My X10s internal storage memory is getting low, like 75MB, what do I do to remedy this, and what's causing it.
it's normal.. Android fills the memory - upto a preset threshold.. so when the "user" calls for a frequently used app, it's likely to already be in memory, allowing it to launch it more quickly..
If you're having problems with the phone getting slow, then suggest something like Task Manager to kill apps that you don't need to be held in memory - BUT only use it to kill apps that don't automatically restart, otherwise you'll only end up fighting with your phone, and using more battery!
No , I mean the internal storage memory, not the RAM, it's getting low. And I'm not sure why.
Ah.. I see.. well the obvious answer is that you've got a lot of apps on there.. ?
If it's not that, then could be a crappy app that's storing stuff on the phone, rather than the SD card...
Try clearing the caches of EVERY APP and UTILITY. I do it every night before I go to bed.
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Alright, so Ive been saving things to my storage card and what not; But my Hd2 is telling me my devices main memory is running low on space.
Wtf?
I dont save things to the main memory, Im saving it to the Storage Card, 16 Gb. I cant even get the full potential of my Storage Card because my Hd2, keeps warning me that my memory is low. I have loads of space still on my storage card, but my main device has 3 Mb left.
This is very aggitating.
Can someone check this out, cause Im completly lost.
Lack of memory
Sorry, I can't help as the same thing is frustrating me also.
Only way i found was to limit the amount of applications on the phone.
Even if you install to your SD card, your phone memory goes up also.
Grrrrrrr
opera cache, windows temp, youtube cache, photo album cache, install temp folder,,,, and more, they're all in main memory and fill up.
search on clearing temp folders.
windows/opera9/profiles/cache
windows/temp
application data/volatile
windows/profiles/guest/(3 sub folders)
temp/
just to get you started.
oh and some good reading here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623361
try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=750492
Hi
I have a second HTC Hero which runs Android 1.5. The phone says there is 980KB memory left. However, when I go to Task Manager to kill apps to help with the memory, it says there is 91MB left. I cannot use the phone much and cannot open up messages to read or send texts.
How can I check what is causing the memory problem on the phone itself? I assume what is on the SD card does not affect the internal memory?
Everytime i used a taskkiller on 1.5 i ended up with a phone that would crap out on memory. Could uninstall everything and it still would say not enough memory. Did a factory reset en left the taskkiller out.. no more problems. Some how 1.5 seems not able to let the used memory go when killed by a taskkiller... meaning memory runs out that was my problem at least..
hth
How can you kill apps without a Task Killer though?
You don't have to. Android does this fine by itself
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Two questions:
1 What method and how does Android kill tasks without a task manager?
2 Are there any bits and pieces I can remove from the Android operating system but then reinstall them if necessary - things that are stored on the phone?
Memory as in RAM or memory as in phone storage memory?
Those are different things.
Task killers clear up RAM, phone memory is cleared by uninstalling applications.
If it indeed is RAM you are talking about, I don't know why it would do that.
The internal taskkiller has a minimum, and it is above 980kb.
I recently started getting a low space warning that I can't get rid of, despite having moved all possible (i.e. non-system, non-widget) apps to SD via built in app2sd. I know the right solution is s2e, I just didn't want to format my card because it took me forever to get all my music copied onto it in the first place. Well SD cards are cheap, I ordered a bigger one, and I'll format it for s2e and all will be well again.
But in the meantime, I noticed that I stopped getting "green" connection status, and was no longer receiving GMail or Talk notifications. After a restart, I got a good connection again, until the low space warning reappeared, at which point the connection went white again.
So what's up with that? Is it by design that when low on space, the phone won't connect to Google anymore? If so that seems pretty silly, considering there's still 20 mb available.
You've basically answered your own question, but yes, Android is notoriously bad at handling low memory situations. You simply must maintain a certain amount of free space or things will inexplicably stop working correctly. My recommendation to you is to delete an app or two that you rarely use to free up some space until you get the new SD card set up.
After googling and searching alot, i didnt find my answer
so hope someone can help me here, and this will help others too.
so install apps on SD Card or Internal memory ?
The internal phone memory is generally of a lesser amount than the amount of the memory you'd have on a SD card. You cannot really change the amount of internal memory you have on your phone but you can always get a new SD card with a larger storage capacity.
So when you have apps that need a lot of space it is better to have them installed on the SD card.
will installing more apps on internal memory make the phone run slower ???
I don't think it will make the phone run slower, but you'll have lesser storage space for your other data which is stored in the internal storage like your contacts etc.
i have an HTC Sensation XE running on Darkforest ROM, this is my RAM (pic) how can i increase the free memory, thats the max i get around 180MB free
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Can I know why you wish to free up the RAM? In most cases you really don't need to because the OS manages that quite efficiently. It will free up the RAM and make room for the running applications whenever it needs to.
cuz in some apps after opening them for a while and try to close this app the phone restarts, so i read that its cuz of low RAM
please correct me if am mistaken
180 mb is a lot of RAM for a single application to use. And as I said, the OS, is pretty good at managing it. Although I cannot exactly tell you why your phone might be restarting when you close some apps, I don't really think it would be cause of the low RAM.
I checked my phone and it had about the same amount of RAM occupied as yours(i.e. 2 thirds of the total capacity). Then i started a game called Fruit Ninja which uses 3d graphics, which should need a lot of RAM. Then i pressed home and checked the RAM usage again. Even then the RAM usage did not go up by much.
You should try to verify this on your phone too. Check the amount of RAM thats being used. Then start the application thats causing the problem. Press the home button and check the RAM usage again.
An app will probably run quicker from internal mem because flash storage is much slower, but youre'e limited by space constraints.
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Well it might load into the RAM quicker. But I don't really think there is much of a difference in speed while its running. Unless there are a lot of loading and writing operations.
Pay attention to one thing: internal storage and ram are not the same thing.
Ram is commonly allocated on a high speed journaled partition and it is 1000 times or more faster than both the internal emmc or the external SD (that'd why a swap partition is not as fast as real ram).
Just for the I/O parallelism, an app installed on the external sd could very likely run faster than one that resides in the internal emmc. Anyway, it also depends on the class of the external sd, though the class counts only when writing sequential data, while reading could even be faster when using a lower class SD.
lucaoldb said:
Pay attention to one thing: internal storage and ram are not the same thing.
Ram is commonly allocated on a high speed journaled partition and it is 1000 times or more faster than both the internal emmc or the external SD (that'd why a swap partition is not as fast as real ram).
Just for the I/O parallelism, an app installed on the external sd could very likely run faster than one that resides in the internal emmc. Anyway, it also depends on the class of the external sd, though the class counts only when writing sequential data, while reading could even be faster when using a lower class SD.
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Doesn't an application get loaded into the RAM first when its started? So would its execution speed still depend on the sd/internal memory?
I thought that would come into the picture only when theres some kind of read/write thats happening to the sd/internal memory...
Well, if it is true that any app run inside the dalvik vm and such vm is able to run simultaneously multiple apps in its sandbox, I suppose that any app could need to access its installation files and its stored data while running.... I am not sure, anyway, it is just what I believe it could be.
To be true, my supposition mostly derives from what I've experienced with chrooted linux, which run faster when the .img file is stored on the external sd.
Anyway, if it should be as you say, the app's speed would be totally independent from the support where it was installed.
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Well, if it is true that any app run inside the dalvik vm and such vm is able to run simultaneously multiple apps in its sandbox, I suppose that any app could need to access its installation files and its stored data while running.... I am not sure, anyway, it is just what I believe it could be.
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That is what I exactly meant. Although it differs from case to case, an application typically loads all the stored data it needs at the start. And then throughout the execution of this application, loading/saving of data is generally rare.
Of course this is a very generalized statement and such things are handled differently by different applications depending on how they were implemented and what they are intended to do.
Consider for example a game. The game would load all the textures, images, music it would need for a particular level. Then throughout the entire period of the level the game wouldn't need to load any data. It is only when some different support data would be needed by the game, or if the player's state is to be saved there would be a read/write operation. At such a time only would there be a need to access the sd/internal memory. So it really doesn't make the difference of where the game is installed very noticable.
Now on the other hand if you have an application say an Image viewer application which loads an image from the the sd/internal memory every time the "next" button is pressed. Then, maybe you'd have a noticable difference based on where the image is being loaded from. But even typical image viewers implement some sort of image caching to reduce such excessive loading.
Widgets
I had a problem where apps that used a widget option did, not give that feature anymore when the app is moved to the SD card...
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I noticed a trend: whenever my internal memory is about half full, the phone starts lagging terribly. When I clean the memory (usually by deleting some blobs of misc files in the 0 directory), the phone is amazingly fast. Can anyone tell me why that is? Are we not supposed to use this internal space? Or is the problem in the type of files I am deleting, are they slowing the system down? I'm guessing this might be a general Android issue.
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I noticed a trend: whenever my internal memory is about half full, the phone starts lagging terribly. When I clean the memory (usually by deleting some blobs of misc files in the 0 directory), the phone is amazingly fast. Can anyone tell me why that is? Are we not supposed to use this internal space? Or is the problem in the type of files I am deleting, are they slowing the system down? I'm guessing this might be a general Android issue.
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of course yes. no apps installed=faster phone. once you start installing and using apps, the ram is used.. you already know that. once the ram is used, it depends on how much free ram is left. more free ram=faster phone. if you would like to: root and install greenify. that would help a bit.
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sriram231092 said:
of course yes. no apps installed=faster phone. once you start installing and using apps, the ram is used.. you already know that. once the ram is used, it depends on how much free ram is left. more free ram=faster phone. if you would like to: root and install greenify. that would help a bit.
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The problem is that I am not installing/uninstalling apps. And I mean the internal ROM space, in my case, 16 Gb, not the RAM. As for greenify, the opinions on that piece of software are divided, some are comparing it to the useless task killers. And anyway, I tried it and it did nothing for me.
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The problem is that I am not installing/uninstalling apps. And I mean the internal ROM space, in my case, 16 Gb, not the RAM. As for greenify, the opinions on that piece of software are divided, some are comparing it to the useless task killers. And anyway, I tried it and it did nothing for me.
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all are related. the more internal space the apps occupy, the more ram is used and hence it starts lagging.
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The problem is that I am not installing/uninstalling apps. And I mean the internal ROM space, in my case, 16 Gb, not the RAM. As for greenify, the opinions on that piece of software are divided, some are comparing it to the useless task killers. And anyway, I tried it and it did nothing for me.
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Read the greenify thread you will know it is not 'some useless task killer'
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all are related. the more internal space the apps occupy, the more ram is used and hence it starts lagging.
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The "Internal phone storage" refers to the portion of on-board flash space set aside for APK files, databases, preferences, and other local files.
RAM has nothing to do with internal storage.Running programs (OS and end-user apps) consume RAM, but only while they are running. And RAM gets wiped on a reboot or while using task managers.
Only apps/system processes running in background takes up RAM. More apps doesnt automatically mean more RAM wasted.
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The "Internal phone storage" refers to the portion of on-board flash space set aside for APK files, databases, preferences, and other local files.
RAM has nothing to do with internal storage.Running programs (OS and end-user apps) consume RAM, but only while they are running. And RAM gets wiped on a reboot or while using task managers.
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that is good description. also please solve his problem if you can.
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After you install an App and start using them, small secondary data files are created automatically. These files are stored inside the device and act as a cache for future use for the apps. Even though these cache files are very small in size initially, they pick up size over a period of time. Cache memory is supposed to speed up app and Android device performance. But too much of cache will have opposite effect. Your device performance will slow down considerably and also you lose lot of internal memory.
But this still doesnt explain how deleting certain files on 0 folder improve the speed ! if you could explain which files you deleted that might help in finding the cause.
Does he mean the 0 folder that 4.2 installation creates?
Only way I can see clearing space on the internal sd card would help is if you have a lot of bad blocks, which the emmc chip is tripping over on each write.
I've never used the internal sd to store anything, never had a freeze or stutter either. The two might not be linked but given the awful memory design of these phones I'm trying to avoid the problem occurring.