So I have seen videos on YouTube that have the hd2 running Ubuntu. Is there a way to run windows 7 (not windows mobile 7) or XP and use a USB hub to plug in a keyboard and mouse? This would be insanely awesome! Now YouTube also has two videos running windows 7 but I have a feeling they are either themes or remote desktop.
Win7...WTF...
OK, i don't know the videos, but i'm really thinking this is a fake.
I've heard rumours about people get win95 running (VM/emulator?) and this
is hard to belive.
But Windows 7 is not beliveable.
I shocked my friend with XP on my HD2, but truely it was only
the "Remote-Desktop".
And i think you're right, this is what's shown in this videos.
PS: with some tunings you can play sound's
and videos through the RDP-con. (via Wlan) and this looks still
awesome.
You're better off getting Ubuntu to run on the HD2, which is already possible. Windows 7's touch-friendly features are also pretty demanding. It would be a bit overwhelming, even for something with the HD2's specs.
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OK, i don't know the videos, but i'm really thinking this is a fake.
I've heard rumours about people get win95 running (VM/emulator?) and this
is hard to belive.
But Windows 7 is not beliveable.
I shocked my friend with XP on my HD2, but truely it was only
the "Remote-Desktop".
And i think you're right, this is what's shown in this videos.
PS: with some tunings you can play sound's
and videos through the RDP-con. (via Wlan) and this looks still
awesome.
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win95 working , tested myself , but w7 .... i don't think so
I had Win95 on mine too......I just don't think the HD2 can handle the standalone PC version on Win7. Too make fake videos on youtube....probably this is one of them
windows 7 32 bit would melt the battery the demand for power would mean you could not have it unplugged at all im also sure you would need a big memory card cuase windows 7 needs at least 2gb ram to run and probably a good 5 gb of hard drive space wich would probably mean mutiple partinions on the sd card and thats just to start
I mostly agree but how is it that my netbook with 1gb of ram runs win7 just fine. (I did installed full 32bit)
Space I don't think is an issue, what about the XP phone? There are other phones and mini tablets that run windows and do fine. Maybe a modded version with certain resolution and bigger start button ect. Granted you can't run Photoshop but maybe open office or basic tasks.
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hellraiser-rh said:
OK, i don't know the videos, but i'm really thinking this is a fake.
I've heard rumours about people get win95 running (VM/emulator?) and this
is hard to belive.
But Windows 7 is not beliveable.
I shocked my friend with XP on my HD2, but truely it was only
the "Remote-Desktop".
And i think you're right, this is what's shown in this videos.
PS: with some tunings you can play sound's
and videos through the RDP-con. (via Wlan) and this looks still
awesome.
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well .. i am using win 95 on my touch hd.. and itz not fake.
soneracar said:
I mostly agree but how is it that my netbook with 1gb of ram runs win7 just fine. (I did installed full 32bit)
Space I don't think is an issue, what about the XP phone? There are other phones and mini tablets that run windows and do fine. Maybe a modded version with certain resolution and bigger start button ect. Granted you can't run Photoshop but maybe open office or basic tasks.
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Well honestly u cant compare netbook and HD2. Why? Because the CPUs got different architectures and that mean 1GHz in netbook isnt the same as 1GHz in HD2. Other thing is memory u got 1GB and HD2 512MB, well I guess for win 7 start, it would be enough, but still u have to boot the system and that is gona take a lot time. Not worth it, better remote access.
But there are already Windows 7 with tuch support on laptops because some laptops support touch screen on theirs LCD
Windows Vista/7 does not support the ARM processors used in mobile phones as they are not x86 devices. A netbook does use a x86 variant as a cpu and therefore can run any flavor of windows up to and including Windows 7
Well, win95 and 98 works fine on my touch pro and this is not a fake, but not really usefull and takes long time to boot, do not expect playing original price of persia on your phone. I have tried a great heroes of might and magic boot img file that has a minimalised version of win95 with touchscreen drivers, that do not have any UI and just loads the game. I wonder if anyone could possibly take a look at that file and say what files should be extracter in order to add touchscreen support to normal windows images? XP would be nice, but don't forget that emulator always runs MUCH slower than original system, so...
When the OP says they have seen "W7" on the hd2...... I think they are confusing "Windows 7" with "Windows compact embedded 7".........
its not a fake and its not remote desktop..
cotulla posted a video of this a while ago...........
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ok so i recently seen a video of the galaxy tab running windows 7 why cant we ? just wondering
Thegreat520 said:
ok so i recently seen a video of the galaxy tab running windows 7 why cant we ? just wondering
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Why would you want to and this belongs in q&a, general or heck even in the Galaxy Tab forum...
LOLOLOLOL
Windows NT is what most of the Windows versions that we care about today are based from, including XP and 7. Windows NT supports the x86 and other processor architectures. Unless we can get an x86 emulator, we will NEVER EVER see Windows 7 running on an ARM processor. It is also closed-source, so we can't get the source code to compile to ARM. And the documentation for the kernel and other components of Windows are secretly kept somewhere at Redmond, so even if we get the source, it will be an infinite pain to get everything working for this new architecture (things like HAL, hardware abstraction layer, which is specifically for PC hardware and who Windows depends on heavily). I can't begin to explain everything that will need to be magically fixed in order to get working. Windows 7, or any other Windows version, will never work on a platform that it was not intended to work on (unless, we do get a virtual machine and some hardware compatibility)
Windows CE will be much easier to port since it was intended for mobile ARM computers. If this does happen, we can get Windows Mobile working. But all of this crap is completely non-public, so keep dreaming.
*I probably didn't get everything in this post correct (like the part about HAL) but the conclusion is completely correct. Basically Windows 7 will never reach a device unless it's a PC.
You mean the actual OS or just the theme? There are Windows 7 themes already for Android. And yeah, why would you wanna bother putting Windows on an Android device?
o cool like the title said just a thought but why i would want it on our device is becuase it looked cool running on the tab so and i like windows so i would probably enjoy it
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LOLOLOLOL
Windows NT is what most of the Windows versions that we care about today are based from, including XP and 7. Windows NT supports the x86 and other processor architectures. Unless we can get an x86 emulator, we will NEVER EVER see Windows 7 running on an ARM processor. It is also closed-source, so we can't get the source code to compile to ARM. And the documentation for the kernel and other components of Windows are secretly kept somewhere at Redmond, so even if we get the source, it will be an infinite pain to get everything working for this new architecture (things like HAL, hardware abstraction layer, which is specifically for PC hardware and who Windows depends on heavily). I can't begin to explain everything that will need to be magically fixed in order to get working. Windows 7, or any other Windows version, will never work on a platform that it was not intended to work on (unless, we do get a virtual machine and some hardware compatibility)
Windows CE will be much easier to port since it was intended for mobile ARM computers. If this does happen, we can get Windows Mobile working. But all of this crap is completely non-public, so keep dreaming.
*I probably didn't get everything in this post correct (like the part about HAL) but the conclusion is completely correct. Basically Windows 7 will never reach a device unless it's a PC.
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thanks for all of this info i didnt understand lol becuase im not really familure with this type of stuff but from your post what is windows ce? i would really enjow anykind of windows on my device really i just said windows 7 becuase i saw the video thanks for the reply
Dude, seriously you should've just bought a Windows phone like an HD2 or something if you like windows that much.
I mean personally to me, the whole point of buying an android phone is to NOT have a Windows OS or even a Windows GUI..........just sayin.
djquick said:
Dude, seriously you should've just bought a Windows phone like an HD2 or something if you like windows that much.
I mean personally to me, the whole point of buying an android phone is to NOT have a Windows OS or even a Windows GUI..........just sayin.
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Nope I love android but what I was saying and suggesting is having both systems running and can switch back and fourth not saying I like windows phones more than android just seeing if it or anything like it,is possible
The best phone in the world
Thegreat520 said:
Nope I love android but what I was saying and suggesting is having both systems running and can switch back and fourth not saying I like windows phones more than android just seeing if it or anything like it,is possible
The best phone in the world
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maybe it is just me, but dual-booting was still cool in 1999, not anymore.
Stick to one OS on the device, be it a PC or a phone.
Last time I cared for Windows was again 1999 when I used UPS software to send the packages, and wished it was upgraded from Windows 3.1 to at least Windows 95 - and then I went to continue my education, and it was the end of the windows era for me
If you want to use both windows and android, why not get an HD2 and have it dual boot?
I'm pretty sure if you saw Windows 7 on the tab then it was probably some kind of remote access software, and not running natively
Hai guys
got a silly question - I was posting here and i was thinking, if thats possible (most likely if proper drivers available), and if somebody tried that already - especially considering that the Atrix has hardware specs like a netbook with SSD.
comments?
I mean that would be the ultimate show-off, plug your Atrix into a standard desktop Monitor, and windows 7 Boots up!!!!
cheers
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atlana said:
Hai guys
got a silly question - I was posting here and i was thinking, if thats possible (most likely if proper drivers available), and if somebody tried that already - especially considering that the Atrix has hardware specs like a netbook with SSD.
comments?
I mean that would be the ultimate show-off, plug your Atrix into a standard desktop Monitor, and windows 7 Boots up!!!!
cheers
@
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You could never run the full OS of Windows 7, it is made for x86/x64.
The Atrix is ARM. The only Windows 7-series OS that COULD work is Windows Embedded Compact 7. It is the latest evolution of Windows CE. Any desktop windows apps would need to be ported to this OS to work anyway.
This may sound like a weird question, but I am just curious to know if it is possible to install windows 7, or xp on Galaxy tab 10.1. As my limited knowledge about computers tells me, GT is essentially a computer with a cpu and ram and a kind of hard drive, so theoretically at least, it seems to me that it should be possible to install windows on the tablet.
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This may sound like a weird question, but I am just curious to know if it is possible to install windows 7, or xp on Galaxy tab 10.1. As my limited knowledge about computers tells me, GT is essentially a computer with a cpu and ram and a kind of hard drive, so theoretically at least, it seems to me that it should be possible to install windows on the tablet.
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Welcome to the forums. The answer is no. Windows won't run on the chip that's in the tablet (it's called ARM architecture; same reason windows won't run on a cellphone). I've heard rumors that windows 8 may be possible at some point.
I have Windows 7 on my Tab 10 so yes you can use Windows 7.
5thElement said:
I have Windows 7 on my Tab 10 so yes you can use Windows 7.
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and how did you manage this?
5thElement said:
I have Windows 7 on my Tab 10 so yes you can use Windows 7.
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You have the install disc sitting on your Tab?
Seriously, though. That sounds like horse**** from the same guy who claims to have played with Kal-el devices. Let's see a video.
How's this?
Splashtop HD running my home computer from work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0x48GuhNnI
Excuse the fumbling. It's hard to work the screen looking at the phone screen. And I should mention that we only have an 802.11g connection here at work.
Thank you Jay Evans for proving them wrong.
Well, holy hell! That means I have OS X Lion running on my Tab.
Thank you for the replies. Although I understand that some of us here might be in a rather humorous mood, but just to clarify: my question was not about remote desktops. I still think there has to be a way to have windows running on GT. Another question in this regard is about virtual machines. Is there any kind of VM available for honeycomb tablets?
While it might be possible you wouldn't enjoy the results. Especialy if you want to run actual programs on it. It would be as slow as molassas and suck the battery dry in no time.
Better to buy a Win 7 tablet and wait for something like Bluestacks to run Android or wait for the ARM version of Win 8.
It won't happen, Windows is based off x86 architecture and Android Tablets and phones are based off of ARM architecture, Windows 8 will have support for ARM though, so wait a year
While the answer to your question is still 'no', it is possible to run Windows 95 or 98 using emulators. There is a QEMU port for Android ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6661598 ) that does it, and I've also heard that you can install windows using AnDosBox.
hey guys there is a rumor about windows 8 coming out for tablets and im so excited for that .. yet my question is will this windows 8 for tablet be able to run windows games like a PC ? lets say i want to install some game like Need for speed or call of duty will it be able to run it as a PC windows ?
Thanks
With all respect
madshark2009 said:
hey guys there is a rumor about windows 8 coming out for tablets and im so excited for that .. yet my question is will this windows 8 for tablet be able to run windows games like a PC ? lets say i want to install some game like Need for speed or call of duty will it be able to run it as a PC windows ?
Thanks
With all respect
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Tablet based on Tegra or Snapdragon gets Windows RT. This is Windows for ARM and will not run normal PC games.
Tabled based on X86 (for example Intel) gets Windows 8. This is windows for PC and will be able to run normal PC games (and windows applications). (if the GPU has enough power ofcourse)
Though I expect the ARM version will have much better battery life and is more suitable for a tablet.
And keep in mind that game developers are already making game engines for Windows RT. For example, there is already a demo for the Unreal3 Engine.
madshark2009 said:
hey guys there is a rumor about windows 8 coming out for tablets and im so excited for that .. yet my question is will this windows 8 for tablet be able to run windows games like a PC ? lets say i want to install some game like Need for speed or call of duty will it be able to run it as a PC windows ?
Thanks
With all respect
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i believe you're expecting to intall windows on Prime. Sorry to dissapoint you, but this will not be possible.. Windows 8 for tablet will only be available for OEM.
ooh thanks guys ! and what do you mean only available on oem ? ive seen videos on youtube about this asus having windows 8 on it ? well ?
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ooh thanks guys ! and what do you mean only available on oem ? ive seen videos on youtube about this asus having windows 8 on it ? well ?
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Only available to manufacturers. Is not like normal windows where you buy a license on a store and install on any x86 computer. Is more like Windows Phones where the OS is attached with the phone..
And since is a closed source OS, i doubt the community can install it on other devices (maybe on tablets where exists models for both versions with the same hardware this can be done, i don't know)
madshark2009 said:
ooh thanks guys ! and what do you mean only available on oem ? ive seen videos on youtube about this asus having windows 8 on it ? well ?
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If you search wikipedia for Windows 8 RT you will see the hardware requirements and then see why you should not expect to see W8 on the TFP:
Hardware buttons: Must have five hardware buttons - 'Power', 'Rotation lock', 'Windows Key', 'Volume-up', 'Volume-down'. The Windows Key to be at least 10.5 mm in diameter.
Five-point digitizers: Microsoft requires that Windows 8 touch PCs use digitizers supporting a minimum of five touch points.
Mobile Broadband: If a mobile broadband device is integrated into a tablet or convertible system, then an assisted GPS radio is required
Display: Minimum native resolution/color depth is 1366x768 at a depth of 32-bits. The physical dimensions of the display panel must match the aspect ratio of the native resolution. The native resolution of the panel can be greater than 1366 (horizontally) and 768 (vertically).
Near field communication: Devices supporting NFC need to have visual marks to help users locate and use the proximity technology.
New button combination for Control-Alt-Delete: The new option is to press Windows Key + Power.
Storage: At least 10 GB free space, after the out-of-box experience completes.
Graphics: Direct3D 10 device with WDDM 1.2 driver
Camera: Minimum resolution 1280 x 720[5]
Ambient light sensor: 1-30k lux capable with dynamic range of 5-60K.
Accelerometer: three axes with data rates at or above 50 Hz
Magnetometer and gyroscope
USB 2.0: At least one controller and exposed port.
Networking: WLAN and Bluetooth 4.0 + LE (low energy)
System firmware: UEFI
Built-in speaker and microphone[6]
If anyone can resolve the hardware issues they then have to persuade MS to supply them with W8 Licences (projected to be 85$). There is no indication that W8RT will be sold as a retail product and it will be sold to tablet manufacturers - OEM's -original equipment manufacturer / manufacturing.
If I remember correctly, there was an app you could download from Google Play Store which would allow you to run a version of Windows 8 on your Transformer tablets. It required that you have W8 installed on a desktop and connected your tablet to it. If the system can run the OS if you paid for the app, it should be able to run it standalone as well. Just my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions...
Long story short, possible but unlikely.
You're looking for Windows RT, the ARM version of Windows 8 (vs the Intel version that will run all the old apps we known and love and run on our intel computers). It is certainly possible (hell, probably extremely easy) to install Windows RT on our Transformer Primes. In fact I'd venture a guess to say most of Asus' Windows RT tablets are nothing but transformers, an extra button, and a few extra hardware features Windows mandates it have (ie the "Windows" button). That being said, in a TECHNICAL sense, it should be uber easy to install Windows RT.
The issue comes with licensing, legalese, and most of the crap most of us here hate because all it does is make our lives more difficult and expensive when we know damn well the hardware is capable. Microsoft has already said a few things that don't sit right with me. A few below:
1. All Windows RT devices must have locked UEFI bootloaders (ie, NO installing Android or Ubuntu, when all 3 COULD be installed in dual-triple boot configurations)
2. Windows RT will only be available to OEMs to be installed from the factory (no installing to Android devices, despite the hardware being capable.)
3. All Windows RT devices must only be able to install software from the market (with MS's 30% cut like Apple) and ONLY be for the metro environment, not the legacy desktop.
This all being said, I'm the proud owner of the HTC HD2 and if you look at that thing, which Microsoft said would never get Windows Phone despite satisfying 98% of their hardware specs, it's currently running the latest versions of Windows Phone AND Android (JB). This is all from a device that shipped with Windows MOBILE 6.5 in October of 2010. Performance is on par with single-core windows phones and single-core snapdragon chips (similar to what's in the original EVO).
It's possible, the question is, who's willing to cross Microsoft, and what kind of encryption needs to be broken first. It WILL happen, the question is a) how long and b) which devices are popular/worth it enough to MAKE it happen.
Until Microsoft fixes their current trajectory to their own 'clo$ed eco$y$tem' like Apple, I'll wait...
Hi,
I was thinking about installing Windows on my Ultra.
Could you please tell me if this is possible ? I have heard that some problem with the Bios may arise
thanks for your expert advice !
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Urm i think there is more to it than just a bios problem.
jutley said:
Urm i think there is more to it than just a bios problem.
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It is perfectly possible if there is somebody to bother doing it. Years ago I was a happy owner of the HTC HD2....a device that could run perfectly Windows Mobile, Windows Phone, Android, Ubunto and much more Only iOS was never fully ported [ It could even dual boot Windows Phone and Android, Some folks tried even tripple boot.
There was in fact a full Windows 95 installation for the HD2. I guess newer versions of Windows would not run on it in at a decent speed. Not very usefull for daily use but a nice way to shock everybody :laugh: Sometimes I really miss this device and it's unique developer support. You could really have a totally different phone EVERY day without spending even a euro.
The HD2 is a freak of nature. It started out with Windows Mobile, so that's the reason why it can run "everything Microsoft" out of the box. Android and Ubuntu are open, so it's fairly easy to "port" them to it. iOS is closed like WM/WP, so that's why they haven't fully succeeded to get iOS up and running.
Is it possible to get Windows on the Ultra? Maybe, but i can't imagine any sane person would do it. It would've been all over the place if it was easy.
And just for the lulz, here's Engadget's HD2 review
"The HD2 is a magnificent monster. It is a hulking, intimidating, massive slab of a gadget. If you think the device looks big in photos, it's nothing compared to how it seems up close. Yes, the HD2 is large -- some might say too large -- almost less a phone and more a tablet." - Engadget
Totally agreed also a lot of drivers issues as well probably... That would be simply awesome, the Ultra is doing everything for me when it relates to multimedia and most of my office tasks can be done there that is why I was dreaming about a bluetooth mouse and keyboard and an mhl cable and I can drop my laptop but apparently it is not for now
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I'm waiting for @krabappel2548 to port ubuntu touch to the ultra. If I had done any low level stuff I would give it a crack my self
baolen said:
Totally agreed also a lot of drivers issues as well probably... That would be simply awesome, the Ultra is doing everything for me when it relates to multimedia and most of my office tasks can be done there that is why I was dreaming about a bluetooth mouse and keyboard and an mhl cable and I can drop my laptop but apparently it is not for now
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You can always use remote desktop if you're desperate
LordManhattan said:
You can always use remote desktop if you're desperate
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Dear Lord Manhattan,
thanks as I like to follow through, I followed your advice !
but my problem is that the screen resolution output with my MHL is too low, is it the same for you guys ? Each pixel is like a cm square
I did set the screen size to 100pc but nothing changed, my monitor is a Full HD 21 inch
thanks for your expert advice
B