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I have a second HTC Hero which runs Android 1.5. The phone says there is 980KB memory left. However, when I go to Task Manager to kill apps to help with the memory, it says there is 91MB left. I cannot use the phone much and cannot open up messages to read or send texts.
How can I check what is causing the memory problem on the phone itself? I assume what is on the SD card does not affect the internal memory?
Everytime i used a taskkiller on 1.5 i ended up with a phone that would crap out on memory. Could uninstall everything and it still would say not enough memory. Did a factory reset en left the taskkiller out.. no more problems. Some how 1.5 seems not able to let the used memory go when killed by a taskkiller... meaning memory runs out that was my problem at least..
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How can you kill apps without a Task Killer though?
You don't have to. Android does this fine by itself
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Two questions:
1 What method and how does Android kill tasks without a task manager?
2 Are there any bits and pieces I can remove from the Android operating system but then reinstall them if necessary - things that are stored on the phone?
Memory as in RAM or memory as in phone storage memory?
Those are different things.
Task killers clear up RAM, phone memory is cleared by uninstalling applications.
If it indeed is RAM you are talking about, I don't know why it would do that.
The internal taskkiller has a minimum, and it is above 980kb.
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Hello,
Just want to ask what's your remaining free memory after a reboot. And then, after running your favorite app killer. Mine's 27MB after a fresh restart and then after killing unused task it goes up to 70. I use autokiller to kill tasks (which is funny because i have to manually kill apps, not automatically)
Also, what's your setting for AutoKiller?
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I too have the problem,any fix ?
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RAM neq Internal Memory
My RAM is about 12 % full after reboot and then fills up as I use the phone. This is all right. Killing (force shutdown) tasks, also automatically with "task killers", in order to free RAM is generally not useful in any way. Only misbehaving tasks should be killed (you don't need a task killer for this).
The Internal Memory is a kind of internal SD card, where the files needed by the actual Android operating system among others reside. If this internal memory becomes too full, the phone becomes slow and can even stop functioning. Normally there is a warning before it gets too full. I have 36.2 MB free internal memory, at about 25 MB there is a warning for low memory. To free internal memory you can uninstall applications, clean the caches of particularly the browser, youtube player, market etc. With a rooted phone there are a few more possibilities.
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I have searched on numerous fronts but have never found the solution to my problem. The issue is, on the vibrant I have 2 GB internal memory for app installation, with 512 mb ram (I think) to run the apps, in addition to 16 GB of internal storage for files and what not.
However, having 1.4 GB 'app' memory free currently, whenever I install any further apps, some of the existing apps start to crash/restart whenever I need to use them. For example, I use LPP, and when I install some more apps on the phone, LPP homescreen icons disappear whatever action I do (open an app, use an app, etc), and then they reload for about 15-20 seconds when I go to the homescreen again. I have about 35-55 MB RAM free at any given time.
My question is, why give 2 GB app installation memory when you still cannot use it to install apps since they start giving you all sort of problems? I am running stock t-mobile eclair and have recently rooted my phone.
you know what, i think all you need is a task killer or clean your phone or something.. just find a way to free up some space.. 35-55MB is hella low.
Hmm, whats the normal free ram for stock 2.1 vibrant supposed to be? I have not tinkered around with my phone much so am wondering how it could have gotten low to that extent. All the apps that I use are also well known and from reputable developers...
Got any clues?
dunno when i was running 2.1 i was always at 80-120 free range with apps running..
try getting a task killer and kill all running apps..
also check settings > applications > running services > tap and kill processes you dont need running
This still does not answer my question about why there is 2 GB of app memory available...? regardless of RAM..?
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This still does not answer my question about why there is 2 GB of app memory available...? regardless of RAM..?
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Incase people want 2 gigs worth of apps? and if i remember right you have 16gigs storage and then 2gigs of that is partitioned for apps
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Incase people want 2 gigs worth of apps? and if i remember right you have 16gigs storage and then 2gigs of that is partitioned for apps
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Yeah, but then what about what I wrote in my first post? It does not make sense if you can 'theoretically' install 2 GB worth of apps but renders the phone useless in function?
Anyone who is actually using close to 2 GB worth of memory for apps on vibrant/Galaxy S?? Would love to hear what you have to say.
My X10s internal storage memory is getting low, like 75MB, what do I do to remedy this, and what's causing it.
it's normal.. Android fills the memory - upto a preset threshold.. so when the "user" calls for a frequently used app, it's likely to already be in memory, allowing it to launch it more quickly..
If you're having problems with the phone getting slow, then suggest something like Task Manager to kill apps that you don't need to be held in memory - BUT only use it to kill apps that don't automatically restart, otherwise you'll only end up fighting with your phone, and using more battery!
No , I mean the internal storage memory, not the RAM, it's getting low. And I'm not sure why.
Ah.. I see.. well the obvious answer is that you've got a lot of apps on there.. ?
If it's not that, then could be a crappy app that's storing stuff on the phone, rather than the SD card...
Try clearing the caches of EVERY APP and UTILITY. I do it every night before I go to bed.
Task manager shows 806 mb of used memory and only 211 mb free. Have a brand new flyer and installed a few apps. Any idea how to free up more internal memory?
If you're comfortable with it, going to a custom ROM will almost always improve memory usage and system speed. I recommend leedroid.
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Task manager shows 806 mb of used memory and only 211 mb free. Have a brand new flyer and installed a few apps. Any idea how to free up more internal memory?
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That is a very reasonable usage of RAM memory, its not application storage.
Linux and Android attempt to maximize memory usage while keeping a certain amount free for program loading and switching. It's normal for Android to keep RAM about 75% full and intentional. That way when one of your app bits needs to run, its already in fast memory and does not need to be loaded. So you can kill apps all you want and android will just happily keep reloading them in the background and refilling that memory. That's why task killers generally ware not needed and can often slow things down by unnecessarily killing tasks that the OS will just start up again.
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I noticed a trend: whenever my internal memory is about half full, the phone starts lagging terribly. When I clean the memory (usually by deleting some blobs of misc files in the 0 directory), the phone is amazingly fast. Can anyone tell me why that is? Are we not supposed to use this internal space? Or is the problem in the type of files I am deleting, are they slowing the system down? I'm guessing this might be a general Android issue.
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Hi!
I noticed a trend: whenever my internal memory is about half full, the phone starts lagging terribly. When I clean the memory (usually by deleting some blobs of misc files in the 0 directory), the phone is amazingly fast. Can anyone tell me why that is? Are we not supposed to use this internal space? Or is the problem in the type of files I am deleting, are they slowing the system down? I'm guessing this might be a general Android issue.
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of course yes. no apps installed=faster phone. once you start installing and using apps, the ram is used.. you already know that. once the ram is used, it depends on how much free ram is left. more free ram=faster phone. if you would like to: root and install greenify. that would help a bit.
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of course yes. no apps installed=faster phone. once you start installing and using apps, the ram is used.. you already know that. once the ram is used, it depends on how much free ram is left. more free ram=faster phone. if you would like to: root and install greenify. that would help a bit.
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The problem is that I am not installing/uninstalling apps. And I mean the internal ROM space, in my case, 16 Gb, not the RAM. As for greenify, the opinions on that piece of software are divided, some are comparing it to the useless task killers. And anyway, I tried it and it did nothing for me.
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The problem is that I am not installing/uninstalling apps. And I mean the internal ROM space, in my case, 16 Gb, not the RAM. As for greenify, the opinions on that piece of software are divided, some are comparing it to the useless task killers. And anyway, I tried it and it did nothing for me.
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all are related. the more internal space the apps occupy, the more ram is used and hence it starts lagging.
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The problem is that I am not installing/uninstalling apps. And I mean the internal ROM space, in my case, 16 Gb, not the RAM. As for greenify, the opinions on that piece of software are divided, some are comparing it to the useless task killers. And anyway, I tried it and it did nothing for me.
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Read the greenify thread you will know it is not 'some useless task killer'
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all are related. the more internal space the apps occupy, the more ram is used and hence it starts lagging.
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The "Internal phone storage" refers to the portion of on-board flash space set aside for APK files, databases, preferences, and other local files.
RAM has nothing to do with internal storage.Running programs (OS and end-user apps) consume RAM, but only while they are running. And RAM gets wiped on a reboot or while using task managers.
Only apps/system processes running in background takes up RAM. More apps doesnt automatically mean more RAM wasted.
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The "Internal phone storage" refers to the portion of on-board flash space set aside for APK files, databases, preferences, and other local files.
RAM has nothing to do with internal storage.Running programs (OS and end-user apps) consume RAM, but only while they are running. And RAM gets wiped on a reboot or while using task managers.
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that is good description. also please solve his problem if you can.
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After you install an App and start using them, small secondary data files are created automatically. These files are stored inside the device and act as a cache for future use for the apps. Even though these cache files are very small in size initially, they pick up size over a period of time. Cache memory is supposed to speed up app and Android device performance. But too much of cache will have opposite effect. Your device performance will slow down considerably and also you lose lot of internal memory.
But this still doesnt explain how deleting certain files on 0 folder improve the speed ! if you could explain which files you deleted that might help in finding the cause.
Does he mean the 0 folder that 4.2 installation creates?
Only way I can see clearing space on the internal sd card would help is if you have a lot of bad blocks, which the emmc chip is tripping over on each write.
I've never used the internal sd to store anything, never had a freeze or stutter either. The two might not be linked but given the awful memory design of these phones I'm trying to avoid the problem occurring.