I am fianally considering rooting my vibrant, and possibly trying some of the roms out there. I understand that it is wise to do a nandroid backup, and would also plan on using Titanium Backup to save all my user loaded apps. My question is what do you stand to lose by flashing a rom? Will Titanium Backup save my gmail settings, or does it only save app info for the user installed apps? Also, is it full proof, that I wont end up needing to pay for my paid apps a second time?? Will all my contacts be saved, and ready to use, or will I be looking at an hour to set this stuff up again?? What is truly involved?
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I've searched through the forums and tried a couple of apps to backup apps/data myself, but I'd be curious to get some feedback as to what the best backup app is. Most of the postings I've seen mentioned Titanium Backup and My Backup Pro. Titanium seems quite complicated in as much as there are a plethora of batch operation options. On the other hand, I didn't see an option to backup SMS/MMS/Bookmarks/etc. the way My Backup does. My Backup also seems far simpler to use. I guess the real question is, which one (or an alternative) is most accurate or reliable in both backing up and restoring apps and their associated data?
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I've searched through the forums and tried a couple of apps to backup apps/data myself, but I'd be curious to get some feedback as to what the best backup app is. Most of the postings I've seen mentioned Titanium Backup and My Backup Pro. Titanium seems quite complicated in as much as there are a plethora of batch operation options. On the other hand, I didn't see an option to backup SMS/MMS/Bookmarks/etc. the way My Backup does. My Backup also seems far simpler to use. I guess the real question is, which one (or an alternative) is most accurate or reliable in both backing up and restoring apps and their associated data?
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Actually Titanium Backup does save your txt and stuff but you have to save them through the explore option, I have never tried Backup Pro so I can't talk about how bad/good it is compared to TB.
But with Titanium backup you can backup any apk or system settings that are your phone, its actually the best money I have ever spent on the phone. I guess there can be a learning curve but its actually fairly simple to use. I mean there is free version of it, but to really see TB in action you need the "donate" version. TRUST ME you wont regret buying TB.
I use Mybackup pro, and it has been well worth the money I paid for it. I have never used Titanium but MyBackup does all that I need it to.
Titanium backup is by far the best money I have spent ....can't speak for my backup pro
TB is definitely not that difficult to use, I don't use it to back up email or sms just cuz my email (both acct's) are web based and .....I am always that deletes my texts regularly....
though I know you can do it with it.... it does save all my other settings though ....so no resetting up my other apps , other then gmail so that I can download titanium
OK, I've gone with Titanium. It just seems far more flexible and comprehensive and comparison test I have run proved it more accurate. I havent quite figured how to get it to backup sms/mms/bookmarks/etc. but I have the apps part down and it works like a champ. And while I'm on the subject, it's be quite nice if I had a flashable zip that installed Titanium but that's something I have no idea how to do.....but I'll figure it out.
Sorry for this but I have more Titanium questions.
1) If I have A2SD running TB doesn't seem to be aware of apps installed on the ext partition. What's the solution here? Move the apps, back them up, move them back to ext? A configuration issue with TB?
2) Try as I might, I can't seem to get backup of SMS/MMS to work. I backup what seems appropriate but when I restore I get nothing. My guess here is I'm backing up the wrong things or missing something I should be backing up.
Any ideas/help would be greatly appreciated.
gospodinwizard said:
Sorry for this but I have more Titanium questions.
2) Try as I might, I can't seem to get backup of SMS/MMS to work. I backup what seems appropriate but when I restore I get nothing. My guess here is I'm backing up the wrong things or missing something I should be backing up.
Any ideas/help would be greatly appreciated.
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The item you are looking for in the Backup/Restore tab is called [SMS/MMS/APN Dialer] storage. If you restore this, a reboot seems to be required before your data is visible.
I was thinking of playing around with some roms/apps but I'm scared of trashing my SGII phone. Is there an app (Titanium Backup/My Backup Pro?) that will take a complete image of the phone as it is now including all photos, apps, files, and the way its setup and restore it should something go wrong? From the description of say Titanium Backup, it sounds like it might just back up individual apps and settings?
Is there anyway to backup everything (all settings, all apps, all data, home screens, shortcuts, BT pairings etc.) on GB and have it perfectly restored after a new OS version upgrade (ICS) ? I have been researching this on various sites but can't find a clear answer. I know if I root my Note I can create a NANDROID backup image. But when restored it restores the OS as well. Correct? Or is there a way to restore a NANDROID backup with out restoring the OS? Or will using Titanium or My Backup Pro accomplish what I'm asking for? THANX!
You are correct on nandroid, no way to do it without the OS. You will have to re set up all of your settings and bt pairings afaik. Titanium will restore all of your installed apps, but not how you had everything set up. As for texts, there are some SMS backup apps on the market. Some launchers also provide the ability to backup how you had them set up, but I'm not sure which ones, and if you're not using it currently it wouldn't do much good anyways. Also, if you're doing the update through kies, it will wrote everything off your phone, so be sure to transfer your photos to your computer before you do. Also, if you use titanium, you would have to transfer that file to your computer before using kies.
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Maybe I'm repeating this... Titanium does not keep the settings? I dont particularly like Titanium because I want to select my important apps and do a batch backup to my SD card. I want it to keep the settings and logins too. Then, when I get a new rom, I can load the app, settings, log ins and everything.
Is this not possible?
I use 128 bit passwords that are about 30 characters long, so I end up texting myself my AndroidMarket password and using the online market to push the apps to the phone over wifi. Then I use USB to copy over a KeePass database and load KeePass Droid to start setting all my logins for VOIP, emails, media apps, etc. since it has a notification bar user/pswd dropdown to copy. It is more time consuming than I prefer, it makes it impossible to really try new roms that often, keepass makes it at least bearable.
Would you care to tell me how people manage to use nightly builds and things of that nature while not spending hours plugging in all the settings?
Titanium restores app data.
The first batch of each sub section is what i use.
Backup:
Backup all user apps
Restore:
Restore missing apps with data
Theoretically you could backup all system data that appears with green txt I'm the list of programs in tibu, which would include things such as Wi-Fi password and bt pairings i believe.
but if you were to have issues by restoring that, because restoring system data can be funky sometimes, you'd have to factory reset and start over, so that part is up to you.
I don't do anything other than the batches i mentioned above.
If you are upgrading ICS from a stock GB then you won't lose your app, its data and contact.
But settings, home keys and shortcuts will be initiated.
I don't know how to back it up but I usually screen shot those and then just redo when I have a new rom installed.
Almost all my data has been stored by default to my internal storage. Pictures, DL's, I figure I will sync to my laptop and back them up there, but there must be an easier way all you flash addicts are doing it. And TB is still preferred method to back up and restore all apps, msgs and call logs?
Is there a good startup noob guide? Things change so fast around here I never know if the guides are now obsolete.
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Clockworkmod recovery......for a complete backup...
and although TB is a great app, it seems to cause as many problems as it solves..
the app pulls data into a fresh build (on occasion) and causes problems when setting up..
I personally load "all" of my apps from the market again, on a fresh rom install....g
Most would store their downloads and pics on the external sd card. Contacts should be made google contacts that way they sync automatically. And Titanium backup works well. You just have to know what to restore. Issues are usually attributed to user error by not knowing fully what they are doing.
Taking everyone's valuable suggestions one step further, send backups from external sd card to Google Drive or Dropbox.
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Clockworkmod recovery......for a complete backup...
and although TB is a great app, it seems to cause as many problems as it solves..
the app pulls data into a fresh build (on occasion) and causes problems when setting up..
I personally load "all" of my apps from the market again, on a fresh rom install....g
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Most would store their downloads and pics on the external sd card. Contacts should be made google contacts that way they sync automatically. And Titanium backup works well. You just have to know what to restore. Issues are usually attributed to user error by not knowing fully what they are doing.
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Taking everyone's valuable suggestions one step further, send backups from external sd card to Google Drive or Dropbox.
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So you change the default settings of where to store dl's and photos every time you flash a new rom?
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When I restore I log in to google and get TiBU.
I make sure it knows my backup folder location.
I restore the apps I backed up. Never select restore system apps.
Then I restore sms and calls. When I restored those apps they get their settins restore so I don't have to do anything.
So the only location I check/change is TiBU.
I used to CWM but now I use TWRP for flashing and creating backups. I also use TB pro and I have to say I haven't had any problems but I do only restore apps and their data and nothing else. I also have become a fan of My Backup. I am able to backup and restore how I have my icons saved on my screen. Makes it real easy and quick to get back up and running.
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You can save the launcher and it's data with tibu also, no need for a second app...That's what i do
hell some launchers have a backup option built into them.
Serious? Well face palm myself. I never paid attention that TB did.
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Just so you know, nothing on your internal or external SD is affected by flashing a ROM. Sounds like you think you might lose your pictures and downloads. They will be safe unless you format them.
OK, so I bought the pro version of TiBu, actually had a tough time getting it to sync with the free version and recognize the key on fresh rom install....
But my bigger problem after rom install hand TiBU restore...I am getting 3 errors and it caused the phone to hang so bad, had to do a factory reset and start from scratch with everything.
1. Calendar sync not working properly
2. Messages sync not working properly
3. Android.process.acore not working properly.
I would love to flash roms more often but dont out of fear of having to restore everything I liked back manually (I have to learn how to backup launcher too BC that is a big time factor in setup after a flash)
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The trick is the System Apps. If they're Green then you can usually backup and restore them without any issue. If they're Red then you shouldn't back them up and restores won't be useful.
For some of the Green items (e.g., messages, bookmarks, call log) there's a Yellow equivalent which indicates XML. For these, you should favor the XML since it'll restore across ROMs better.
For all apps, if you switch between ROMs that are extremely different (for example, if you jump straight from stock GB to CM9(ICS) then there can be problems. You can usually get around these by uninstalling the offending app, installing from Play Store and then restoring just the data.
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I'm going to Japan for a month and I wonder what is my best option to get my phone travel reading.
What do I mean?
I want to get rid of all unnecessary apps to get as much space as possible for photos. And also to save data bandwidth and battery.
I'm rooted btw.
I thought I do a full backup with Titanium and then delete everything I see that I will not need. (Or even reset the phone)
After I come back I re-add all those apps with Titanium restore.
Does this seem like the easiest way to do it or can you think of any better?