Hi,
With all of the above one receives a message - "Microsoft Office Outlook (error box reports): Either there is no default mail client or the current mail client cannot fulfill the messaging request. Please run Microsoft Outlook and set it as the default mail client. " Not good, I am unable to sync MS to MS! although having read on the forums the new iphone is able to!!! I am actually tempted to move to the iphone, I have always had MS phones for ease of use, this is clearly not the case anymore!
Having searched and searched for an answer, I have given up. I have spoken to HTC and Microsoft who quite frankly were very rude and pretty non challant. "Not our problem speak to the manufacturer" - which I am not sure I understand as all the problems arise from MS software issues!
I am asking here if anyone can think of a work around? I am stuck and cannot believe I am the only one in this predicament! I have searched these forums and no-one it seems is having this issue!
Thank-you in advance,
Will
William Richardson said:
Hi,
With all of the above one receives a message - "Microsoft Office Outlook (error box reports): Either there is no default mail client or the current mail client cannot fulfill the messaging request. Please run Microsoft Outlook and set it as the default mail client. " Not good, I am unable to sync MS to MS! although having read on the forums the new iphone is able to!!! I am actually tempted to move to the iphone, I have always had MS phones for ease of use, this is clearly not the case anymore!
Having searched and searched for an answer, I have given up. I have spoken to HTC and Microsoft who quite frankly were very rude and pretty non challant. "Not our problem speak to the manufacturer" - which I am not sure I understand as all the problems arise from MS software issues!
I am asking here if anyone can think of a work around? I am stuck and cannot believe I am the only one in this predicament! I have searched these forums and no-one it seems is having this issue!
Thank-you in advance,
Will
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I'm guessing you have Outlook set as your PC's default mail program?
Yes! Been through all that with HTC - who I must say were very helpful. Apparently it does not work and MS will not bring out WMDC (64bit)! Crazy I know.... I now need a work around.....
Will
I had the same issue.... my "fix".... was to go back to 2007 x86 !
I think 2010 x86 would have worked, but i use Jeyo, which doesn't work with 2010..
So yeah... if you can get hold of the x86 version of Office... give it a go.
I had the same problem with Outlook2010 x64 and WMDC x64.
Microsoft officially states somewhere, that WMDC only supports MAPI x86 of Outlook. Installing Outlook 2010 x86 fixed that.
I've already bought outlook though!
Will
I've already bought outlook though!
Will
William Richardson said:
I've already bought outlook though!
Will
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What kind of license did you buy? Normally they include both the x64 and x86 bit versions.
either that - or download a copy, then use your key with it (debatable whether or not that is legal - so hmm).
Yup 'Pooper' your right they are all shipped together with the same licence. I am now on completely 32bit. I a unable to use excel and powerpoint 64bit if I use 32bit outlook. It was a case of choosing betwee syncing the pda or using very large excel and ppt docs! Way to go MS, what a way to sell your products. There does not seem to be a workaround other than the above. Alternatively MS could update there software! So we can use it as it is meant to be used!
Annoyed at MS,
Will!
32bit, 64bit
This question is posted trough many threads, but here is an answer:
It doesn't matter if you have Windows 7 32bit or 64bit. What is important, is which bit version you have on your Outlook.
Outlook 2010 32bit is supported by WM Device Center and HTC Sync v.3.0.5422.
Outlook 2010 64bit is not.
The error message you got if you have Outlook 2010 x64 is:
"Either there is no default mail client or the current mail client cannot fulfill the
messaging request. Please run Microsoft Outlook and set it as the default mail
client."
That means: Current mail client cannot fulfill the messaging request (It's not 32bit).
So, if you have Windows 7 x64 with Outlook x86, WM Device Center and HTC Sync works.
Quote from Microsoft technet site (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee681792.aspx)
"Windows Mobile Device Center (WMDC) synchronization, WMDC does not synchronize with Microsoft Outlook 2010 if you use the 64-bit version of Outlook 2010. In such cases, an error message displays that states that there is no default mail client or the current mail client cannot fulfill the messaging. WMDC synchronizes correctly with the 32-bit version of Outlook 2010. To synchronize a Windows Phone with Outlook 2010 by using Windows Mobile Device Center, uninstall Outlook 2010 64-bit. Then use the original installer that you used to obtain Outlook 2010 64-bit to install Outlook 2010 32-bit. Outlook 2010 32-bit is the default option."
Hello,
If you have not found a solution you can try http://www.companionlink.com/products/companionlink-outlook.html
j
Solved initial issue on 64bit wm7 pro. I realised there is 2 version on WDMC. 10mb and 12 mb version. the 12mb version is working fine. link below
http://www.microsoft.com/download/e...Nqygv1Rd1jdjoD4k7hsTsb33bRCUV0rkSPd8WhesHKA==
good luck.. over and out! looks like TytN II lives on.. thank god!
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Hi,
Any body can help to resolve this issue? This is a persistent problem between my SPV M3100 and all computers and laptops around me!
Thanks
Anoush
Hi, try witj this fix from MS:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/912242
Try deleting the partnership from both ends i.e from the device so also from teh computer or just run a repair of the ActiveSync.
2. Check the .PST file should be less that 750MB (Recomended)
3.Try a diffrent outlook profile.
SUCCESS
After 5 months of trying I have finally been able to get my wife's outlook calendar to sync with her HTC Touch Pro.
PROBLEM:
All we wanted was to sync the info on her Hotmail (er, Windows Live) account (mail, contacts, calendar) with her new 'smart' phone. Everything being Microsoft, this should be a piece of cake, right? Her Palm Pilot was able to do this 15 years ago, so one wouldn't think this operation to be too complex. Ohh, but enter Microsoft cluster**** world.
Windows Live does over the air sync mail and contacts quite nicely with Windows Mobile, no complaints there. Calendar, however, must only be for those wussy iPhone types. So, the solution is to buy Outlook (we got 2007), install it on a desktop. Then download Outlook connector, and sync Outlook with Windows Live. Now Outlook can be used to view Hotmail. We should be golden, right, with this unfortunate solution of having to cable-sync the calendar. Nope.
Every time the phone gets plugged in, WMDC gives the error 'Desktop Synchronization cannot be completed. Reduce your mailbox size by deleting some items and folders and try again Support Code 85010017'. Also, there was the problem of Outlook randomly locking up, and requiring a reboot to get it going again. My wife gave up trying to use Outlook, and just logged onto the website to do anything. It took a while to realize that it was after she plugged her phone in was when Outlook took a hiatus.
So, after researching, I tried all the tricks, and nothing worked. I was starting with a fresh install of Windows Mobile 6.5.x and a fresh install of Windows 7, so legacy data wasn't the problem, though I repetetivly tried completely removing all partnerships, removing WMDC and it's registry values, etc. I reduced my ost file from 200mb to 20mb (meg, not gig, how could it have a problem with that), to no avail. There wasn't even have a pst file.
SOLUTION:
When setting up a partnership using Windows Mobile Device Center (WMDC), when selecting Calendar, 'Sync Settings' would become active. From that, changing from 'past 1 month' to 'past 2 weeks' eliminated the 85010017 error code, and supposedly the sync was successful.
It just didn't appear to be successful, since no appointments were transferred to the phone. However, I found that if I created a new appointment, it would sync over (both ways). This led me to find that if I edited and saveD the existing appointments, it would sync over. Apparrently, it just doesn't want to sync existing events. So after resaving all her existing events, we now have success. And Outlook doesn't freeze anymore.
ALTERNATIVE:
So, one way to avoid all this hassle would have been to use Google Calendar Sync to sync her data to a Google Calandar, then add an ActiveSync Exchange serve to the Google Calandar, which would have provided over the air syncing of her calendar to her phone. So the chain would have been Windows Live> Outlook Connector> Outlook> Google Calendar Sync> Google Calendar> ActiveSync/Exchange Server on the phone> Outlook Mobile. Simple as can be, right? I did try this, and it does work well.
But my thinking was this was too much room for error, I would be better doing it the proper way and just syncing her phone directly to the computer with a cable and all Microsoft software. Silly me, I should have known that third parties can make more reliable use of Microsoft data than Microsoft can.
BONUS:
The one nice thing is I found a way around Windows Mobile limitation of only one calendar, sort of.
I wanted to have multiple calendars in Outlook, so we could have shared items on one (like bulk trash pickup) that both of us would see (I also have a WM phone, an HTC Touch Diamond), but I wouldn't have to look at all her daily events, and I wouldn't have to see hers.
So, the work around for two calendars is to use catagories in her Outlook, with one being a 'Shared' category. When she syncs her phone she gets all items on her phone, and can even create new events on her phone with categories. So she is good. Then I installed gSyncit on the desktop, which allows us to sync specific categories to a Google calendar. One calendar is free, and to do additional calendars would mean paying the $14.95 for the program, which I don't think was bad, even though I stuck with the one free one. Then, gSyncit is again installed on my work computer, again having those Google calendar events go to a Shared category. Then, all those events are nicely sync'd over the companies exchange server to my phone, again in categories.
Another way to get multiple calendars to sync with the phone would have been to use almost all of these same steps, but with OggSync replacing gSyncit and ActiveSync, but at $30 per year, there is no way I am going to pay that much for conveluted patch. Which brings me to the moral of the story:
DO NOT BUY A WINDOWS MOBILE PHONE:
It is the worst excuse for an operating system that I have seen since DOS. There is no way Microsoft should be allowing it to exist. It does more harm for them than good.
I've suffered through over a decade of God-awful Microsoft Word. I've suffered through the Vista. But WM is the elephant that broke the camel's back. After an eternity of being a Windows promoter, I am now telling everyone to avoid Microsoft at all costs. As the guy that everyone goes to for advice, I am now sending them to Apple, be it Mac or iPhone. Or Android. Or simply forgo the technology, you'll be better off without the extreme amount of maintenance it requires to keep Windows going.
Goodbye, Microsoft. You've past critical-mass, and can no longer function.
Goodbye, Microsoft. You've past critical-mass, and can no longer function.
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I lol'ed.
Also, I agree. Did you know that live mail accounts (hotmail) don't support ActiveSync, M$'s own syncing protocol? GMAIL as well as most other email services support it, but microsoft's biggest email service does not.
If you would like to be entertained/depressed, check out
windowslivehelp.com/community/t/100579.aspx
It is a microsoft help forum thread which embodies the failure of microsoft. It gets funnier as it goes on.
My experience now.. HTC TP2 and ActiveSync
mikgyver said:
Goodbye, Microsoft. You've past critical-mass, and can no longer function.
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I would like to quit MS too now - made a bad mistake to buy an new Touch Pro 2. After trying to sync with Blackberry Client for windows, which took me 2 days but was successful in the end - I tried to sync with 2 Windows XP Computers via ActiveSync 4.5. One works, the other doesn't - no chance. Can't see why - with the HTC Kaiser this worked - not really without problems over the years - but mostly it worked.
Now the trial to sync just contacts and calendar ends with "85010017" and I see afterwards that 1600 contacs are synconized but about 20 empty contacts are added and the caledar did only sncronize the Birthdays - so nothing, because the birthdays will come from the calendar.
Don't know how to go on..
Best regards,
Waka
Here's my problem, I don't have Vista installed on my desktop, only XP. It is a work PC and I don't see that changing any time soon.
So I am constrained to use MS Active Sync 4.5. It syncs contacts, tasks and calender ok.
Problem is that I rely on Notes on my 7501 heavily at work and can not sync them to my desktop.
Tech support at my job is no help, they just say that my 7501 is not supported. What a bunch of idiots - go back to sleep....
I have heard of Mobsync that will force sync'ing of files to the PC. Has anyone done this with Notes?
And if so, what are the settings and file locations that you used to sync notes to the desktop???
Thanks
Keith Walker
PS I find this super frustrating that I have migrated from an old Sony Clie running Palm OS and syncing of notes was automatic. Now I migrate to WM6 and it won't sync to it's OWN Microcrap desktop OS, WTF????
im running vista, and xp, but can sync my notes on both, with active sync, and mobile device centre, have you tried changing the sync options in active sync and click the notes icon.
Yes I tried that. When I click the notes icon to change the sync options, it tells me that:
"No settings are required for Notes Syncronization. If enabled, the next time you connect your device, all notes on your Device and in Outlook Notes will be syncronized."
So my active sync is enabled for notes sync, but it is not doing that.
The only other thing I can think of is that there is a special location in the 7501 file folders for Notes location. But where should I locate the notes?
Thanks
KWW
johnwalk said:
have you tried changing the sync options in active sync and click the notes icon.
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Store the notes in the documents folder on the Athena, not on the microdrive or miniSD.
thanks! I will try that....
On WM6, I have 'My Documents' and 'Documents and Settings'. My notes are located in 'My Documents' and won't transfer over.
So I take it that you can't have subfolders within the Documents Folder?
Hi,
notes are only synced if they are in root of "My Documents". Subfolders are NOT supported.
If you are using your notes heavily, think of using "OneNote" instead of the standard Outlook notes. OneNote is perfect ...
Best regards,
tsfnet
I've got hundreds of notes in the My Documents root and none of them sync over. Active Sync is of no help either.
I will check out One Note, thanks
KWW
Hi,
can you access your notes through windowsexplorer?
Can you see your notes there?
("<devicename>\My Documents\", you should see Some files named "note1.pwi" or something)
Best regards,
Yes I can, but when I copy the notes to my desktop, the pwi file can not be opened.
Perhaps there is a manual import feature in Desktop Outlook or I could somehow get a viewer or file converter for those pwi files.
Any pointers?
Thanks
Keith
tsfnet said:
Hi,
can you access your notes through windowsexplorer?
Can you see your notes there?
("<devicename>\My Documents\", you should see Some files named "note1.pwi" or something)
Best regards,
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Here's an update, I was able to transfer my notes by syncing all my files to the desktop. Now I have a bunch of *.pwi files that I need to somehow port to my Outlook application. Anyone have an idea how to do that?
Barring that, anyone know of a good pwi file viewer??? Word works, sort of...
Sorry, been off sometime. I just don't get it, cause if you see your notes in this folder, they should be synced to Outlook automatically.
Gonna tell you if i find something new concernig your problem.
Best regards,
I've been having the same problem. It looks like WM6 does not convert files when copying from PDA to PC or synching with Desktop (WM5 is doing that just fine). However I do synchronize with Outlook notes directly and it works. I can read my synchronized notes from within Outlook 2003. Another way to read PDA notes is with MS Office OneNote. You go Tools-Copy from Pocket PC and you get all your notes in OneNote. You can then send a note to Word or Outlook as an e-mail.
Hope this helps.
Let me guess, MS One Note costs money, or is it free??
My source of trouble is that the work environment here runs MS Outlook 2002, which probably doesn't support Notes transfer....
keithwwalker said:
Let me guess, MS One Note costs money, or is it free??
My source of trouble is that the work environment here runs MS Outlook 2002, which probably doesn't support Notes transfer....
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It's part of MS Office 2003 like Excel, Visio, etc. Unfortunately I have no experience with MS Outlook 2002 and PDA collaboration. I presume Outlook 2002 does not yet have Notes as a separate subfunction.
Hi,
Outlook 2002 supports notes, but I remember some issues with syncing them. As far as I'm on Outlook 2007 now and didn't use 2002 for years it's hard to remember.
OneNote is part of 2003 and 2007, but only in Professional Version. As a regurlary user of OneNote I absolutely recommend it. It's way better than standard Outlook Notes.
WM6 Notes to Outlook ActiveSync Fix
I just had the same problem using WM6 and Outlook 2007. Notes created in Outlook on my PC synced to WM6, but notes created under WM6 did not sync to Outlook on my PC.
I determined through testing that ActiveSync assumes that Notes to be synchronized from WM6 to Outlook will be in Main memory. I fixed the problem as follows:
1) Start the "Notes" program under WM6.
2) Click "Menu"
3) Click "Options"
4) Click the down-arrow to the right of the "Save to" text box.
5) Select "Main memory"
6) Click "Ok"
Then, create a new test Note under WM6. Synchronize via ActiveSync and you find the test Note you created under WM6 in Outlook 2007.
Syncing Notes with Outlook Versions prior to Outlook2003 never worked for me.
I had severeal WM Devices but syncing the Notes never worked until i got Outlook2003.
Syncing the files manually is of no use because ActiveSync has no converter for them, so you only get the raw .pwi files on your Desktop.
There are ways to import them manually to Outlook but i haven't found a method to automate this.
This seems to be a General Problem. I found a Microsoft KB Articel concenrning this Problem. Maybe it will be of some use for you.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305544/en
Best thing you can do is upgrading to a newer MS Office Version, neither a New OS nor an other WM Device will solve your Problem.
HTH
Thanks for the link, I have to talk to the IT at people work to see if they can get their collective heads out of their asses and get a new version of MS Office!
Hi guys
I have a problem with synchronizing my mails on my HD2.
I use a live.de-account for collecting all my mails from different providers - so far it works.
But then I wanted to sync those mails on my device. I was a bit suprised that the windows live program always showed up and took over the mail-setup from the inbuild-mailclient in windows mobile to itself.
The first synchronization worked but that was last week -.-.
The windows live program seems connected to the internet and my accountsettings are working (it can show my firstname) but when I want to sync it an error occured "e-mail login failed.please try it later".
I'm not so into this technique but I tried deleting and re-installing/configuring the mail setup. I downloaded the windows live software again (from market place).
I even wrote a support mail to windows but the answers was pretty much the same as in this thread.
As far as I understand the manual it's just synchronizing with outlook on my computer.
But I don't want a) Outlook and b)active-sync (= usb connection to my own computer).
I want a synchronization on the move with wlan or umts but nothing seems to work.
So actually I'm looking for a trick to configure my mail account without windows live software or some help to get it working with the windows live software.
my HD2:
unbranded original
latest official rom-version from htc ( Germany: 3.14.407.2)
Vodafone Germany
windows live software 10.7.0059.0600.1000
Raizm said:
Hi guys
I even wrote a support mail to windows but the answers was pretty much the same as in this thread.
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The thread there is correct. Which method are you really using? Do you set up hotmail as an exchange server as in the thread, or are you using the live client?
Sorry,but I'm not so into this.
Exchange Server?
In HTC Sense is a mail program and I use that.But when I want to configure a new account it automatically redirects my to windows live. I think windows live intercepts the setup and overtakes it because of the @live.de -ending. If i use other providers - everythings working fine without windows live.
Raizm said:
Sorry,but I'm not so into this.
Exchange Server?
In HTC Sense is a mail program and I use that.But when I want to configure a new account it automatically redirects my to windows live. I think windows live intercepts the setup and overtakes it because of the @live.de -ending. If i use other providers - everythings working fine without windows live.
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There are two ways to connect to hotmail (aka live mail). The old method is to use the Live mobile, an application that allows you to access several live features. You get mails when you check mail, like POP3. The new method (I think it was released last year) is to use push mail. Configure it as it you have an exchange server, and set the parameters according to the link. New mails will immediately appear on your mobile. Both method should work. With push mail, you don't need to install the live mobile application and you don't need to explicitly check mail.
Ah.
alright,it's working...
sorry but I don't saw any connection between push mail and exchange server..
Ok,now I could deinstall windows live?
It's not necessary any more,right?
Raizm said:
Ah.
alright,it's working...
sorry but I don't saw any connection between push mail and exchange server..
Ok,now I could deinstall windows live?
It's not necessary any more,right?
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Correct. If you are setting up push mail (it uses Exchange Sync protocol so that's why you configure hotmail as exchange), then you no longer needs the Live client (unless you want other features, such as Messenger).
Hi Raizm and Alex,
OK ! The pushmail settings worked perfect for my with HD2 > Outlook > Hotmail settings. (with link settings) THANKS !! I tested this with a kind of 'Spam hotmail account' NOW i have a problem. I cannot change my spam hotmail adres to my real one. It is greyed-out in the settings ?!!! Also tried new account in windows live messenger but alas, still no change (possible) in my userID field....
Thanks very much in advance !!!
Peter
YESSSS FOUND IT, PFFFF
This is a tricky one. You have to go to the activeync !!! (Default Windows menu >> Extra)
There Menu > Options and then delete "Microsoft Exchange Items" with delete button.
THEN you can create a new Exchange account within outlook.
Thought I let you all know.
Thanks anyway
Hi, I wonder, is there a way to syncronize Outlook Notes on WP7? I can't find it, but maybe I'm blind? IOS does it fine as did Windows Mobile...
Thanks/M
I haven't use outlook notes but I'm pretty sure you will be able to sync it to your live account. Once you done this its accessible on your phone.
Hello. That may be the case. But it's not obvious to me how it's supposed to work, if that's the case....
Rgds/M
Forget Outlook notes, use OneNote instead. It's also synchronizable with WP7
Yes, I'm aware that there are numerous alternative tools to use for notes. However I have a ton of data in Outlook Notes that I have used for a very long time. Works over all my various computers and, up till now, on my mobiles as well. One would have thought Microsoft, if anyone, would ahve had support for it...
/M
There is no native support for these in WP7.
Notes were poorly supported even in Windows Mobile. For example they did not sync wirelessly over ActiveSync.
tai4de2 said:
There is no native support for these in WP7.
Notes were poorly supported even in Windows Mobile. For example they did not sync wirelessly over ActiveSync.
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Yes, this is true. Did synch over Activesync via cable though. And Notes still sit there in Outlook 2010, fairly prominently. Also the iPhone syncronizes them perfectly... Oh well. Thanks anyway for the replys.
Cheers/M
For what I read, direct synch with Outlook is not possible with Lumia 920, I would have to go through the cloud - which I refuse. Is there a go-around available? Please let me know such programs and explain how they work. Thanks for your most appreciated support.
nagging said:
For what I read, direct synch with Outlook is not possible with Lumia 920, I would have to go through the cloud - which I refuse. Is there a go-around available? Please let me know such programs and explain how they work. Thanks for your most appreciated support.
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MS Exchange? Hosted or otherwise...
Sorry, I didn't understand what you meant. Can you please ask a proper question? Thanks.
No, you cannot direct sync with Outlook. You will have to use your network connection to sync Mail/Calendar/Contacts. This will all be done through your Microsoft account (formerly Live account) on-line and over the network.
Didn't I say in my original post that I don't want to go through the cloud? I'm looking for an alternate (offline) possibilty - if there is one, please let me know how it's called and how it works.
nagging said:
Didn't I say in my original post that I don't want to go through the cloud? I'm looking for an alternate (offline) possibilty - if there is one, please let me know how it's called and how it works.
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This is not an easy thing to accomplish. Microsoft is pushing strongly to have you store everything in the cloud. The best solution -- if you're up for it -- is for you to create your own private cloud. You can do this with a "hosted exchange" service; it is still online, but instead of a public service like live.com or google, it's your private calendar/contacts/e-mail.
If you don't want to do that, try this answer from the Nokia forums.
Hi wobblybob,
Welcome to the forum and thanks for posting!
When you are told you can sync a Windows Phone with Outlook that would be correct. What you are really asking is 'can I connect my Lumia to the PC with the USB cable and sync with Outlook offline'. The answer to that would be no.
How you sync with Outlook can be answered in a short and long version. The long and extensive version can be found here. The short version is:
For Outlook 2003 and 2007 install the Outlook Hotmail connector and setup an account for your LiveID, for Outlook 2010 just setup the account and it will prompt you to install the connector. A step by step guide can be found here.
Hope this helps, let us know how you get on!
Kosh
Thanks for all those links. After reading through their lenthy, very interesting and even emotional contents, my conclusion is that there is no way to synching Outlook via USB or even Bluetooth. Akruto Sync (http://www.akruto.com/get-akruto-sync/) which had been mentioned can't synch via USB, too. Are there any other offline synching methods out there? Please let me know.
nagging said:
Didn't I say in my original post that I don't want to go through the cloud? I'm looking for an alternate (offline) possibilty - if there is one, please let me know how it's called and how it works.
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Sorry, I kinda thought my response was pretty clear. As of now, no, there is no way to do this. I know, I asked the product group.
Never understood why people still want to do such an antiquaited thing. Cables?!
Youre email comes via SMTP over the net anyway, so security cannot be it. Can it?
And almost all phones will have a data plan.
Intruiged (or not) to know the reason.
hwangeruk said:
Never understood why people still want to do such an antiquaited thing. Cables?!
Youre email comes via SMTP over the net anyway, so security cannot be it. Can it?
And almost all phones will have a data plan.
Intruiged (or not) to know the reason.
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Well, I would think it is security and privacy . . . same reason I've had to roll my own cloud solution.
Yes, SMTP is fundamentally insecure, but the primary way information in e-mail leaks is not through interception or snooping into SMTP packets, but rather through hacking someone's e-mail account. If I have all my e-mail stored in g-mail and someone gets my password through social engineering, or just by knowing me really well and guessing "m0nk3y" -- they've got all my info. If however I'm keeping it all offline in my local outlook and syncing it to my phone that way, the attack surface is a lot smaller.
And that's just e-mail . . . outlook also manages calendar, and people may not want their calendar items listed in a google or outlook account, but rather kept locally, again for similar reasons.
From what I understood reading between the lines, you guys are talking about different aspects.
Syncing is always done between the client and the mail provider. In that aspect it is useless to try to sync with your Outlook, which is only an application that manages your mails, calendar and contacts.
In my case, my Outlook has accounts for my work mail (through a dedicated MS Exchange server), my private (through a leased MS Exchange in the U.K.) and Google & Hotmail. The syncing is been done directly at the servers for the exchange accounts, which guarantees a perfect sync between my phone, laptops and desktops at home & office. No clouds involved here, so this is the perfect solution. Downside of having a leased MS Exchange server: the price tag!
Google, Yahoo and Hotmail accounts all go through the Cloud.
If you really want to have a grip on your data, I can only suggest to buy a NAS (i.e. Synology with Mail Server add-on), rent your own domain name, and set up your own mail server. A bit tricky, but worthwhile in the long running
reg's
Jo
Bringing an old issue back on top
I'm bringing this topic on top again by asking if there has been found a solution in the meantime. What I want to do: Synchronize Outlook and files via a USB cable (or via Bluethooth), therefore NOT going through the cloud. How about if an xda-developper would create an appropriate software (something like Mobile Device Center 6.1 that worked perfectly under Windows Mobile 6.5)?
nagging said:
I'm bringing this topic on top again by asking if there has been found a solution in the meantime. What I want to do: Synchronize Outlook and files via a USB cable (or via Bluethooth), therefore NOT going through the cloud. How about if an xda-developper would create an appropriate software (something like Mobile Device Center 6.1 that worked perfectly under Windows Mobile 6.5)?
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Nope. Not possible with email. The phone is a first class device now, as that's where the market took the functionality. People don't want to have to sync. Sync bad.
For files, there is no file explorer on Windows Phone. You can copy media to/from the device via USB, but not "files".
Only the contacts can be imported directly to the phone via Bluetoth without any sync with outlook or cloud. For the rest is not possible. For contacts I did this: I saved the phonebook from my old phone, copied to Nokia 6303c and after that I copied it to NL920 via Bluetooth.
All my 1051 contacts was in the phone without problems!
Some of you are plain wrong.
check out HTC's website. The HTC 8X can usb-sync with outlook through HTC sync software.
The Lumias with 7.5 and older can, too, with Nokia Suite.
but the Nokia win phone 8s can't (yet)
fuzzifikation said:
Some of you are plain wrong.
check out HTC's website. The HTC 8X can usb-sync with outlook through HTC sync software.
The Lumias with 7.5 and older can, too, with Nokia Suite.
but the Nokia win phone 8s can't (yet)
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thaks for this answer.
Contact sync in the cloud seems enough tricky, as you loose your contacts pictures (I read). personally I just tried to put my contacts on my microsoft account unsuccessfully, having the error "too many contacts" I tried to sync half of them (about 450) and I never succeeded. tricky is tricky.
Till this kind of stuff is not resolved, I'll never get a Windows 8 phone.
With Android, it is also tricky as Google creates contacts on every email you send, and even if you disable this, groups are tricky in google accounts. for example I exported my Outlook contacts to my Gmail account. I lost the contact pictures and for every contact included in more than one group (for ex : friend music medical ) Google creates a new group called "friend,music,medical" , so if I search in friend group, I won't find that guy who is musician friend and doctor. Google is smart, no?
the good solution for me, as I have an Android phone, was to use MyPhoneExplorer that syncs perfectly (I mean all elements) Outlook and phone contacts. this can be done by cable or by WiFi been on the same network with a password.
A program called Akruto sync is the closest solution to this problem. It does not work over USB, but it will work over your local wi-fi connection. Assuming you use WPA2/AES with a strong password, there is little chance of your data being intercepted while you are synchronizing. It basically simulates Exchange ActiveSync on your PC, allowing you to use any mobile device that supports an Exchange account to synchronize with your local desktop installation of Microsoft Outlook. I've been using it for a couple of months now and it works flawlessly. They plan to implement synchronizing of notes in a future release. It is a 100% cloudless sync. As for privacy of cloud-based e-mail, there's always encryption.
The average user doesn't understand the true risks of using the public cloud. Those of us who do take the necessary precautions to protect ourselves. The unfortunate fact is that the other mobile devices on the market have similar native or third party cloudless synchronization options available, and better overall integration with Microsoft Exchange/Outlook. As an example, Windows Phone 8 does not utilitze the categories from Microsoft Outlook, though it synchronizes them in the objects through EAS. As a result, there are a myriad of users who choose a non-Microsoft device simply because it works better with Microsoft products. . Ironic and saddening that Microsoft doesn't seem to recognize this. It's likely the primary reason why all post-WM6.5 devices have trailed behind the competition. It is hurting their reputation and ultimtately results in lost revenue.