I've never been so satisfied with an app for getting RW access. Root Explorer didn't work, SU File Manager wasn't working for me.. ADB was driving me up the wall.
I found Super Manager in the market and it has made changing /system/ files like the build.prop a piece of cake. Removing .apk's couldn't be any easier with this app either. It also has app backup/restore, APK Manager, a docking panel that includes a host of information in your notifications panel (it can be turned off), an app locker/protector, etc etc. - there is a bunch of useful stuff here.
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Just recommending this one because I see soo many recommending Root Explorer and I think this is far better.
Man the settings menu scrolls for days when you look at all the options.
Wow that's a pretty cool app. I think the task tray in the notifications drop down is kinda cool.
Yeah but it gets in the way for me. Lots to play with here and I hope people take note and stop giving their money away for that mediocre "root" explorer which never has worked for me.
Glad there are more options, but you really discredit yourself by saying bad things about Root Explorer... The fact YOU had issues with it does not take away from the fact that it has been one of the best at what it does for a very long time. Besides that obvious point,i really have no clue how you could not figure it out....
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Glad there are more options, but you really discredit yourself by saying bad things about Root Explorer... The fact YOU had issues with it does not take away from the fact that it has been one of the best at what it does for a very long time. Besides that obvious point,i really have no clue how you could not figure it out....
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Isn't that the whole point here? The app is as you said, stale and could use an update to the UI not to mention I'm not the only one that had problems with it obtaining root access. This is free and works better. What is your problem?
I have to agree with s15274n, Root Explorer works like a charm on my Vibrant, even after 10 different flashes I have done.
Lol all I have to say is why spend money in root explorer if you don't need to besides there are some like me who can't get root explorer because there is no option to bill tmobile only papal......
I think its funny trying to defend root explorer, which epically fails because it cost money and that alone is a no I will not download and I silk find a substitute that us free ie this
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Isn't that the whole point here? The app is as you said, stale and could use an update to the UI not to mention I'm not the only one that had problems with it obtaining root access. This is free and works better. What is your problem?
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Application Functionality > UI looking fancy. I rather have a app that works PERFECTLY fine for me then making it look all pretty (boo hooo.. it doesn't work for you, that doesn't mean its better, for you its better.. for others it isnt) and there are ways in fixing it by reflashing a ROM.
This thread is fully opinionated.
Lol all I have to say is why spend money in root explorer if you don't need to besides there are some like me who can't get root explorer because there is no option to bill tmobile only papal......
I think its funny trying to defend root explorer, which epically fails because it cost money and that alone is a no I will not download and I silk find a substitute that us free ie this
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@Colby: If everybody had your egotistic view on paid applications, then the Android market would be placed in a really awful position. The developers that create these applications DESERVE credit for their work. If they built a app and its used heavily, then I wouldn't mind giving them money. The app is only $3 anyway. And what are you talking about? the Android Market accepts payment methods OTHER than paypal. Are you like 15 year old and dont have access to a bank account or credit card or something, no offense but it really sounds that way if you can't support a developer by giving them $3 for lifetime updates.
You can make purchases through Google Checkout using a credit, debit, or gift card with the following logos:
* American Express*
* Discover*
* MasterCard
* Solo**
* Visa
* Visa Electron**
Additionally, T-Mobile customers in the U.S. can purchase applications from the Android Market using direct carrier billing.
http://market.android.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=105916
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This thread is fully opinionated.
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You can't bill to you account for items in a different currency and, duh!
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You can't bill to you account for items in a different currency and, duh!
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... and? my point stands with him saying that it was only "papal" (he couldn't even spell Paypal correctly. Credit card/debit cards are not hard to obtain unless you're under 18. The reason why I don't like Super Manager is because it comes with all these other features that are un-necessary. I find Root Explorer to be the best due to it's simplicity UI. It's very simple and works very well.
And what you quoted is irrelevant to your post. Just sayin'
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And what you quoted is irrelevant to your post. Just sayin'
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Everything in this thread is relevant to my posts. This is my thread, offtopic or not
heygrl said:
I've never been so satisfied with an app for getting RW access. Root Explorer didn't work, SU File Manager wasn't working for me.. ADB was driving me up the wall.
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I'm glad Super Manager pleases you. Perhaps you could help me better understand it. As their web page states: "We don't have an English webpage."
Unless I'm missing something, much of Super Manager's functionality is limited to the $8.00 pro version. For example, with Root Explorer, I have immediate access to the files and folders on my Vibrant. With Super Manager, pressing "File Explorer" takes me to an essentially blank screen. At the top, it reads: "Backup level folder." But pressing has no visible result. At the bottom is a scrollable menu list, but, at least with my free version, none of them does anything.
In all events, unless you can point to specific defects in Root Explorer, it shouldn't be necessary to put it down in order to praise something else.
I too like it as well it does work very well!!
Hmm i preffer root explorer, how is this app easy and functional? Bunch of icons with no labels. And an annoying pop up telling me to buy the pro version. No thanks
Holy Crap... just looked over all the permissions this app requests.
I'll stick with Root Explorer that just asks to access the SD card. Jesus.
s15274n said:
Holy Crap... just looked over all the permissions this app requests.
I'll stick with Root Explorer that just asks to access the SD card. Jesus.
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^ It adds too much nonsense that I would never use + I also immediately uninstalled when i saw the developer added a task manager no point.
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... and? my point stands with him saying that it was only "papal" (he couldn't even spell Paypal correctly. Credit card/debit cards are not hard to obtain unless you're under 18. The reason why I don't like Super Manager is because it comes with all these other features that are un-necessary. I find Root Explorer to be the best due to it's simplicity UI. It's very simple and works very well.
And what you quoted is irrelevant to your post. Just sayin'
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ok first off i have paid for many apps.
Second, i am 23 and i still think the bank can screw themselves. I like cold hard cash period credit cards screw people over and debit cards are ok, but i still like cash. So when i buy an app its billed to my accout and if there is no way to do that then im not going to buy the app.
Third, the apps that i do buy, i buy because there is not an application that does the same functions for free.
its very simple, and thats why would not buy an application that cost money when there are applications that do the exact same thing for free. (best example is terminal emulator/ why pay 99 cents for it when there is one that is free and does the same thing. In this case the app is free does the same thing as root explorer and even has more functions.
last but not least if you are going to note that i didnt spell paypal correctly perhaps you should have considered i was on the xda app on my phone and that was swype's fault
very simple idea and makes sense other wise your just wasting money.
i am not trying to be an ahole lol im just stating my opinion on the matter.
oh and if it adds all that extra crap u dont want then why dont you just delete all the extra crap so that the only thing the app can do is root explorer. i see where you are coming from zep and it is nice for its simplicity but still will cost me $3... 3 dollars or a free app that does the same thing thats not as simplified... thats just my take
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Third, the apps that i do buy, i buy because there is not an application that does the same functions for free.
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That doesn't even make any sense, its only $3. So I'm guessing that your logic would apply to: "Oh.. why buy Windows? I can just download Linux and it does the same things and its free." Like I said before, if everybody had the same ideology as you, the market would be in a bad area. The developers deserve money for their work. If $3 is too much to ask for then I don't really know what to say to you. The developers do this for the community and I wouldn't mind giving them money for their hard work.[/quote]
The app, "Terminal Emulator " that I've been using since my G1 is FREE. Where the hell did you find that it costs money? If you're referring to "Better Terminal Emulator" or the ones that cost money. The reason is simple, it costs money and there are the pro and cons to it. Pro: the developer is more dedicated to his/her application and may provide more updates than a free version.
last but not least if you are going to note that i didnt spell paypal correctly perhaps you should have considered i was on the xda app on my phone and that was swype's fault
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Uh sir. You SPELLED Paypal wrong. Don't blame anyone but yourself because you could of proofread what Swype inputted for you. So yes, you did spell it wrong.
And no.. I am not wasting my money, ever heard of the economical term "paradox thrift?" It states that too much savings causes less savings. It's a mixed economy, you spend money.. it goes in a consumer cycle back to the developer.. the developer spends that money and it circulates. If too many people "save," then the cycle is disrupted and people begin getting laid off because there isn't a demand for it (in this case.. it'd be not getting any profit).
If nobody paid for applications, then there wouldn't be a business for it such as the gaming industry on mobile phones. Especially with the rise of games coming out for Android. In order to develop these apps, they need money. And if they're not getting money then they won't have the resources to give back to the community. It's $3 for lifetime updates, is that too much to ask for?
How exactly am i wasting my money if im being nice for GIVING back to the developer. They gave you features in a app that you rely upon on a daily basis. Is it too much to ask to give them $3 to feed their family? child? Hmmm?
And no.. I don't think your an "ahole" at all but your mind is in the wrong mindset and its bad for the Android community. Just like donations, it's free but developers such as Eugene has a family. I'm sure he has a job as well and especially with him raising a child. Would it be too much to send some cash to him? No. even though they don't initially charge you a fee to download their ROM. It's the same thing as popular apps such as ASTRO (lite... ad supported) then a Pro version that removes the ad.
And you can't SIMPLY remove the features that you don't want from a app and take what you want. That's not how it works, im assuming that you can't see yourself from a developer's perspective. I'm not a developer but I have a huge insight on what goes on.
If the developers made something worthwhile they would be charging for it. I would pay good money for something that wasn't a hacked up version of Samsung's work.
Root Explorer should be free or it should be $1. It's not worth $3. I can't even use my discover card to make the purchase. Further if you don't like something don't use it and don't post in this thread! Words from your savior eugene.
heygrl said:
If the developers made something worthwhile they would be charging for it. I would pay good money for something that wasn't a hacked up version of Samsung's work.
Root Explorer should be free or it should be $1. It's not worth $3. I can't even use my discover card to make the purchase. Further if you don't like something don't use it and don't post in this thread! Words from your savior eugene.
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Never said he was my savior. Was just giving a example, and I don't care.. I have my own two cents, if you don't like it then DONT READ IT. Freedom of Speech EHHHH. And Root Explorer has NEVER caused any problems for me, you're just upset because it isn't working for you for whatever reason that you never even explained. The developer is also European, and its 2.50 EUR. Blame the U.S. dollar. It doesn't even matter what you think on how much the app is worth, if the developer sets it at a price and people are willing to pay for it then why should he lower it?
I never seen anyone complain so much about paying <$4.99 for a app.
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I went from a G1 to a MT3G to an N1 to this perfectly sized vibrant with its smooth processor and beautiful display and I can honestly say I'm furious enough with all of its bloatware that for the first time I may take an android phone back solely because of the crapware (although the lack of a flash and trackball/pad are unforgiveable as well). Anyway:
Memo
Diary
Office (can't edit docs of course)
Gogo
mobitv
Avatar(its an f-ing app!!!)
Telenav (less than pointless and if you don't pay $10 a month for something you already have free from google you have yet another dead icon in your app drawer)
write and go (another note app?)
Swype tips (just shoot me)
Slacker
Layar
Audio postcard (I almost slammed my phone onto the pavement)
Daily briefing
I don't even think that covers it. I have two questions: if my previous 3 androids including the very awesome nexus one didn't come filled with the scum of the app market how theo **** did this happen to this phone? And more importantly what can I do about it without rooting? Thanks, I realize I'm probably late to the party on this deeply offensive issue but I'm here now and, frankly, I'd love to stay if I could turn this monstrosity back into an acceptable mobile device. Thanks again for any help
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I went from a G1 to a MT3G to an N1 to this perfectly sized vibrant with its smooth processor and beautiful display and I can honestly say I'm furious enough with all of its bloatware that for the first time I may take an android phone back solely because of the crapware (although the lack of a flash and trackball/pad are unforgiveable as well). Anyway:
Memo
Diary
Office (can't edit docs of course)
Gogo
mobitv
Avatar(its an f-ing app!!!)
Telenav (less than pointless and if you don't pay $10 a month for something you already have free from google you have yet another dead icon in your app drawer)
write and go (another note app?)
Swype tips (just shoot me)
Slacker
Layar
Audio postcard (I almost slammed my phone onto the pavement)
Daily briefing
I don't even think that covers it. I have two questions: if my previous 3 androids including the very awesome nexus one didn't come filled with the scum of the app market how theo **** did this happen to this phone? And more importantly what can I do about it without rooting? Thanks, I realize I'm probably late to the party on this deeply offensive issue but I'm here now and, frankly, I'd love to stay if I could turn this monstrosity back into an acceptable mobile device. Thanks again for any help
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First of all. Calm down, man. It isn't that serious, they're just applications. Who gets so heated over extra applications. Especially when you have 1GB+ to install anything you want. Including any alternate launcher that has the ability to hide applications.
Second, you can't do anything without rooting because all those applications are system applications. It's simple and harmless to root. Then if you do you can just use an application like Root Explorer and delete them to to delight.
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i dont know, im still offended. Anyway wheres chrome to phone? I cant find it in the market and i searched "samsung vibrant chrome to phone download" but google just laughed at me
DMaverick50 said:
i dont know, im still offended. Anyway wheres chrome to phone? I cant find it in the market and i searched "samsung vibrant chrome to phone download" but google just laughed at me
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Even if you could find it. It'd be useless since it only works on 2.2 A.K.A Froyo.
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DMaverick50 said:
I went from a G1 to a MT3G to an N1 to this perfectly sized vibrant with its smooth processor and beautiful display and I can honestly say I'm furious enough with all of its bloatware that for the first time I may take an android phone back solely because of the crapware (although the lack of a flash and trackball/pad are unforgiveable as well). Anyway:
Memo
Diary
Office (can't edit docs of course)
Gogo
mobitv
Avatar(its an f-ing app!!!)
Telenav (less than pointless and if you don't pay $10 a month for something you already have free from google you have yet another dead icon in your app drawer)
write and go (another note app?)
Swype tips (just shoot me)
Slacker
Layar
Audio postcard (I almost slammed my phone onto the pavement)
Daily briefing
I don't even think that covers it. I have two questions: if my previous 3 androids including the very awesome nexus one didn't come filled with the scum of the app market how theo **** did this happen to this phone? And more importantly what can I do about it without rooting? Thanks, I realize I'm probably late to the party on this deeply offensive issue but I'm here now and, frankly, I'd love to stay if I could turn this monstrosity back into an acceptable mobile device. Thanks again for any help
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Wow... You seriously need to settle down. They are just applications. They aren't going to harm you. I don't think anyone has been as "offended" as you about it so you're the only person at that party. I'm curious since you stated you've owned 3 other T-Mobile android phones, did you not use the phone prior to your purchase? You're obviously not oblivious to this forum; so why didn't you check here first before having your meltdown? Just doesn't seem like an act of common sense...
Anyways, just use launcher pro and hide whatever apparently you don't want to see. Or root and remove them. Both are easy to do and don't require any further irrational behavior from you such as returning the phone.
Good luck!
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bummer about chrome to phone. And no i didnt use the phone, i still have my nexus but wife was at tmobile getting one so i wanted one too. But the crapware is just stupid, i dont care how much room i have on my phone that doesnt mean i want a bunch of useless **** on my phone. And like with my other phones, i refuse to root just to fix my multi-hundred dollar phone. im not against rooting, just not to make right what should come that way. But honestly, telenav? I mean if samsung or tmobile is going to try to curb their costs by adding redundant apps, they should at least give me the option to pay the extra few bucks to have a decent experience. There just needs to be a way for the average user to remove the crap.
Then again maybe im just pissed because of how i have to pay for how greedy these ****ty companies are. It never ends. I do like the UI though, ive heard nothing but bad things about touchwiz but the whole UI seems very put together. Android said for gingerbread they want the UI to look more cohesive, common visuals/elements. Like what touchwiz already has. Im not a huge fan of the dock or the utter lack of widgets, but its better than vanilla and even sense imo. so theres some positive feedback to even out the meltdown
DMaverick50 said:
bummer about chrome to phone. And no i didnt use the phone, i still have my nexus but wife was at tmobile getting one so i wanted one too. But the crapware is just stupid, i dont care how much room i have on my phone that doesnt mean i want a bunch of useless **** on my phone. And like with my other phones, i refuse to root just to fix my multi-hundred dollar phone. im not against rooting, just not to make right what should come that way. But honestly, telenav? I mean if samsung or tmobile is going to try to curb their costs by adding redundant apps, they should at least give me the option to pay the extra few bucks to have a decent experience. There just needs to be a way for the average user to remove the crap.
Then again maybe im just pissed because of how i have to pay for how greedy these ****ty companies are. It never ends. I do like the UI though, ive heard nothing but bad things about touchwiz but the whole UI seems very put together. Android said for gingerbread they want the UI to look more cohesive, common visuals/elements. Like what touchwiz already has. Im not a huge fan of the dock or the utter lack of widgets, but its better than vanilla and even sense imo. so theres some positive feedback to even out the meltdown
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Wow, you get offended too easily. Just to be fare, tmobile do give you an option to use or not to use the apps. If you don't feel like using those apps like telenav then don't use it. They are not billing you for it just because it's on your phone. You also have an option to root and remove those boatware. Just because you rooted and remove those bloatware it doesn't mean you're fixing anything. Just are just simply uninstalling a few apps. I'm sure some others find some of those bloatwares useful, so each to their own. Main point is, you have the option to decide how you want your phone to be. If it really bother and offend you that much then just stick with other android phones. I highly doubt anyone else find bloatware offensive.
LOL at this thread.
"OMG HOW DARE SAMSUNG MAKE EXTRA APPS FOR PEOPLE??...I DONT USE THEM SO NO ONE ELSE MUST EITHER!"
get over yourself. It's OK for Google to load your phone with Google talk and voice and maps (even though you can get them in the market), but not for the manufacturer? LOL
Cut it out.
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DMaverick50 said:
bummer about chrome to phone. And no i didnt use the phone, i still have my nexus but wife was at tmobile getting one so i wanted one too. But the crapware is just stupid, i dont care how much room i have on my phone that doesnt mean i want a bunch of useless **** on my phone. And like with my other phones, i refuse to root just to fix my multi-hundred dollar phone. im not against rooting, just not to make right what should come that way. But honestly, telenav? I mean if samsung or tmobile is going to try to curb their costs by adding redundant apps, they should at least give me the option to pay the extra few bucks to have a decent experience. There just needs to be a way for the average user to remove the crap.
Then again maybe im just pissed because of how i have to pay for how greedy these ****ty companies are. It never ends. I do like the UI though, ive heard nothing but bad things about touchwiz but the whole UI seems very put together. Android said for gingerbread they want the UI to look more cohesive, common visuals/elements. Like what touchwiz already has. Im not a huge fan of the dock or the utter lack of widgets, but its better than vanilla and even sense imo. so theres some positive feedback to even out the meltdown
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Dude seriously? Cry much? you have been here for over a year and did not do your research prior to buying the phone? This news was all over every gadget blog, all over these forums.
People here have given you options. Get over it and be an adult.
Lol quite a few people maybe not here find those apps useful
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Good thing you didn't buy an Epic 4G, you probably would have off'd yourself.
From what I've seen, the bloatware on the Vibrant is the most unoffensive of the SGS phones.
Hi,
ik was wondering if there is any way to delete all the anoying ads you get by google in the androidsystem, because they are pretty anoying! They use up too much of my screen and I don't want em there!
Is there a solution for this?
I just want an ad-free android phone. If I want to see ads I go looking for them myself! I allready get this sh*t in my email, mail, internetsurfing, TV, magazines, ingame, etc, etc.
If it comes into your personal stuff it's just spam, am I right?
I just don't want no ads/spam no more in my phone!!!!!!!!!!!!
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DaViDoViTsCh said:
Hi,
ik was wondering if there is any way to delete all the anoying ads you get by google in the androidsystem, because they are pretty anoying! They use up too much of my screen and I don't want em there!
Is there a solution for this?
I just want an ad-free android phone. If I want to see ads I go looking for them myself! I allready get this sh*t in my email, mail, internetsurfing, TV, magazines, ingame, etc, etc.
If it comes into your personal stuff it's just spam, am I right?
I just don't want no ads/spam no more in my phone!!!!!!!!!!!!
(sounds like a song!)
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"I just want an ad-free android phone."
You just answered your own question download "adfree " . it removes the adds rather i should say it blocks the adds bu just keeping a blank screen . something is better then nothing. I use it myself, and i don't mind the little blank screen which you will never-ever notice.
Your device need to be rooted for using Adfree.
Just remember, you're hurting the developers who wrote that program for you to use. But, if you're ok with that, do what the guy above said.
i've never understood how online andvertisment works.
Never clicked on a single ad and yet they're making money?
sense none
It's called "impressions". They pay very little, but, if you've got a big enough audience, they are good enough.
Also, people do click on ads, you'd be surprised. I've clicked on a few, especially in apps that I really like and want to support the devs.
Well, I'm not asking for those ads! If i use an app, it's because I want to use that app, not because there are some interesting ads in it!
And oc I dont want blank space instead! I wan to use my screen for what I am doing at that moment!
DaViDoViTsCh said:
And oc I dont want blank space instead! I wan to use my screen for what I am doing at that moment!
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Then pay for the App, Or find the donate version and buy it.
DaViDoViTsCh said:
Well, I'm not asking for those ads! If i use an app, it's because I want to use that app, not because there are some interesting ads in it!
And oc I dont want blank space instead! I wan to use my screen for what I am doing at that moment!
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Without those Ads there wouldnt be any free apps because thats what helps devs progress on work, u want no ads? Do what the guy suggested above and from the second post, i find it funny how u see it annoying, its a marketing stradegy, get over it
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i find it funny how u see it annoying, its a marketing stradegy, get over it
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Well I think it's f**ked up that we live in a society like that! I already paid for the phone!
But I get the picture... I will try that second post blank spot on my screen by lack of better.
Thnx
DaViDoViTsCh said:
Well I think it's f**ked up that we live in a society like that! I already paid for the phone!
But I get the picture... I will try that second post blank spot on my screen by lack of better.
Thnx
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You think it's messed up we live in a society where people should receive money for work they did?
You paid for your PC, does that mean all the software should be free? You've paid for a refrigerator, does that mean your food should be free? You've paid for a car, does that mean gas should be free?
When you grow up, you'll hopefully realize that people work hard for a reason.
Well, I guess it's for money, right?!
But still it doesn't mean that they have to spam it into my life!
You missed my point: I'm happy and willing to pay for what I need and people offer, but it's still my choise to go looking for it myself, instead of being spammed on my mobile, TV, email, regular mail, etc...
I perfectly know what I want and don't want. It has nothing to do with groing up.
It's just a shame that we live in a society in what this is all seen as 'normal'.
Ontopic: after experiencing adfree for two days now, I can say I'm happy with it.
DaViDoViTsCh said:
Well, I guess it's for money, right?!
But still it doesn't mean that they have to spam it into my life!
You missed my point: I'm happy and willing to pay for what I need and people offer, but it's still my choise to go looking for it myself, instead of being spammed on my mobile, TV, email, regular mail, etc...
I perfectly know what I want and don't want. It has nothing to do with groing up.
It's just a shame that we live in a society in what this is all seen as 'normal'.
Ontopic: after experiencing adfree for two days now, I can say I'm happy with it.
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For people like you it doesnt have effect, however there are lots of people, actually most of the humans, who are catchable for advertisements.
If it didnt create any turnover companies stopped advertising ages ago. Now they are willing to pay huge amounts of money to get advertising time during a important tv event...so this is a cheap way for small companies to get their names into the already overloaded free market where we luckily live in.
For you it is one of the downsides of this free world, for them it is an oppurtunity to increase business.
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And this is why Communism still exists...
iead1 said:
You think it's messed up we live in a society where people should receive money for work they did?
You paid for your PC, does that mean all the software should be free? You've paid for a refrigerator, does that mean your food should be free? You've paid for a car, does that mean gas should be free?
When you grow up, you'll hopefully realize that people work hard for a reason.
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well, and linux somehow exists, ad free
Hi,
I've got 3 apps/live wallpapers currently on the market (links listed below in my signature), all with free and donation versions. Between them they have had just under 32,000 downloads in the last four months. They've been rated between 4 and 5 stars with positive feedback.
Can anyone think of a reason why I've only had a couple of dozen sales of the donation versions? (Many thanks if you have bought one )
It can't be lack of visibility or quality as the free versions seem to be quite popular and are getting healthy reviews. The donation versions have extra functionality as a bonus incentive. It's not price - they are as cheap as I can make them!
Am I missing something? I am at a loss. Please can somebody point me in the right direction?
I'm not naieve enough to think I'll make a ton of cash out of it, just enough to even partially justify the effort I've put in would be nice.
Regards,
Paul
Strangemoo
Hi,
You can get answers to your questions if you look at Wiki - Product Marketing. It is not simple, but when you start to understand this process, your sales will grow.
Sorry for my English.
pphillips001 said:
Can anyone think of a reason why I've only had a couple of dozen sales of the donation versions?
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Because people want things for free is the simple answer.
pphillips001 said:
Hi,
I've got 3 apps/live wallpapers currently on the market (links listed below in my signature), all with free and donation versions. Between them they have had just under 32,000 downloads in the last four months. They've been rated between 4 and 5 stars with positive feedback.
Can anyone think of a reason why I've only had a couple of dozen sales of the donation versions? (Many thanks if you have bought one )
It can't be lack of visibility or quality as the free versions seem to be quite popular and are getting healthy reviews. The donation versions have extra functionality as a bonus incentive. It's not price - they are as cheap as I can make them!
Am I missing something? I am at a loss. Please can somebody point me in the right direction?
I'm not naieve enough to think I'll make a ton of cash out of it, just enough to even partially justify the effort I've put in would be nice.
Regards,
Paul
Strangemoo
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Are the free versions ad supported?
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I am speaking from a position of total ignorance here but, if I were in your shoes, I would totally just remove the free versions...
Or stick ads in the free versions
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Yep it is very very simple. Free, even with ads people will choose over the paid versions. Even at 99 cents it's enough for people not to purchase.
Plus if your apps make it to pirating sites, there is no point in buying the app. Even my sister can figure out the piracy stuff for android and she cant even install Windows 7.
I will give you my objective experience as a random android user.
I don't think you have done anything wrong. I installed both Dino Pop and Zombie Pop and found myself chuckling and having fun.
I think that it's just something that doesn't fit in the paid app category as much.
I usually pay for apps that I find useful or have promise of future, as of yet unrevealed, entertainment.
I don't know what the limitations of live wallpaper are, but even a simple game needs a) unpredictable change of scenery b) the need for strategy (to entice the mind to test its abilities) c) some kind of final challenge (maybe like a boss zombie or something, to give that sense of accomplishment)
These are just my super honest thoughts, 100% intended to help out.
On a related note, I used to love this arcade game called strikers 1945 plus. I always thought it would be awesome to have a live wallpaper game like that (but obviously not as in depth..it's wallpaper lol)...again, not sure how difficult something like that would be. Just my two cents.
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My thinking...
Case 1: If I find an app for free that also has a Donate version, without any extra features, I will never pay for it. Period.
Case 2: Usually when there is a free app, that also has a paid version without ads, I will buy it if I use the free version enough to wish it didn't have ads.
Case 3: There is a free app (usually a game) that I use continuously every/every other day and I will see that there is a paid version. The paid version has tons of cool features, options, game levels, etc. If I get a little bored of the free version, and really need something extra, I usually won't hesitate to buy it. (Ex. Noogra Nuts, Navy Wars)
Then there's those apps like FriendCaster and Twitter apps with ads. The paid version of FriendCaster is $5. I won't ever buy it to remove the ads. I won't pay for it simply because they don't get in the way, and I can access Facebook/Twitter in many different ways.
Even the name "Whatever App - DONATE" is just a red flag to users. Basically they might see that, and just not even look at it. They won't even see that there are extra options available. You might be able to get away with changing the name (to 'Pro version' or just without 'Donate') and really push the extra functionality.
Just my thoughts about free/donate/paid versions of apps. Hope it helps
Oh, and I like your LWs, keep up the good work!
I agree and have had a somewhat similar experience. I have bought a live wallpaper before because it had added functionality and got rid of upgrade messages on the homescreen (photolive wallpaper). The free version was good enough for me to try it and see what its like, but still restrictive enough for me to have to buy it. I have also donated to an app called Llama, but this is a special case where I will donate more than the small amount in the android market because I love the app and the dev isn't asking what I am willing to pay.
I would say to restrict the free versions of features and really give people both an incentive and reason to upgrade the product if they like it. If not people will generally make do with what they don't have to buy. I went for 2 years with my first Droid experience without buying a single app, I just used add supported or completely free versions, but now I'm much more inclined to support developers when I find something I like and usually but not in all cases, that I can try first.
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Many thanks to all of the inciteful responses. All very inteteresting points.
In a nutshell it appears that I'm basically giving too much for too little. I've withheld going down the adverts route as I'm not a great fan personally - but if that's how the 'many' prefer to go then who am I to disagree!
Does anyone else find it funny that you have to actually annoy Android users into paying for apps?!
Lol - what a world.
Thanks again,
Paul
Strangemoo
pphillips001 said:
Many thanks to all of the inciteful responses. All very inteteresting points.
In a nutshell it appears that I'm basically giving too much for too little. I've withheld going down the adverts route as I'm not a great fan personally - but if that's how the 'many' prefer to go then who am I to disagree!
Does anyone else find it funny that you have to actually annoy Android users into paying for apps?!
Lol - what a world.
Thanks again,
Paul
Strangemoo
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The key to money is think "free = demo," "paid = full featured."
If you do that, and people like it, then you will get more money. I play a game, I like it, it's a demo, that person made a sale. They give it away for free, I'm likely to just use it for free and never even visit their "donation page."
It's like the old saying: Why pay for a cow, when you can get the milk at home for free?
Being not married, that doesn't really apply to me, and I don't pay for cows either way
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Oh yeah... It should probably also be mentioned that when people pay for something, it usually gives them a license (or so they think) to rate it and comment more harshly, so don't be all shocked if ratings go down when you implement a pay-per-app methodology.
pphillips001 said:
Many thanks to all of the inciteful responses. All very inteteresting points.
In a nutshell it appears that I'm basically giving too much for too little. I've withheld going down the adverts route as I'm not a great fan personally - but if that's how the 'many' prefer to go then who am I to disagree!
Does anyone else find it funny that you have to actually annoy Android users into paying for apps?!
Lol - what a world.
Thanks again,
Paul
Strangemoo
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The key to money is think "free = demo," "paid = full featured."
If you do that, and people like it, then you will get more money. I play a game, I like it, it's a demo, that person made a sale. They give it away for free, I'm likely to just use it for free and never even visit their "donation page."
It's like the old saying: Why pay for a cow, when you can get the milk at home for free?
Being not married, that doesn't really apply to me, and I don't pay for cows either way
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Oh yeah... It should probably also be mentioned that when people pay for something, it usually gives them a license (or so they think) to rate it and comment more harshly, so don't be all shocked if ratings go down when you implement a pay-per-app methodology.
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I think you're both right. If you could offer a demo with built in restrictions and then an unlock key. If you can avoid ads and thus the network access permission, which personally I prefer not to see on a live Wallpaper, that would be even better. Then the user has a decent live wallpaper with no strange permissions (for a wallpaper) but something always there to give an incentive to buy it if one likes the developer's work and or the demo product and want to unlock features. This adds value to the product because I would bet less people really care about donating than they would paying to unlock a full version!
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I will give you my objective experience as a random android user.
I don't think you have done anything wrong. I installed both Dino Pop and Zombie Pop and found myself chuckling and having fun.
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I think that it's just something that doesn't fit in the paid app category as much.
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I know what you mean. I figured I'd start off with a couple of live wallpapers to 'test the water'. I have a couple of neat ideas for some original games - but am still unsure it'll be worth the effort on this platform (which is a shame as I love writing for Android).
jontornblom said:
I usually pay for apps that I find useful or have promise of future, as of yet unrevealed, entertainment.
I don't know what the limitations of live wallpaper are, but even a simple game needs a) unpredictable change of scenery
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The paid for versions allows you to change the background to anything in your gallery.
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b) the need for strategy (to entice the mind to test its abilities)
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Lol - got me on that one! Finger popping is a bit strategy deficient! I suppose I could add more baddies with different traits...
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c) some kind of final challenge (maybe like a boss zombie or something, to give that sense of accomplishment)
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I had tried to keep both Zombie and Dino Pop lightweight on purpose - largely because they are just wallpapers. But point taken.
I am in two minds whether to polish them up and wrap them both into stand-alone apps.
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These are just my super honest thoughts, 100% intended to help out.
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Sincerely appreciated and many, many thanks!
jontornblom said:
On a related note, I used to love this arcade game called strikers 1945 plus. I always thought it would be awesome to have a live wallpaper game like that (but obviously not as in depth..it's wallpaper lol)...again, not sure how difficult something like that would be. Just my two cents.
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I'll have a look for that - it may turn into my next project
Kind regards,
Paul
Strangemoo
All the best! I'll keep an eye out for your new products!
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I just hope Google puts its foot down on this epidemic...Maybe release a antimalware app or something..or make some strict laws to developers...
A good start is to only download reputable apps and make sure the developer is easily contactable and documented.
Not having or using a credit card helps too.
With Google clearly having the information and power of Big Brother, I'm sure they will take care of it one way or another.
Grant Barker said:
A good start is to only download reputable apps and make sure the developer is easily contactable and documented.
Not having or using a credit card helps too.
With Google clearly having the information and power of Big Brother, I'm sure they will take care of it one way or another.
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+1 to that... I don't download apps unless for one, I see good reviews, and more importantly, that I can easily contact the dev if I run into any unusual activity after using their app.
Google usually removes malware apps and removes the developer from the Android Developer Program.. I doubt people would continuously pay the 25 dollar registration fee over and over just to release malware.. Time will run is course and malware will exit the Market, but I can guarantee you you'll always find malware outside of the Market, especially within those Chinese Markets that offer Market apps "for free/ at a discount".. they're usually infected.
$25 is a minimal fee when you look at the big picture, like how much information can be pulled from a smartphone, and the sheer number of people that use them. If the benefits outweight the cost to the malware devs, im sure they'll keep paying the $25 to keep their feet in the door.
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$25 is a minimal fee when you look at the big picture, like how much information can be pulled from a smartphone, and the sheer number of people that use them. If the benefits outweight the cost to the malware devs, im sure they'll keep paying the $25 to keep their feet in the door.
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Still doubt it. Hopefully they'll soon enough stay out of the Market and target the 3rd party vendors, like Slideme. Not saying they should, but they need to get the hell out of the Market.
If the name "Android" were changed to something more accurate & device-specific, people could make more informed decisions
I suggest ADroid
like Ad + Roids = ADroids
The Discussion here is thought provoking
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Maybe Ad-Droid would be better
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or ADD-Droid
or AdsDroid
or maybe even... "spamdroid"
ooh i like that one
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http://store.apple.com/us
^^^^ click this link and never come back again.
if you don't like it, take another phone which does suit your needs instead of some useless complaining on the internet.
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http://store.apple.com/us
^^^^ click this link and never come back again.
if you don't like it, take another phone which does suit your needs instead of some useless complaining on the internet.
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I'm sorry, but did you vote?
please do because I'm especially interested in hearing from the people who make the apps with the ads in them..
This thread is created specifically to address this very issue..
How many people, upon entering the android shop and playing around with the phone, had any idea 90% of the apps are chock full of annoying ads?
there was literally not a single google ad on any of the phones I tried in all the stores
Its a bit deceiving.
Hence, the suggested name change..
no, i'm not spending even more money on even more phones.
thanks though
but we should be extra vigilant in helping others who may fall into the same trap
It may be too late for me, but I believe with the proper name change, we can help other people avoid this exact same problem.. a problem you yourself may even hate more than me.. if thats even possible
keep up the good work
and dont forget to vote!
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Every person I know does not complain about ads and stuff, and if you really don't like them; buy the adfree and give the dev a beer!
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matgras said:
buy the adfree and give the dev a beer!
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Yep, or turn off data & wifi if not needed, and that's it... no ads
matgras said:
Every person I know does not complain about ads and stuff, and if you really don't like them; buy the adfree and give the dev a beer!
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is that 3 people? and are they all by chance app developers hoping to become millionaires?
MANKIND is fed up with the ads
we're fed up with noobs who should stick to programming or email spamming and stay the fk out of marketing, an area they obviously know nothing about.
you want money, you want a beer? EARN IT!
nobody's giving you any money because you annoy the sht out of them.. the advetising companies know that.. they are just using programmers for ad placement,, you are ad company fodder
the majority of ads on apps are not even making the developer any money.. if you didnt actually code the program yourself, and used one of the online app-building services, and are offering your app for free, then odds are you had no choice but to put ads in your app, just to be able to make it for free... and if you did pay to build it. all you get is 50% of ad revenue shared with the online builder service
and then you make 0% of the revenue the ads produce, and the online service makes 100% funded by THE most uneducated, classless, bunch of dirtbag wannabe advertisers on the planet, "the all-in-one-internet advertisers/codemonkeys"
buy you a beer eh?
are u joking or toking?
people donate money to developers who have made an awesome program from top to bottom.. a program they love, by a dev who offered it for free at a great personal cost, and who may very well have no money at all, since all of his time has been spent helping the community
thats how its always been
nobody is giving you any money for spamming them..
YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD.. your ads.. thats your beer money, drunkard...you are not a coder who does things for the community, investing all his own free time for the benefit of others without reward or thought of reward...
you are someone who has chosen to spam the community for pittance, YOU DONT DESERVE COMMUNITY MONEY..
you already have a sugardaddy.. the Ad companies.
not only do you appear to be a pathetic beggar, and pretending to need beer money, you are also behind the Ad spammers, you are on their wagon.. you're playing both sides, like we're all a bunch of fools...
who in the hell is going to pay you anything just so that special ol' you may graciously stop your uber-annoyances & ad spamming?
good luck with that
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The good thing about android and its freedom, is that you can always use ad-blockers, restrict internet access, and other permissions with just a quick internet search and a little reading.
Trust me, blocking ads is quicker than spamming a forum.
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The good thing about android and its freedom, is that you can always use ad-blockers, restrict internet access, and other permissions with just a quick internet search and a little reading.
Trust me, blocking ads is quicker than spamming a forum.
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that does nothing to address a wide-spread problem
here, we're looking for real solutions to the spam problem
the spam problem is not mine, as a user, though I'm sure you'd like to run around calling everyone who doesnt enjoy your spamming a noob
the spam problem lies in the relationship & system ecostructure existing between ad companies, googles own ad interests, app devs, dev ethics, ad compnay ethics and Google policies
but would you rather I "just shut up", or "just go away"?
rather than solving a serious problem?
and might that have something to do with your own ad spamming?
this is about a real solution, not shutting up one person so you continue carrying about like a monkey
thanks for your imput though
and please vote
Well don't really understand your hate towards ads chinarabbit but heck i just replied to state my thoughts on it.
I don't like ads and don't see any advantage these ads provide besides giving you totally pointless info.
But since you are free to download and install anything you wan't i don't see a reason to then just uninstall the app and either buy the full unlocked version without ads or find another app that does what you wan't.
I hardly have any apps on my phone with ads so annoying that i needed to click the ad away before i could use the app.
On your comment that a dev needs to EARN his money
On one side i do follow you and one only should receive money after showing his programming money worthy skills.
But isn't that the whole idea of a free & paid app? If you like what you see in the free 'ad sponsored' app then you can buy the app and have an AD FREE app.
If there are still ads in the paid version you just uninstall it and get your money back to never look at that dev ever again.
And if you still say they need to give you and ad free version and then you'll happy pay them if it's good then WOW what a naive mind setting you live in.
Once a person receives a free full working ad free version then let's say 80% (no stats to show just made this up) won't even bother helping out the dev by donating. Out of those 80% one side are cheapskates not carrying about the dev and on the other sides they don't like the app but since it was adfree they still use it.
Long discussion short:
- You are free to choose what you DL / use so if you don't like ads use the paid versions or just don't use ad sponsored apps
- A dev should be allowed to use in app ads no matter what ( cause people are cheap bastards)
- Ad sponsoring does provide some income (i was able to host 2 sites in the past purely running on ads)
To me this thread is just your way to vent out ad frustration and trying to find other people with the same mind set.
But face it if you don't like ads go live in a cave because:
- Ads on radio
- Ads on TV
- Ads in Newspaper
- Ads in magazine
- Ads on the roads
- Ads on the internet
- All your base are belong to ads
As to finding a solution. there is NO solution.
Ads exists because companies wan't there name out there to be known and don't mind spending some $$ to achieve it.
If you can make it so companies can let everyone know who/what they are/do (<--- HHMMM ads) then you will automatically remove the ads from every place.
See how this above sentence made absolutely no sense what so ever ( point proven that ads are impossible to remove cause then companies won't survive)
What are you on? You're having a conversation with yourself in this thread and the front page comments. Google is making steps to make those annoying ad distribution methods bannable. Take a deep breath, count to 10, and relax. In the future, stop downloading all these trash apps that keep spamming you.
On your original post, I don't think Google should rebrand Android. Rebranding is terrible. I vote keep the name the same
sleeperzzz said:
Well don't really understand your hate towards ads chinarabbit but heck i just replied to state my thoughts on it.
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hmm, well, i strongly disagree there is "no" solution
lets look more closely at the problem
On the developer side, they are doing the best with what they have, which is a very limited education focused on a very narrow field.. not your marketing wizs.. they are doing what they know, which is ad-based internet revenue generating as a valid form of advertising..
but that doesnt work when it takes up a tenth of your screen.
and the other side of the problem is that companies like Coco-cola, or whatever, who are not very tech-savvy, have hitherto had to rely on said webdevs to place their ads and run their online marketing
but make no mistake, the overwhelming majority of internet marketers are not actually marketers at all, but are little web designers and social media architects etc, that have really no concept of how to set-up, run, or manage a proper Marketing Campaign...
both sides are to blame..
u cant understand why I am so upset, so I'll tell you right now it likely has something to do with the fact that I have been in Marketing for the last decade. real, actual marketing, and have taught advanced-level marketing at some of the best marketing institutes, including those in Singapore.
anyway.. there are many ways to make money, ads in your app that people have to pay to remove is one way you can try to earn money
another way, and perhaps one of the best ways, is micro-charging, a concept fully realize in Korea, Japan & China, but which Americans can't seem to grasp at all.. and I have my doubts as to whether they ever will.
firstly, the carriers wont ever do whats needed for micro-charging to work, namely, allow you to take it out of your account, largely because America is not a Pay as you go telecom system, but one you pay per month and are given a set plan..
in Asia, you recharge your phone by recharge cards, and with a click of a button you deduct money from your balance for whatever you want
and Secondly, because America cant seem to figure out the numbers, and take that leap of faith required to charge people $0.01-$0.05 cents per function, rather than $0.25 and up... and offer them enough activity for their money they had a good time with it...
EA Sports is an example of such a company failing to grasp this basic Asian concept.
EA bought Popcap, and being a North American company is having a hard time making it successful in China.. Plants vs Zombies 2 for your Android Device is currently only out in China, and its one of the most popular games, currently... But those EA dorks ACTUALLY THINK PEOPLE WILL PAY 2RMB FOR 5 SECONDS WORTH OF IN-GAME FUNCTIONALITY.. ok. actually, its for blue diamonds. but anyway..
they are completely retarded.. people play that game all day long.. charging 2 to 5 Cents per function is ok, you may use that function up to 2rmb or 2 dollars a day, and be happy to pay for it if you got a good amount of fun for your money...
but to charge someone 2 yuan because YOU think people should pay 2 Yuan, because you laugh at 1 cent.. even when its not actually costing you anything to increase the in-game value, actually makes you a retard.. in Asia anyway..
or make them pay upfront from a large number of tokens etc.. is not going to work as well as on-demand, need-it-now, 1 to 5 cent, single-click, in-app micro-pays
especially when you have 1 billion users. who play the game every day for years to come
instead, what dorky American companies get is exactly squat.. and its probably more than they deserve
OR they give you some lame crappy game and expect you to pay for having a worthwhile game
Plants v Zombies is a very fun game, challenging, and fulfilling, even if you never spend a penny on micro-charges
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another way people make money is by offering a very great and fully functional app, that is in itself a pleasure & joy to use, and fulfills your needs.
then, YOU GET OFF YOUR BUTT AND INCREASE THE SIZE AND FUNCTIONALITY OF YOUR PROGRAM 2-10 TIMES MORE
yes, that means way more work for you
and then, you charge people small amounts to add that functionality
Pleco is an example of a successful app doing this.. they give you a great, robust, very full-featured & useful app that is itself very complete and you would not need anything more
they then offer you things you didnt even know you wanted until you saw partly how they work within the app, and you end up buying them
.......... great
and another way is create an app for free, also without ads, that people really enjoy, and then request that they donate to you if they enjoyed it & feel its worth it
they sometimes even suggest an amount.
or they ask you to pay if you use it for business, or you make money with that app, etc..
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AND THEN, in stark contrast to all the ad-free options above, there is the worst possible way imaginable.. you make an app which annoys the crap out of everybody, making them hate your app, causing some people to fall into epileptic seizures, when you yourself have not even the slightest concept of what marketing is..
those ads arent even targeted, maybe by region or IP address, but rest assured, many more people will be hating your company, when you stick crap in the face of people who would never use your product and are not even in your target demographic.
its completely useless
WHAT USE COULD POSSIBLY COME FROM SPAMMING AN ELITE 30 SOMETHING MALE WITH ADS OF WOMEN'S MAKEUP?
none..
its a marketing fail
and its worse than that, it actually hurts your company
and no, you cant ask your customers why your ad spamming bothers them and look at them like they're stupid for not wanting them on the limited space displays in their handheld devices
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and worse than those people are the ones who also want you to pay for complete functionality on a limited functionality app, or to remove the ads
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there is definitely solutions
Marketing companies taking over App Development from the too-geeky-to-get-it devs
let people click close on the banner, and dont make it re-open until the next time the app is opened
or something like youtube has done, "you can close this banner ad in 5-4-3-2-1"
the ability to 'click next' on the ad, with an option to say "this ad doesnt apply to me"
and for google to enforce these protocols, as well as require all in-app ads to be targeted to a specific demographic according to more than 3 demographic or psychographic criteria..
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oh, make no mistake, my friend, the problem is monumental
and, yes, there are many, many solutions to the problem.. indeed...
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I find it ironic that you tout how important good marketing is (which I wholeheartedly agree with you on that point), while simultaneously suggesting Google to rebrand their most successful operating system to Ad-droid or the likes. Surely you must have realised that the marketing team at Google would not do such a thing for obvious reasons?
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I find it ironic that you tout how important good marketing is (which I wholeheartedly agree with you on that point), while simultaneously suggesting Google to rebrand their most successful operating system to Ad-droid or the likes. Surely you must have realised that the marketing team at Google would not do such a thing for obvious reasons?
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its not a complete rebranding.. that is obviously the same current android logo, the android logo is very familiar, and it can have many different versions
the above version is just a suggestions.
Google is the brand, Android is a product line of the brand
and its in a dynamic market needing dynamic & innovative adjustments to keep up with the trends, technology, and social nuances
Adroid would be a re-introduction, an honest improvement over the current and inferior "Android"
Now, at this point I feel that I should point out to you that everything I have just said in this post right here is a joke.. not the haha type, but kind of a sad parody.. or more of a parable of sorts
it seems nobody here can really get a figure of speech that has a lesson beyond the surface text
the Adroid above is an example of everything that is wrong with the current situation in Google's Android platform and its connectors
its a Metaphor
for a real and devastating problem
shall I draw an image of exactly how annoying it is..
this is what it would look like on an HD Windows 7 Desktop
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Perhaps instead of a full banner, they could make a small corner icon, that says "Click to See Your Ads"
"what use is that", you say?
"who would ever click on that"? you say?
Before installing an ad-supported app from the Ad-supported app section of Google Play, you need to first install the "Special Offers Manager" app.. where you are given a list of options/ a short survey where you select the type of ads you are interested in
You can select things like "sports", "movies", Fishing" etc, entering your own text if suitable choices arent available
you can also sign up for ads from specific companies or products, like Pepsi, Nike, Walmart, etc..
and you only get those ads..
AND they are full-screen, multi-page ads
and they never auto-appear
so the ads are tailored to the person's interests and personal preferences, and thus spark their interest, and may even be anticipated, or the highlight of their android usage.
"But they wont click on them if they arent shoved in their faces" you angrily exclaim
but they will, because they know there is something relevant to them, and because they can be presented with ACTUALLY SPECIAL offers.. that is, offers the user finds special, not offers the company finds special
on clicking an ad, you see Pepsi or Walmart, you are presented with a full-page Coupon or page of coupons,, or swipable multi-pages, as a coupon book..
then you click "Save QR Code" on a specific coupon, and its stored in your "Special Offers Manager" which comes as a stand-alone app for people who want to use Ad-supported ads.. the ads can be viewed by company or by date..
and there is an option in the "Special Offers Manager" app to only update coupons on WiFi connection, so you can upload larger coupon books
and all ad-supported ads are labelled as such on Google Play, and searchable in a specific category, separate from "Free".. Free, and "Ad-Supported Free"
then you go to a store, pull out your phone, go to your 'Special Offers Manager', click "Get QR Code" for the offer you saved, scan it at the store, and receive your special offer.
users will actively seek out the ads, clicking through them on the "Next" and "Previous" buttons, cycling through ads made just for you, according to your needs.
no secret info collecting and guessing what people want
whatever.. America is 15 years out from this, yet.. if ever
And here's a well put together article for you take a gander at http://www.forbes.com/sites/ayoomojola/2013/09/26/ios-is-for-revenue-android-is-for-ads/
iOS users spend more on Apps, Android users don't. iOS users are going to shell out more $$$ for a product that's not always up to date or quickly falls behind the Android competitors.
So Android users it would seem have adapted and can deal with the ads. If it's something that bothers you so greatly, maybe you should take your money over to iOS. Pay more and get less ads. bye!
Surprise surprise this thread is going nowhere. I'm shocked.
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