaked DCD had cooked roms up in about 8 hours, lol
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LOL very true....
New Response From [ Pete (UK - Ireland Support (Tech)) ]
Hi Hywel, thanks for your email.
I understand this may be frustrating, but the 16th was never the release date. there were some 'leaks' on the internet, but those were incorrect, It was never planned for today at all.
The update will be available for everyone from the end of the month as planned. it will be phased out over a week or so to spread out the download demand, but it was certainly never going to appear today.
Best regards,
Pete W
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Hi Where is the hero 2.1 upgrade for me to download?? It’s the 16th of April the day the upgrade is scheduled for release. If it’s not released today then when? If this is so then I can’t believe this delay as its been promised again and again !!!!!
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They never said that ROM 2.1 will be released on 16th. I don't know where you get that.
1st they said they will release 2.1 ROM upgrades in March. When March came they said that due to some technical issues we have to wait till mid April for release.
So now it is mid April and some tech guy says it will be released at the end of the month. Guess what, at the end of month they will say that it will be released in mid May.
Did you get the game rules now ? They want as to buy their new Incredible phone!
The 16th was on a schedule that was leaked a moth or so ago.
But it should never have been believed anyway.
Lennyuk said:
The 16th was on a schedule that was leaked a moth or so ago.
But it should never have been believed anyway.
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mainly because of... where did that "leak" come from? i mean it is as easy as this:
leaked from HTC Customer Care:
Release Date of HTC Hero Android 2.1 Upgrade: 17. April 2010
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see? it is not gonna happen tomorrow because i claim it. as long as it isn't a *ruu*.exe file i don't believe anything anymore...
edit: lol, now wait for the five threads that will be created quoting the above
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luvgirl12345 said:
Hey guys yo no wat?? 2.1 update iz supozed to be relesed tomorow!!! OMFG im so hapy xD...
lol that was fun.
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Nice misleading thread title bro.
I wonder if I'm the only one getting sick and tired of reading these threads about official 2.1...
twmshwn said:
Hi Where is the hero 2.1 upgrade for me to download?? It’s the 16th of April the day the upgrade is scheduled for release. If it’s not released today then when? If this is so then I can’t believe this delay as its been promised again and again !!!!!
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I think you didn't put enough exclamation marks in your original enquiry for them to take you seriously. And if I were you, I'd sue that guy who promised you update on April 16th again and again. Uh wait. Nobody promised that. Nevermind then.
Imagine having to man the email response section at HTC for the Hero with all the plums emailing you asking every 10 mins when the 2.1 update will be out!
I wonder how high the internal window jumper rate is... or forced handset in throat related deaths in the HTC office..
I also emailed them and they said the android 2.1 updates will be coming out starting at the end of april including for your HTC hero
whitealien said:
Did you get the game rules now ? They want as to buy their new Incredible phone!
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I don't buy that as it makes little sense. It would hardly increase sales figures for the new devices at all. Most cellphone owners are locked into a contract which means if they want to upgrade before it's renewal time they have two choices.....wait, or pay over the odds to do so.....almost everyone (except die hard early adopters who are an extremely small percentage of owners) chooses the first option.
Then you have the fact that the newer handsets have better hardware and software, and all the ROM upgrades in the world won't change the hardware, so who in their right mind is going to choose an older phone knowing they'll have to mess about and upgrade it when they can just go get the shiny new model for free on another contract?
For all we (I) know, the delays could be due to more tweaks needed to make the ROM run at an acceptable level on handsets that have an inferior hardware spec than those that it was originally designed for.
the delays are mostly due because the htc servers couldnt possibly support all desire, hero and legend updates at the same time, thats why they are rolling ou the updates slowly, starting with the desire network providers, then the legend probably and finally the hero
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I don't buy that as it makes little sense. It would hardly increase sales figures for the new devices at all. Most cellphone owners are locked into a contract which means if they want to upgrade before it's renewal time they have two choices.....wait, or pay over the odds to do so.....almost everyone (except die hard early adopters who are an extremely small percentage of owners) chooses the first option.
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I know this is not true as I and many of my friends are not on contracts (actually can only think of 1 who is) and prefer to buy outright as to upgrade as we see fit, and change service provider too. But I do agree with your point, it would not be a way to increase sales, more likely just internal bureaucracy is the cause for the set back.
Seriously people, there's a little thing called patience. My mother always told me that good things come to those who wait.
Come ladies and gentlemen, place your bets!
i think so lots of websites have scans of an internal memo stating the update as the 30th. if not the 30th then the 7th since thats when free hotspot promo ends and they said a software update would disable this.
No
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Verizon does like to do things on Thursdays, so we shall see.
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i agree verizon loves releaseing things on thursdays
Considering that there have been few rumblings (other than some well placed informants), I'd have to say probably not a full blown release, but maybe the start of soak testing.
I'm not holding my breath
Who really cares anyways?
If you are on this forum, chances are you are already running some type of GB on your phone and it is probably better than any "stock" release whether that is tomorrow or a month from now.
the GB roms run great (im on theory)....but come on man...its not going to be as stable as a final GB + Sense build...there are many proprietary files that are not complete with the test build...i cant see why the new official build wont increase are GB rom experience
What will happen to if you have a rooted phone. Will the update break the root?
Chowdur said:
What will happen to if you have a rooted phone. Will the update break the root?
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Just wait for one of the devs to make a rooted version of the release and then flash the zip to your phone. Simple as pie.
you shouldnt update if you are rooted. wait for a rooted stock firmware.
I highly doubt it since there's been little or no talk at all about it. I was wondering since I just snatched one off of CL for super cheap. guess I'll go root instead.
I'd like to point out that it was all of 3 weeks ago they leaked something that looked like a reliable RUU called MR2 that was beyond question Froyo. Is it just me, or am I the ONLY one that took one look at that fake looking photo and said to myself "Dear God, the only thing that would look more fake would be a duck bill on a cactus." Can you imagine what the order for such a thing would sound like? "Hey, Johnny! We need and INTERNAL MEMO drawn up. Make sure to put our logo in the LEFT corner where NOBODY would ever put a logo on official stationary, be sure to add a picture of the device incase NOBODY has ever seen our first LTE phone, and definitely add specific OTA release numbers AND the radio version that will include so that our boys down in technical support will grow big rubbery ones as they dangle the information out there at hords of pimple-faced geeks calling with 'problems' but are really just hoping for the next big scoop for Androidforums.com" If Gingerbread come out in an official OTA today, I will eat my Thunderbolt and post the video on Youtube. I promise. In fact, if it comes out in the next 90 days, I'll eat the phone.
Aaaaaaand.....NOPE.
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Aaaaaaand.....NOPE.
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saw that coming.
btw, some people are getting a little upset over this whole topic. it'll get here one day (hopefully), just chill out
I don't even care about gingerbread. I just want the bugs fixed.
No I called Verizon's tech and he told me that there is no update coming out
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I'm here to collect my $100 from each dum-dum who believed it was coming out today, thank you.
It's released
Gingerbread for the Thunderbolt is released.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140967
So, take this for what it is worth. I was in Best Buy this afternoon checking out the Photon when I asked what he had heard about the GS2. He checked his computer and said they don't have an official date, but they had been given a date of September 4th for when they would be receiving more information. He also said with that, that it would be extremely unlikely to see the phone before then. I have no idea if this guy was blowin' smoke and for all of our sakes, I hope he was. It would be very bad news indeed for those of us expecting an August release.
What do you guys think? Does someone in his position really have access to that type of information, especially this early?
So, its finally here. I'm in India, and its 11PM IST for me. Another hour and history shall be created
Lets hope we get some Dev love once the ICS kernel is out! Can't wait to get CM9/AOKP working on this baby!
It's the 12th of June - you don't say. (well not quite for me yet)
What happens today?
Soon, soon, the 12th of June.
The ICS fallacy and plot.
I know of no reason why the ICS delay
Should ever be forgot.
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Soon, soon, the 12th of June.
The ICS fallacy and plot.
I know of no reason why the ICS delay
Should ever be forgot.
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Hehe....this has to be the MOST dramatic wait ever!
Hate to burst your bubble but, these times are not relative to where you live if it does drop "today" (really tomorrow) it will be atleast another 10 and a half hours as the release times are basically MIDNIGHT EST which is -5:00 UTC, plus the rumor was for the US verison based xt912's not the global launch.
codesage said:
Soon, soon, the 12th of June.
The ICS fallacy and plot.
I know of no reason why the ICS delay
Should ever be forgot.
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Well played, sir.
Ya i read the 12th date was Verizon's drop
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yeah, I know. But at least if the Droid gets it, we'll know we're gonna get it soon. Besides, I'm sure somebody could cook up a custom ROM n then use the GSM patch
Just out of curiosity, what does OP stand for?
cheekrox said:
yeah, I know. But at least if the Droid gets it, we'll know we're gonna get it soon. Besides, I'm sure somebody could cook up a custom ROM n then use the GSM patch
Just out of curiosity, what does OP stand for?
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Original post or poster.
On another note, I just spoke to the user on here who created an account to prove ICS was out. He said it's for sure releasing on the 12th, so we can all sleep well tonight.
As more people believing in this, as less the chances to happen.
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Hehehe
I already have my alarm set for 11:58 may not even go to sleep till it comes out or at least until I know if it is really coming or not!!! I guess @ 12:05 if I haven't seen anything I'll go to sleep again and I am EST so should get it as soon as it drops!!!
xgshortbus25 said:
I already have my alarm set for 11:58 may not even go to sleep till it comes out or at least until I know if it is really coming or not!!! I guess @ 12:05 if I haven't seen anything I'll go to sleep again and I am EST so should get it as soon as it drops!!!
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You Sily people.
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There's been absolutely no word from Verizon or Moto regarding an OTA tomorrow. As bad as I want it, I'm not getting my hopes up... (still gonna wear a divot in my screen where the "system updates" button sits, though...)
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WillKennerley said:
It's the 12th of June - you don't say. (well not quite for me yet)
What happens today?
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12th is the day that precedes the 13th.
Go figure...
I for one will not be surprised if the 12th comes and goes with no updates to my Razr.
It's the 11th for most in US. And I highly highly highly doubt the Droid RAZR will get a soak before GSM, it's just not how stuff works
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It's the 11th for most in US. And I highly highly highly doubt the Droid RAZR will get a soak before GSM, it's just not how stuff works
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Can you explain your though [TSON].? Saw guys saying this but I don't get it why. Thanks
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It never was intented to be release for India, only Verizon users.
I'm setting my phone's date to the 13th.
I'm going to have ICS yesterday.
Moto/Verizon haven't even announced a soak test for the ICS release yet (to my knowledge, and I was on the last one). As much as I'd love to be proven wrong, I don't see any OTA release in the next week, much less the next day.