Hi,
I've got 3 apps/live wallpapers currently on the market (links listed below in my signature), all with free and donation versions. Between them they have had just under 32,000 downloads in the last four months. They've been rated between 4 and 5 stars with positive feedback.
Can anyone think of a reason why I've only had a couple of dozen sales of the donation versions? (Many thanks if you have bought one )
It can't be lack of visibility or quality as the free versions seem to be quite popular and are getting healthy reviews. The donation versions have extra functionality as a bonus incentive. It's not price - they are as cheap as I can make them!
Am I missing something? I am at a loss. Please can somebody point me in the right direction?
I'm not naieve enough to think I'll make a ton of cash out of it, just enough to even partially justify the effort I've put in would be nice.
Regards,
Paul
Strangemoo
Hi,
You can get answers to your questions if you look at Wiki - Product Marketing. It is not simple, but when you start to understand this process, your sales will grow.
Sorry for my English.
pphillips001 said:
Can anyone think of a reason why I've only had a couple of dozen sales of the donation versions?
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Because people want things for free is the simple answer.
pphillips001 said:
Hi,
I've got 3 apps/live wallpapers currently on the market (links listed below in my signature), all with free and donation versions. Between them they have had just under 32,000 downloads in the last four months. They've been rated between 4 and 5 stars with positive feedback.
Can anyone think of a reason why I've only had a couple of dozen sales of the donation versions? (Many thanks if you have bought one )
It can't be lack of visibility or quality as the free versions seem to be quite popular and are getting healthy reviews. The donation versions have extra functionality as a bonus incentive. It's not price - they are as cheap as I can make them!
Am I missing something? I am at a loss. Please can somebody point me in the right direction?
I'm not naieve enough to think I'll make a ton of cash out of it, just enough to even partially justify the effort I've put in would be nice.
Regards,
Paul
Strangemoo
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Are the free versions ad supported?
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I am speaking from a position of total ignorance here but, if I were in your shoes, I would totally just remove the free versions...
Or stick ads in the free versions
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Yep it is very very simple. Free, even with ads people will choose over the paid versions. Even at 99 cents it's enough for people not to purchase.
Plus if your apps make it to pirating sites, there is no point in buying the app. Even my sister can figure out the piracy stuff for android and she cant even install Windows 7.
I will give you my objective experience as a random android user.
I don't think you have done anything wrong. I installed both Dino Pop and Zombie Pop and found myself chuckling and having fun.
I think that it's just something that doesn't fit in the paid app category as much.
I usually pay for apps that I find useful or have promise of future, as of yet unrevealed, entertainment.
I don't know what the limitations of live wallpaper are, but even a simple game needs a) unpredictable change of scenery b) the need for strategy (to entice the mind to test its abilities) c) some kind of final challenge (maybe like a boss zombie or something, to give that sense of accomplishment)
These are just my super honest thoughts, 100% intended to help out.
On a related note, I used to love this arcade game called strikers 1945 plus. I always thought it would be awesome to have a live wallpaper game like that (but obviously not as in depth..it's wallpaper lol)...again, not sure how difficult something like that would be. Just my two cents.
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My thinking...
Case 1: If I find an app for free that also has a Donate version, without any extra features, I will never pay for it. Period.
Case 2: Usually when there is a free app, that also has a paid version without ads, I will buy it if I use the free version enough to wish it didn't have ads.
Case 3: There is a free app (usually a game) that I use continuously every/every other day and I will see that there is a paid version. The paid version has tons of cool features, options, game levels, etc. If I get a little bored of the free version, and really need something extra, I usually won't hesitate to buy it. (Ex. Noogra Nuts, Navy Wars)
Then there's those apps like FriendCaster and Twitter apps with ads. The paid version of FriendCaster is $5. I won't ever buy it to remove the ads. I won't pay for it simply because they don't get in the way, and I can access Facebook/Twitter in many different ways.
Even the name "Whatever App - DONATE" is just a red flag to users. Basically they might see that, and just not even look at it. They won't even see that there are extra options available. You might be able to get away with changing the name (to 'Pro version' or just without 'Donate') and really push the extra functionality.
Just my thoughts about free/donate/paid versions of apps. Hope it helps
Oh, and I like your LWs, keep up the good work!
I agree and have had a somewhat similar experience. I have bought a live wallpaper before because it had added functionality and got rid of upgrade messages on the homescreen (photolive wallpaper). The free version was good enough for me to try it and see what its like, but still restrictive enough for me to have to buy it. I have also donated to an app called Llama, but this is a special case where I will donate more than the small amount in the android market because I love the app and the dev isn't asking what I am willing to pay.
I would say to restrict the free versions of features and really give people both an incentive and reason to upgrade the product if they like it. If not people will generally make do with what they don't have to buy. I went for 2 years with my first Droid experience without buying a single app, I just used add supported or completely free versions, but now I'm much more inclined to support developers when I find something I like and usually but not in all cases, that I can try first.
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Many thanks to all of the inciteful responses. All very inteteresting points.
In a nutshell it appears that I'm basically giving too much for too little. I've withheld going down the adverts route as I'm not a great fan personally - but if that's how the 'many' prefer to go then who am I to disagree!
Does anyone else find it funny that you have to actually annoy Android users into paying for apps?!
Lol - what a world.
Thanks again,
Paul
Strangemoo
pphillips001 said:
Many thanks to all of the inciteful responses. All very inteteresting points.
In a nutshell it appears that I'm basically giving too much for too little. I've withheld going down the adverts route as I'm not a great fan personally - but if that's how the 'many' prefer to go then who am I to disagree!
Does anyone else find it funny that you have to actually annoy Android users into paying for apps?!
Lol - what a world.
Thanks again,
Paul
Strangemoo
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The key to money is think "free = demo," "paid = full featured."
If you do that, and people like it, then you will get more money. I play a game, I like it, it's a demo, that person made a sale. They give it away for free, I'm likely to just use it for free and never even visit their "donation page."
It's like the old saying: Why pay for a cow, when you can get the milk at home for free?
Being not married, that doesn't really apply to me, and I don't pay for cows either way
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Oh yeah... It should probably also be mentioned that when people pay for something, it usually gives them a license (or so they think) to rate it and comment more harshly, so don't be all shocked if ratings go down when you implement a pay-per-app methodology.
pphillips001 said:
Many thanks to all of the inciteful responses. All very inteteresting points.
In a nutshell it appears that I'm basically giving too much for too little. I've withheld going down the adverts route as I'm not a great fan personally - but if that's how the 'many' prefer to go then who am I to disagree!
Does anyone else find it funny that you have to actually annoy Android users into paying for apps?!
Lol - what a world.
Thanks again,
Paul
Strangemoo
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majorpay said:
The key to money is think "free = demo," "paid = full featured."
If you do that, and people like it, then you will get more money. I play a game, I like it, it's a demo, that person made a sale. They give it away for free, I'm likely to just use it for free and never even visit their "donation page."
It's like the old saying: Why pay for a cow, when you can get the milk at home for free?
Being not married, that doesn't really apply to me, and I don't pay for cows either way
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Oh yeah... It should probably also be mentioned that when people pay for something, it usually gives them a license (or so they think) to rate it and comment more harshly, so don't be all shocked if ratings go down when you implement a pay-per-app methodology.
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I think you're both right. If you could offer a demo with built in restrictions and then an unlock key. If you can avoid ads and thus the network access permission, which personally I prefer not to see on a live Wallpaper, that would be even better. Then the user has a decent live wallpaper with no strange permissions (for a wallpaper) but something always there to give an incentive to buy it if one likes the developer's work and or the demo product and want to unlock features. This adds value to the product because I would bet less people really care about donating than they would paying to unlock a full version!
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I will give you my objective experience as a random android user.
I don't think you have done anything wrong. I installed both Dino Pop and Zombie Pop and found myself chuckling and having fun.
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I think that it's just something that doesn't fit in the paid app category as much.
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I know what you mean. I figured I'd start off with a couple of live wallpapers to 'test the water'. I have a couple of neat ideas for some original games - but am still unsure it'll be worth the effort on this platform (which is a shame as I love writing for Android).
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I usually pay for apps that I find useful or have promise of future, as of yet unrevealed, entertainment.
I don't know what the limitations of live wallpaper are, but even a simple game needs a) unpredictable change of scenery
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The paid for versions allows you to change the background to anything in your gallery.
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b) the need for strategy (to entice the mind to test its abilities)
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Lol - got me on that one! Finger popping is a bit strategy deficient! I suppose I could add more baddies with different traits...
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c) some kind of final challenge (maybe like a boss zombie or something, to give that sense of accomplishment)
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I had tried to keep both Zombie and Dino Pop lightweight on purpose - largely because they are just wallpapers. But point taken.
I am in two minds whether to polish them up and wrap them both into stand-alone apps.
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These are just my super honest thoughts, 100% intended to help out.
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Sincerely appreciated and many, many thanks!
jontornblom said:
On a related note, I used to love this arcade game called strikers 1945 plus. I always thought it would be awesome to have a live wallpaper game like that (but obviously not as in depth..it's wallpaper lol)...again, not sure how difficult something like that would be. Just my two cents.
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I'll have a look for that - it may turn into my next project
Kind regards,
Paul
Strangemoo
All the best! I'll keep an eye out for your new products!
Sent from my Nexus 6 through tears in rain.
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After I try the lite version of it, I bought the full version without thinking, it was just too great! If you are tired of Polaris and haven't bought another office, definitely go try it, you will love it!
Great product. And its free on Getjar market.
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Great product. And its free on Getjar market.
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This is the 1st I have heard of Getjar. Do you know how they can offer Paid Apps for Free? Is this site safe to use?
Thanks
it is a Lithuania based market that is not always the most honest in terms of making sure apps listed there are properly paid for. i dont know anything about the actual safety of the apps.
It's completely safe, all paid apps are uploaded by the devs themselves.
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It's completely safe, all paid apps are uploaded by the devs themselves.
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The devs post their paid app there for free download? That sounds nonsense to me
This app is neat. Even lets me sync dropbox. Pretty handy! I just need my dock and a mouse to go w/ it soon!
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The devs post their paid app there for free download? That sounds nonsense to me
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Getjar is based on an advertisement model. App developers get paid by posting their paid apps on getjar, and other developers pay (i.e. sponsor) to gain advertisement space on every page.
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Q12) So what is the GetJar business model? Is it profitable?
The majority of revenues come from sponsored apps, where developers pay to have their applications prioritized in special section. The developer bids for downloads on GetJar. Depending on region, category and platform, bids vary from US $0.01 to $1 per download. GetJar also has fixed placement advertising, but this is a very small part of the business. And yes, GetJar is profitable.
Source: http://mobithinking.com/getjar
It's a shame Google didn't go with this business model.
Looks pretty nice, but IMO they could've made it a lot easier to use. It's annoying that you can't make something Bold/Italic/Underlined or change the font until after you've written something..
This basically goes for all the Offices Suites on the Android market: Why can't you make it more MS Office like, with all the different options on a bar at the top of the page?
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Getjar is based on an advertisement model. App developers get paid by posting their paid apps on getjar, and other developers pay (i.e. sponsor) to gain advertisement space on every page.
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Q12) So what is the GetJar business model? Is it profitable?
The majority of revenues come from sponsored apps, where developers pay to have their applications prioritized in special section. The developer bids for downloads on GetJar. Depending on region, category and platform, bids vary from US $0.01 to $1 per download. GetJar also has fixed placement advertising, but this is a very small part of the business. And yes, GetJar is profitable.
Source: http://mobithinking.com/getjar
It's a shame Google didn't go with this business model.
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ic, thats a pretty good way to earn money
OstiasMoscas said:
Looks pretty nice, but IMO they could've made it a lot easier to use. It's annoying that you can't make something Bold/Italic/Underlined or change the font until after you've written something..
This basically goes for all the Offices Suites on the Android market: Why can't you make it more MS Office like, with all the different options on a bar at the top of the page?
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Office Suite Pro 5 has a toolbar like Word - with Bold, Italics, Underline, Left/Centre/Right alignment, numbering, bulleting, highlighting and font colour - and its accessible all the time. However, it doesn't have the Print Layout view like Smart Office and it doesn't display equations and numbers as well as Smart Office.
If I could take the features of all these office programs and combine them.... (I'd pay for someone to do that)
It works pretty well on Prime but sometimes it makes my tablet goes nuts and I have to reboot it. Do you have the same issue around that ?
With this one, if you are editing a .docx file will you be able to save it as a .docx?
OstiasMoscas said:
Looks pretty nice, but IMO they could've made it a lot easier to use. It's annoying that you can't make something Bold/Italic/Underlined or change the font until after you've written something..
This basically goes for all the Offices Suites on the Android market: Why can't you make it more MS Office like, with all the different options on a bar at the top of the page?
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That's the first thing I thought. It's like giving someone directions and saying "Turn left 1 mile before you get to the fork in the road".
Not sure if this is the right forum.
I've created my first app, just a simple card game. I'm wondering if I should offer a paid ad-free version.
Right now its free with Admob. About 2500 active installs out of about 9000 total installs. It took about 1mo to get the first third, the 5mo for the second third, and 2.5mo for the last third. I've found that I get alot more new users whenever I have any sort of update to my app. With Ads, I've made about $1400 in about 9.5 months from 2.6M requests. Since its a game with ads, the longer a user plays, the more ads get shown and the more money I make.
If I have a paid version, I get a one time payment and then zero after that. I don't see charging more than a dollar or two. If I charged $1 and everyone that downloaded it bought it, I'd have $1750 and then thats it. If I waited a few months I'll have that much from ads.
It seems like I'm going to make much more just sticking with the ads. I'm new to all of this, am I missing something or does my logic seem sound.
Do an adfree version. Some of us don't like ads may I ask what app you made?
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Not sure if this is the right forum.
I've created my first app, just a simple card game. I'm wondering if I should offer a paid ad-free version.
Right now its free with Admob. About 2500 active installs out of about 9000 total installs. It took about 1mo to get the first third, the 5mo for the second third, and 2.5mo for the last third. I've found that I get alot more new users whenever I have any sort of update to my app. With Ads, I've made about $1400 in about 9.5 months from 2.6M requests. Since its a game with ads, the longer a user plays, the more ads get shown and the more money I make.
If I have a paid version, I get a one time payment and then zero after that. I don't see charging more than a dollar or two. If I charged $1 and everyone that downloaded it bought it, I'd have $1750 and then thats it. If I waited a few months I'll have that much from ads.
It seems like I'm going to make much more just sticking with the ads. I'm new to all of this, am I missing something or does my logic seem sound.
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You're right ads are the way to go. Do you have any methods of sharing the app? That will bring more users and that means more income from ads.
Edit: I offer professional mobile marketing consulting if you're interested.
Questions should be asked in Q&A forums, not Development forums.
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This is the app I made: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rcs.video_poker_trainer_dw
I actually made 3 apps but the code is 99% the same.
I've gotten some useful comments in the reviews but also some very confusing ones (like the last one)
Sharing? The app is on the market. I figure that's the best way to share it.
So far the biggest annoyance has been working with the layouts and getting them to look right on as many phones as possible.
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This is the app I made: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rcs.video_poker_trainer_dw
I actually made 3 apps but the code is 99% the same.
I've gotten some useful comments in the reviews but also some very confusing ones (like the last one)
Sharing? The app is on the market. I figure that's the best way to share it.
So far the biggest annoyance has been working with the layouts and getting them to look right on as many phones as possible.
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Yes sharing. By just putting on the market you are doing passive marketing. By switching to active marketing you can get a higher number of active users and a higher income from ads.
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I'm a fellow Nexus 10 owner. I love my device, but I'm a bit tired of facing applications that are low-resolution and unoptimized for the incredible display we have on the Nexus 10. Even tablet-optimized apps are lacking. Aren't you frustrated? Hence, I thought we could do something about it as a community.
Which is the purpose of this thread!
Here's how it will work. This first post will serve as a compilation of all the petitions made to any and all developers to optimize their applications for tablets, and also the Nexus 10's display. Any subsequent posts in this thread shall be for petition requests and discussion, which I will personally put together and post up to the petition site being used for this purpose (Care2 as of this thread's posting). I will then add a direct link to that petition to this thread, sorted by category. Feel free to make any suggestions or to criticize! I will also start us off with a petition I have already created myself: to the developers of the Bloons TD series of games, Ninja Kiwi.
I'll try to keep things simple! Keep on topic, please, and try your best to sign each and every petition. Its the only way we'll be able to actually push developers to optimize their applications for tablets like ours! So, without further ado, let us begin!
Petition List
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Bloons TD 5 - Optimize Bloons TD 5 for Android Tablets
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Facebook - Optimize Facebook for Android Tablets
Instagram - Optimize Instagram for Android Tablets
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This is likely Google's job, not ours. In any event, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter are three that immediately spring to mind. Not because they are low resolution -- not sure what you mean there -- but because the layouts are so clearly designed for smaller screens. I shouldn't have to opt for Friendcaster, Tabstagram, and Plume.
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This is likely Google's job, not ours. In any event, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter are three that immediately spring to mind. Not because they are low resolution -- not sure what you mean there -- but because the layouts are so clearly designed for smaller screens. I shouldn't have to opt for Friendcaster, Tabstagram, and Plume.
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No, it's the app devs job. The point of this is to show them that there is a need for this to be done by enough of their user base to merit the work hours it will take them to implement it. What they don't know ends up hurting us. It is actually an excellent idea.
A dedicated Facebook app should be a priority. My mate has an iPad and I found myself looking longingly at the sickness of the dedicated app. Something needs to be done to put a stop to this sick perversion!
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This is likely Google's job, not ours.
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I would tend to agree with Brees on this one, which you could probably guess. I think Brees put it excellently!
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No, it's the app devs job. The point of this is to show them that there is a need for this to be done by enough of their user base to merit the work hours it will take them to implement it. What they don't know ends up hurting us. It is actually an excellent idea.
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Its the job of the application developers to get out proper apps. Google has done TONS of work already. Now we need to show these guys that we, the users, actually care about proper tablet applications, and that it is worth the investment.
Thats why I created this thread - if we don't do something about it, no-one will! I'm going to try to get as many signatures as possible, and I'm going to spread this thread across multiple forums if necessary. AndroidTablets.net springs to mind.
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A dedicated Facebook app should be a priority. My mate has an iPad and I found myself looking longingly at the sickness of the dedicated app. Something needs to be done to put a stop to this sick perversion!
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Exactly! I'm tired of this sort of thing. This needs to be put to a stop. I'll create the petition.
Like previously said all those social apps need optimization for sure. And the xda app needs optimization. I think there's an HD version but it costs money
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No, it's the app devs job. The point of this is to show them that there is a need for this to be done by enough of their user base to merit the work hours it will take them to implement it. What they don't know ends up hurting us. It is actually an excellent idea.
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CWalkop said:
I would tend to agree with Brees on this one, which you could probably guess. I think Brees put it excellently!Its the job of the application developers to get out proper apps. Google has done TONS of work already. Now we need to show these guys that we, the users, actually care about proper tablet applications, and that it is worth the investment.
Thats why I created this thread - if we don't do something about it, no-one will! I'm going to try to get as many signatures as possible, and I'm going to spread this thread across multiple forums if necessary. AndroidTablets.net springs to mind.
Exactly! I'm tired of this sort of thing. This needs to be put to a stop. I'll create the petition.
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You'll excuse me if I seem overly cynical about this. I used to be a BlackBerry user. Well over two years ago, some folks on Crackberry launched a campaign to bombard Reid Hastings, the president of Netflix, with email to get Netflix on the BlackBerry platform (the OS 6 devices like the Torch had then fairly recently come out). If you are familiar with Crackberry, you know that they are a rabid, fanatical horde. Nothing happened. Then came the petitions -- change.org and the like. They are still going on more than two years plus later, and despite the fact that BlackBerry now has quite decent phones and a decent OS in BB10, there is still no Netflix on the platform.
EDIT: Holy! I already have 4 signatures for Facebook on Android Tablets and I haven't even posted it anywhere yet! That shows something.
C'mon guys, I'll post it up in the main thread. Vote for it now!
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You'll excuse me if I seem overly cynical about this. I used to be a BlackBerry user. Well over two years ago, some folks on Crackberry launched a campaign to bombard Reid Hastings, the president of Netflix, with email to get Netflix on the BlackBerry platform (the OS 6 devices like the Torch had then fairly recently come out). If you are familiar with Crackberry, you know that they are a rabid, fanatical horde. Nothing happened. Then came the petitions -- change.org and the like. They are still going on more than two years plus later, and despite the fact that BlackBerry now has quite decent phones and a decent OS in BB10, there is still no Netflix on the platform.
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I think your points make sense, but they aren't a valid reason really to cause Netflix to develop for BB10. The marketshare simply isn't there.
With Android, however, the market has shown that it is a valid platform (and I hate to say that as if it was an option - c'mon. ANDROID IS AWESOME! ); it makes sense for them to update, and it only helps us out. We need to show them that we actually CARE. If they understand that, then they will update for us without question. If they have any business sense, that is.
Same with BB10 (which is, quite frankly, a very nice OS - it even has NFC Beaming support between BB and Android devices). If they had the market AND Crackberry screaming like it was/is, they would get a proper app quite quickly.
This deserved a quick update post: the petitions for Facebook and Instagram are now online. Facebook already has a few votes!
I just signed Facebook one.
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What's the address part for?
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What's the address part for?
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So that you can be stalked lol. No need to put you real address I made one up and it didn't even check if it was right
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What's the address part for?
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Yeah, what abdel said lol.
Its mostly to confirm that you're a real person with a real place to live, that kinda stuff.
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EDIT: Holy! I already have 4 signatures for Facebook on Android Tablets and I haven't even posted it anywhere yet! That shows something.
C'mon guys, I'll post it up in the main thread. Vote for it now!
I think your points make sense, but they aren't a valid reason really to cause Netflix to develop for BB10. The marketshare simply isn't there.
With Android, however, the market has shown that it is a valid platform (and I hate to say that as if it was an option - c'mon. ANDROID IS AWESOME! ); it makes sense for them to update, and it only helps us out. We need to show them that we actually CARE. If they understand that, then they will update for us without question. If they have any business sense, that is.
Same with BB10 (which is, quite frankly, a very nice OS - it even has NFC Beaming support between BB and Android devices). If they had the market AND Crackberry screaming like it was/is, they would get a proper app quite quickly.
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BB's problem is definitely rooted in market share, something that Android in general obviously has no problem with. But the numbers dwindle considerably when you're talking about Android tablet market share, and then on top of that, you've got to consider how many Android tablet users really care that there are some apps that are just scaled up phone versions. Apple cared enough to do something about it -- remember that was one of the criticisms of the first iPad, i.e., that it seemed just like a oversized iPod. Google has not been responsive on this front (nor on others for that matter).
Anyway, I don't want to discourage anyone, so have at it.
Signed them all and subscribed to thread, will check daily to check for new petitions
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BB's problem is definitely rooted in market share, something that Android in general obviously has no problem with. But the numbers dwindle considerably when you're talking about Android tablet market share, and then on top of that, you've got to consider how many Android tablet users really care that there are some apps that are just scaled up phone versions. Apple cared enough to do something about it -- remember that was one of the criticisms of the first iPad, i.e., that it seemed just like a oversized iPod. Google has not been responsive on this front (nor on others for that matter).
Anyway, I don't want to discourage anyone, so have at it.
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Don't worry, you're not discouraging (me, at least).
Android Tablet market share has been steadily on the rise - in fact, it rivals the iPad. According to many statistics, they are slated to pass (if they have not already) Apple devices in tablet market share by the 3rd quarter. I listed 3 (or 4?) links in all of the petitions.
As for Google, they have been doing a great job lately. They added dedicated tablet sections to Google Play, and have been pushing developers to adhere to the guidelines constantly. I say keep up that pressure!
lvnatic said:
Signed them all and subscribed to thread, will check daily to check for new petitions
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Thanks! We need more people like you here. Keep it up!
As for everyone else, keep an eye out for new petitions; and, most importantly of all:
SIGN THEM!!!!
We have hundreds of views on this thread, yet most people don't seem to want to take 60 seconds and sign the petitions, oddly enough. And this is a Nexus 10 forum. Keep it up, anyway! We CAN do this with enough time.
Signed them all
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One of these days I plan to actually try to learn some Android development; I'll be sure to make whatever apps I make optimized for the N10 though :good:
hello friends, i have published my second app on google play.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.awlabs.gta5cheats
pls take some time to download it and rate it..and tell me from when i should start monetizing my app..?
thanks ..
ankur.walia said:
hello friends, i have published my second app on google play.
pls take some time to download it and rate it..and tell me from when i should start monetizing my app..?
thanks ..
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No, you should not. If you want to earn money from android application development, think about making a killer app. Try making something that you never seen before.
But always remember : You should always start small; make your app simple , intuitive.
nerroSS said:
No, you should not. If you want to earn money from android application development, think about making a killer app. Try making something that you never seen before.
But always remember : You should always start small; make your app simple , intuitive.
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hey...thanks for replying..
actually i am still studying ( i am in college) and make these apps in my leisure time..so i am not hoping to get huge amount of money..
i was thinking if i could get enough money just to cover up my expenses like hostel and other stuffs..
ankur.walia said:
hey...thanks for replying..
actually i am still studying ( i am in college) and make these apps in my leisure time..so i am not hoping to get huge amount of money..
i was thinking if i could get enough money just to cover up my expenses like hostel and other stuffs..
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If you want to learn some money, think about making a game.
Simple, small, not so complicated. Maybe a kid's game sounds good? Something 2D or 3D , doesn't matter.
I know it could take long , but it's worth it.
Editos #1: Remember : Always start small, don't get too bulky and complicated. You can always add features to the games by updates.
I understand we students are always short of money and earning our own extra money is always cool . But you must also understand how people look for paid apps. If you make a simple app (in terms of functionality or graphics what ever it is), people doesnt feel like paying for it. As neroSS said, start small, new, intuitive, innovative and attractive and finally! Promoting it! Nobody knows you have done a app without promotion and xda does it for us for free!
TIP: Never re-produce something which has already been done. It doesnt attract more users. But you can always try them for learning purpose.
I would also be careful with using registered trademarks in your app (which GTA for sure is).
mkrstudio said:
I would also be careful with using registered trademarks in your app (which GTA for sure is).
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That's a really good point.
Also, look for another way to monetize your app, for example using ads, or making two versions of it (free - pro). Generally in Android, a user only pays for a very good app.
Hope it helps.
I don't see a point in having this application if you could easily just search online for them without the app. Thanks for the contribution regardless.
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Hi everyone,
I have been testing Slidejoy for a month now and I think it deserves to be shared. I know not everyone can stand having ads on their phone, but I really didn't find it intrusive. I tested various other advertisement apps, and this one is my favourite so far.
Here is the concept : The app creates a lockscreen (I deactivated my android lockscreen otherwise I have two) and displays ads on it. You don't have to click or read anything, you just swype to the right and it disappears. By doing that, you gain littles diamonds every day (I made 350 this month) and the next month, they become bankable (100=1$). You can choose to be paid on Paypal but there are others solutions.
Here is a screenshot of the lockscreen (it's in french for me but you can put it in english) :
(click to see a larger image)
I hope some of you like the app, I personally am very satisfied with it. Here is a subscribe link if you want to help me get some diamonds getslidejoy.com/r/EVgg8?id=1 :fingers-crossed:
3,50 $ (less than 3 €) for a whole month watching ads... Well, no.
Zwulf said:
3,50 $ (less than 3 €) for a whole month watching ads... Well, no.
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I totally understand that point of view, but I think you should give it a little bit more perspective. When you are browsing on the internet, even though you might use an adblocker, you still see a hell of a lot of sponsored contents, and you see it for free.
Now I know some people love their lockscreen and they wouldn't change it for some bucks. But considering the amount of advertisement everyone of us sees every day, getting 3,5$ a month (42$ a year, that pays two months of mobile communication for me) sounds like a pretty good deal
Love the concept, but prefer battery life over the money.
kekwowse01 said:
Love the concept, but prefer battery life over the money.
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Well, there's not much to worry about regarding the battery, I did'nt notice any drain and when I check the battery stats, it's never above 3-4%
What could be more annoying is data consumption, and I can't say anything about that because I have a big plan (50Gb LTE), so I never check
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I totally understand that point of view, but I think you should give it a little bit more perspective. When you are browsing on the internet, even though you might use an adblocker, you still see a hell of a lot of sponsored contents, and you see it for free.
Now I know some people love their lockscreen and they wouldn't change it for some bucks. But considering the amount of advertisement everyone of us sees every day, getting 3,5$ a month (42$ a year, that pays two months of mobile communication for me) sounds like a pretty good deal
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Not for me. I would love to see less advertising... All this trash surrounding me everyday. A city for me is a living space not a surface to place ads. Too much ads disrupting the place we live everywhere I don't get anything for, but have to look at this ugly trash anytime. I won't add those ads to those little spaces where I gladly don't get spammed by ads. For just a few cents. Just no.
Still everyone should do how he/she likes but for me personally I find it kinda scary to see people voluntarily exposing themselves to such stimulus satiation (which is even causing serious mental injuries to not only a few people btw.) everywhere they go and look at. It would be much nicer to see more trees than more ads. Ads just make me sick and I'd love to see not one single ad anywhere... These few bucks aren't worth it (one whole year watching these ads isn't even enough for the weekly shopping at the mall once... and you call this a good deal? Really?). A very low price for invading and disrupting your private spaces.
Still, as already mentioned, everyone is free to do what he/she wants...
Zwulf said:
Not for me. I would love to see less advertising... All this trash surrounding me everyday. A city for me is a living space not a surface to place ads. Too much ads disrupting the place we live everywhere I don't get anything for, but have to look at this ugly trash anytime. I won't add those ads to those little spaces where I gladly don't get spammed by ads. For just a few cents. Just no.
Still everyone should do how he/she likes but for me personally I find it kinda scary to see people voluntarily exposing themselves to such stimulus satiation (which is even causing serious mental injuries to not only a few people btw.) everywhere they go and look at. It would be much nicer to see more trees than more ads. Ads just make me sick and I'd love to see not one single ad anywhere... These few bucks aren't worth it (one whole year watching these ads isn't even enough for the weekly shopping at the mall once... and you call this a good deal? Really?). A very low price for invading and disrupting your private spaces.
Still, as already mentioned, everyone is free to do what he/she wants...
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Waow OK hum I was just here to share the app though LOL
One person signed up (thank you!) so it wasn't useless!
What did u get out of it?
moody5ausage said:
What did u get out of it?
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Really works made $15 in a few months, free money for doing nothing, why not have it installed
McGuigew said:
Hi everyone,
I have been testing Slidejoy for a month now and I think it deserves to be shared. I know not everyone can stand having ads on their phone, but I really didn't find it intrusive. I tested various other advertisement apps, and this one is my favourite so far.
Here is the concept : The app creates a lockscreen (I deactivated my android lockscreen otherwise I have two) and displays ads on it. You don't have to click or read anything, you just swype to the right and it disappears. By doing that, you gain littles diamonds every day (I made 350 this month) and the next month, they become bankable (100=1$). You can choose to be paid on Paypal but there are others solutions.
Here is a screenshot of the lockscreen (it's in french for me but you can put it in english) :
(click to see a larger image)
I hope some of you like the app, I personally am very satisfied with it. Here is a subscribe link if you want to help me get some diamonds getslidejoy.com/r/EVgg8?id=1 :fingers-crossed:
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I will give it a go. Cheers ?
Here is the link for others to sign up:
getslidejoy.com/r/EVgg8?id=1
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It says 1000 diamond is a dollar not 100… . pff…
ok, you told us about 3 euro/month. i could appreciate, but consider:
1)more battery drain, so you have to charge your phone few times more, so much more electricity.
2)spam on you phone
3)other app with permissions installed
4)privacy less than before
markurt30 said:
ok, you told us about 3 euro/month. i could appreciate, but consider:
1)more battery drain, so you have to charge your phone few times more, so much more electricity.
2)spam on you phone
3)other app with permissions installed
4)privacy less than before
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Always a catch too free money!
sisqoboy said:
I will give it a go. Cheers
Here is the link for others to sign up:
getslidejoy.com/r/EVgg8?id=1
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It says 1000 diamond is a dollar not 100… . pff…
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Hey, yeah indeed but you also earn ten times more now
I don't why they decided to change that, but it's just the same x10
markurt30 said:
ok, you told us about 3 euro/month. i could appreciate, but consider:
1)more battery drain, so you have to charge your phone few times more, so much more electricity.
2)spam on you phone
3)other app with permissions installed
4)privacy less than before
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1) The additional drain on your battery should'nt even be noticeable... less than 5%
2) Spam yes, indeed, that' the principle of it all...
3) I did not get shocked with permissions it asked for
4) There's no privacy on an android device ahah
Just a little update regarding the money, I do little surveys sometimes and I happen to make more than 3 euros now, more like 10 per month. I made roughly 50 euros since the beginning of 2016 no regrets!
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1) The additional drain on your battery should'nt even be noticeable... less than 5%
2) Spam yes, indeed, that' the principle of it all...
3) I did not get shocked with permissions it asked for
4) There's no privacy on an android device ahah
Just a little update regarding the money, I do little surveys sometimes and I happen to make more than 3 euros now, more like 10 per month. I made roughly 50 euros since the beginning of 2016 no regrets!
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Nothing wrong with a bit of extra coin I made another $3 this month with zero effort
Possible workaround for this app
So I have also had this app for a while and I see a lot of potential with it. I was wondering if it was possible(via app or some other way) to lock your screen without actually turning off your phone.
Pressing the power button to lock it will turn off or sleep your phone*
So basically if there is a way to press something and go straight to the lockscreen without worrying about it turning off or sleeping.