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Regarding HBOOT;
1.46 and 1.47 can root, while 1.49 cannot, correct?
Regarding the rooting process;
Rooting the phone does not change the HBOOT version. The version originally on the phone will remain the same after root, this is assuming Ivan's guide has been used to root.
That is all, thanks in advance.
Anyone? I really don't want to take this to IRC ..
I believe this has already been discussed. Root is only acquired via "root image" no exploit has been found. Meaning old hboot can be rooted, new hboot can NOT. "From what info I know."
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From what I have read the old Hboot was never actually rooted. A root access copy was leaked, and that is how we got root.
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I believe this has already been discussed. Root is only acquired via "root image" no exploit has been found. Meaning old hboot can be rooted, new hboot can NOT. "From what info I know."
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From what I have read the old Hboot was never actually rooted. A root access copy was leaked, and that is how we got root.
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Are either of you developers?
Regardless, if this hold true and the rooting process doesn't change your hboot version, I hold in my hand a miracle. I have a 1.49 Eris that's been rooted when it was on 1.5.
I still don't fully understand the hboot version debate going on, but I do know that my hboot version reads 1.49.
Anyone else want to chime in and explain what's going on here? I'd appreciate it.
I am not a developer, but I have a rooted Eris with hboot 1.49. I rooted before the v3 leak came out. When jcase posted the rooted rom I installed it. That's when my hboot changed. I never lost root, and my hboot was upgraded.
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.mak: The rooted roms are all running bootloader 1.47.
Leaked users are on 1.49.
So yes, to all of your questions.
.mak: The rooted roms are all running bootloader 1.47.
Leaked users are on 1.49.
So yes, to all of your questions.
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Unless you had root and installed Jcase's leakbase4rom. Then you would have root and 1.49.
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.mak said:
Are either of you developers?
Regardless, if this hold true and the rooting process doesn't change your hboot version, I hold in my hand a miracle. I have a 1.49 Eris that's been rooted when it was on 1.5.
I still don't fully understand the hboot version debate going on, but I do know that my hboot version reads 1.49.
Anyone else want to chime in and explain what's going on here? I'd appreciate it.
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I am not a dev, but I will link you to the explanation from a dev. Framework43 explains it well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6604000&postcount=13
*Edit: Oops, sorry .mak I just saw your reply in that thread. Lolz.
As it turns out, to those who didn't click the link above, the rooting process changes your HBOOT to 1.49 S-OFF, which is an engineering SPL, which is how we're able to install custom images to the Eris.
So, in short, my phone is not a miracle, it's just another rooted Eris, and my questions have been answered
So given your question. Does that mean that you can root, force s-off by following guide "backup before you root"?
Regarding HBOOT;
1.46 and 1.47 can root, while 1.49 cannot, correct?
Regarding the rooting process;
Rooting the phone does not change the HBOOT version. The version originally on the phone will remain the same after root, this is assuming Ivan's guide has been used to root.
That is all, thanks in advance.
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Late reply, I'm not a dev, still in the process of learning how to program.
Dear fellow XDA members,
I am in need of some assistance. I just got my HTC EVO VIEW 4G and unfortunately, I accidentally upgraded to Android 3.2 HoneyComb without doing the Revolutionary S-OFF, so currently I did an HTC Dev unlock on my View but it still says "EXPRESS PVT SHIP S-ON RL" and it also updated the "HBOOT-1.14.0005." I tried checking out Revolutionary website and it does not support HBOOT-1.14.0005, so I was wondering what can I do? Do I need S-OFF for anything? I currently have Clockwork Mod installed on my View but it still has S-ON so I was scared about flashing ROMS. I am trying to flash Desensed 1.5 but is scared that I need S-OFF to do so... Can anyone chime in to help me please...
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
PS: BTW, I been searching and reading and rereading.... I just don't understand..
1) You'll need to downgrade to GB
2) you'll then need to run revolutionary for S-OFF
3) you can then re-upgrade to HC S-OFF
You might be able to use the information provided here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1418258
This sems like a pretty cool thing, will it work for the flyer? if not, is there a tool like this for the flyer?
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This sems like a pretty cool thing, will it work for the flyer? if not, is there a tool like this for the flyer?
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I don't think there is anything in the tool, that globatron hasn't already written a guide for on the Flyer. And none of them are hard to do. Anything particular you are trying to do?
ive done the OTA update, and then unlocked using HTC-DEV method becasue my HBOOT is 11.11.0011 and revolutionary didnt liost that hboot as being compatible. Ive been able to install a revolutionary Clockwork mod nad then went ahead and flashed LeeDriods ROM. But now it just starts up with the R2D2 sounds, boots a little and restarts.
Ive been reading and I think it either needs to flashed from fastboot or need to downgrade to GB and relevant hboot.
Also even though I have unlocked the bootlaoder from htc-dev it still says "s-on"?
I'm in the same boat. My flyer is
Hboot 1.11.001
OTA to HC
Unlocked the bootloader using HTC method
Load CW recovery.
Can I just follow the directions to down grade?
sorry to ask people for help again.. but there are alot of guides for unlocking/downgrading/flashing etc. could someone just point me in the right direction of one guide that is applicable to my particular case?
thank you.
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sorry to ask people for help again.. but there are alot of guides for unlocking/downgrading/flashing etc. could someone just point me in the right direction of one guide that is applicable to my particular case?
thank you.
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I don't know why people keep coming on here and asking why they still have S-On after HTC Unlock. Its never been stated that HTC Unlock gets you S-Off, it just gives you an unlocked bootloader, which is not the same thing.
If you want real S-Off, downgrade and root using globatron's guide:
htthttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307759p://
Then you can upgrade back to HC if you want using the following guide (also by globatron, becuase he's the man). You will also need to have the HC Hboot if you want to flash a HC custom ROM, which is also described in the following guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358758
If you want to flash a custom ROM without getting S-Off, from my understanding you can do so using fastboot. But I haven't seen any step-by-step guide. You might start reading here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1482998
redpoint73 said:
I don't know why people keep coming on here and asking why they still have S-On after HTC Unlock. Its never been stated that HTC Unlock gets you S-Off, it just gives you an unlocked bootloader, which is not the same thing.
If you want real S-Off, downgrade and root using globatron's guide:
htthttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307759p://
Then you can upgrade back to HC if you want using the following guide (also by globatron, becuase he's the man). You will also need to have the HC Hboot if you want to flash a HC custom ROM, which is also described in the following guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358758
If you want to flash a custom ROM without getting S-Off, from my understanding you can do so using fastboot. But I haven't seen any step-by-step guide. You might start reading here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1482998
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It might be just me but I don't see anything in these guides with anything to downgrade the hboot on 16gb Flyer to gain compatibility with Rev. root method. It is not for me personally but seems others here are having that issue. With those newer hboot versions is there even anything that can be done at this time?
My understanding is that when unlocked with HTC dev you can flash recovery then adb push gb hboot while in recovery then run appropriate gb ruu. Once on gb rev s off then update to hc s off
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CCallahan said:
It might be just me but I don't see anything in these guides with anything to downgrade the hboot on 16gb Flyer to gain compatibility with Rev. root method. It is not for me personally but seems others here are having that issue. With those newer hboot versions is there even anything that can be done at this time?
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Sorry, I botched the link to the downgrade guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307759
Or are there still GB Hboot versions not supported by Revolutionary?
Help With Boot!
Hello,
I have installed the ROM on my EVO 3D trhough Clockworkmod's latest version. I am Unlocked on HBOOT 1.50. However, almost every ICS Rom I install, INCLUDING this one, when it reboots, it stays frozen on the HTC Screen with the green HTC lettering, and the White Background, and does nothing. How can i get rid of this? what do I need to do? PLEASE HELP!
Moved to proper forum.
With hboot 1.5. Go into fastboot and do fastboot boot recover img.img with whatever recovery yoyr using with sdk then install rom
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Get S-off. The ICS ROM's don't flash well with 1.5 s-on. In fact, almost every person who flashes an ICS Rom that is 1.5 s-on has this issue. Getting s-off is pretty easy to do now. See the stickies in the GSM or CDMA development thread (depending on your phone).
Also, I recommend posting questions in the Q&A section when you need help.
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coal686 said:
Get S-off. The ICS ROM's don't flash well with 1.5 s-on. In fact, almost every person who flashes an ICS Rom that is 1.5 s-on has this issue. Getting s-off is pretty easy to do now. See the stickies in the GSM or CDMA development thread (depending on your phone).
Also, I recommend posting questions in the Q&A section when you need help.
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Can you please post the link to the instructions or guide? As i said, all i have done on the device so far is gained root access trough HTCDEV.com. So it is just "unlocked". What should i do then? and is it one of these: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24530433#post24530433
Thanks!
Tell me if it fixed it
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spbobpilot said:
Can you please post the link to the instructions or guide? As i said, all i have done on the device so far is gained root access trough HTCDEV.com. So it is just "unlocked". What should i do then? and is it one of these: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24530433#post24530433
Thanks!
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That's it! I was on my phone earlier or I would have posted it, but it looks like you didn't need me to . I did mine using the method in my signature, but I think the wire trick that you posted is easier from what I have read. Good luck.
It worked great! thanks to all
Im currently s-on unlocked running Clean rom 4.5 developers edition and my hboot version is 2.10 with the GB patch. I've been thinking about attempting s-off but so far the one step I need to figure out is how to get back to a stock gb or ics rom (prerequisite to performing s-off I believe)
What are my options here? Do I need to re-lock my phone, run a ruu, then unlock again?
Is there a zip file I can flash to get a stock rom loaded without re-locking then unlocking?
Any help or advice is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance!
Jbear s-off wants a stock rooted phone because it is too much for their tech support people to deal with all the many ROMs in existence.
A Rom that is close to stock like cleanrom has a good chance of working with the jbear s-off process, but I do not know for sure.
Since you have gingerbread firmware, you should use the gingerbread rezound jbear download, IF you decide to attempt it.
On the other hand we have official ics now, and you might as well move onto it rather than using gingerbread firmware and a ROM that will never get updated because the author moved on to buy a different smart phone.
The ics ruu will do a factory reset and wipe the internal sdcard. The removable microSD card should be left untouched. you will need to relock the bootloader to run the ruu, but it easy to relock with hansoon's all in one toolkit if you have saved your htcdev.com unlock bin file.
Here is the official ics ruu file, if you decide to install it.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...cream-sandwich-ruu-for-final-ota-3-14-605-12/
regards,
Howard
Thanks for the response! I've downloaded the ruu for ics & I still have the htc unlock code. I will give this a try hopefully this weekend
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Is juniperbear working on a S-Off file for the newest RUU 4.03.605.2 or should we just use the 3.14 to get S-off then install the newest RUU 4.03
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Is juniperbear working on a S-Off file for the newest RUU 4.03.605.2 or should we just use the 3.14 to get S-off then install the newest RUU 4.03
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I was on 605.2 when I used juniperbear's method.
I recommend using an insulated paper clip. I got s-off after 2 tries on my wife's phone.
Which download from juopuntobear did you use with the 605.2 ics?
It doesn't look like it is supported on their site...
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I was on 605.2 when I used juniperbear's method.
I recommend using an insulated paper clip. I got s-off after 2 tries on my wife's phone.
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I tried a paperclip and it would not take. I ended up using a piece of 20 gauge wire from an old RC battery pack. Worked then.
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Anyone? Which jupontobear download do you use with the latest 605.2 ics?
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Anyone? Which jupontobear download do you use with the latest 605.2 ics?
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the one for ics .5
Perfect, I will make sure to download that one when trying this.
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Alright, I got my refurb, and have unlocked it. It has the .12 Firmware. I can't find a simple way to root the new firmware. Nils 1 click root isn't helping. What can i do to root it. I have Amonra Recovery, and stock rom..Any help is appreciated.
Download superSU and flash in amonra. You should be good to go.
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I had been reading so many different guides that I was suffering from information overload. I couldn't believe I overlooked something so simple. Thanks for the,quick reply, and it shows it doesn't take someone with a lot of posts to help someone who usually is a old hat at this.
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confused semi-noob, please help
Currently running rezrom ex v.3.4 with ics 3.11.605.22. I have seen this question asked a few times in different places throughout the forum but am still a little unsure as to what is best or whether it matters at all. I've heard it is best to return to stock rom before attempting s-off but I've also heard that others with my rom have not had any problems. So if I s-off with my current rom, and it works, I will still have root and be able to flash the most current ruu, right? Where as if I were to try to flash the most current ruu now, I would have to first relock the bootloader, then once on the new ruu, I would have to unlock from htcdev again and flash amon ra again and re-root before being able to s-off. If I have this right, then there is no real downside (besides it possibly not working) to trying to s-off now with my current rom. In fact, it would be less time consuming and less confusing, correct? I've been trying to read everything possible on getting my phone to s-off, but I think at this point, I'm just getting more confused with the more I read.
I wish I had an answer for you. Im in the same boat as you, read a lot, still confused.
I think im in boat number two, re lock, flash newest ics ruu, unlock, try to s-off, but what im not 100% sure of is which juopuntobear to download & use.
Post back in the thread if you are able to s-off with the rom your running. Maybe I will try with the rom im running & just say screw it.
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You are supposed to use the version that is current with the ruu that your running. For instance, mine is the early ics leak. If you update to a more current ruu when reverting to stock, you should choose one that jb made a exploit for (v. 3.13..., or 3.14...). Of course, I'm still semi-noon so this is just my best educated guess from my studying of these forums. I would be very grateful if one of the devs would correct me though... Please.
i did it!
So I decided to s-off with my current Rom installed. It worked but my phone didn't recognize my ext sd. I tried all the fixes available and nothing worked, so instead, I flashed the newest ruu. That fixed my problem but I didn't have recovery anymore. I found a ph98img for an older version of amon ra and replaced the IMG file in the zip with a recent version and edited the text file to show my current mainver. I flashed the new ph98img rough bootloader and now have amon ra and was able to flash a new Rom. The reason I used a ph98img was because I was no longer around a pc to flash it through fastboot. It all worked great but took a bit of time.
Nice! Glad it all worked out. I guess I would need to download juopuntobear for gb & try that.maybe I will give it a try.
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Bought phone today and got home and noticed the hbpot. I'm a flashoholic! What the hell should I do now??? Just HTC dev unlock I guess?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940512
this is an excellent option, it work for me and many others.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940512
this is an excellent option, it work for me and many others.
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Thanks man. So do you think they are working towards a windows based solution? Or is linux the exploit?
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Thanks man. So do you think they are working towards a windows based solution? Or is linux the exploit?
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if you read through the op you will see they do not plan on making a windows version and they also explain why
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Thanks to you as well. Ok. The instructions are a little sparse. I have a small netbook currently running ubunto, I could use that? Also, I would root with regaw and htc method and then use netbook for rest of instructions.
read the first post in the thread, it does work just follow the instructions.
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read the first post in the thread, it does work just follow the instructions.
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OK. I got rooted with regawmod, then was successful in the downgrade to 1.12 hboot. Now I am stuck on trying to RUU to 2.13 from 1.22. I keep having it fail on updating though RUU. Is there any other way to get that done? Can I just flash Fresh 5.1.1? Or am i not able to because i'm not S-off???
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OK. I got rooted with regawmod, then was successful in the downgrade to 1.12 hboot. Now I am stuck on trying to RUU to 2.13 from 1.22. I keep having it fail on updating though RUU. Is there any other way to get that done? Can I just flash Fresh 5.1.1? Or am i not able to because i'm not S-off???
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Y don't u just do the lazypanda s-off now since you are stock. U don't need fresh rom to do it. The new base is installed when u install a new rom on the new base. Just flash radios separately which u can do once s-off or just being on 1.12 I believe.
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Y don't u just do the lazypanda s-off now since you are stock. U don't need fresh rom to do it. The new base is installed when u install a new rom on the new base. Just flash radios separately which u can do once s-off or just being on 1.12 I believe.
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Yeah but the instructions state to not do it with 1.22 (what i'm currently on) and only to do it with 1.13. Or am i mistaken?
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OK. I got rooted with regawmod, then was successful in the downgrade to 1.12 hboot. Now I am stuck on trying to RUU to 2.13 from 1.22. I keep having it fail on updating though RUU. Is there any other way to get that done? Can I just flash Fresh 5.1.1? Or am i not able to because i'm not S-off???
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Why would you downgrade hboot and then run ruu to install the latest hboot? If you downgraded to 1.12 you should have no problem running lazy panda. Am I missing something?
On unlimited's site it says the rom requirements to run lazy panda is 1.13 RUU. I was confused on that as well but it hasn't been successful. I'm currently 1.12 hboot with 1.22 software version. So at this point just run the lazy panda?
Someone in mac's development thread stated they were able to run lazy panda on 1.12. You should ask about it in that thread and see if anyone can help
i ran it out of the box no RUU just ran it
Was that you that mentioned it then? I was having a hard time remembering who mentioned it lol
WHOO HOO! I'm S-Off!!! Ok am I finally ready for customer roms etc and I guess i need to flash radios of course.
edit: Thanks guys!
Let me know what customer roms u install. Those sound interesting.
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Let me know what customer roms u install. Those sound interesting.
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Yes.......yes they are awesome. And I know where they are and I'm not sharing. Lol jerkface