[Q] Root after update - XPERIA X10 Android Development

Not sure if this is asked or clarified before yet, but
After updating to 2.1, will we need to re-root our phones?
If so, should the current method work painlessly?
Thanks

Yes we will and it all depends on if SE have patched the ota files which i'm sure they would've.

Afaik you will also have to reinstall all your apps and stuff.
As your phone will be totally reset after the 2.1 update, so make sure you backup (Just to be sure)

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[Q] Regarding x10 Root update from rooted 024 or lower to 026+root [Solution include]

My current X10i is rooted with R2BA023 and I am wondering if it is possible to update to R2VA026 without wiping all the apps and contacts. If I have to, what are the steps to update to 026. Do I have to use the original root methods all over again? Thanks, I'm still very new to android.
[So, after the experiments and discussion we have concluded the best way to update rooted firmware is to use SEUS with the update option "This option allows you to update your phone with all apps and user information untouched" Then download the one click root APK to root your device, make sure you also downloaded the market fix to ensure full services from the market.]
Link to One click root apk post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740240
In SEUS you can update without losing your contacts or messages, I have done this at least once.
But I dont remember if the apps were left untouched, I have done to many reflashes since then.
Use SEUS to go to 026 and the the One Click Root to, well, root...
But please, make a backup first, Titanium seems to be useful for this.
mattiL said:
In SEUS you can update without losing your contacts or messages, I have done this at least once.
But I dont remember if the apps were left untouched, I have done to many reflashes since then.
Use SEUS to go to 026 and the the One Click Root to, well, root...
But please, make a backup first, Titanium seems to be useful for this.
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thanks! I'm trying the SEUS update right now.
for those who are interested in doing the same thing. I found out you can make seus update only the firmware, keeping all the apps and personal information untouched. I updated from my rooted 023 to official 026 then used the 1click root .apk. Everything worked smooth like silk. In case if anyone is interested in doing the same thing my result was a perfect success. (btw, don't forget to use the market fix)
Just to be sure, I have rooted X10i R2BA023 so I can update it with normal SEUS update procedure without problems? And after update I just run 1click Root and restore with Titanium backup?
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afterdiver said:
Just to be sure, I have rooted X10i R2BA023 so I can update it with normal SEUS update procedure without problems? And after update I just run 1click Root and restore with Titanium backup?
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The answer would be yes.
Rooting is no problem, but as will89 said, the applications will be kept if you update your phone with SEUS and keeps the user data (there are 2 choices in SEUS).
Please BACKUP ! (at least your vital data, and before..)
mattiL said:
The answer would be yes.
Rooting is no problem, but as will89 said, the applications will be kept if you update your phone with SEUS and keeps the user data (there are 2 choices in SEUS).
Please BACKUP ! (at least your vital data, and before..)
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Yes, my phone was originally a rooted 023 and I simply updated the firmware through SEUS, the update was fast and smooth. Once it was done, the firmware became the official 026 which then I used the 1 click root apk to complete rooting. Everything worked painlessly and all my contacts and apps remained untouched, though I would suggest you to still make a backup with titanium just in case like what MattiL said

[Q] 2.4.3 Update

I have a D2G. I rooted it.
But it now wants to do a 2.4.3 update. of course the update fails when it reboots
So my question is, could i apply the update using the bootstrap. has anyone tried doing this, would it brick my phone if i tried.
jbroderick said:
I have a D2G. I rooted it.
But it now wants to do a 2.4.3 update. of course the update fails when it reboots
So my question is, could i apply the update using the bootstrap. has anyone tried doing this, would it brick my phone if i tried.
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You probably could if you remember to wipe data and cache, and you should probably get the Team Black Hat app and download the SBF/driver/RSD Lite files just in case.
Edit: Oh, the update file. If it's failing to install, you should probably just try the full install. I'm not sure why it wouldn't go through unless you're on stock, in which case, you HAVE to use full install.
I think he is talking about the official Verizon update. Not FRM...
When you rooted did you stop or remove any of the Blur apps? That will cause the update to fail. All of the Blurr must be there for the update to work.
If you used Z4Root to root your device, try to unroot the device with zroot and then try the update again.
You may have to re-install Zroot after it is completed to re-root the phone. But I did the update before I rooted almost the day I got the phone so I had not really done enough to notice if it wipes the device and data. My guess would be no!
Since I did this from the stock rom I did not bother to look but if the file is a zip file then chances are likely you can run it from the clockwork recovery.
But best bet is to unroot and then try it again before you go that route.
I would however get RSDLite and the stock SBF to have handy in case you run into problems.
You cannot apply the OTA update (I assume you are talking about 2.4.330 Verizon official OTA update) from the custom recovery. It must be instaled via stock recovery. But due to the way update is made (patch based) it will fail if there are alternations (missing files) in any of the system areas. You must restore all changes you made in /system/app (assuming you froze/delete some stock apps), if you are rooted it is ok, update will not bother (extra files in system do not break the checksum - update only checks original files. But if there is even a single file missing (deleted/renamed) in system area, update will fail to install. If you can't figure it out (what is missing) and update keeps failing, simply flash full SBF to return to stock, apply the OTA update then reroot and freeze/remove all apps that you don't want in system area.

[Q] Restoring Froyo Apps

I'm trying to restore my Froyo app backups, i.e. Email 2.2.2, News 2.2.2, etc with Titanium Backup but have encountered a problem. They won't restore! The only reason I want to restore them is I'm under the impression when I update to Gingerbread (once it's avaiable on Bell) it won't let me update since I don't have some core apps installed. Please help!
The icon in the right of those apps, is an explanation mark in a triangle?
No it's actually a red happy face.
It's just Email 2.2.2, Weather 2.2.2 and News 2.2.2 that I backed up and un-installed. Now when I try and restore just those 3 the restore pop up screen goes on forever. Do I even need to reinstall these in order to update to Gingerbread successfully? Thanks.
Sorry for bumping, but I'm a little worried I won't be able to update to Gingerbread when the time comes...
Hmmm...
The think you can do is, ask for another Bell user here, upload the 3 apks you want, and
using Root Explorer or any other exlporer with root access,
or adb using your computer
move these apps to system/app
You unistalled them because they were bloatware, right?
You shouldn't unistall them. You should freeze them, and now restore them back.
But, what i suggest is:
Unlock your Bootloader,
install the Unlocked CWM
and download and install(using cwm zips) an International Version of 2.3.4 from now.
But READ very carefully the android dev section, so you wont get hard-brick!
If i helped, hit thanks!
I suggest back up your data and what not and flash a fresh stock build (either fruit cake or sbf)
Yeah I thought they were bloatware so I uninstalled them. I'll freeze next time. Can I just "Factory Data reset" after backing up all my essential apps? I really don't understand the process of flashing and updating to Gingerbread and whatnot and I'm a little scared to brick my phone too.
lexx210 said:
Yeah I thought they were bloatware so I uninstalled them. I'll freeze next time. Can I just "Factory Data reset" after backing up all my essential apps? I really don't understand the process of flashing and updating to Gingerbread and whatnot and I'm a little scared to brick my phone too.
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The only thing you have to afraid, is some SBF's, when you unlock you bootloader..(If the dont remove some code of Bootloader, in SBF's, and then you downgrade from 2.3 to 2.2, you get hard-brick!)
So, i suggest you, instead of waiting the 3 apk's,
wait for a more stable and international support for a rom(like, i m waiting Alien Rom),
and then flash it using CWM..
If you read here, you can easily unlock your Bootloader, but this can void your guarantee.
Since you are unlocked, then never use RDS lite, to flash SBF's, and flash roms in CWM which is easy and safe!
I' m not pushing you. Just recommending!
My guarantee is already voided, since i m since unlocked, and the half-earth away from USA
So unlocking my phone is the only risky part? And after I unlock my phone I should never update with the official releases again? Also, unlocking my phone only gives me the ability to flash roms, kernels etc in the future when a more stable Bell 2.34 rom comes out, it doesn't change anything with my phone as is right now except I void my warranty? Basically unlocking doesn't give me Gingerbread or anything for that matter, it only allows me to install it afterwards? You can probably tell I'm very new to all this so thank you for being so patient and helpful.

[Q] Original Neo - Where to Start?

So I have a completely original Neo, still on the on the original Gingerbread (2.3.3) it had and I don't quite know how to proceed.
The only thing I do know is that if at all possible I don't want to unlock the bootloader.
Ideally I want to back everything up before I do anything but from my understanding Titanium Backup needs root to back everything up so that creates a bit of a catch 22. Similarly installing CWM so that I can access recovery is risky and could break everything so I'd want a backup first but for that I need either root or recovery so another catch 22. So what would be the safest option?
Also I want to update to ICS, I figure it's about time I get my phone current, but I don't know in what order I should do that in either...
Should I gingerbreak my Gingerbread and then update to ICS?
Should I just update to ICS and then root?
Should I upgrade using generic firmware to a version supporting the zergRush root, then root and then continue updating to current ICS?
I'm fairly confident I can get everything right first time on any method (and I know what all the methods are/am to not to lazy to research the methods myself) but I just can't figure out the safest course of action here...other than staying on Gingerbread for the duration of my phone contract.
Any help you can give me is appreciated.
Start by reading the stickies in the development section, do some reading and you'll know
look at the stickies in neo v section too
Ok so you're saying I should follow the "noob's guide" exactly and try a zergRush Root first? (Skip unlocking the bootloader since it'm not interested in cutoms roms with custom kernels) and then install CWM and make a nandroid backup?
Ok....but that still doesn't tell me whether I should update first or root first?
Also I can't seem to tell from it's thread whether the zergRush root works on the latest ICS (I don't see mention of .431 in the thread with .62 apparently being the last version that worked so that would be a no then?)?
Also my case is different because I could actually even still root with Gingerbreak if that was best/safest unlike most people trying to root (I never downgraded either so I wouldn't be exposed to the 0% issue).
ZergRush method doesn't work on fw's after .42.
There is another method, which you can find in sticky thread in general section.
First update, then root, as root is gone after flas/update.
p.s. whatever you do, just don't flash android 2.3.2 on your phone after you flash 2.3.4, but there is no really point in going to that old fw, same as there is no point in still being on 2.3.3.
Root is only gone if I don't update OTA
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Root is only gone if I don't update OTA
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Really? Thanks for telling me that..
I know that, I also know that you can't update from 2.3.3 to 4.0.4(which you said it's your initial goal, in your first post) via OTA. Or you can?
As far as I know I can but I admit I haven't checked yet. I don't see why once it's available for my region through the PC Suite it shouldn't also be available OTA.
Try and let us know.
It's not same if you're updating from x.x.x to x.x.y and from x.x.x to y.y.y, in first case OTA is possible, in second case I kinda doubt
I also didn't try, but if I remember correctly that's how it is.
Yeah but surely it should then just be 3 steps? So from x.x.x to x.x.y to y.y.y...that would would make sense to me anyways
Still reading up on a bit of other stuff then I'll check
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1973017
hope it helps..

[Q] Firmware question

Hey guys, I've currently got some wifi issues that I believe are firmware related, I've currently got 17.1.1.A.0.402 but would like to revert back to 17.1.A.2.36 ideally without having to factory reset my phone, I'm also not sure it would go back to 17.1.A.2.36 even if I reset it, I didn't note what firmware it had before I upgraded the firmware so it might take it back to an even earlier version ideally I just want to step back one firmware update but I'm not sure if this is possible? I noticed there's an option on PC companion to reinstall all the updates again although I don't know if you can choose which updates to install or whether it'd just install all the updates so far including 17.1.1.A.0.402 which would be no good. It also said I would lose all my phone data which is not ideal. I was considering rooting my phone and getting an older firmware installed then but tbh I don't really have a lot of knowledge on the subject and I'm not sure if that's even possible. If anyone could help help me out that would be great, even if it's to conform that factory resetting is the only option as ideally I don't want to lose all my data
If you're simply looking to root the device at the .402 firmware, then have a look at this thread. I personally did the same steps on my international D6503, and now have root access, my own TA backup file, PhilZ + TWRP recovery modes, and a locked bootloader. Originally my intent was to downgrade firmwares and us a root exploit that way, however, the 'EasyRoot' method has saved a lot of trouble and my firmware version has not needed to change at all.
That said, if you're still adamant about rolling back firmwares, I'd suggest that you have a look here. Norti has posted a fairly comprehensive set of instructions, as well as a list of firmwares for different versions of the Z2. Although I haven't rolled it back, I have heard that using flashtool to jump to different official firmware versions will not wipe data if you choose to not select WIPE USERDATA, since they're performed in a way that is similar to OTA updates (might need confirmation on this one). Some of the posters in that thread have claimed that as long as your device matches the firmware, loading up a different region's firmware shouldn't have any detrimental affects (i.e. an international phone using Taiwanese/German versions), but that's another piece of information I can't confirm since I haven't tried it.
TL;DR you don't have to change firmware to root, but you can if you really want to. Neither method should touch your SD card, and flashtool should be able to choose what should or should not be wiped.
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First of all thanks for the informative response! I tried resetting my phone anyway and it already had 402 installed at stock so unfortunately I can't do it that way, I think I'll try rooting my phone now as I've wanted to do it for a while and I might as well now seeing as I basically have a fresh phone with nothing installed on it. I think I'll follow this guide since I already have an unlocked bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53220418&postcount=2 However I was wondering when I can flash the older firmware, would it be during of after I've rooted my phone?

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