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Hi All,
I'm seeking the opinion of current Rose owners.
The north american version of the Rose is about to be released in Canada (labelled as HTC S743) It looks to be identical in all respects to the S740 except that the radio is adjusted for north american 3G frequencies.
I'm currently using the S730 and I used to have a VOX until my wife decided that she liked it. When I look at the specs for the S743 and the reviews online, my initial reaction is that I MUST have one. But before I go out and spend that kind of money, my questions for you Rose owners are:
Do you find it more responsive than its predecessors? (Wings, Vox)
Does it fit comfortably in your pocket or would you recommend getting a belt-case?
How is the battery life given moderate use? (~1 hour talking each day, bluetooth always on, Directpush mail enabled during working hours)
If you could change one thing about your Rose, what would it be?
I appreciate any opinions you have to offer.
Thanks,
Canuk
Canuk said:
Hi All,
I'm seeking the opinion of current Rose owners.
The north american version of the Rose is about to be released in Canada (labelled as HTC S743) It looks to be identical in all respects to the S740 except that the radio is adjusted for north american 3G frequencies.
I'm currently using the S730 and I used to have a VOX until my wife decided that she liked it. When I look at the specs for the S743 and the reviews online, my initial reaction is that I MUST have one. But before I go out and spend that kind of money, my questions for you Rose owners are:
Do you find it more responsive than its predecessors? (Wings, Vox)
Does it fit comfortably in your pocket or would you recommend getting a belt-case?
How is the battery life given moderate use? (~1 hour talking each day, bluetooth always on, Directpush mail enabled during working hours)
If you could change one thing about your Rose, what would it be?
I appreciate any opinions you have to offer.
Thanks,
Canuk
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Not sure if i am a good reference, since i am absolutely in love with this device. am still trying to answer your questions:
More responsive? absolutely so. owned a vox before that, and these two devices are worlds apart. both processor power and ram wise (ran out of ram on the vox on several occasions resulting in program crashes when simultaniously running nav software and pocket player for example. never happened with the rose so far, and doubt it ever will. not even gonna start talking about lockups on the vox because of the rather feeble processor.)
Will it fit a pocket? depends on your pocket i suppose. fits fine in mine (i do not wear baggy pants. its not really that large anyways. compared to the vox: same depth, slimmer, but a bit longer.)
battery life moderate use? mine lasts for about 24 hours. not sure if that could be a reference point tho: fairly heavy browsing, 3g and bluetooth and ActiveSync push on 24/7, tons of progs running in the background, a2dp stream for 2-3 hours, sometimes some wifi. itll definately last from morning till sometime around midnight.
if i could change one thing? acquiring my baby ripped quite a big hole into my pocket back then...
hope that helps,
.-ombre-.
Released in Canada by whom, and where???
I just got one last week. If you like the Vox & Wings then you'll absolutely love the Rose.
This phone is very responsive. The typical annoyance of HTC smartpones like: unresponsive keypad, d-pad that occasionally missed when action key is pressed are gone. The addition of GPS is a big welcome.
Regarding the size, It's a bit longer but narrower, so it felt good on the palm and can be easily slipped into the pocket. I use a landyard and carry it naked.
Regarding battery life: I push my email and let my messanger on all day and the battery can last for the whole day. So the battery is good.
If I could change one thing: I wish it has video call ability like the wings.
Thanks for your feedback. I really appreciate it and you have helped me make my decision.
Ombre - I share your pain on the cash outlay! Fortunately this would qualify as a legitimate business expense for me so I don't have to shoulder the entire $$ burden myself.
Kardboard - It was supposed to be released on Expansys this Monday, but I've just checked the site and it seems we are going to have to wait for a couple more weeks.
Thanks again!
Canuk
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I'm using HTC S740 for two months now. It is polish language version(I'm from Poland) and there are few things a bit irritating.
First of all, the WM6.1 apps, like Comm Manager, IE, QuickGPS and such, can't be closed other way, than by using task manager. There is an option in Comm Manager labelled "Close" but it doesn't work.
Office, which was installed by HTC, is useless: I can't copy text from any text files. Yesterday I wrote long letter to my friend using Office, I wanted to send it via MMS. I couldn't copy the text, and when I sent her the whole file as attachment to MMS, she got some squares instead of letters.
IE and Opera are terribly slow. Opera is also terribly unstable. I can't login to some sites because even if I select the "log in" button, I can't "click" it. Odd.
CHome Configurator can't edit most of panels on my screen. I can't either add new panels.
And there is also battery cover, which is not holding to the phne well enough, but I think it's only in my phone. Besides, the plastic lens protector is often hard to clean-up and is distorting the photos. It should be made of glass...
And it would be nice to have push-to-talk available as it is rather software-made. The commercial software for PTT can't interface with standard protocol used by my GSM operator, because it uses its own standards and can work only with other phones with proper software installed. And because my friends are using Nokias with native PTT support, I can't communicate with them via PTT...
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AVE...
I'm using HTC S740 for two months now. It is polish language version(I'm from Poland) and there are few things a bit irritating.
First of all, the WM6.1 apps, like Comm Manager, IE, QuickGPS and such, can't be closed other way, than by using task manager. There is an option in Comm Manager labelled "Close" but it doesn't work.
Office, which was installed by HTC, is useless: I can't copy text from any text files. Yesterday I wrote long letter to my friend using Office, I wanted to send it via MMS. I couldn't copy the text, and when I sent her the whole file as attachment to MMS, she got some squares instead of letters.
IE and Opera are terribly slow. Opera is also terribly unstable. I can't login to some sites because even if I select the "log in" button, I can't "click" it. Odd.
CHome Configurator can't edit most of panels on my screen. I can't either add new panels.
And there is also battery cover, which is not holding to the phne well enough, but I think it's only in my phone. Besides, the plastic lens protector is often hard to clean-up and is distorting the photos. It should be made of glass...
And it would be nice to have push-to-talk available as it is rather software-made. The commercial software for PTT can't interface with standard protocol used by my GSM operator, because it uses its own standards and can work only with other phones with proper software installed. And because my friends are using Nokias with native PTT support, I can't communicate with them via PTT...
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Maybe you're using Opera 9.5 for the PPC and not the SP one (there's no opera 9.5 for the SP).
Just use Iris Browser, latest versions are very good.
Urgon said:
AVE...
I'm using HTC S740 for two months now. It is polish language version(I'm from Poland) and there are few things a bit irritating.
First of all, the WM6.1 apps, like Comm Manager, IE, QuickGPS and such, can't be closed other way, than by using task manager. There is an option in Comm Manager labelled "Close" but it doesn't work.
Office, which was installed by HTC, is useless: I can't copy text from any text files. Yesterday I wrote long letter to my friend using Office, I wanted to send it via MMS. I couldn't copy the text, and when I sent her the whole file as attachment to MMS, she got some squares instead of letters.
IE and Opera are terribly slow. Opera is also terribly unstable. I can't login to some sites because even if I select the "log in" button, I can't "click" it. Odd.
CHome Configurator can't edit most of panels on my screen. I can't either add new panels.
And there is also battery cover, which is not holding to the phne well enough, but I think it's only in my phone. Besides, the plastic lens protector is often hard to clean-up and is distorting the photos. It should be made of glass...
And it would be nice to have push-to-talk available as it is rather software-made. The commercial software for PTT can't interface with standard protocol used by my GSM operator, because it uses its own standards and can work only with other phones with proper software installed. And because my friends are using Nokias with native PTT support, I can't communicate with them via PTT...
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To do Cut/Paste, switch/Kill taks, use Smart Tool Kit, it's free:
http://smarttoolkit.wordpress.com/download/
About CHome, I can add windows Live, Contacts (several pages) without any problems.
Opera for smartphone is only version 8.5. Use OperaMini, it's really good and free.
AVE...
[email protected]
This program is great. Thank you.
And yes, I used wrong version of Opera. But for now I'll use Iris...
There are also two programs I wish to recommend for any Rose user:
Mobipocket Reader - for ebooks;
Palringo - for IM.
I used Mobipocket Reader before with Nokia E50(Symbian s60v3) and I must tell you: it's very good piece of freeware.
On the other hand Palringo has limited functionality. It can connect with many IM protocols(unfortunately not with Gadu-Gadu), but it has some functions I like: it can send voice messages and photos to anyone on IM contact list and it works well with Jabber transports. I tried few Jabber clients, but they didn't worked well enough...
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To do Cut/Paste, switch/Kill taks, use Smart Tool Kit, it's free:
http://smarttoolkit.wordpress.com/download/...QUOTE]
I must say, also for me is it a nuisance (and incomprehensible) that you can't select text in Word Mobile to copy/cut/paste it.
Actually it makes Word Mobile a useless app.
So I tried Smarttoolkit, but I have a few major problems when running Smarttoolkit (S740 often slows down / freezes, programs folder is empty) and I can't find the edit function.
So, while it seems to have some nice tools, is seems an unfinished product and the option I installed it for doesn't seem to work (or maybe I'm a bit stupid).
Anyone have another solution to select text in Word Mobile ?
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I'm fresh from a nokia e61, here's my take after about a week's worth of use:
Responsiveness is as fast as most smartphones on the market today. Not exactly dumbphone-snappy, but not nearly slow enough to get in your way. The only thing that might bug you is the one-second delay you get when you slide the thing open and shut on anything except the home screen; personally, I didn't mind it that much.
Does it fit comfortably in your pocket or would you recommend getting a belt-case?
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Funny you should ask that…when I first cracked the box open, it had a sticker on the screen that said, I quote, "remove phone from pants pocket before sitting down." Found it kinda ironic, as it's not nearly hefty or bulky enough to actually warrant such a label. To be fair, it's rather hefty compared to most phones, and in fact about as thick as a whiteboard marker. I've found the design hides its bulk quite well (the faceted back cover in fact makes it look slimmer than it is).
Battery life was disappointing, frankly, but as a disclaimer, my previous phone had a ridiculously long-lasting battery for a smartphone. I'm able to pull about a day's worth of usage with auto-checking email every 5 minutes, about 8 texts in and out, 3G on, and light wifi browsing.
Change? I only wish there was some kind of quick-launch panel on the main menu that would let me scroll through and fire up any application I want. Also, kinda ties into the previous point, but a more efficient task-switcher would be welcome. I've noticed the home button doesn't do much else aside from…well…take you home. It would be nice if they mapped a long press of that button to some kind of juiced up task manager.
Another thing that bugs me is the inconsistent function of the "back" button. In some apps it deletes, in other times (like menu navigation) it takes you to the previously viewed menu/app, some other times it serves as a back button from within an application.
As for fortes, I think the best feature would be HTC's homescreen GUI overlay. It's extremely functional and logical, listing clock, calendar, missed calls and alerts, messaging, mail, etc, etc. I've found it to be so functional, in fact, that I hardly ever dive into the (admittedly rather unsightly) underlying WinMo menus. For most information you might need at-a-glance from your mobile, the homescreen certainly delivers.
Just my take. Hope it helps you, or if not, some other forum-lurker or prospective buyer.
peseta said:
[email protected] said:
To do Cut/Paste, switch/Kill taks, use Smart Tool Kit, it's free:
http://smarttoolkit.wordpress.com/download/...QUOTE]
I must say, also for me is it a nuisance (and incomprehensible) that you can't select text in Word Mobile to copy/cut/paste it.
Actually it makes Word Mobile a useless app.
So I tried Smarttoolkit, but I have a few major problems when running Smarttoolkit (S740 often slows down / freezes, programs folder is empty) and I can't find the edit function.
So, while it seems to have some nice tools, is seems an unfinished product and the option I installed it for doesn't seem to work (or maybe I'm a bit stupid).
Anyone have another solution to select text in Word Mobile ?
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Try Vito CopyPaste.
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Hi ninethreetwo,
Thanks for the input. I definitely prefer to carry the phone in my pocket. I've had some larger phones in the past that were too big for pockets (Blue Angel, Harrier, Palm 700wx) and I just couldn't find a convenient place to put the belt case. I was always catching in on things or crushing it when I got in to the car. One of the reasons for buying a Vox was the compact and "pocket friendly" form factor.
ninethreetwo said:
Change? I only wish there was some kind of quick-launch panel on the main menu that would let me scroll through and fire up any application I want. Also, kinda ties into the previous point, but a more efficient task-switcher would be welcome. I've noticed the home button doesn't do much else aside from…well…take you home. It would be nice if they mapped a long press of that button to some kind of juiced up task manager.
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I can relate. My one complaint about many of the smartphone interfaces is that it oftentimes takes too many clicks to get what I want. On the Wings I modificed the HTC interface slightly to include the recent apps gui (like in the default interface) which helped tremendously.
Thanks again for your feedback! I appreciate the time that you and the other contributers to this thread have taken to provide such considered and detailed responses.
Thanks,
Canuk
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I must say, also for me is it a nuisance (and incomprehensible) that you can't select text in Word Mobile to copy/cut/paste it.
Actually it makes Word Mobile a useless app.
So I tried Smarttoolkit, but I have a few major problems when running Smarttoolkit (S740 often slows down / freezes, programs folder is empty) and I can't find the edit function.
So, while it seems to have some nice tools, is seems an unfinished product and the option I installed it for doesn't seem to work (or maybe I'm a bit stupid).
Anyone have another solution to select text in Word Mobile ?
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You can select text in Word Mobile. As Master Yoda would say: "use the [shift] key, Luke". Simply open file, select EDIT, place cursor where you want to start your selection, hold down [shift] and scroll down with D-Pad.
Next, for SmartToolkit work you must install RC8 version. Also in Control Panel>General set "On Homescreen" to be "SmartToolkit Taskbar", and in Control Panel > Hotkeys set [Clipboard] to be your D-Pad button. This way you will be able to use your standard options on Homescreen made by HTC and in the same time use SmartToolkit. And in Control Panel > Gadgets you can create easy-accessed shortcuts and Pop-up Launcher lists with your programs, it's very useful.
It looks like this:
ninethreetwo said:
Change? I only wish there was some kind of quick-launch panel on the main menu that would let me scroll through and fire up any application I want. Also, kinda ties into the previous point, but a more efficient task-switcher would be welcome. I've noticed the home button doesn't do much else aside from…well…take you home. It would be nice if they mapped a long press of that button to some kind of juiced up task manager.
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You can use CHome Configurator (grab the CAB from the Excalibur board) to add shorcuts to favorite applications at the home panels (See attached screenshot). It's very easy, here are the steps:
1. Open CHome Configurator
2. Show 'CLinks' and hilight it and press action to customize
3. Then Go to 'Menu/Page/New'
4. Then in the new page, click 'Menu\Template\Application Launcher'
5. Select the application that you want, set the name & icon
6. Repeat the procedure for as many shortcut as you like
7. Once finished, save at exit.
Other alternative is to use quick launcher application like xBar, RightMenu, SmartToolKit or just use a different theme which use rjshorcut plugins. The best place to get S740 themes is here:
http://www.nectun.com/galerie.php?langue=en&id_type_skin=-1&id_type_tel=15
Use this free Theme Changer to compliment the themes that you download:
http://www.ifihadadollarforeverytimesomeonesaidthatiwouldhavemyownwebsite.com/ThemeChanger/
To remapped the home key, you can use software like AEButtonPlus or Hotbutton Plus
Cheers!
Thenext1 and Urgon, thank you for your replies.
I downloaded Vito CopyPaste version 1.3 and installed it.
It does work (e.g. in Mail), however for some reason doesn't in Word Mobile.
Very disappointing
The selection method of shift+D-pad works, so at last I can edit text afterwards.
However copy/cut/paste with ctrl+C/X/V doesn't work in Word Mobile.
This (regular) option however works in other apps (e.g. Mail, SMS, Contacts).
I also installed SmartToolkit RC08 and changed the settings as suggested.
It certainly works now very well and isn't intrusive for the Home screen with HTC sliding panels. It also (for now) doesn't slow down or freeze (like I experienced with RC09).
But, while I can get copy/cut/paste working in other applications, also this doesn't work in Word Mobile.
Is somehow in Word Mobile the possibility of using copy/cut/paste blocked ?
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It shall work, certainly works for me. You have to hold down the D-pad button for 0,5 seconds to access clipboard menu. It may be also required to restart your phone in order to make it work.
Below you can see my clipboard menu in Word Mobile.
BTW, the whole Office package is useless, because you can't create new documents.
Urgon said:
AVE...
It shall work, certainly works for me. You have to hold down the D-pad button for 0,5 seconds to access clipboard menu. It may be also required to restart your phone in order to make it work.
Below you can see my clipboard menu in Word Mobile.
BTW, the whole Office package is useless, because you can't create new documents.
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I agree, especially Word mobile is completely useless, even for opening documents created on a PC.
Excel sort-of works when opening documents.
Powerpoint instead is near-perfect.
Well, I tried copy/paste again with SmartToolkit in Word Mobile and now it worked. Must have done something wrong before.
That Word Mobile is a very crippled text editor is certainly true.
But sometimes you really need a text-editor and beggars can't be choosers.
On my reliable iPAQ hx4700 I use Textmaker, almost as powerfull as the Windows version, which is one of the best alternatives for MS Word. The same is true for Planmaker (PPC an Windows versions) as alternative for Excel.
The problem of not being able to create a new document or worksheet in WinMo 6 Standard can be solved easily bij copying an empty .doc and an empty.xls file from your PC to your Smartphone. Use these files and save them as another file afer editing (so you keep the empty files unchanged)
A more elegant solution is the free donew (I believe I saw this tip in one of the threads in this Rose forum, so credits where they are due): it creates 2 extra links in "Office Mobile" to an empty Word and empty Excel file.
Canuk said:
Do you find it more responsive than its predecessors? (Wings, Vox)
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I only had a few moments with Vox, but I would say that difference is quite noticable. Especially RAM is an overkill on Rose.
Canuk said:
Does it fit comfortably in your pocket or would you recommend getting a belt-case?
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I always carry it in my pocket without a problem. It isn't the thinniest phone in the world, though.
Canuk said:
How is the battery life given moderate use? (~1 hour talking each day, bluetooth always on, Directpush mail enabled during working hours)
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I would say 1.5 day on average. Mine lasts between 1 to 3 days depending on usage.
Canuk said:
If you could change one thing about your Rose, what would it be?
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Hard to say really, it doesn't miss much. I would like it a little bit thinner.
LightJacker 1.0.3
Universal backlight fix / TomTom backlight fix
for WM5 & Up
Hi guys! I just installed TomTom on my S740 and found it still has that annoying bug where the backlight keeps going off, so I decided I would write my own app to fix this problem.
It features completely transparent operation with backlight resuming normal function when the target app is not focused (i.e. when one minimizes TomTom), universal-ness so it can be applied to any app, lightweightness, and doesn't touch the system in any way.
In future, I may also expand it to support configurable key-to-key and key-to-mouse translation, to make some PocketPC-only apps usable also on the Smartphone.
For the interested, see all the details at the program's webpage.
And let me know what you think about it.
Thank you!
Thanks! I think it is a great idea!
I have been looking around for such app to keep the backlight always on when necessary - e.g. reading e-books, watching video and etc.
My feedback is it may be a little troublesome to do the link to each application you want to apply?
Is it possible to make it a background app, whereby when turned on it keep the backlight on always, but when turned off it revert back to the default setting in Power management.
Thanks.
zhuozhi211 said:
Thanks! I think it is a great idea!
I have been looking around for such app to keep the backlight always on when necessary - e.g. reading e-books, watching video and etc.
My feedback is it may be a little troublesome to do the link to each application you want to apply?
Is it possible to make it a background app, whereby when turned on it keep the backlight on always, but when turned off it revert back to the default setting in Power management.
Thanks.
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I've put on my web page an easier semi-automatic procedure for creating the link, you just have to enter the path to the executable and the name for your shortcut, and download the ready-made .lnk file (be warned that it doesn't work with firefox, though, but it does with IE and Opera.)
I don't think it's so difficult and time-consuming now
There already are apps or mortscritps that do what you want, I.e. changing the systemwide setting, but it is exactly what I don't want to do: impose additional hassle on the user having to start/stop an app, and mess with registry and systemwide settings... I wanted LightJacker to be as invisible to the use as it could.
Hi there thenext1, I tried your app and the set up was fine and it works great, so thanks very much for that. I like the way it picks up the icon from the original app, this got me thinking that you could make an adaption of your app that just injected a new icon into a shortcut for any app and that is all it would do, just to change the icon for any app and nothing else, if you see what I mean, sorry to be a little off topic but just a thought. I have some apps that have horrible Icons I would like a simple way of adding my own Icon into a shortcut. "IconJacker"
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Hi there thenext1, I tried your app and the set up was fine and it works great, so thanks very much for that. I like the way it picks up the icon from the original app, this got me thinking that you could make an adaption of your app that just injected a new icon into a shortcut for any app and that is all it would do, just to change the icon for any app and nothing else, if you see what I mean, sorry to be a little off topic but just a thought. I have some apps that have horrible Icons I would like a simple way of adding my own Icon into a shortcut. "IconJacker"
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That function is outside LightJacker's scope, anyway, you can try editing the .lnk file and changing the last path after the "?" mark to reflect a path to an .ico file on your phone, and editing the last number to be zero or remove it with the comma altogether.
I don't know if it will work.
Perfect idea! Sounds like a super program!! I have been looking for a feature like this!
A question: can it monitor several programs also? (e.g. Tomtom and igo and acrobat reader)? Seems like the shortcut generator can only support one program...
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Perfect idea! Sounds like a super program!! I have been looking for a feature like this!
A question: can it monitor several programs also? (e.g. Tomtom and igo and acrobat reader)? Seems like the shortcut generator can only support one program...
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Just create a shortcut for each of your program.... be warned though, I didn't test multiple programs at once. It might not work.
Has anyone gotten this to work with an HTC Touch Pro? I've tried installing this - and after I create the shortcut, and click the master app I'm trying to keep lighted - I get the following error message:
"The file 'ljack' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file."
When I click on the ljack.exe file on it's own - I get the following message:
"LightJacker error 2"
I'd read that another program that requires a purchase, "smartlight" was incompatible with our phones, so I'm wondering if it's something unique to the Touch Pro.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
Has anyone gotten this to work with an HTC Touch Pro? I've tried installing this - and after I create the shortcut, and click the master app I'm trying to keep lighted - I get the following error message:
"The file 'ljack' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file."
When I click on the ljack.exe file on it's own - I get the following message:
"LightJacker error 2"
I'd read that another program that requires a purchase, "smartlight" was incompatible with our phones, so I'm wondering if it's something unique to the Touch Pro.
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Error 2 means that an incorrect command line was supplied - in your case, no cmd line at all.
The other error with the proper shortcut is a windows mobile generic error, and I don't know why it comes up, it should run fine as it does when start ljack.exe on its own....
Maybe your phone isn't fully app-unlocked?
A super idea for a program! however, a GUI would be nice....
command-line options are not very handy. And I think that is where the Error 2 comes from. I also had trouble using your .lnk maker.
Hmmm, your site seems to be down.
Any chance you could upload the cab here on xda?
Yes, I confirm...
I tried several times.... The website is dead since this morning. So, no chance to download this promissing application until now.
For a very similar app go here:
http://oldsap.blogspot.com/2009/02/dontsleep.html
there is a version which prevents the PPC from entering standby, and one that does it only while wifi is on. Also a great app!
arturobandini said:
Yes, I confirm...
I tried several times.... The website is dead since this morning. So, no chance to download this promissing application until now.
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You are right! Will investigate the problem.
@parkhaus: what'd be the GUI for?
I would love to have a program that keeps the backlight on when certain programs are running (Adobe reader, Tomtom, ebook reader, etc).
A menu for defining those programs would be great! making shortcuts for each program is a bit too complicated for most users.
A solution in MortScript you can find here
Note: knowledge of german language is required
parkhaus said:
I would love to have a program that keeps the backlight on when certain programs are running (Adobe reader, Tomtom, ebook reader, etc).
A menu for defining those programs would be great! making shortcuts for each program is a bit too complicated for most users.
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An utility in .NET CF can be easily made, but I absolutely don't have any spare time to do it.
Or you can use the method provided by the above users, although it's the old method of changing values in the registry.
Thankyou very much, I needed an app like this for Memory-Map OS5 (App for Off-road satnav in the UK).
I don't suppose you use winmo 6.5 do you? I have another problem with that app in 6.5 where it has icons along the bottom like 6.5 does - however, as 6.5 changes the width of the icons at the bottom, I cannot see all the icons when in the app. If there is any chance you could also code something to alter the size of the bottom buttons whilst in a certain app, that would be even better!
There is a free trial @ http://www.memory-map.co.uk/ should you care to try and code this in.
OK, I used and tested this with TomTom and Memory-Map, and all seems good.
A couple of things, however.
As the size of the app is so small, why go around duplicating it?
Personally, I found that putting LightJacker in \Program Files\LightJack and then doing my app shortcuts like this:
107#"\Program Files\LightJack\ljack.exe" \Program Files\Navigator\TomTom Navigator.exe?TomTom Navigator.exe,101
Meant that I could:
a) Only keep one copy of lightjacker for multiple apps. If there is an update, you only need replace the exe and dll once.
b) Use the shortcuts anywhere. I have one shortcut in the start menu, and one in the app folder. That way, if you have to pick an app via a folder list that starts in the root, you do not have to navigate through the windows folder to get to the start folder, which takes ages
Working on Rhodium (ATT Tilt2 - WM 6.5)
This works on my Tilt2, but with the following tweaks.
The author's site recommends this format for the .lnk file, but this didn't work for me. It produced and Error 4:
123#"\Storage Card\Program Files\GoogleMaps\ljack.exe" GoogleMaps.exe?\Storage Card\Program Files\GoogleMaps\GoogleMaps.exe,101
But using the format in the previous post, it works - the backlight stays on while this program is the front program, and the backlight dims properly when the program goes into the background or is shut down:
123#"\Storage Card\Program Files\GoogleMaps\ljack.exe" \Storage Card\Program Files\GoogleMaps\GoogleMaps.exe?GoogleMaps.exe,101
The only thing not working is the icon. Following the advice on the author's site, I used Resource Hacker to find the Resource ID for the icon, which appears to be 800. But changing that in the link file stilll results in the link showing a generic icon.
Any suggestions on how to get the proper icon to show in the Start Menu for Google Maps?
Even 2 weeks with SGS2 I have troubles to get internet experience as I would like it (and as I expected it to be). Can anyone help me to answer at least one of these questions ?
1.) Are there some other browsers besides Opera Mobile that can do pinch zoom
with text reflow (and I mean exactly how it works in Opera Mobile) ? For
some reasons which go totally beyond me this feature seems to be
"uninteresting" for Android developers
2.) Are there some browsers where you can do fast switching between two
modes of opening links ? (like left click vs. mid click on desktop browsers)
mode 1: click on link = open in active window
mode 2: click on link = open on background in new tab
I need to be able to execute those opens in both modes very quickly which
means by single fast click, otherwise (e.g.: pressing link until popup is
shown) browsing feels terribly sluggish. For example good way of switching
between two modes could be by gestures ?
3.) Alternatively to second question - is there some other good way how to be
able to open fast in active window and also in background new tab (without
switching modes) ? E.g. double clicking on link = open in new tab... ?
4.) Currently I have about 11 web browsers installed and when I click on some
URLs in default browser (Miren browser as well) it will ask me
"Complete action using" with list of all installed browsers. Set default works
only for session its self at best. How do I get rid of it once and for all ?
How can I make it open in the browser from which it was clicked on ? (which
is like the only possible action which I think could ever make sense - so
again - this annoying "feature" of letting you choose which browser to use
goes totally beyond me Anyone can explain to me why someone
would like to have it like that ?)
5.) How can Samsung release default browser which seems to have major flaws
- like impossible to permanently set desktop mode without hacks ? (For a
supposedly best browser phone on the market - moreover the UA string for
desktop is actually not recognized as desktop on ALL web sites)
Checkerboards while scrolling ? No pinch zoom with text reflow (opera style)
? Most likely impossible to permanently set default action (see. 4.) with
multiple browsers installed (without hacks).
Does this mean Samsung doesn't care about the most important
application in the entire phone ? Does it mean it will stay like this also in
official future updates ?
6.) Is it possible to ask for some of this features "somewhere" with chances of
"someone" listening and implementing them ?
comrad said:
Even 2 weeks with SGS2 I have troubles to get internet experience as I would like it (and as I expected it to be). Can anyone help me to answer at least one of these questions ?
6.) Is it possible to ask for some of this features "somewhere" with chances of
"someone" listening and implementing them ?
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Write to Samsung .
Contact developers of Browsers .
Set up a fund for a developer to develop what you require .
jje
comrad said:
4.) Currently I have about 11 web browsers installed and when I click on some URLs in default browser (Miren browser as well) it will ask me
"Complete action using" with list of all installed browsers. Set default works
only for session its self at best. How do I get rid of it once and for all ?
How can I make it open in the browser from which it was clicked on ? (which
is like the only possible action which I think could ever make sense - so
again - this annoying "feature" of letting you choose which browser to use
goes totally beyond me Anyone can explain to me why someone
would like to have it like that ?)
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That's because the browser that came with the phone is still set as default. From your home screen, go to Settings > Applications > Manage applications > All (tab at the top) then find "Internet" on the list, click on it and in the bit that says "Launch by default" click on "Clear defaults". After that, whichever browser you select with the "complete action using" and provided you tick the set as default box underneath before clicking on it, will then stick as the default browser
JJEgan said:
Write to Samsung .
Contact developers of Browsers .
Set up a fund for a developer to develop what you require .
jje
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Or I can do it myself, right ? Excellent. The thing is I am quite sure there are many more people that would appreciate e.g. "text reflow with pinch zoom" so I don't exactly understand why I should pay for development of overall useful feature like that - similarly if you had a web browser that doesn't have any way to input URL you could hardly say that if I want to enter URL I should pay for developing this feature. I consider pinch zoom text reflow to be essential on any mobile browser. Maybe not all people consider it essential but lot's of do. (and those who don't consider it essential would probably used it as well if it was an option in their browser)
Also - why do we have well defined actions on desktop browsers like left clicks and mid clicks (all major desktop browser have it like that) and on the other hand they don't have long press link popup menu with options "open in new tab" (no major desktop browser has it like that - because it would be slow and tedious) So if it makes sense to have those actions on desktop I don't see why it wouldn't make sense on mobile as well. Or why this should be a feature that I would need to pay for. (I don't need to pay for it on any desktop browser where it is a common standard for many years as tabbed browsing is etc.) If this feature is not viewed by majority as essential then I think either majority of users don't realize they would benefit from it or they genuinely don't need it (in which case that would be quite surprising to me - due to fact it is so common on desktops)
At last: regarding Samsung - I have already payed for the phone for which I expect the stock browser to work and I don't think that impossibility to permanently set desktop mode or checkerboards when scrolling qualifies as an OK working product. In this case I am quite sure it is not up to me to pay more money to get right what should have already worked at the moment I purchased the phone. Btw if the stock browser would work OK I wouldn't need any other browser to replace it. (nor to pay for the development process as you suggest)
Isadora said:
After that, whichever browser you select with the "complete action using" and provided you tick the set as default box underneath before clicking on it, will then stick as the default browser
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Thanks - I wanted to be able to always open link in whatever browser I clicked on it - not just to set default browser. (because e.g. Miren browser also shows this pop-up menu and also uses application set in there). Something like that should be possible right ? However now (following your advice) I was at least able to set Internet as "default" and for reasons unknown to me now it will stick as default even after reboot). Yet to make all "Internet" links open in "Internet" and all "Miren" links to open in "Miren" somehow doesn't seem possible (without pop-ups). For now it's quite OK to have at least "Internet" links open by "Internet".
However here is again my favorite desktop analogy:
If on desktop PC I couldn't make open links in the same browser they were clicked on - the PC would probably very soon ended up being thrown over the window. So either I am stupid and there exists some easy and totally obvious solution how to do it on Android or otherwise the whole thing is just absurd.
Hello, does the absence of answers mean that 1.) indeed can not be enabled on any other browser besides Opera Mobile and 2.) can not be done on any Android browser ? And so on...
Or does it mean that none knows / doesn't care ?
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Or does it mean that none knows / doesn't care ?
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Probably no one thinks it is that important. Since you have 11 browsers installed i think you are probably the best qualified person to tell others which browser supports what. If i make a poll, i doubt more than 1 % of the galaxy s 2 users have more than 4 browsers installed. You might get a place in Guinness Book World Records with 11
comrad said:
Does this mean Samsung doesn't care about the most important
application in the entire phone ? Does it mean it will stay like this also in
official future updates ?
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Interestingly I thought the most important feature on the phone was the ability to make a receive calls...
As stated in thread title: Is there a way to disable the swipe between tabs gesture for Chrome on Android?
The gesture interferes with my ability to use certain websites that I now rely on that currently do not have an app for Android. I've tried searching for an answer to this and I've just been flooded sifting through irrelevant results for Mac, custom ROMs, etc. So far, the only solution to this has been to use another browser, but I enjoy the seamlessness of Chrome's remote tabs feature. I would like to know if there is an advanced settings section similar to "chrome://flags" for the desktop or a workaround that involves root.
If someone can answer this it'd be greatly appreciated.
fourinthoughts said:
As stated in thread title: Is there a way to disable the swipe between tabs gesture for Chrome on Android?
The gesture interferes with my ability to use certain websites that I now rely on that currently do not have an app for Android. I've tried searching for an answer to this and I've just been flooded sifting through irrelevant results for Mac, custom ROMs, etc. So far, the only solution to this has been to use another browser, but I enjoy the seamlessness of Chrome's remote tabs feature. I would like to know if there is an advanced settings section similar to "chrome://flags" for the desktop or a workaround that involves root.
If someone can answer this it'd be greatly appreciated.
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None that I know of. Use another browser for those websites.
That's the same problem I have with some Google apps, they are always looking nice, functions well but with limited options for customizations. The same problem with their Nexus devices too, Great devices, no external storage.
I believe some people at Google must really love some of the Apple policies.
Too bad!
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII
Thanks for the response.
The site that is bothering me the most is the mobile version for Nirvana, recently my favorite GTD (Get Things Done) tool. This has become quite an issue for me being able to productively manage tasks on Android since they currently don't have a working Android app. The irony (in response to your point) is that their mobile site works perfectly fine on Chrome for iOS. I only have problems with Chrome for Android and I've found it even affects Google sites such as Google Reader Play that also use swipe gestures. I figure this has to be related to the way gestures are handled on Chrome for Android since I do not have as much problems with the stock browser or with Dolphin browser.
Hopefully, this is fixed in a future update or the developers for Nirvana can update their Android app from an alpha build to a stable beta version sometime soon.
fourinthoughts said:
Thanks for the response.
The site that is bothering me the most is the mobile version for Nirvana, recently my favorite GTD (Get Things Done) tool. This has become quite an issue for me being able to productively manage tasks on Android since they currently don't have a working Android app. The irony (in response to your point) is that their mobile site works perfectly fine on Chrome for iOS. I only have problems with Chrome for Android and I've found it even affects Google sites such as Google Reader Play that also use swipe gestures. I figure this has to be related to the way gestures are handled on Chrome for Android since I do not have as much problems with the stock browser or with Dolphin browser.
Hopefully, this is fixed in a future update or the developers for Nirvana can update their Android app from an alpha build to a stable beta version sometime soon.
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I hope so too
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I can't stand when there are multiple threads for the same problems/topics...
I too would love to disable this "feature". It is useless to me, as I rarely switch between open tabs. I like being able to close the tab I was previously on before switching. For example, I'll go to a site (say, hardocp.com) and open stories I want to read in multiple background tabs. When I'm done opening links from the main page, I'll close that and start reading the other stories. When I finish one, I hit the tab button, swipe closed the tab I'm leaving, then select the next.
The swipe to switch tabs feature drives me up the wall. It has also seems to have become more sensitive on my newest phone (S4). I am usually just trying to move a page that is zoomed in left or right when the piece if crap tab swipe invokes. I find that I have to stay within the center third of the screen to keep it from happening. It's even worse since I don't use the tab swiping in the first place.
The absolute worst, however, are mobile pages that utilize swipe features. They are practically useless. I normally get to the point where I'm about to throw my phone through a wall before I give up and force the page to open in desktop mode, which of course, only works about 1/2 the time in chrome. I usually end up switching over to Dolphin (which uses too much memory for me to use it as my default browser).
Chrome/Google really need to add an option to disable this junk. I often wonder how many people are actually using it (I'm sure Google is tracking this through statistics). I love chrome but hate this "feature"....
Flapjack said:
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I can't stand when there are multiple threads for the same problems/topics...
I too would love to disable this "feature". It is useless to me, as I rarely switch between open tabs. I like being able to close the tab I was previously on before switching. For example, I'll go to a site (say, hardocp.com) and open stories I want to read in multiple background tabs. When I'm done opening links from the main page, I'll close that and start reading the other stories. When I finish one, I hit the tab button, swipe closed the tab I'm leaving, then select the next.
The swipe to switch tabs feature drives me up the wall. It has also seems to have become more sensitive on my newest phone (S4). I am usually just trying to move a page that is zoomed in left or right when the piece if crap tab swipe invokes. I find that I have to stay within the center third of the screen to keep it from happening. It's even worse since I don't use the tab swiping in the first place.
The absolute worst, however, are mobile pages that utilize swipe features. They are practically useless. I normally get to the point where I'm about to throw my phone through a wall before I give up and force the page to open in desktop mode, which of course, only works about 1/2 the time in chrome. I usually end up switching over to Dolphin (which uses too much memory for me to use it as my default browser).
Chrome/Google really need to add an option to disable this junk. I often wonder how many people are actually using it (I'm sure Google is tracking this through statistics). I love chrome but hate this "feature"....
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Holy crap it has definitely gotten worse! I also have an S4. You literally have to be in the dead center of the screen before starting your swipe gesture. I'm assuming they changed the code recently to increase the space on the sides that initiates a tab switch. Because you used to have to have your thumb right on the edge of the screen in order to swipe tabs, which I was somewhat okay with. Because it happened so infrequently that it took me a while to even figure out what was triggering it. Dumb feature.
That sounds like a good theory. It definitely was not an issue until recently.
Sent from Tapatalk 4 on my Verizon Galaxy S4!
Flapjack said:
That sounds like a good theory. It definitely was not an issue until recently.
Sent from Tapatalk 4 on my Verizon Galaxy S4!
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I agree 200%! I also have an S4 and this is unbearable!
From reading other forums, I've found that if you use more than one finger and chrome pans instead of switching tabs. OR, as mentioned here, start your panning at the center of the screen. I find both annoying as I've always panned in all of my androids with on finger and from the furthest point to get maximum page movement.
This is being tracked under chromium issue 117657
Issue 117657: User reports difficulty scrolling sideways (page pan); tab swipe gesture recognized instead
code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=117657
jreed69 said:
From reading other forums, I've found that if you use more than one finger and chrome pans instead of switching tabs. OR, as mentioned here, start your panning at the center of the screen. I find both annoying as I've always panned in all of my androids with on finger and from the furthest point to get maximum page movement.
This is being tracked under chromium issue 117657
Issue 117657: User reports difficulty scrolling sideways (page pan); tab swipe gesture recognized instead
code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=117657
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VERY happy to see it being tracked.
S4 user here. I have exactly the same issue. Was hoping to find some options under the about:about menu but to no avail. Can't wait for an update. Hopefully they will let you set a border for when the tab switching kicks on as opposed to scrolling sideways.
I just tried out Chrome Beta and it seems to fixed in the most recent version.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chrome.beta
jazic said:
I just tried out Chrome Beta and it seems to fixed in the most recent version.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chrome.beta
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I can confirm jazic's finding. It definitely seems to be fixed. So happy. It really is the little things in life...
Flapjack said:
I can confirm jazic's finding. It definitely seems to be fixed. So happy. It really is the little things in life...
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You're welcome.
I have an android tablet I'm trying to use for a presentation. I have about 10 or 15 slides I need to use, but they aren't in any particular order. I may need to see slide 2, then 4, then 9, then back to 4, etc. It will always be different. I have been able to find programs that can display full screen photos, pdfs, powerpoints, or whatever, but none of them seem to allow more than up or down (forward, reverse). I could do that, but it isn't very elegant or pleasant for the viewers.
I purchased tasker and have used it for a variety of things. I would like to be able to link a button on my keyboard remote to specific slides (jpg, pdf, whatever). So, when I hit the "A" it goes to slide 11. I hope that makes sense. It seems I could use a tasker profile to make button presses, but not to have button presses link to actions. I assume I am wrong, but I can not figure it out.
Does anyone have a good solution to this? Are there other programs available that would be easier to set up? I could use pdf, powerpoint, any type of image, or even something I haven't thought of. I've even wondered if I would be better off using an old phone to connect with bluetooth and make tasker "buttons" to perform specific tasks, but that seems more complex and more prone to breaking than a hardware remote.
I have a few photo viewers that work reasonably well, but many like to do strange things to the formatting or still show the menu bar or have stuff pop up over the images.
I previously did this with a windows machine and made eventghost switch backgrounds based on remote buttons. However, I'm leary of doing that as android seems to be rather poor at correctly formatting a background image without zooming/cropping oddly.
Any help would be great. Thanks for even reading down this far.