well theres a lot of old info out there, having a hard time sorting some of this stuff out!
I have a stock Eris that came from Verizon with 2.1 on it already. I'd like to root it, but does that mean I have to install a custom ROM? or is there a way to get root with the ROM thats already on the phone? Sorry noob questions I know but I've read over the adb command stuff and it sound easy, but I'd like some clarification on what each command does and what each file is for, etc...I have the sdk set up already on my computer. I hear stuff about bootloader versions, radio versions and stuff too, does this stuff get modified as well during this process? and if so, is there a way to revert to 100% stock if I have to send it in for warranty or insurance? keep in mind this phone already had 2.1 from verizon, if that matters.
You can root your phone using jcase's 1 click root app from the market all you have to do is run the app, reboot into recovery by holding power and volume up or down(mine ia volume up my roomates is volume down) and flash the rootme.zip file the app places on your sd card. Doing this will root your current os and you will not lose any data. At that point you can wipe and flash a custom rom instead of the rootme.zip by having one downloaded and already on your sd card. Make sure its not in a folder. If you want to do things like overclocking you will need a custom rom as the stock kernel does not support it. You can also just flash a new kernel its the same as flashing a rom. Anyway check out jcase one click root thread in the eris development section for more detailed instructions and on youtube lostelement has some great videos showing how to root the eris and flash a rom step by step. Hope this helps.
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can you still root this eris using the command terminal? or do I have to do the 1-click method? and as far as returning the phone to 100% stock, is there a RUU program that will restore everything to stock? I've seen some threads but it seems like many of the download links are getting broken for some reason?
EDIT: also, jcase's 1-click method installs Amon's recovery correct? and this file..."rootme.zip" is this like a "patch" that is applied to the current OS to provide root, whereas flashing a new custom rom will delete and replace everything but this custom rom has been writtn to provide root access already? sorry so many questions, just trying to get a handle on this before I try it and do something stupid/expensive haha
Yes there are ruu's to go back to stock. I believe you can still use the terminal but one click root is easier and it does give you amon ra recovery. Flashing rootme.zip will root your stock os and give you superuser permissions app which allows you to manage what apps are granted root access.
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And customs roms are all ready to for root. If your flashing a custom rom you don't need to flash rootme.zip.
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Does flashing custom roms change the hboot version or the radio version? Also for some reason when I do the vol-up+end when I power on it shows a screen with a red triangle with an exclamation point, is this normal until I flash the new recovery image?
Yea that's normal until you flash a new recovery and the roms don't affect the radio or hboot. They must be flashed separately. Be very careful flashing a radio. A bad radio flash is the easiest way to brick your phone.
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probably wont touch the radio or hboot, not many ppl seem to need to. as far as the RUU goes, it will re-flash the recovery and the rom back to the same as they were out-of-box correct? wondering if anybody has a link to this file, all links i've found are broken
I haven't had to use it but from what I understand its an executable file that you run on your pc while your phone is plugged in via usb. If you need it im sure someone would be able to post a fresh link or email it to you.
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thx steve for all your help so far If anybody has a link to the RUU for the official original 2.1 eris, email it to me or link in this thread, also wondering if theres a link to the official 2.1 ROM (the non-root version and not the leak versions, the "official" OTA is what I mean.) In case something bad happens with a ROM I install that i have the original to flash, thay way I can keep Amon's recovery on the phone instead of using the RUU, personally having a hard time finding it. seems liek all the stock roms are labeled PB00IMG?
After you root, in amonra you can do a nandroid backup, which will completely back up everything on your phone to your sd card. If you don't like a rom or are having problems you can just recover your backup and your phone will be as it was when you made the backup. I keep nandroids of a few different roms and just switch between them sometimes.
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So is there any advantage at all to being rooted on the stock rom? That's where I am now. I will probably stay there for a while until I decide what ROM I want to try. I installed an overclocking widget from the marketplace just to try it out, but from the sounds of this thread, its a waste of time with the stock rom.
Rooted on a stock Rom sucks. Battery life compared to a froyo based Rom is exponentially better imo. Nonsensikal vanilla v7 was the Rom of choice but I'm back to stock because I have to send the phone back to VZW
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Yea I would recommend kaos froyo or tazz froyo. Im currently using kaos 35-1 and the battery life is amazing. Check out DS36 thread on improving battery life by using set cpu and auto killer. I get a day and a half easily with moderate use IE texting facebook and checking xda all the time and a phone call or two. I have the stock battery.
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Yea I would recommend kaos froyo or tazz froyo. Im currently using kaos 35-1 and the battery life is amazing. Check out DS36 thread on improving battery life by using set cpu and auto killer. I get a day and a half easily with moderate use IE texting facebook and checking xda all the time and a phone call or two. I have the stock battery.
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Sounds good. I think I am being a bit of a chicken to be honest. Sell me on the safeness of this. I will look at that thread too. Thanks.
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Sounds good. I think I am being a bit of a chicken to be honest. Sell me on the safeness of this. I will look at that thread too. Thanks.
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It's really not that difficult one click Eris root run rootme.zip download and extract the Rom of your choice. Run amon ras recovery nandroid backup wipe flash new Rom and voila. Easy as pie.
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I did the one click Eris root already, and just applied the rootme.zip. So installing a new rom would mean copying it to the root of the SD card, rebooting and holding down the volume key and then picking that new zip file, correct? I don't know what that amon ras recovery thingy is. Is that part of rom installation, or something that I need to acquire separately?
You need to copy the Rom to your SD card and use estrongs file explorer download from market and long press on the .zip file it will pull up a menu that gives you some options. Extract from the .zip file and hit ok no new path is needed. Now that yuu have the file on your SD card reboot and go to recovery nandroid backup then wipe then flash from zip. After it unpacked and loads then it will prompt you to reboot hit okay and let it do its thing. I'm going to end all this with saying double check the forums for how tos and I'm not responsible for a bricked phone do this at your own risk but have fun itsreally not that difficult
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I'm not responsible for a bricked phone
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Yep, I realize that. You know that you don't actually have to answer my questions right? If I ask more noob questions, know that I am not expecting you personally to answer them.
I'm at work and all of my equipment I maintain is working so I'm killing sometime
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Whats goin on! New here as you can see... Just wanted to know if someone can drop some knowledge on me about the vibrant as far as flashing to a new rom and what I would need to do. Or you could just direct me to a guide. Been reading the forums and been hearing about Odin (no idea what it is or how I would access it on my vibrant) and I tried to boot into download and recovery mode for testing purposes and failed miserably . Anyone care to drop some knowledge.
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First thing first.. congralutations on the Vibrant.. now lets get craking.. What do you want to do? Ther are so many update/upgrade so can do but you will need to let us know what you want so we can direct you to the correct threads..
Well, here's my recommendations:
Whoops, forgot this part, see if you can get into recovery through hardware buttons.
Turn off phone, hold down both volume buttons, then press power button until phone turns on. Keep holding volume buttons until you see the green text (I guess you could also let go when it says Vibrant on the screen). Either rejoice that your handset doesn't have it locked, or be slightly disappointed, but now you know.
1. Root (You can download an app to root you automatically, or root through a pc/mac app, or manually if you'd like.
2. Install rom manager from the market and have it install the clockwork recovery.
3. Create backup!
Now you're pretty much ready to do anything, check out some roms, unlock your phone to work with other carriers, install some lag fixes if you want.
Well looking foward to froyo and knowing samsungs rep on promises I think I might just want to use a custom froyo rom
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Update: just installed clockwork. Did a backup and also applied lag fix. Now my question is will this effect my ota updates... And if I do flash a rom by a dev do I need to uninstall lagfix first ?
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Depends on the rom, just read the first post, should have all the information.
Ok. Thanks for the info . This also shouldnt effect any OTA update I would get from tmobile right? All ive done is rooy, install clockwork, did a backup with clockwork, and lagfixed. Wouldnt think it should seeing as im not running a custom rom.. Correct me if im wrong.. Lol
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luis86dr said:
Ok. Thanks for the info . This also shouldnt effect any OTA update I would get from tmobile right? All ive done is rooy, install clockwork, did a backup with clockwork, and lagfixed. Wouldnt think it should seeing as im not running a custom rom.. Correct me if im wrong.. Lol
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You should be fine for OTA , since you are not using a custom ROM, not sure how the lagfix will affect the OTA install though(I am sure if anyway it will be negative), might be best to remove that before you install any OTA upgrades ....
So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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d1zturbe3d said:
So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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well i dont own a vibrant, but from what ive read ODIN is used to get back to stock or if u soft brick ur phone. go to the rom bible for vibrants and you can find easy instruction on how to use ODIN. and there are numerous videos on youtube showing how to use ODIN.
Good luck man
d1zturbe3d said:
So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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If you have read how to return to stock from a soft brick and are still lost, then I'd say definitely no!
Download Fusion if you do not want TouchWiz, or Bionix if you do. Stick with the stock kernel (for now).
Make sure you have Rom Manager and clockwork recovery working.
install titanium backup and backup all apps + data (I would not bother with system data).
Do a nandroid backup.
Flash your Fusion/Bionix.
If you ever want to go back, just restore your nandroid backup.
( All of these steps are in my signature in much greater detail if needed )
+1 to what s15274n posted.
The first time is always the most nerve-wracking. You've got a great phone, everything works great, & it wasn't cheap. The last thing you want to do is "do something" that might mess it up right? I was in that boat for a while and when I did flash a ROM, I was like..."I was worried why?"
It's pretty simple, I just made sure to sync my contacts/calendar, used AppBrain to sync my apps (you can use Titanium Backup to to this too but I didn't need/want to save any data) and then I was good to go.
I downloaded TGA's One Click Root/Unroot. Then after I made sure SuperUser was installed in the App Drawer I downloaded ROM Manager (Free from the Market), installed it, & ran it.
After that I clicked on ClockWork Recovery inside the app so it would download/install (it's a separate download but dependent upon ROM Manager). After that, I rebooted into recovery from within the ROM Manager. Followed the directions on the menu to perform a nandroid backup then I was good to go.
The directions for installing ROMs are in the beginning of all the ROMs threads plus there's a lot of good information in the Tip & Tricks sticky thread in General and the Team Whiskey site (Home of the Bionix ROMs) has a good writeup.
I tend to stick with the non-Froyo ROMs just because I use the GPS daily and we don't have the GPS drivers for Froyo yet. Eugene's Hybrid & Bionix Fusion are great ROMs to start with. Just pick one with the attributes you like and you won't go wrong.
Hope this helps a bit & have fun flashing,
~SB
Thank you all for your advice and help. I already downloaded Rom Manager and titanium back up all i have to do now is pick a rom and go for it...and i think i will actually pick one and do it later today.
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Flash away my friend. I must warn you that flashing is addictive!!
Always do a Nandroid backup before Flashing. If you screw up, you can always ODIN back to Stock. ODIN is your friend!!
When flashing, I prefer to flash through Clockwork Mod. You can flash through ODIN too but Clockwork is easier.
I would also suggest making sure you can get into Download mode without adb or terminal commands as well.
If you can't then you'll want to check the bible on the method to fix the hardware lock.
Also, if you haven't yet upgraded your phone to JI6, you should SIM unlock your phone (I believe you lose this option when you go to JI6) and backup the folder that has your unlock (should also be in the bible). You may never need it, but it's definitely a nice option to have, especially on a phone that can get the AT&T 3g signal (well, one radio band of it anyways).
Hey guys so I flashed my phone earlier today using the bionix stock rom. Everything went great but then I tried going back to stock using nandroid and my phone ended being stuck at the Vibrant logo screen. After realizing that it was stuck I just went back to the bionix rom. Anyone know why nandroid wasn't able to restore me back to my back up?
Also if I wanted to install another rom would I just download it and install it or would I would have to go back to stock then flash it??
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Sounds like you had the jac or kk kernel, and not the stock.
Nandroid doesn't restore the kernel, so you have to flash the stock kernel before.
Does the stock bionix come with a different kernel? Because I thought my kernel didn't change. I checked before and after flashing and my kernel was the same?
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Nope...stock Bionix is the regular JI6 kernel.
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even if you have the stock kernel of a custom Rom. when you do a nandroid restore your phone will be soft bricked. they say that after you restore, you have to flash the stock kernel too in the recovery mode.
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Aright I guess I need to download the j16 kernel
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I've got a little experience rooting the galaxy S, but on my girlfriend's Vibrant it was through a one click app in the market. I couldn't find a similar app for my new Fascinate and google wasn't helping too much. Can someone point me in the direction of the easiest method of rooting a 2.2.1 Verizon Fascinate please? I checked the stickies and didn't see it mentioned. Thanks in advance!
You could just flash Com Rom 2.0 and it'll root your phone.
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Sounds good to me. Can you give me a link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108991
Wait for more replies, though. I'm actually not 100% sure. >.<
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Actually, read this thread, second page, the second or third post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127110&page=2
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First download Community rom 2.0 (make sure it is one that comes with a kernel, either OTB or pbj), and put it on your sd card.
Next, download one of these recoveries and flash it via odin :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046905
Pull battery, odin the recovery in the PDA button in odin. When thats done, battery back in, hold volume up+down+power to enter cwm recovery. Flash the community rom and bingo.
I rooted my phone with this :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
Then flashed one of these using Odin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046905
What method do you use to keep app data and texts and such? I'm going to be doing this for a friend and with the Epic I had 1 reboot where I could dowload titanium after rooting and backup my stuff. Do you use the backup in Clockwork? She'll kill me if she loses all here data agaon (she was having screen flicker issues.) Telling her that she could backup her stuff is one of the main reasons she wants this. Also, I hear Verizon also uses Carrier IQ in their Roms. Has it been removed in either Community Rom or Evil Fascinate? We're very anti-CIQ in our forum.
Is 2.2.1 the latest fully updated version that unrooted fascinates are running? (Mine reads UKB 2.0, just curious as I forgot what mine was before flashing).
Can anyone loan me a hand? I just got my new Samsung Fascinate today and I really like it. Can anyone here help me root it? It's on
version 2.2.1.
Build Number: SCH-I500.ED04
Kernel V: 22.6.32.9
Model: SCH-I500
Hardware V:I500.04
If you can, please help me out. I'm familiar with jailbreaking iPhones and iPods but have never dealed with an Android.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046855&highlight=root+ed01
What he said... But if you want other roms, don't bother with unrooting.
Just update your recovery to the latest CWM and flash a new rom using CWM.
But I would make sure to read up before taking any steps further to make sure you know what steps to take.
Sorry, but I don't even know what a rom is. I'm familair with iPhone Jaibteaking and thats it. This is my first Android phone. All I Wanna do is be able to install the themes and tweaks and get free tethering. I'm sorry i don't know much.
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I had root on my Fascinate and then I updated OTA to Froyo 2.2.1 and lost root.
How do I root my Fascinate now?
FW=2.2.1
Kernel=2.6.32.9
Build=SCH-I500.ED04
Baseband=S:i500.04V.ED04
Thanks to you and all the help on XDA.
Same that was already posted above.... READ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046855&highlight=root+ed01
When I tried to download the "update.zip" file I get a 404 error.
Thanks
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What he said... But if you want other roms, don't bother with unrooting.
Just update your recovery to the latest CWM and flash a new rom using CWM.
But I would make sure to read up before taking any steps further to make sure you know what steps to take.
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I would go this route, load up ComRom 2.1 and get rid of the ED04 radio it has some issues. It's not as hard as it sounds to do this. Just read up and enjoy a better running phone.
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Same that was already posted above.... READ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046855&highlight=root+ed01
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I went to the page you suggested and when I tried to download the "update.zip" I get a 404 error.
What is next?
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I would go this route, load up ComRom 2.1 and get rid of the ED04 radio it has some issues. It's not as hard as it sounds to do this. Just read up and enjoy a better running phone.
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If this is the route you want to take (I highly recommend it as well), I would check out this thread or even this thread (although it is on Android Central, so you will need to make an account to see all the links if you don't already have one). They are pretty similar (the latter is a bit overboard on detail, but that can be a good thing if you are new to the process) and should at least get you started on learning what it is you need to learn to ultimately wind up at ComRom 2.1. I hope this helps!
Hello. I finally found out what a ROM was and how to use ODIN. I had my Uncle to ROOT my Fascinate when he was down this weekend. Last night, my phone got bricked or stuck in blue recovery and I had to flash it. Or restore it using ODIN. Anyhow, can you tell me the steps to get it rooted again with Odin & Evil Fascination? ClackWorkRecovery caused thus because I couldn't get it to work to install Com rom.
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For a better understanding, I want to do the following:
Steps to Rooting my SCH-I500 with Evil Fascinate
Getting clockworkmod working correctly
& Installing Com rom.
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For a better understanding, I want to do the following:
Steps to Rooting my SCH-I500 with Evil Fascinate
Getting clockworkmod working correctly
& Installing Com rom.
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Evil Fascination and Community Rom are two different roms and both will root your phone when flashed... this is how mine's set up for ComRom and it works flawlessly:
1) download odin, samsung mobile phone drivers, debloated/debinged/deodexed EB01 all in one package, CWR3-Voodoo, and ComRom 2.0 package of your choice and the 2.1 patch... place ComRom and its patch onto your sd card
2) use odin to install EB01
3) boot up phone once to let it format itself
4) power off phone and use odin to then install CWR3-Voodoo
5) boot straight into CWR, wipe data/cache/dalvik 3 times each and assuming you don't want to backup/restore data (I usually just use Titanium Backup app from the market) proceed to install .zip of ComRom 2.0
6) select reboot phone and let it boot up, it may take a while the first time
7) congrats, you're rooted and running ComRom 2.0
8) to install the patch simply hold the power button down until the menu pops up, select recovery
9) this will boot you into CWR again, no data/cache wipe necessary simply install .zip ComRom 2.1 patch then reboot phone again
10) congrats now you're rooted, voodoo'd, and running the latest ComRom
hope this helps, that's about as simple and short as I can make it
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Ok. Thanks for letting me know that. I had no idea there was a difference. I'm new to this stuff so. Yah. Anyways, I used that guys post to root my phone (the first reply with the link) and it worked for me. Can you give the the download links to all of the stuff up there that you mentioned? Or is there another thread that you go that from with a better understanding? With the links and all? I'm not sure what Voodoo is. I just want the Com Ron up and going. ;-) thanks =D
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Ok. Thanks for letting me know that. I had no idea there was a difference. I'm new to this stuff so. Yah. Anyways, I used that guys post to root my phone (the first reply with the link) and it worked for me. Can you give the the download links to all of the stuff up there that you mentioned? Or is there another thread that you go that from with a better understanding? With the links and all? I'm not sure what Voodoo is. I just want the Com Ron up and going. ;-) thanks =D
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this should give you a current recovery (CWM), I use the first one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046905
most everything else can be found in landsharks thread here: odin, the samsung drivers, debloated/deodexed EB01 and ED01, and how to install all of that (props to landshark68 for putting it all together)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048380
ComRom can be found here along with instructions on how to flash, changelogs to see whats been updated, known bugs... I would suggest reading the first few posts by nitsuj17 just to get familiar with it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108991
superchunkwii put up a pretty nice detailed thread on how to get to ComRom if you're at stock (or need to go to stock, then go to ComRom):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1053567
last but not least voodoo, these are the closest threads I could find that describe it (second one is a little better):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043673&highlight=voodoo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039897&highlight=voodoo
i know it might seem like information overload and a lot of reading, thats why i tried to simplify it in my instructions in my previous posts... if you download what you need from those threads then follow the steps I listed you shouldn't have any problems. If you do, don't worry we're here to help
Ok. From my understanding, CWR3-Voodoo is like the one click lag fix right? I'm actually using that on my phone now. When I'm on my computer later, ill go through all that and learn more about it and download everything and try it. =]
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Ok. From my understanding, CWR3-Voodoo is like the one click lag fix right? I'm actually using that on my phone now. When I'm on my computer later, ill go through all that and learn more about it and download everything and try it. =]
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yes it has an option for enabling/disabling lagfix but its optional.. even if you decide to flash a rom with no voodoo kernel you can still use that CWM with no worries
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Thanks. Since I'm allready rooted, can I skip to steps 20-24 and do that?
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Thanks. Since I'm allready rooted, can I skip to steps 20-24 and do that?
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yeah if you're rooted and running the baseband you want (ED01 or whatever) the boot into CWR and flash the rom you want... you're going to need to do a data/cache/dalvik wipe before flashing the initial ComRom 2.0 package so make any backups you want.. once its done installing reboot phone to make sure everything works right, then boot back into recovery and flash the patch (no wiping or anything needed) any questions or problems be sure to post them
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Thanks! I back up my stuff though Titanium back up. One thing though, how do I tell if I have CWR installed? Thanks for your help!
I am getting ready to root my bolt. I will use the revolution tool.
I want to flash thunderstick genII Rom. In the instructions they say to flash both radios. Is this needed if the phone being rooted has already been updated OTA? Shouldn't the radios be already updated?
Secondly, if it is safe to flash roms with Rom manager, will it know to flash the two radios?
Thanks!
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Radios are flashed in hboot ONLY! Look for a tutorial in the stickied topics
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From looking at the original post for the thunderstick genII Rom it is a sense gingerbread ROM. It will use "MR2+" radios most likely (please don't make add the disclaimer... I'm not responsible for you turning your phone into a paper weight). They will be MR2 or MR2.5 etc.
Long story short, you should use what the dev. of the ROM suggests for the radio. It typically gives the best performance, least chance of bugs, and best battery life for the ROM. Follow the instructions in the post using HBOOT (Power on with the volume down pressed).
From the original post:
"install these radios
To do so,
1 - Downloaded the "CDMA" first file below to the ROOT of your SDCARD,
2 - Name the file PG05IMG.zip and reboot to your boot loader.
3 - Then follow the the prompts to install the update. Delete the file immediately after reboot.
4 - Repeat these steps for the second file "LTE". And you will have a upgraded radio that will work great with this ROM."
Not sure if the address space is accessible from CWR for radios, so you have to use hboot. It can be dangerous. Follow the steps, and if it is you first time, do the research!!!! There are much more involved guides.
I'm guessing that since radios and roms are flashed in different modes - hboot and recovery - devs can't include radios?
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I'm guessing that since radios and roms are flashed in different modes - hboot and recovery - devs can't include radios?
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They wouldn't even if they could. There would be so many pissed users it wouldn't be funny. I'd be one of them. Nobody like flashing radios because its a far riskier deal.
Well to get thunderstick going I need to do both radios.
The tuts for flashing radios made it seem like flashing any other thing. Now you have me questioning doing this. This Rom is what I want from my phone...a tweaked sense rom.
If I'm right CWM let's you get to hboot to flash radios, right. And it let's you get to recovery to flash the Rom.
Jeez I came from a iPhone 3g and Jailbreaking was easy compared to this.
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Well to get thunderstick going I need to do both radios.
The tuts for flashing radios made it seem like flashing any other thing. Now you have me questioning doing this. This Rom is what I want from my phone...a tweaked sense rom.
If I'm right CWM let's you get to hboot to flash radios, right. And it let's you get to recovery to flash the Rom.
Jeez I came from a iPhone 3g and Jailbreaking was easy compared to this.
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For some reason I've notice a lot of people calling RomManager by "CWM" lately and for some reason it annoys me. ClockworkMod is the "company name" Koush uses to identify his apps/products. The app you are referring to is RomManager and the recovery is called ClockworkMod Recovery.
Anyway, neither CWR nor RomManager deal with hboot. You can place the file on your sdcard and manually boot to hboot (Pwr+VolDwn or the advanced power menu in some roms). Full instructions for this should not be needed here since they are all over the place including the pinned Q/A thread at the top of this subforum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220484
I'm sure this will come off harsher than it was intended. I just wanted to throw those things out there. Anyway, welcome to Android
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For some reason I've notice a lot of people calling RomManager by "CWM" lately and for some reason it annoys me. ClockworkMod is the "company name" Koush uses to identify his apps/products. The app you are referring to is RomManager and the recovery is called ClockworkMod Recovery.
Anyway, neither CWR nor RomManager deal with hboot. You can place the file on your sdcard and manually boot to hboot (Pwr+VolDwn or the advanced power menu in some roms). Full instructions for this should not be needed here since they are all over the place including the pinned Q/A thread at the top of this subforum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220484
I'm sure this will come off harsher than it was intended. I just wanted to throw those things out there. Anyway, welcome to Android
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Thank you for laying all that out there. I really cannot endorse what Absolute_Zero has to say about calling things by their proper names. When people don't do that, it gets VERY confusing when you try to help them.
Concerning ROM Manager, I don't see how it serves any useful purpose. Fixing permissions can be done just as well through a script like ScriptFusion or ClockworkMod Recovery. I know of no ROM dev that endorses flashing, wiping, backing up, or recovering through ROM Manager, which is a nice way of saying DO NOT USE ROM Manager. It's fairly reliable for flashing recoveries, but I've had issues with it even doing that right.
Just follow the instructions I've laid out for flashing radios. I've included all the links to every radio there. If you follow my directions, I can promise you with 99.9% certainty that your radio flash will go perfectly. It's nothing to be afraid of and nothing to really concern yourself with. Just don't go looking for the easy way of doing everything. This isn't a Motorola device and there's a lot more you can do outside of an app than with an app.
Actually being harsh is cool. When I said CWM I meant the recovery. I should have been more clear.
I will stay away from Rom manager and learn to flash the big boy way.
My last question is this...my SD card is pretty messy. What is the best advice to clear out the card after flashing thunderstick?
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gcodori said:
Actually being harsh is cool. When I said CWM I meant the recovery. I should have been more clear.
I will stay away from Rom manager and learn to flash the big boy way.
My last question is this...my SD card is pretty messy. What is the best advice to clear out the card after flashing thunderstick?
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The best way is to clean it up before flashing. Some ROMs install directories to the SDcard, but those should be clearly named. There's not really anything there that you can do that will render the phone junk. For me, it's just been a process of sorting through all the stuff, backing it up, formatting the card, and dropping the stuff I do want back on it.
Is there an option to format the SD card during flashing?
I have backed up my photos and any documents. After I copy over any videos I took, I would clear it out.
After installing a dozen or more apps, the card looks like a mess.
There's three folders with music in it, etc. Why can't there be an app folder with subdirectories for each app?
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Is there an option to format the SD card during flashing?
I have backed up my photos and any documents. After I copy over any videos I took, I would clear it out.
After installing a dozen or more apps, the card looks like a mess.
There's three folders with music in it, etc. Why can't there be an app folder with subdirectories for each app?
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You can format it either in CWR, Android, or on a computer.
Rooted today with revolution. Pretty easy but it didn't install clockwork. Had to run it again. I noticed Rom manager doesnt recognize clockwork as installed. I wasn't planning on using Rom manager but was curious about this.
One last question before flashing thunderstick...if something fails and I revert to the nandroid backup, does that revert back to the old radio? I need to flash both radios and want to know if I can fall back to the backup if it fails.
Thanks.
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Rooted today with revolution. Pretty easy but it didn't install clockwork. Had to run it again. I noticed Rom manager doesnt recognize clockwork as installed. I wasn't planning on using Rom manager but was curious about this.
One last question before flashing thunderstick...if something fails and I revert to the nandroid backup, does that revert back to the old radio? I need to flash both radios and want to know if I can fall back to the backup if it fails.
Thanks.
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Nandroid backups don't include radios.
gcodori said:
Rooted today with revolution. Pretty easy but it didn't install clockwork. Had to run it again. I noticed Rom manager doesnt recognize clockwork as installed. I wasn't planning on using Rom manager but was curious about this.
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RomManager will only recognize CWR as being installed if RomManager itself is what was used to flash it.
I'm dealing with this same thing (flashing Radios). I recently rooted my device (after having it since release) and froze the bloat. I never flashed a ROM and want to look to see if it's possible to find a ROM for my Thunderbolt that does not need me to change the Radio. If I don't Flash a ROM I'm more than happy with having root and dealing with the crapware and installing apps I couldn't use before. Good Luck. Enjoy your device.
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I'm dealing with this same thing (flashing Radios). I recently rooted my device (after having it since release) and froze the bloat. I never flashed a ROM and want to look to see if it's possible to find a ROM for my Thunderbolt that does not need me to change the Radio. If I don't Flash a ROM I'm more than happy with having root and dealing with the crapware and installing apps I couldn't use before. Good Luck. Enjoy your device.
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What's you apprehension about flashing a radio?
I flashed the 802 radio right after installing NonS3ns3v2 on my Tbolt. Everything went fine and seems to be running smoothly.