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Ok so i bought the vibrant, unlocked it, and inserted my att 3g sim. the issue is im only getting edge speed when my phone is 3g capable. any ideas to correct that? Like creating an apn of some sort?
Thanx!
im about 50 percent sure that at&t and t-mob use different frequencys or something for their 3g signals so they are not compatable, same thing happend with the nexus one and its 3g on at&t if my memory is correct
bweed83 said:
im about 50 percent sure that at&t and t-mob use different frequencys or something for their 3g signals so they are not compatable, same thing happend with the nexus one and its 3g on at&t if my memory is correct
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I second this.
Agree. U need to swap it for samsung captiva. The att galaxy s.
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my only working theory is that the 1900mhz freq isnt as widespread as the 850mhz freq, as the vibrant uses 1900. (i think). so that may be it. but i ask only because some commenter on a diff forum mentioned the need to create a 3g apn.
ps. the captivate is too boxy for me. idk why att changed it
Those are at&&&-t frequencys tmob is 1700 and 2100 I think so if our antenna only picks up those iy wont ever work on at-t's network
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muncher879 said:
my only working theory is that the 1900mhz freq isnt as widespread as the 850mhz freq, as the vibrant uses 1900. (i think). so that may be it. but i ask only because some commenter on a diff forum mentioned the need to create a 3g apn.
ps. the captivate is too boxy for me. idk why att changed it
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It's not how widespread it is. They use different frequencies so your phone won't pick up the ATT 3G signals at all. Edge is 2G.
But I've seen one person on the forum claim that he did it. You can pm him/her on how to do it.
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The Vibrant is capable of AT&T's 3G over the 1900mhz spectrum... if you live in a area where AT&T is only using the 850mhz spec... you will not get 3G.
muncher879 said:
Ok so i bought the vibrant, unlocked it, and inserted my att 3g sim. the issue is im only getting edge speed when my phone is 3g capable. any ideas to correct that? Like creating an apn of some sort?
Thanx!
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HEY, don't listen to these guys. You can get both wcdma 1900 and wcdma 850 on the vibrant, don't worry, you will be able to get at&t 3G on your phone!
I'll show you how when I have time, maybe this weekend.
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The Vibrant is capable of AT&T's 3G over the 1900mhz spectrum... if you live in a area where AT&T is only using the 850mhz spec... you will not get 3G.
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you gave the poor guy wrong information, the vibrant is capable of at&t 3g over 1900 AND 850
Having the same issue
I also am only getting Edge signal on my unlocked vibrant. When I run a 1MB speed test at mobilespeedtest.com it says I am downloading at 2581 kbps which, according to their chart, is a little more than the average 4g speed. Very weird. I also can't download any apps but I am searching for a thread on that.
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I also am only getting Edge signal on my unlocked vibrant. When I run a 1MB speed test at mobilespeedtest.com it says I am downloading at 2581 kbps which, according to their chart, is a little more than the average 4g speed. Very weird. I also can't download any apps but I am searching for a thread on that.
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i'm confused, you said you are getting edge signal, but your speed test shows 2.581mbps? thats 3g speeds.
by the way, you can make the vibrant pick up both att 1900 and 850 signals.
you own a bmw and you are a doctor?
SamsungVibrant said:
i'm confused, you said you are getting edge signal, but your speed test shows 2.581mbps? thats 3g speeds.
by the way, you can make the vibrant pick up both att 1900 and 850 signals.
you own a bmw and you are a doctor?
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I am on an unlocked Vibrant right now. I live in the baltimore area and I am getting full 3g on a friends borrowed att sim. I get faster speeds on his att than I get on my own tmobile.
When I unlocked my phone, I used the wife's SIM card on my Vibrant and was able to get 3G as well. It registered without any issues.
New york city is also all 1900mhz. I am chugging along at a healthy 4300kbps according to mobilespeedtest. I think that is faster than the 3g spec allows so I am starting to doubt that website a bit.
snowdogging said:
New york city is also all 1900mhz. I am chugging along at a healthy 4300kbps according to mobilespeedtest. I think that is faster than the 3g spec allows so I am starting to doubt that website a bit.
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what website? you can also set the vibrant to pick up at&t's wcdma 850mhz
SamsungVibrant said:
HEY, don't listen to these guys. You can get both wcdma 1900 and wcdma 850 on the vibrant, don't worry, you will be able to get at&t 3G on your phone!
I'll show you how when I have time, maybe this weekend.
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HI,
Can you explain how you get UTMS / HSDPA 850 on the Vinrant? According to the specs at xda
It doesnt officially support that, but over at howard forums (sorry cant post lins as a new user):
1666323-USING-SAMSUNG-T-MOBILE-VIBRANT-T959-on-WIND-MOBILE.....IN-CANADA
it seems it is an option in the service menu. Have you tried UTMS850 (as opposed to GSM850) and can confirm it works. Its relevant in Australia as the best coverage NextG network (Telstra) operates on UTMS850
Cheers Chris.
Derp.....
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i'm not getting 3g either,
is there a link to a map to see if i have 1900 in my area?
what apn setting should be used, im pretty shocked that it did the edge APN settings on its own
Try dialing
*#2263#
choose option [4]Combi Bands
Choose option [8] WCDMA 850 bla bla
Choose Add WCDMA 850 bla bla
If the chip is capable to work in that frequency it will work. There are mixed reports but it is the way to fix it
Im blown away, but my vibrant is getting like 2.20 mbps down and 1 mbps up on att. INSANE speeds that i never got before anywhere, let alone my house which has crappy edge speeds. I was playing around in service mode and i dont know what i did but i mustve done someting right. anyway my question is this, is it possible i activated wcdma 850 on vibrant? there were a couple of threads pointing towards this..but most users had no luck. in any case my socks are offically off..
I highly doubt it; most likely you're on the 1900Mhz band that AT&T also uses in some places.
But I never utilized that band until after I messed with service mode. Which is weird because doesn't vibrant support 1900 out of the box? And if yes, why did I never connect to it previously?
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The Vibrant actually does support 1900Mhz band, its not listed publicly. FCC documents show that it supports 1900Mhz.
This question is for the t-mobile guys that have their AT&T phone unlocked. Do you guys pick up "H" icon on your display or does it go into 3g or just stays at "Edge".
And if no, what APN's or settings did you use to bypass the "Edge" network.
And for the folks that say "use the connection app" I've done it, which is why I'm here.
Anyone have trouble getting 3g/4g speeds on their debranded AT&T phones via other carriers?
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No Titan variant anywhere has support for the 1700MHz band ("AWS") T-Mobile USA uses for their UMTS services.
T-Mobile is re-purposing some of their 1900MHz spectrum for UMTS; once that happens in your area you may get 3G/H on your Titan. Until then you will not.
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No Titan variant anywhere has support for the 1700MHz band ("AWS") T-Mobile USA uses for their UMTS services.
T-Mobile is re-purposing some of their 1900MHz spectrum for UMTS; once that happens in your area you may get 3G/H on your Titan. Until then you will not.
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Thanks for the feedback.
I am sorry bro. I was like the few first people who own the International Titan and use it with T-Mobile Bands, I stucked at EDGE/2.5G for all the time before i switched to AT&T so look like you are out of luck.
Sorry.
I can confirm that it is rolling out as we speak, I have the TITAN 2 from ATT using a Tmobile sim and i often get the 4G signal, this started about 5 days ago (September 5th) in the Maryland, Washington DC area. I even tested the connection speed and got a 0.2 Mpbs which actually allowed me to stream netflix on the phone. I was so happy to see that 4G hopefully it can be permanent soon. otherwise I always get the E (edge) slow speed.
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I can confirm that it is rolling out as we speak, I have the TITAN 2 from ATT using a Tmobile sim and i often get the 4G signal, this started about 5 days ago (September 5th) in the Maryland, Washington DC area. I even tested the connection speed and got a 0.2 Mpbs which actually allowed me to stream netflix on the phone. I was so happy to see that 4G hopefully it can be permanent soon. otherwise I always get the E (edge) slow speed.
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It will probably be a while before NYC sees it.
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It will probably be a while before NYC sees it.
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According to tmobile's blog (http://blog.t-mobile.com/2012/09/10/t-mobile-steps-up-bring-your-own-iphone-efforts/), " we’re already starting to turn up 4G HSPA+ service in our 1900 MHz spectrum. With sites already live in cities like Seattle, Las Vegas, Washington DC and the New York metro area..."
Works up here in Seattle.
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According to tmobile's blog (http://blog.t-mobile.com/2012/09/10/t-mobile-steps-up-bring-your-own-iphone-efforts/), " we’re already starting to turn up 4G HSPA+ service in our 1900 MHz spectrum. With sites already live in cities like Seattle, Las Vegas, Washington DC and the New York metro area..."
Works up here in Seattle.
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I'm in the city and still see 2g on my phone =(.
Under Settings -> Cellular -> Highest Connection Speed, did you set to 3G? Otherwise maybe it hasn't reached your part of the city yet... Tmo forums are pretty set on having the majority of the country covered by Q4 so a few more months I guess...
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Under Settings -> Cellular -> Highest Connection Speed, did you set to 3G? Otherwise maybe it hasn't reached your part of the city yet... Tmo forums are pretty set on having the majority of the country covered by Q4 so a few more months I guess...
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I hope so, and yes I had checked and it's selected for 3g.
HTC Titan and T-Mobile
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I'm in the city and still see 2g on my phone =(.
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Lucky y'all!!! There's this big ol donut hole in the state of Georgia and we're in it...No 3G...3.5G...imaginary (AT&T) 4G...and worse...AT&T has their Titans throttled back on Cat 8 so nothing to write home there. I'm returning to T-Mobile at the end of the month and keeping my Titan...and I'm more than aware it will only run on EDGE until T-Mobile "completely" reforms 1900 so all you folks in the big cities; you live in small town USA; it might as well be never. Wherever there's WiFi...the phone is a dream to use but no amount of flashing the Titan is going to change the fact it will only run on 2G if you have either the Straight Talk (T-Mobile) SIM card or T-Mobile SIM card in it...bottom line is T-Mobile is 1700 and a few of us won't see 1900 until we're dead.
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Lucky y'all!!! There's this big ol donut hole in the state of Georgia and we're in it...No 3G...3.5G...imaginary (AT&T) 4G...and worse...AT&T has their Titans throttled back on Cat 8 so nothing to write home there. I'm returning to T-Mobile at the end of the month and keeping my Titan...and I'm more than aware it will only run on EDGE until T-Mobile "completely" reforms 1900 so all you folks in the big cities; you live in small town USA; it might as well be never. Wherever there's WiFi...the phone is a dream to use but no amount of flashing the Titan is going to change the fact it will only run on 2G if you have either the Straight Talk (T-Mobile) SIM card or T-Mobile SIM card in it...bottom line is T-Mobile is 1700 and a few of us won't see 1900 until we're dead.
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I've hit 3g+ in the NYC area, typically in the lower west side of Manhattan. I guess it's slowly making it's way up.
I experienced T-Mobile 3G on a Titan in Redmond, WA yesterday. Got about 2.8Mbit download.
On AT&T I usually get about half that.
Denver 4G
Looks like T-Mobile is doing something in SE Denver right now. I'm starting to see 4G light up on my AT&T Titan phone.
Keep going T-Mo!
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This question is for the t-mobile guys that have their AT&T phone unlocked. Do you guys pick up "H" icon on your display or does it go into 3g or just stays at "Edge".
And if no, what APN's or settings did you use to bypass the "Edge" network.
And for the folks that say "use the connection app" I've done it, which is why I'm here.
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If your Titan I is unlocked, download Advanced Configuration 1.5 and within it you can toggle either 3G or H. That said, as T-Mobile refarms their GSM 1900 band, those cities will be able to use their AT&T Titans on 3G/H. It is expected to be in most T-Mobile markets by the end of 2013. I would encourage you to check out TMo News web page at www.tmonews.com for where they are rolling their high speed 1900 band out.
There is spotty 4g service in the NYC metro area now. It would be nice if it was where I reside at lol. I can deal with the wait. It's so much fun having 4g speed on the titan though.
someeh said:
There is spotty 4g service in the NYC metro area now. It would be nice if it was where I reside at lol. I can deal with the wait. It's so much fun having 4g speed on the titan though.
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Be lucky and happy then; we live in a donut hole in West Central Georgia (US) and there is no T-Mobile service here and where there is AT&T and what remains of All-Tel after Verizon Wireless and AT&T got of what Verizon Wireless had to divest; there is no 3G or H and where my kids live in Opelika, AL, not AT&T but T-Mobile and no 3G there. Auburn-Opelika I doubt is big enough to get the refarmed 1900 H band anytime soon. Though none of these carriers mind us paying for it anyway; amazing how that works; they ***** about some folks using their data up but do you think they charge those on EDGE less; nope!
How do you enable hspa+ on an atrix 4g? I can never seem to get the "H+" or "4g" icon, only H (i've checked inside the phone settings and it is definitely just hspa, not hspa+, or hspa: category 10 or otherwise)
I bought my atrix 4g off craigslist and used it on ATT straight talk for a month and had horrible speeds and never had hspa+ (only hspa) so I had the phone carrier unlocked and took it to tmobile monthly 4g but still I am only getting hspa (not hspa+).
Basically, is this phone capable of getting "pseduo-4g" hspa+ or is it locked to hspa? I've seen several mentions of ATT shipping the phone with hspa+ disabled, but no way of knowing how to enable it.
Other info: I am currently using neutrino ROM.
Thanks!
You will only get edge on t mobile with any att phone.............
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Well, its now an unlocked phone and I know I get more than edge because I have hspa right now.
tgeo said:
Well, its now an unlocked phone and I know I get more than edge because I have hspa right now.
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I already gave you the answer... If you believe you can get 3g with an atrix 2 on t mobile, you must be a hero.
The bands are not compatible. A quick google search will plainly show you that.
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I already gave you the answer... If you believe you can get 3g with an atrix 2 on t mobile, you must be a hero.
The bands are not compatible. A quick google search will plainly show you that.
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Except that Tmobile is refarming their 1900mhz pcs from 2g to 3g... so yeah you can. Las Vegas and Kansas City are already official... so what?
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Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, the Atrix 4G does 14.4mbps hspa, isn't the 21mbps the actual hspa+?
I know it may not be possible but, Hes talking about an ATRIX 4g. Not ATRIX 2. READ MUCH???
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The Atrix 4G and the Atrix 2 both support T-Mobile's "4G" network which is simply HSPA+ but the best you'll do with the Atrix 4G is 14.4 Mbps (good luck getting that actual speed). The Atrix 2 can hit the 21.1Mbps but not the 42Mbps speeds, and again, good luck with that.
The Atrix 4G is fully capable of being used with T-Mobile now that they are refarming/rolling out their 3G and "4G" 1900 MHz band, people in some areas still haven't gotten the upgrade yet but in many places in the US you can get 3G speeds and even the "4G" HSPA+ with that device on T-Mobile without issues. Here in Vegas when they turned that on a few weeks back (the day the iPhone 5 was released) I had an Atrix 4G and got T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+ service that afternoon with speeds in excess of 6Mbps because I live across the street from a cell site for them, average is about 3-5Mbps most of the time.
The Atrix 4G will most commonly show HSPA:10 when used with T-Mobile, in my experience (that's on ICS or JB ROMs, GB won't show that level of detail/info).
As for the HSPA or HSPA+, they all basically work the same way. 14.4Mbps is considered under the HSPA+ "umbrella" as the saying might go.
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The Atrix 4G and the Atrix 2 both support T-Mobile's "4G" network which is simply HSPA+ but the best you'll do with the Atrix 4G is 14.4 Mbps (good luck getting that actual speed). The Atrix 2 can hit the 21.1Mbps but not the 42Mbps speeds, and again, good luck with that.
The Atrix 4G is fully capable of being used with T-Mobile now that they are refarming/rolling out their 3G and "4G" 1900 MHz band, people in some areas still haven't gotten the upgrade yet but in many places in the US you can get 3G speeds and even the "4G" HSPA+ with that device on T-Mobile without issues. Here in Vegas when they turned that on a few weeks back (the day the iPhone 5 was released) I had an Atrix 4G and got T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+ service that afternoon with speeds in excess of 6Mbps because I live across the street from a cell site for them, average is about 3-5Mbps most of the time.
The Atrix 4G will most commonly show HSPA:10 when used with T-Mobile, in my experience (that's on ICS or JB ROMs, GB won't show that level of detail/info).
As for the HSPA or HSPA+, they all basically work the same way. 14.4Mbps is considered under the HSPA+ "umbrella" as the saying might go.
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I didn't know tmob where deploying a hspa frequency that at&T use. Thanks for that tip.
10Mbps achieved on Atrix on at&T 3g network here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905464
hspa category 10 is 'characterized' as hspa+ but is not hspa+ (evolved hspa) and should not display h+ or 4g on the status bar for that reason. The 4g branding is exactly that... "branding" and at&T should have never used 4g in the name in my opinion. They always said "4g like speeds"
See post #4 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1912716 where there are also a couple links I posted that I found interesting on this subject.
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Hmm, interesting info guys. I do indeed live in Vegas and have been using a GB ROM (maybe I'm not seeing hspa: category 10 because of this).
Sounds like I've done all I can then, thanks!
tgeo said:
Hmm, interesting info guys. I do indeed live in Vegas and have been using a GB ROM (maybe I'm not seeing hspa: category 10 because of this).
Sounds like I've done all I can then, thanks!
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Only ics and jb display the additional radio info.
The key is that you are on a radio that is suited to your rom and provider. 36p and 37p are the two most popular at&t radios, 37p being the official production release and used on many releases. Both 36p and 37p operate at hspa 10. Each provider is at differing phases, as well as having differing standards in their network, for how they implement the any bells and whistles of cellular. There is so much to it.
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Terrible speeds with H+ Icon. Hspa marked as H+.
I am only getting Edge, Umts and HsPa.. My phone marks hspa as H+. I check on status and Umts and Hspa is marked as H+.. My speeds are terrible, only getting 1.8 mbps.
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I am only getting Edge, Umts and HsPa.. My phone marks hspa as H+. I check on status and Umts and Hspa is marked as H+.. My speeds are terrible, only getting 1.8 mbps.
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Might get the app on Google Play called Antennas, it'll show you the cell sites/towers you're connected to on maps; if you're connected at a given mode (like HSPA or UMTS) but you're pretty far from the site/tower, that could be the primary reason you get the "terrible" speeds. Antennas does work best, however, by putting the phone in 2G/EDGE mode but it is capable of doing 3G/4G/HSPA/UMTS/etc as well.
I live literally across the street from the main site/tower that I stay connected to so I pull 5-8Mbps when I'm in HSPA+ mode but, I keep my Photon in 2G/EDGE mode probably 99% of the time, I have Wi-Fi at home also so there's just no reason to use up any of my 5GB of bandwidth for the "4G" side of things.
T-Mobile 1900 mhz service on Atrix 4G in MD!!
So having played with a couple of 4Gś @ work (and how unawesome they made my G2x look!) I purchased a combo phone and lapdock. This before i realized they worked on different frequencies!!! DOH!
Fortunately, T-Mobś been ahead of me on the curve. I read that they started the long road to providing their service to the souls stranded out in Verizon &/or AT&T limbo...
So I swapped my sim and...Yaaaay! 4 of 5 bars of....wait for it... H+!!!:laugh:
Then, BOOOOO! No data! No MMS. No internet!:crying:
A few hours of online (and Iḿ ashamed to say, trial and error build prop editing) plus 3 calls to T-Mob yielded this in an email:
¨APN settings for data and picture messaging (MMS): Android" on T-mobileś support page (as a noob I cannot post the link):silly:
Iḿ now docked, working, spotifying and sharing ´ẃif my XDA fam!¨
Hope this helps!
I recently bought an unlocked Atrix 4g off ebay to use on my tmobile plan. Everything went smooth except that I'm having issues with slow internet. I've looked all over for a solution(youtube, google, xda forums, etc.) All I've been able to come up with was that until late 2012 this phone wasn't even able to connect to tmobile except on 2g, and a bunch of useless(to me) instructions on how to change my APN.
At this point the phone tells me I'm on 3g, and I consistently have 3-5 bars. My old sidekick had 4g in 90% of the area and 3g everywhere else, so I know for a fact that there is coverage. However when I do a speed test I get an average of 25-50Kbps download and upload, occasionally I get 170Kbps. I've called tmobile and verified that there is EDGE network support in my area(apparently also HSPDA but no HSPA+). I just installed GSM Singal Monitoring app from the play store which is also telling me I'm on EDGE network type.
I've tried every combination of APN settings I can find on the internet including cingular settings and have come up with nothing. This data transfer rates don't drop, and don't get better. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm sure it's not the phone, I can get 18Mbps at work on the wifi(running tests, downloads I've seen up to 4MB/s or 32Mbps). Also if there's anything I need to do on the phone to get internet speeds which requires root, I've already rooted the phone. The only thing I've installed since the root is CWM.
I have used both the Atrix 4G and Atrix HD on T-Mobile. The 4G does not have the radio frequencies needed for 4G / LTE data service from T-Mobile, but the HD does. In fact the HD is a perfect match for T-Mobile frequencies. You can check out the detailed specs for these phones on GSMARENA.
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I also am on TMOUS, the best I've gotten is 5.3 Download 2.7upload on edge.
Im not sure why but I cannot use 3g.Not for a lack of trying though.(tried many apn settings,and even playing with the Dev radio settings)
I want to set the facts straight. The only T-Mobile frequencies that are compatible with the bands on our 'specific' devices are for 2G, Recently T-Mobile has refarmed their towers to support unlocked AT&T devices like ours, specifically they refarmed the towers in 'certain' areas to broadcast and receive 1900 mhz waves that our device's can use for 3G and so called "4G" If you only get 2G that's because there are no nearby towers functioning on the 1900 mhz frequencies.
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I want to set the facts straight. The only T-Mobile frequencies that are compatible with the bands on our 'specific' devices are for 2G, Recently T-Mobile has refarmed their towers to support unlocked AT&T devices like ours, specifically they refarmed the towers in 'certain' areas to broadcast and receive 1900 mhz waves that our device's can use for 3G and so called "4G" If you only get 3G that's because there are no nearby towers functioning on the 1900 mhz frequencies.
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I would like to add that I own an Atrix 4G on T-Mobile (in Chicago), and I get Edge, 3G AND HSPA+ signals. OP was correct in that the phone wasn't able to connect to the other bands except on 2G until about december 2012 (they expanded in order to entice iPhone users to switch providers).
But currently the MB860 (Atrix 4G) *does* work on HSPA+ (which is often called 4G, even though it is not true 4G LTE), which is still much faster than 3G.
post or send be a copy of your apn settings.I'm in Houston and they've reformed their towers here.
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I would love it to already get fast 3g for anything else I also have an ahd
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