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Hi guys,
Have had my Hero just over a month now and love the thing to bits...
The one thing (battery life aside) that pees me off though is that the phone can be slow at times...
It seems to stem from apps either opening themselves and running in the background, or not closing properly when I select to close them.
I seem to spend half my time using the phone in TaskKiller getting rid of everything that shouldn't be running before I can do anything.
Has anyone got any smart ideas on how I can improve the problems above?
I've also noticed when I switch the phone off and back on a) it improves things slightly, but b) it also runs lots of things that I don't need open so is there a way to stop things running on start up?
Thanks for the help guys.
To show you what I mean, I just restarted the phone and killed everything except:
WaveSecure Beta
com.google.android.apps.mapssomething that goes off the screen) - can't kill this
HTC Sense
Touch Input
com.htc.provider
Go back to it 10 minutes later and I also have the following open:
Settings
vizBattery
Wi-Fi Status
Google Mail
Thats without me touching it at all.... if I had also used the Twitter app, Facebook, messaging etc then they would all still be open, the browser and music player would probably be there too.
It's normal fo it to start some apps on its own, for example peep (htc's twitter program) the music player (only if you have a widget on one of the homescreens)
same goes for calander etc etc google mail is push so it has to be opened to recieve messaged realtime.
Things like batterystatus thingy's often drain your battery and sometimes slow down your device I suggest removing that.
Also I don't know about wifi status but can imagine that draining battery to since
I don't think that will be running without your wifi being on. When continuosly searching for networks your device also will slow down, and drain the battery
My english isn't perfect so I hope you understand what I'm saying.
edit: do you use the official t-mobile rom or a custom? Don't know if htc released the last update for t-mob devices. That update really improved almost everything
so if you don't have that it's ''normal'' for the device to lag.
Some apps register themselves to start automatically. Obviously Gmail needs to run if you're syncing a Gmail account.
There's at least one app (paid) that can override this - I believe it is called Startup Auditor.
However, for the most part, it doesn't really matter since many of the apps that appear to be "running" will not be consuming any CPU time (and by extension battery life) unless they are designed to run in the background.
In addition, as Stafflover has already said, I'd also suggest you try removing vizBattery - whilst I've no specific experience with this app, I've heard that many battery status widgets drain the battery significantly.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
There's at least one app (paid) that can override this - I believe it is called Startup Auditor.
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AutoStarts does the same job, also paid. using it for weeks, works great.
programs starting up
gk141054 said:
Hi guys,
Have had my Hero just over a month now and love the thing to bits...
The one thing (battery life aside) that pees me off though is that the phone can be slow at times...
It seems to stem from apps either opening themselves and running in the background, or not closing properly when I select to close them.
I seem to spend half my time using the phone in TaskKiller getting rid of everything that shouldn't be running before I can do anything.
Has anyone got any smart ideas on how I can improve the problems above?
I've also noticed when I switch the phone off and back on a) it improves things slightly, but b) it also runs lots of things that I don't need open so is there a way to stop things running on start up?
Thanks for the help guys.
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Hey Pal! I had the same problem then I got into a bit of app development and understood. Some service need to be "broadcasting" and some other to be "listening". Best you can do is sometimes tell them how often to "wake up and check". But if you think about it, a program MUST be checking on a few things, at least sometimes, to give you the "android experience". Also, no matter how much you care about that number you see in the "free ram" widget (assunming you use taskiller with the widget), it is not very important until it REALLY does slow your phone down. Some apps are worse than others at clogging up or draining your battery: try them, weigh how useful they really are for you and then decide what to keep (running) Ciao!
I'm running stock 2.1 with JIT v2 enabled and SetCPU, but i've noticed an increase in Lag lately.
Is there a minimum of free space recommended for Android to run better? I've checked a few similar threads across xda and others but i couldn't find much useful information. My main memory currently has 100 MB and the sdcard 1,14 GB of free space.
Or maybe it's a cache issue? Never cleaned cache files before, can they actually cause lag? Hopefully is not the first signs of an incoming hardware fault.
Try using CacheMate and see...
a.monteiro said:
I'm running stock 2.1 with JIT v2 enabled and SetCPU, but i've noticed an increase in Lag lately.
Is there a minimum of free space recommended for Android to run better? I've checked a few similar threads across xda and others but i couldn't find much useful information. My main memory currently has 100 MB and the sdcard 1,14 GB of free space.
Or maybe it's a cache issue? Never cleaned cache files before, can they actually cause lag? Hopefully is not the first signs of an incoming hardware fault.
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Laggy after JIT enabled?
Normaly,the phone will just lag for the first 30s-1 min after the booting.
After that,the phone would work like a charm.
Also,remember to maintain enough ram for you phone,kill unneccessery apps.
Also,check you SetCPU settings,I used the performance and set to highest frequency(not to worried the battery,my phone usually drops 2-3% for one light)
If problem continues,just reflash and problem should be solved.
cheers,
L
I have no idea what happened, phone was very slow for the last couple of days, but out of nowhere it simply got back to it's normal behaviour.
Since JIT my x10 has been working very smoothly, hence my surprise when things started stuttering like crazy, the only thing that made it lag like that was a beta for Fennec/Firefox i've tested, but that app was already uninstalled when the problem started.
My noob knowledge of the Android OS led to a conclusion that some app in the background was misbehaving and the system itself shut it down eventually. Does it make sense? Watchdog's last alert accused Pulse News, but nothing looked out of the ordinary.
It started again yesterday, this time i've got random boots as well. Uninstalled a bunch of apps and the difference in performance was instantly noticeable. I've removed Beautiful Widgets and Lookout, but the former is more likely to be the naughty app.
too bad i've payed for that crap.
Looks great so far. The Home launcher is much more responsive so I can do away with ADW EX for now.
Kind of wish there were more small apps, but browser, calculator and IR remote are great choices for those and they work terrifically.
What do you guys think so far?
hogaburger said:
Looks great so far. The Home launcher is much more responsive so I can do away with ADW EX for now.
Kind of wish there were more small apps, but browser, calculator and IR remote are great choices for those and they work terrifically.
What do you guys think so far?
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When is 4.0.4 coming!!! :-D, so far so good on my end, seems more responsive. WIFI seems to stay on and work a lot better.
Upgraded to ics and my play store keeps crashing. Tried clearing cache and data, then it runs for about 5 min and crashes again...anyone else having similar issues?
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jbatch said:
Upgraded to ics and my play store keeps crashing. Tried clearing cache and data, then it runs for about 5 min and crashes again...anyone else having similar issues?
Sent from my Sony Tablet S using Tapatalk 2
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Just tested Play Store, no issue for me.
jbatch said:
Upgraded to ics and my play store keeps crashing. Tried clearing cache and data, then it runs for about 5 min and crashes again...anyone else having similar issues?
Sent from my Sony Tablet S using Tapatalk 2
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Uninstall from settings and go in as market... That fixed it for me...
The tablet was initially very laggy after the update but a reboot seemed to fix things, with the exception of the notification menu. It stutters very noticeably and is extremely annoying. Many apps also don't rotate properly anymore.
Still better than Honeycomb despiute those drawbacks.
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DAMN YOU SONY!!!
Things i hate:
- this annoying wifi keepalive issue is still there!!! there is no way to keep wifi active during standby -.- damned why don't they let us users the choice... there IS an option to set the standby behavior but its still completely useless....
- sometimes there are widget issues (doesn't matter if 3rd party or preinstalled) that widgets change into editor mode when just pressing a button like update... changing screen ang going back will fix this temporarily... had this 2 times now...
- auto brigtness issue still not resolved... in low light the screen is MUCH too dark and when changing from full brightess to automatic it keeps full for a while and then goes down to min
- homescreen lag is still too much in portrait
- forced portrait is still not changable (damn i'm righthanded and want to hold it on the ROUND side when portrait is forced!!!!)
- the new ICS launcher... Sonys previous own launcher had a better overview with the sorting possibilities but ok we can have folders now...
- still no thumb keyboard -.-
things i like:
- media from SD card is now directly available and nut just for transfer... finally i have enough memory also without root and mounting stuff ^^
- the new mini-apps are nice but there is still much potential for more apps
- the new version of "Favorites" App is very nice animated and faster
- ICS possibility to deactivate system apps that are not removable... finally i get this google music player away
- a few other ICS related things...
ALL IN ALL this update is a big disappointement... they updated to ICS, integrated one or thwo new features and that's it??? all the big issues are still there since more than six months!!!!!
I have personally had a fantastic experience with the ICS update. Everything seems faster across the board. Menus more responsive, faster browser, better keyboard response/feedback. I also like the ICS look and feel and the mini apps. Really happy with the update so far.
I used to be able to DL directly to my SD Card, and using ES File Manager to move files around. Now it refuses to do so. Anyone else having this issue? If not, what file manager are you using?
My tablet seems to have gone really slow after the ICS update.
I tried a factory restore to ensure that I didnt have too many things installed and decided to start afresh. Didnt help. The tablet is still very slow. While the touch is responsive and I like the features of ICS like slide to dismiss, reading files directly from SD card etc, I definitely donot like the amount of lag I am noticing.
All my apps seem to be really really slow.
My Honeycomb seemed to be far more faster irrespective of all the issues that it had.
Any suggestions anyone?? I am on non rooted US version 16Gb Wifi.
intellix said:
My tablet seems to have gone really slow after the ICS update.
I tried a factory restore to ensure that I didnt have too many things installed and decided to start afresh. Didnt help. The tablet is still very slow. While the touch is responsive and I like the features of ICS like slide to dismiss, reading files directly from SD card etc, I definitely donot like the amount of lag I am noticing.
All my apps seem to be really really slow.
My Honeycomb seemed to be far more faster irrespective of all the issues that it had.
Any suggestions anyone?? I am on non rooted US version 16Gb Wifi.
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Have you tried going into Settings > Developer Options and tick "Force GPU rendering"?
I'm thinking of buying the sony tablet s. I've read on various reviews that this tablet's battery life is not that impressive (Honeycomb0, is that true? And btw how is the battery life after the ics update? Is there any improvement?
someone can connect tablet with PC on MTP usb
i tried many times but i couldn't
ics update
i havent played around much since the update but the little time i did spend with my tab i found it more responsive and smoother.... i am liking the ics update... dont know why others having issues but i think we should give it a couple of days so that all issues are ironed out....
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someone can connect tablet with PC on MTP usb
i tried many times but i couldn't
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On the first time, it took a while to show up as windows tried to reinstall the drivers for the tablet. Maybe you should keep it connected on USB and wait for a while and see if it shows up?
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On the first time, it took a while to show up as windows tried to reinstall the drivers for the tablet. Maybe you should keep it connected on USB and wait for a while and see if it shows up?
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i'm steel keeping connection but nothing happened
should i try to reinstall drivers forcibly?
I don't understand the problems with wifi-keep-alive.There a apps in the playstore to force this. It worked well for me in Honeycomb.
Same with a thumb-keyboard.
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i'm steel keeping connection but nothing happened
should i try to reinstall drivers forcibly?
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On the first time, it took a while to show up as windows tried to reinstall the drivers for the tablet. Maybe you should keep it connected on USB and wait for a while and see if it shows up?
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sorry, i found it
i just reboot the tablet s and connect again
then it works
macmeier said:
I don't understand the problems with wifi-keep-alive.There a apps in the playstore to force this. It worked well for me in Honeycomb.
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The problem with that app from the market is that it keeps the device awake when you turn off the screen, and it eats through the battery.
On the Android phones I've used (Legend, Desire, Arc S), the WiFi remained connected, but the phone also went to sleep, battery drain was minimal.
This is the behaviour we were expecting to see in the ICS update, but unfortunately it hasn't been fixed...
Hey, i have a 3g tablet, because that i have to wait for upgrading.
But i have an important question for hifi guys: What is with the IR-Remote app...
Are there any changes to the App on Honeycomb?
I bought the tablet for controlling my homecinema an know i want to know if we get makros in the IR-Remote app?
pls check it and give a response to me
Hey guys. I believe that the os21 update has a bad memory leak/background processing management(besides a kernal issue). When playing heavy 3d games like Nova 3 or Sonic, the framerates are really slow or stutter a lot until the games force-close. Well, for the past 2 days, I have not had this issue, both Nova 3 and Sonic play with no stuttering at all, and I have not experienced any more game crashes. My browser also seems much smoother. Please try the two fix options listed below, while noting that the 2nd option seems to work best with mass Efeect, and less "strict" on runnig processes than the first option:
Fix #1- What I did was push the soft reset button on the Prime (using a small paperclip), then waited for the Prime to reboot. Once it rebooted, DO NOT let the Prime load up anything, just immediately go into settings, developer options, select the kill all activities option, then for background processes, select "at most 1 process only" Delete all of your running task managers/task widgets an that's it. Now all of my games run, no crashes, and the framerates for Nova 3 and Sonic is MUCH better.
Fix# 2 - For those still having issues with Mass Effect, this alternate setting will definitely fix the problem. After soft rebooting, go into development settings, and then for background processes, select "at most 1 process only" and DO NOT select kill all processes after leaving them. This setting has been confirmed to fix the Mass Effect issue, as well as all other games while still keeping the Prime running a lot smoother.
Please try using the exact instructions that I have posted, and let me know if this works for you guys. If so, then it proves that the os21 has a memory management issue which is causing all the current issues we are having.
Also, I would like to share this post from Jaycustom, whom has also been using this method for a few days now and enjoying it more than myself lol. He ran a CPU test to test the differences before and after my fix. See his results below:
Default settings said I had about 19 user/ 29 system processes running.
Dev settings gave me 14 user/ 11 system processes running.
Default settings for system memory 600+mb used/300+ free
Dev settings for system memory 300+ used/600+ free
The memory usage was pretty much exactly reversed! So I assume this is where most, but not all, of the performance boost comes from. CPU usage was also lower, not by much though.
See the video that I made (link below)showing me using the default browser, which is now really fast and stable using this method. I also ran Mass Effect 3 and Nova 3 to show that I have no issues playing these games anymore. I used a Samsung Galaxy tab to record, so please re-frame from laughing at the quality of the vid lol! If you guys would like me to try more games/apps, please let me know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iperCmEH4t4&feature=youtu.be
Thanks guys
Nova 3 is still freezing and crashing, frame rate is still same.... I think tehere is no solution untill FailLoft will update the app for tegra 3.
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Nova 3 is still freezing and crashing, frame rate is still same.... I think tehere is no solution untill FailLoft will update the app for tegra 3.
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Sorry to hear that it didnt work for you, but it seems to have resolved the issue for me entirely. I am not exeriencing any more gam crashes or white flashing screens. Are you sure that you followed the stes listed? Waiting for others to rely, but either my Prime just decided to play all my games correctly, or this is "fix" is working for me.
This is not an acceptable fix, it is only a workaround.
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This is not an acceptable fix, it is only a workaround.
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Yes I agree 100%, but it works. At least we can play some of our games/browse without issue until the fix comes out. Did you try it, and did it work for you?
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Yes I agree 100%, but it works. At least we can play some of our games/browse without issue until the fix comes out. Did you try it, and did it work for you?
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I'll have to try this out tonight. To clarify, when you say "do not let it load up anything", do you just mean go into the settings as soon as possible and kill things? It must start running services as soon as it boots, no? I guess this just minimizes the "damage"?
Hi, I've just tried this and it doesn't seem to have had much of an effect I'm afraid.
In the last 10 mins I've still had two spontaneous browser shutdowns, plus crappy streaming video playback from sites such as bbc iplayer.
The pages seem to load a little faster and scrolling may be a touch smoother but thats about it the best I can say.
This solution works well for me. I have been doing this for some time, except I have limited the processes to three. Limiting it to one seems to improve it even better. Widgets seem also to be a drain on the resources and limiting those works well for me. Much thanks for the post.
You might also try this solution from here post #118 :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681469&page=12
It seems to have worked for me, I've only had one reboot since. It's at least worth a try. Good luck.
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I'll have to try this out tonight. To clarify, when you say "do not let it load up anything", do you just mean go into the settings as soon as possible and kill things? It must start running services as soon as it boots, no? I guess this just minimizes the "damage"?
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yes exactly.. this is the way it worked for me. Just immediately go into setting, and select the options that i listed. This will only allow the essential programs to run. Please let me know if this works for you. Also, switch the prime to performance for graphic heavy games. Still testing this, but so far I have not have any crashes since applying.
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This solution works well for me. I have been doing this for some time, except I have limited the processes to three. Limiting it to one seems to improve it even better. Widgets seem also to be a drain on the resources and limiting those works well for me. Much thanks for the post.
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Thanks for confirm this. Yes, my Prime is no longer lagging when browsing or crashing during gameplay..the difference is honestly night and day. Just confirms for me that .21 is not handling the background processes, or closing them correctly.
jemberton said:
Hi, I've just tried this and it doesn't seem to have had much of an effect I'm afraid.
In the last 10 mins I've still had two spontaneous browser shutdowns, plus crappy streaming video playback from sites such as bbc iplayer.
The pages seem to load a little faster and scrolling may be a touch smoother but thats about it the best I can say.
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Hey, do you happen to have the sticky player app installed by any chance?
No I've never used sticky player app.
I've been toying with the idea of factory resetting and trying this. I'll see how it goes tonight
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No I've never used sticky player app.
I've been toying with the idea of factory resetting and trying this. I'll see how it goes tonight
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you shouldn't have to factory reset, that would suck
Can you try the soft reset option again? Once it's done, update the setting as listed and try the Prime on performance mode. If that doesn't help, then you may have a bad app which is hogging on your resources and causing the slowdown/crashes.
This procedure also seems to improve on the strength of the Wi-Fi signal. At least on mine it does.
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This procedure also seems to improve on the strength of the Wi-Fi signal. At least on mine it does.
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Maybe it's just because the Prime is loading pages a lot faster because there aren't so many things running in the background now. it would be cool though if this also fixed wifi, maybe someone should do a speed test for before and after the fix?
I just tried the default browser again. It does not lag/stutter when scrolling through the pages anywhere near like it used to. it's not as smooth as opera mini, but it's a LOT better than before. Still no game crashes at all since doing this. I can post vids for anyone who would like to see proof after work.
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you shouldn't have to factory reset, that would suck
Can you try the soft reset option again? Once it's done, update the setting as listed and try the Prime on performance mode. If that doesn't help, then you may have a bad app which is hogging on your resources and causing the slowdown/crashes.
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I was gonna do one anyway, just to start from scratch with a blank slate and get it set up how I want it!
After resetting, and before any apps are downloaded the browser is working much much better once the settings you recommend are applied. Loading and scrolling is faster and there have been no force closes or video hangups.
Cheers, I look forward to this .28 update but thats helped me out a lot in the meantime!
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I was gonna do one anyway, just to start from scratch with a blank slate and get it set up how I want it!
After resetting, and before any apps are downloaded the browser is working much much better once the settings you recommend are applied. Loading and scrolling is faster and there have been no force closes or video hangups.
Cheers, I look forward to this .28 update but thats helped me out a lot in the meantime!
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Great to hear! yes, my Prime seems much quicker with touch inputs, scrolling, gaming and web browsing. Must of been a bad memory issue along with the kernel for .21.
just did this ans seems to work very well. i was getting around 12-15mbs and now im getting 32mbs in the garage with only 1 bar. im very happy with that. thanks for sharing.
hello,
i have searched on web about this subject but no accurate solution found. my problem is that when i hit contacts, it opens after 3-4 secs. then it opens instantly. after browsing web or facebook or something different, then it waits 3-4 secs again to enter contacts. it happens at all roms i have tried (turkbey, agabey, omega, anonorom, md, crdroid, cyanogenmod, viking). stock rom has the same lag. the situation continues when i hit message or dailer. it is not related with the animation speed i guess. older samsung mobiles have faster response (ace, wonder or sii). thisi is annoying.
some lags occur while browsing facebook (not too much but sensing).
anyone know how to get rid of this problem?
best regards
Dialer lag on Cyanogenmod...............No. Stock Contacts app being slow has been pointed out numerous times. It is being killed from ram to make room for other apps. Either use Exdialer which can be kept in memory, Purchase JKAY Deluxe settings, or accept the slowness.
carlsberk said:
hello,
i have searched on web about this subject but no accurate solution found. my problem is that when i hit contacts, it opens after 3-4 secs. then it opens instantly. after browsing web or facebook or something different, then it waits 3-4 secs again to enter contacts. it happens at all roms i have tried (turkbey, agabey, omega, anonorom, md, crdroid, cyanogenmod, viking). stock rom has the same lag. the situation continues when i hit message or dailer. it is not related with the animation speed i guess. older samsung mobiles have faster response (ace, wonder or sii). thisi is annoying.
some lags occur while browsing facebook (not too much but sensing).
anyone know how to get rid of this problem?
best regards
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The problem is because the Contact and Phone aps are getting killed off from the memory after sometime.
1) use a third party app like exDilaler.
2) Install jKay's framework and white list Contacts and Dialer. This will lock the app in memory.
Just download exdialer from play store.
I think U have installed some task manager/killer which kills the running apps after some time.
And due to which there is a delay in contacts opening.
Add this app not to kill in settings !
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I think U have installed some task manager/killer which kills the running apps after some time.
And due to which there is a delay in contacts opening.
Add this app not to kill in settings !
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thanks for answers,
first of all; i do not use any app killer programs. i can understand that the phone is killing app to open room on ram for other apps. what about galaxy s2? i tried opening contacts on this device many times and it is quite fast in every time. if i saw same problem on lower models i would accept that lag for contacts. but i do not understand how s2 could kept it in ram and why s3 could not. and it is laggy when browsing contacts. not too much but you can see it.
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thanks for answers,
first of all; i do not use any app killer programs. i can understand that the phone is killing app to open room on ram for other apps. what about galaxy s2? i tried opening contacts on this device many times and it is quite fast in every time. if i saw same problem on lower models i would accept that lag for contacts. but i do not understand how s2 could kept it in ram and why s3 could not. and it is laggy when browsing contacts. not too much but you can see it.
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Same problem here, contacts opening to slow for normal use, >5 sec. running latest omega rom.
I tried different roms, also to restore contacts from kies but its the same. >5 sec.
carlsberk said:
hello,
i have searched on web about this subject but no accurate solution found. my problem is that when i hit contacts, it opens after 3-4 secs. then it opens instantly. after browsing web or facebook or something different, then it waits 3-4 secs again to enter contacts. it happens at all roms i have tried (turkbey, agabey, omega, anonorom, md, crdroid, cyanogenmod, viking). stock rom has the same lag. the situation continues when i hit message or dailer. it is not related with the animation speed i guess. older samsung mobiles have faster response (ace, wonder or sii). thisi is annoying.
some lags occur while browsing facebook (not too much but sensing).
anyone know how to get rid of this problem?
best regards
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you are not alone and a search would have helped