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Ok so i bought the vibrant, unlocked it, and inserted my att 3g sim. the issue is im only getting edge speed when my phone is 3g capable. any ideas to correct that? Like creating an apn of some sort?
Thanx!
im about 50 percent sure that at&t and t-mob use different frequencys or something for their 3g signals so they are not compatable, same thing happend with the nexus one and its 3g on at&t if my memory is correct
bweed83 said:
im about 50 percent sure that at&t and t-mob use different frequencys or something for their 3g signals so they are not compatable, same thing happend with the nexus one and its 3g on at&t if my memory is correct
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I second this.
Agree. U need to swap it for samsung captiva. The att galaxy s.
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my only working theory is that the 1900mhz freq isnt as widespread as the 850mhz freq, as the vibrant uses 1900. (i think). so that may be it. but i ask only because some commenter on a diff forum mentioned the need to create a 3g apn.
ps. the captivate is too boxy for me. idk why att changed it
Those are at&&&-t frequencys tmob is 1700 and 2100 I think so if our antenna only picks up those iy wont ever work on at-t's network
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my only working theory is that the 1900mhz freq isnt as widespread as the 850mhz freq, as the vibrant uses 1900. (i think). so that may be it. but i ask only because some commenter on a diff forum mentioned the need to create a 3g apn.
ps. the captivate is too boxy for me. idk why att changed it
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It's not how widespread it is. They use different frequencies so your phone won't pick up the ATT 3G signals at all. Edge is 2G.
But I've seen one person on the forum claim that he did it. You can pm him/her on how to do it.
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The Vibrant is capable of AT&T's 3G over the 1900mhz spectrum... if you live in a area where AT&T is only using the 850mhz spec... you will not get 3G.
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Ok so i bought the vibrant, unlocked it, and inserted my att 3g sim. the issue is im only getting edge speed when my phone is 3g capable. any ideas to correct that? Like creating an apn of some sort?
Thanx!
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HEY, don't listen to these guys. You can get both wcdma 1900 and wcdma 850 on the vibrant, don't worry, you will be able to get at&t 3G on your phone!
I'll show you how when I have time, maybe this weekend.
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The Vibrant is capable of AT&T's 3G over the 1900mhz spectrum... if you live in a area where AT&T is only using the 850mhz spec... you will not get 3G.
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you gave the poor guy wrong information, the vibrant is capable of at&t 3g over 1900 AND 850
Having the same issue
I also am only getting Edge signal on my unlocked vibrant. When I run a 1MB speed test at mobilespeedtest.com it says I am downloading at 2581 kbps which, according to their chart, is a little more than the average 4g speed. Very weird. I also can't download any apps but I am searching for a thread on that.
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I also am only getting Edge signal on my unlocked vibrant. When I run a 1MB speed test at mobilespeedtest.com it says I am downloading at 2581 kbps which, according to their chart, is a little more than the average 4g speed. Very weird. I also can't download any apps but I am searching for a thread on that.
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i'm confused, you said you are getting edge signal, but your speed test shows 2.581mbps? thats 3g speeds.
by the way, you can make the vibrant pick up both att 1900 and 850 signals.
you own a bmw and you are a doctor?
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i'm confused, you said you are getting edge signal, but your speed test shows 2.581mbps? thats 3g speeds.
by the way, you can make the vibrant pick up both att 1900 and 850 signals.
you own a bmw and you are a doctor?
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I am on an unlocked Vibrant right now. I live in the baltimore area and I am getting full 3g on a friends borrowed att sim. I get faster speeds on his att than I get on my own tmobile.
When I unlocked my phone, I used the wife's SIM card on my Vibrant and was able to get 3G as well. It registered without any issues.
New york city is also all 1900mhz. I am chugging along at a healthy 4300kbps according to mobilespeedtest. I think that is faster than the 3g spec allows so I am starting to doubt that website a bit.
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New york city is also all 1900mhz. I am chugging along at a healthy 4300kbps according to mobilespeedtest. I think that is faster than the 3g spec allows so I am starting to doubt that website a bit.
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what website? you can also set the vibrant to pick up at&t's wcdma 850mhz
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HEY, don't listen to these guys. You can get both wcdma 1900 and wcdma 850 on the vibrant, don't worry, you will be able to get at&t 3G on your phone!
I'll show you how when I have time, maybe this weekend.
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HI,
Can you explain how you get UTMS / HSDPA 850 on the Vinrant? According to the specs at xda
It doesnt officially support that, but over at howard forums (sorry cant post lins as a new user):
1666323-USING-SAMSUNG-T-MOBILE-VIBRANT-T959-on-WIND-MOBILE.....IN-CANADA
it seems it is an option in the service menu. Have you tried UTMS850 (as opposed to GSM850) and can confirm it works. Its relevant in Australia as the best coverage NextG network (Telstra) operates on UTMS850
Cheers Chris.
Derp.....
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i'm not getting 3g either,
is there a link to a map to see if i have 1900 in my area?
what apn setting should be used, im pretty shocked that it did the edge APN settings on its own
Try dialing
*#2263#
choose option [4]Combi Bands
Choose option [8] WCDMA 850 bla bla
Choose Add WCDMA 850 bla bla
If the chip is capable to work in that frequency it will work. There are mixed reports but it is the way to fix it
[Q] Do we know the extent of the AT&T-friendly UMTS hardware in the T-Mobile Vibrant?
So as a lot of you know, the T-Mobile U.S. version of the Samsung Vibrant turned out to have hardware support for AT&T's 3G. But from reading user comments, it sounds like the T-Mobile Vibrant only has UMTS 1900, and not UMTS 850 as well. Obviously this isn't a problem if you've only got 1900 in your area, but I'm pretty sure we do have UMTS on 850 in my city.
I'm wondering if anyone with the T-Mobile Vibrant has tried using the extra 3G band(s?) and can confirm which are present. Is it 1900 and 850, or just 1900? Further, does anyone know how can I check to see which frequency AT&T provides 3G on in my city (short of relying on the clueless CSRs at my local retail store)? I've got a buddy with a Nexus One on AT&T, is there a quick way for him to see what frequency the UMTS tower he's connected to is using?
In the interest of completeness, I'll cover the questions that I'm sure will get asked so that folks don't **** up the thread with them.
Why not just get an AT&T Captivate?
Handful of reasons. I prefer the Vibrant's aesthetic, but more importantly because AT&T doesn't have T-Mobile Vibrant IMEIs on file. This means you can add and drop data at your own discretion instead of being required to use it, and it also means that their system will treat it as a dumbphone. Definitely a perk.
Why not just get a Galaxy S Vibrant from Bell in Canada? It definitely has 850 and 1900.
This is what I'll end up doing if the T-Mobile one doesn't work out, but it's a pretty big pain in the ass to get Canadian phones shipped down here whereas the T-Mobile version is readily available. Also, no warranty!
Thanks guys.
From what Ive read, the Vibrant works on 850/1700/1900/2100. --See edits below--
~T.J.
EDIT: See this post: http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...too.-Works-on-ATT-3g.?p=13923098#post13923098
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http://www.howardforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=67212&d=1280324484
EDIT AGAIN: Here was another list of frequencies, and a picture of the side of the box which lists them from a review site.
Band (frequency): 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)
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http://rounduprussy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/IMG_7228.jpg
It doesn't work on WCDMA 850. Doesn't support it. Try selecting it only and put a AT&T sim in and see if you get 3G. Yea you won't, then try selecting 1900 only and what happens? Yea exactly.
Well, I dont have one in front of me to experiment with my AT&T and T-Mobile SIMs, Im just going off the side of the box and whats listed in the menu (both say 850). I currently have a Captivate and a Fascinate, but Im looking into getting the Vibrant instead for a number of reasons so I was just poking around. Sorry if I was passing on bad info.
~T.J.
EDIT: I thought I read of some people getting it to work on 850, but that could be wrong. Im looking again... Could it be there just isn't 850 coverage where you tried it and instead was 1900 coverage? These are OLD maps though...
http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
Because the T-Mobile 3G network in the U.S. is listening for 3G data in the 1700MHz and 2100MHz bands, it’s the only U.S. network with which the Nexus One phone can communicate. AT&T’s 3G network listens for phones transmitting 3G traffic in the 850 MHz and 1900 MHz bands, which the Nexus One cannot do. All it can do is send 2G traffic in those bands, so it does, making a slower data experience for those using the Nexus One in Ma Bell’s mobile network.
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Just because the it's listed in software doesn't mean it can work. The Fascinate is a CDMA phone and your gonna tell me because you see the bands listed in software that it will work on a gsm network? Really? Either way I'm not trying to get you down. Just saying if that were possible, it would have been mention already. To conclude though, it all comes down to hardware support, the software is just mirrored on all galaxy s phones. The Vibrant only does 1700/1900/2100 for 3G. The 850 band would have benefit you better for in building support, but it's not supported.
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Just because the it's listed in software doesn't mean it can work. The Fascinate is a CDMA phone and your gonna tell me because you see the bands listed in software that it will work on a gsm network? Really? Either way I'm not trying to get you down. Just saying if that were possible, it would have been mention already. To conclude though, it all comes down to hardware support, the software is just mirrored on all galaxy s phones. The Vibrant only does 1700/1900/2100 for 3G. The 850 band would have benefit you better for in building support, but it's not supported.
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That picture is from the screen of a Vibrant. Notice the T-Mobile branding at the ear speaker? But, I do understand about the listing in the software not necessarily having the hardware. Also, I edited my post above.
~T.J.
Dug this all up from the FCC fairly easily just to see for myself.
External photos:
http://www.nwallwheeldrive.com/misc/External.pdf
Internal photos:
http://www.nwallwheeldrive.com/misc/Internal.pdf
FCC ID label location:
http://www.nwallwheeldrive.com/misc/Label.pdf
Heres the test report from the FCC (showing 850 Mhz GSM):
http://www.nwallwheeldrive.com/misc/Measurement Report.pdf
Heres the rest results for the Specific Absorption Rate (showing 850 Mhz GSM around page 25):
http://www.nwallwheeldrive.com/misc/SAR Compliance.pdf
My conclusion? Id say its capable because it has all the hardware (since they were able to test it), but depends on the network around you. That, or they literally software blocked it for some reason.
~T.J.
EDIT: Ok, had to DL the PDF files and I temporarily uploaded them on my web site server for now. Dont know how long I will leave them there however.
850 gsm != 850 umts
D'oh! Talk about needing to sleep! As I said I'm just here to learn too as I want to pick up a vibrant, but apparently I need to sleep before thinking and posting. Sorry about that!
~T. J.
Thanks for all the responses, guys, I really appreciate the thorough feedback.
Sounds like 850 is a bust, which is really disheartening. There's loads of T-Mobile Vibrants on eBay in the $340-380 ballpark, but it's going to cost closer to $500 to get a Bell Vibrant down here.
yeah the phone supports 850GSM but not 850WCDMA/UMTS/3G
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850 gsm != 850 umts
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They are two different type of bands as outlined here: http://www.nwallwheeldrive.com/misc/Measurement Report.pdf
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They are two different type of bands as outlined here: http://www.nwallwheeldrive.com/misc/Measurement Report.pdf
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"!=" == "not equal"
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"!=" == "not equal"
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oh! teaches me to multitask while in class
I may have gotten in over my head and am wondering if anyone can advise if I just blew it or if there is something I can do.
I am a Cincinnati Bell Wireless (CBW) customer and am less than satisfied with the Motorola XT720 and Samsung Galaxy S.
I looked at the specs for the Atrix (3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 ) vs the Samsung (3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100 ) and since I thought CBW worked on 1700 and 2100) I thought the Atrix may work on it as I was under the impression that if any one of the 3G bands matched the phone would work.
As a side note - part of my issue with the Samsung is the GPS issues. Part of it is more the issue that CBWs 3G network is not super strong and hence I am on edge even in their 3G coverage area.
Anyhow, I can only get an edge connection. While roaming this week end I did get 3G from time to time. The simple answer may be that I screwed up and bought a phone that I can't get to work with Cincinnati Bell Wireless, but I thought I would place a post out here to see if I am overlooking something. Something odd like AT&T locking out the 2100 or something that there may be a hack to open up which would let the phone work with CBW on 3G or something like that.
If anyone has ideas I would appreciate it. The Atrix is an awesome phone. Not sure that I am ready to pay the AT&T rates over what I have with CBW, especially without unlimited data so I thought I'd put a post out here and see if there is something I can try.
Thanks!
Hey man,
Im in the Cincinnati Market as well and have been with ATT for about, well since they were Ameritech. (long time) i have the Atrix and Lapdock and have been researching switching to CBW for the savings of about 100 per month for my 5 phone plan. I think that the 3g should work but havent verifited that yet. i have unlocked my phone and am taking it to the florence mall CBW to try a demo phone sim to see if i can get 3g. i currently average 1.5 mg download and .5 up load, i have noticed a difference in the towers, in some areas i can get up to 4.5 mb download and 1.5 upload on ATT 3g towers, My ATT guy says that the 4g towers will be turned on in September. should be way faster then. so i will let you know what i find out when i try the CBW sim. but im still unsure about the switch because CBW girl says their 4g is a ways off.
Good luck.
Thanks. Look forward to hearing back. At the moment i cant get it to work and cbw says it won't work.
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Any updates on whether the Atrix would work on CBW? I've been debating if I should switch over to Cincinnati Bell when my Verizon contract is up.
Right now all I can say is that voice and edge work but not 3G data. Personally I am getting fed up with some of CBWs practices and policies. The best i have to say is they have an unlimited data option.
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The 2100 3g band is for Europe only. The atrix will not work anywhere in north America on the 2100 band and it does not have the 1700 band. Unless your carrier lets you roam on att you will not be able to use 3g
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I live in the Chicago Suburbs, and I got my brand-spanking new International Galaxy S3 [GT I-9300] delivered by Expansys today ($778.97 plus taxes). Color is "marble white", and it's a thing of beauty; I just love the phone!
However, when I added the "Straight Talk" (AT&T) SIM card and completed the setup process as described, I wasn't even able to download Apps from the Play store... because my connection is too slow!
I verified twice that all my APN settings are correct, but all the speed I seem to get is "Edge" (phone is displaying a tiny 'E' in the status bar) with max speeds of 212 kbps UP, and 140 kbps DOWN... - WHAT A JOKE!!!
My question: what am I doing wrong?
I did my due diligence before buying the phone; making sure that AT&T delivers decent speeds on the frequencies that the I-9300 can pick up.
Just for comparison's sake, the GT I-9300 covers the 850/900/1800/1900 MHz bands for 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE, and 850/900/1700/1900/2100 MHz for 3G UMTS/HSPA+.
According to AT&T's website, they primarily use the 850 and 1900 MHz bands here in the US - which means, I should be able to get HSPA/HSPA+ speeds around here.
No such thing, I'm afraid.
Any idea what the problem may be?? I have searched for answers in this Forum already, but came up empty...
Sounds like you could be in a 3G black area like where a few metres either way could give a 3G signal, so just try your network in another phone and you'll know.
Maybe you got the T-Mobile version of the sin card by mistake
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Thanks for the input!
I'm pretty sure it's an AT&T card, as all the APN setup instructions that came with it are for Cingular/AT&T..
Looks like I have to give Straight Talk a call tomorrow; hoping that this can be figured out...
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The APN setting were correct, but -apparently- I wasn't familiar enough with the "Mobile Network" setting... since there was no indication of it in Straight Talk's setup instructions and I never had to mess with it before on my previous phones...
Anyways...
Go to SETTINGS > MORE SETTINGS > MOBILE NETWORKS > NETWORK MODE:
Select select "GSM/WCDMA (Auto mode)"
In "Network Operators" (right below) press "Select Automatically"
I also made another change that I read about when searching for a solution. And even though it is believed that it does not solve the problem, it helps to "speed up" things... by whatever margin that may be:
In "ACCESS POINT NAMES" (part of "MOBILE NETWORK" menu):
Change the "PROXY" from proxy.mvno.tracfone.com to 66.209.11.33
As a matter of fact, 66.209.11.33 is the same address as proxy.mvno.tracfone.com, but the phone/service does not have to resolve it anymore - as it already is 'translated'. This is believed to make things a bit snappier and get you better/faster service.
No idea if it really does anything at all... but since my phone is working just fine - and finally at HSPA and HSPA+ speeds(!!!) - I am not going to change it back anymore....
I have to say, the $45/month all-unlimited Straight Talk & Data SIM (AT&T service) really works well on my GT I-9300! It is not giving me LTE speeds, but it's just 35% of the price I used to pay Verizon before (month-to-month service w/ 450 talk minutes + 5 [upped to 10GB as part of their promo] Data plan) for LTE, which was sucking my REZOUND's battery dry in no time flat. And HSPA+ is certainly fast enough for what I need my phone for...
What's not to like??!
As for me, I like it much better now!!!
Glad you got it fixed quick.
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I did my due diligence before buying the phone; making sure that AT&T delivers decent speeds on the frequencies that the I-9300 can pick up.
Just for comparison's sake, the GT I-9300 covers the 850/900/1800/1900 MHz bands for 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE, and 850/900/1700/1900/2100 MHz for 3G UMTS/HSPA+.
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Just for clarification though, I see you mentioned the I9300 using 1700 and 2100Mhz. Where'd you get that info? Those are Tmobile HSPA+ bands. I'd love for the phone to support that, but don't think that's correct
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Glad you got it fixed quick.
Just for clarification though, I see you mentioned the I9300 using 1700 and 2100Mhz. Where'd you get that info? Those are Tmobile HSPA+ bands. I'd love for the phone to support that, but don't think that's correct
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Thanks, farfromovin!
You may have a point there, buddy... Those are supposedly the bands that the International Galaxy S3 can pick up in general, according to Wikipedia. Here in the US, however, you're out of luck if picking T-mobile as your carrier for the I-9300, because they broadcast 3G on a different band, which the S3/I-9300 does not pick up by default... so I had verified by a bunch of folks in the Forums.
I was looking into exactly the same thing before I made the decision to go with a prepaid "Straight Talk" (AT&T) SIM card. ST also offers an T-mo version, but with that - as I had stated before - you'll only get 2G in the US; at least for now (note: this may change by end of the year/early in 2013, so I've read, as Tmo is making adjustments/improvements to their network and 3G/4G frequencies..).
Hope this helps.
If you happen to live in the US and haven't heard yet, all major carriers here will come out with the S3 in just a few weeks. Carrier-branded only, and "just" with the 2-core Snapdragon S4 CPU inside (due to LTE).
But, this phone is so awesome, I wouldn't even mind having only 2 cores if I were not able to run the International/Unlocked version on HSPA+ here in the US... But, 4 cores kick some serious butt, dude!!
Cheers,
Armin
androidarmin said:
Thanks, farfromovin!
You may have a point there, buddy... Those are supposedly the bands that the International Galaxy S3 can pick up in general, according to Wikipedia. Here in the US, however, you're out of luck if picking T-mobile as your carrier for the I-9300, because they broadcast 3G on a different band, which the S3/I-9300 does not pick up by default... so I had verified by a bunch of folks in the Forums.
I was looking into exactly the same thing before I made the decision to go with a prepaid "Straight Talk" (AT&T) SIM card. ST also offers an T-mo version, but with that - as I had stated before - you'll only get 2G in the US; at least for now (note: this may change by end of the year/early in 2013, so I've read, as Tmo is making adjustments/improvements to their network and 3G/4G frequencies..).
Hope this helps.
If you happen to live in the US and haven't heard yet, all major carriers here will come out with the S3 in just a few weeks. Carrier-branded only, and "just" with the 2-core Snapdragon S4 CPU inside (due to LTE).
But, this phone is so awesome, I wouldn't even mind having only 2 cores if I were not able to run the International/Unlocked version on HSPA+ here in the US... But, 4 cores kick some serious butt, dude!!
Cheers,
Armin
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That is wrong info..anyone can put info on wikipedia. It matters what's on the box and on the box it's the standard quad band for umts. There is no 1700 band on the box and so no hspa speed for tmobile.
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Try leaving the Straight Talk Proxy setting blank. I think you will see much better data speeds.
I'm having the same problem, but your solution didn't work for me. I cant seem to shake edge connection. I had hspda last night
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I'm having the same problem, but your solution didn't work for me. I cant seem to shake edge connection. I had hspda last night
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Yeah same prob. GS2 GT-I9100T Only Edge network :/
SGS3 i9300
kirdroid said:
That is wrong info..anyone can put info on wikipedia. It matters what's on the box and on the box it's the standard quad band for umts. There is no 1700 band on the box and so no hspa speed for tmobile.
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I agree kirdroid, you can't trust Wikipedia to be 100% truth. However, in this case the Wiki page is correct.
/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III
The page is for all models of the Galaxy SIII. There is a graphic on the right side with specs under it for ALL models. Then there is a table in the middle of the page that shows the specs for each model. If you look at the all models specs it looks like one hell of a phone. You have to look at the table with specs for each model to see that I9300 supports:
2G: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz GSM / GPRS / EDGE
3G: 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz UMTS / HSPA+
T-Mobile H+ (2.75G) not working for me in Salt Lake City, UT. Customer support said 1900 MHz is supported for H+, but I'm guessing she didn't check for Utah. As of December 20, 2012 it is not available in Utah. You can search Google to see what markets it's available in: "t-mobile-closes-the-year-by-enhancing-coverage-in-14-new-metro-areas"
I'd post links, but I'm not allowed.
How do you enable hspa+ on an atrix 4g? I can never seem to get the "H+" or "4g" icon, only H (i've checked inside the phone settings and it is definitely just hspa, not hspa+, or hspa: category 10 or otherwise)
I bought my atrix 4g off craigslist and used it on ATT straight talk for a month and had horrible speeds and never had hspa+ (only hspa) so I had the phone carrier unlocked and took it to tmobile monthly 4g but still I am only getting hspa (not hspa+).
Basically, is this phone capable of getting "pseduo-4g" hspa+ or is it locked to hspa? I've seen several mentions of ATT shipping the phone with hspa+ disabled, but no way of knowing how to enable it.
Other info: I am currently using neutrino ROM.
Thanks!
You will only get edge on t mobile with any att phone.............
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Well, its now an unlocked phone and I know I get more than edge because I have hspa right now.
tgeo said:
Well, its now an unlocked phone and I know I get more than edge because I have hspa right now.
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I already gave you the answer... If you believe you can get 3g with an atrix 2 on t mobile, you must be a hero.
The bands are not compatible. A quick google search will plainly show you that.
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fireforhire said:
I already gave you the answer... If you believe you can get 3g with an atrix 2 on t mobile, you must be a hero.
The bands are not compatible. A quick google search will plainly show you that.
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Except that Tmobile is refarming their 1900mhz pcs from 2g to 3g... so yeah you can. Las Vegas and Kansas City are already official... so what?
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Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, the Atrix 4G does 14.4mbps hspa, isn't the 21mbps the actual hspa+?
I know it may not be possible but, Hes talking about an ATRIX 4g. Not ATRIX 2. READ MUCH???
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The Atrix 4G and the Atrix 2 both support T-Mobile's "4G" network which is simply HSPA+ but the best you'll do with the Atrix 4G is 14.4 Mbps (good luck getting that actual speed). The Atrix 2 can hit the 21.1Mbps but not the 42Mbps speeds, and again, good luck with that.
The Atrix 4G is fully capable of being used with T-Mobile now that they are refarming/rolling out their 3G and "4G" 1900 MHz band, people in some areas still haven't gotten the upgrade yet but in many places in the US you can get 3G speeds and even the "4G" HSPA+ with that device on T-Mobile without issues. Here in Vegas when they turned that on a few weeks back (the day the iPhone 5 was released) I had an Atrix 4G and got T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+ service that afternoon with speeds in excess of 6Mbps because I live across the street from a cell site for them, average is about 3-5Mbps most of the time.
The Atrix 4G will most commonly show HSPA:10 when used with T-Mobile, in my experience (that's on ICS or JB ROMs, GB won't show that level of detail/info).
As for the HSPA or HSPA+, they all basically work the same way. 14.4Mbps is considered under the HSPA+ "umbrella" as the saying might go.
br0adband said:
The Atrix 4G and the Atrix 2 both support T-Mobile's "4G" network which is simply HSPA+ but the best you'll do with the Atrix 4G is 14.4 Mbps (good luck getting that actual speed). The Atrix 2 can hit the 21.1Mbps but not the 42Mbps speeds, and again, good luck with that.
The Atrix 4G is fully capable of being used with T-Mobile now that they are refarming/rolling out their 3G and "4G" 1900 MHz band, people in some areas still haven't gotten the upgrade yet but in many places in the US you can get 3G speeds and even the "4G" HSPA+ with that device on T-Mobile without issues. Here in Vegas when they turned that on a few weeks back (the day the iPhone 5 was released) I had an Atrix 4G and got T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+ service that afternoon with speeds in excess of 6Mbps because I live across the street from a cell site for them, average is about 3-5Mbps most of the time.
The Atrix 4G will most commonly show HSPA:10 when used with T-Mobile, in my experience (that's on ICS or JB ROMs, GB won't show that level of detail/info).
As for the HSPA or HSPA+, they all basically work the same way. 14.4Mbps is considered under the HSPA+ "umbrella" as the saying might go.
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I didn't know tmob where deploying a hspa frequency that at&T use. Thanks for that tip.
10Mbps achieved on Atrix on at&T 3g network here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905464
hspa category 10 is 'characterized' as hspa+ but is not hspa+ (evolved hspa) and should not display h+ or 4g on the status bar for that reason. The 4g branding is exactly that... "branding" and at&T should have never used 4g in the name in my opinion. They always said "4g like speeds"
See post #4 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1912716 where there are also a couple links I posted that I found interesting on this subject.
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Hmm, interesting info guys. I do indeed live in Vegas and have been using a GB ROM (maybe I'm not seeing hspa: category 10 because of this).
Sounds like I've done all I can then, thanks!
tgeo said:
Hmm, interesting info guys. I do indeed live in Vegas and have been using a GB ROM (maybe I'm not seeing hspa: category 10 because of this).
Sounds like I've done all I can then, thanks!
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Only ics and jb display the additional radio info.
The key is that you are on a radio that is suited to your rom and provider. 36p and 37p are the two most popular at&t radios, 37p being the official production release and used on many releases. Both 36p and 37p operate at hspa 10. Each provider is at differing phases, as well as having differing standards in their network, for how they implement the any bells and whistles of cellular. There is so much to it.
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Terrible speeds with H+ Icon. Hspa marked as H+.
I am only getting Edge, Umts and HsPa.. My phone marks hspa as H+. I check on status and Umts and Hspa is marked as H+.. My speeds are terrible, only getting 1.8 mbps.
ASPTHEONE said:
I am only getting Edge, Umts and HsPa.. My phone marks hspa as H+. I check on status and Umts and Hspa is marked as H+.. My speeds are terrible, only getting 1.8 mbps.
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Might get the app on Google Play called Antennas, it'll show you the cell sites/towers you're connected to on maps; if you're connected at a given mode (like HSPA or UMTS) but you're pretty far from the site/tower, that could be the primary reason you get the "terrible" speeds. Antennas does work best, however, by putting the phone in 2G/EDGE mode but it is capable of doing 3G/4G/HSPA/UMTS/etc as well.
I live literally across the street from the main site/tower that I stay connected to so I pull 5-8Mbps when I'm in HSPA+ mode but, I keep my Photon in 2G/EDGE mode probably 99% of the time, I have Wi-Fi at home also so there's just no reason to use up any of my 5GB of bandwidth for the "4G" side of things.
T-Mobile 1900 mhz service on Atrix 4G in MD!!
So having played with a couple of 4Gś @ work (and how unawesome they made my G2x look!) I purchased a combo phone and lapdock. This before i realized they worked on different frequencies!!! DOH!
Fortunately, T-Mobś been ahead of me on the curve. I read that they started the long road to providing their service to the souls stranded out in Verizon &/or AT&T limbo...
So I swapped my sim and...Yaaaay! 4 of 5 bars of....wait for it... H+!!!:laugh:
Then, BOOOOO! No data! No MMS. No internet!:crying:
A few hours of online (and Iḿ ashamed to say, trial and error build prop editing) plus 3 calls to T-Mob yielded this in an email:
¨APN settings for data and picture messaging (MMS): Android" on T-mobileś support page (as a noob I cannot post the link):silly:
Iḿ now docked, working, spotifying and sharing ´ẃif my XDA fam!¨
Hope this helps!