Flashing with ODIN without formatting data - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I see when I flashed JI2 and JI4 through ODIN all my existing data was erased but JI5 didn't erase any data. From this, it seems its coded into the ROM whether to erase data before flashing.
Is there a way to force ODIN to :
1) format current data
2) do not format current data
Thanks for the help ...

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[Q] Question about wiping data and cache

I'm just curious if after wiping data and cache when flashing a new rom will you still be able to run titanium and restore apps and data. Now I've made a backup copy of the internal storage and placed it on my pc, but the transfer rate is so slow that I'm compelled to ask my question.
yea you'll be fine running titanium.. and wiping data will not touch your music/photos

Atrix rebooting continuously on Stock ATT 2.3.4 after Opera installation

Hi,
I'm running stock ATT 4.5.91 plus root applied. Just some minutes ago I tried to install Opera Mobile from the market and during installation the phone rebooted. After that, the system keeps rebooting at the unlock screen (all I can see it is mounting the storage system).
I tried wiping cache from stock android recovery but it still keeps rebooting.
I guess a factory reset could solve the problem, but I'd like to save some data I have on the internal memory. Is there any chance of saving them?
Thanks in advance!
cheveoner said:
Hi,
I'm running stock ATT 4.5.91 plus root applied. Just some minutes ago I tried to install Opera Mobile from the market and during installation the phone rebooted. After that, the system keeps rebooting at the unlock screen (all I can see it is mounting the storage system).
I tried wiping cache from stock android recovery but it still keeps rebooting.
I guess a factory reset could solve the problem, but I'd like to save some data I have on the internal memory. Is there any chance of saving them?
Thanks in advance!
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Not sure if the stock recovery allows it but can't you mount usb & then save whatever needs to be saved?
Stock recovery doesn't include that option. Still, I connected the phone to the computer and never happened.
you want to save the stuff thats on your "internal sd card" or data that is on the /data partition? if oyu do a factory wipe it asks you if you want to wipe internal sd or not, so if you want to save data form there you can do a factory wip and it shouldnt wipe it. Otherwise flash a service sbf (if you are on stock 2.3.4 with that bootloader, you can only flash the 2.3.4 sbf or eventually pudding sbf but than you need to unlock your device, which deletes your data, so the onyl option is stock 2.3.4 service sbf)
crnkoj said:
you want to save the stuff thats on your "internal sd card" or data that is on the /data partition? if oyu do a factory wipe it asks you if you want to wipe internal sd or not, so if you want to save data form there you can do a factory wip and it shouldnt wipe it. Otherwise flash a service sbf (if you are on stock 2.3.4 with that bootloader, you can only flash the 2.3.4 sbf or eventually pudding sbf but than you need to unlock your device, which deletes your data, so the onyl option is stock 2.3.4 service sbf)
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I just did the wipe data/factory reset and it left the internal sd card untouched, so that was perfect! I didn't know that this option just erases /data.
Now I'm going to unlock the bootloader and install a better recovery and CM7. If this is going to happen again, there is no point in remaining stock (at least in my case).
Thanks both for your help!

Using CWM formats before flashing new roms?

Hi
When you want to do a clean install of Windows OS, you all know that the right way to go is to format the primary partition first..
I was wondering: why can't we do the "same" in Android?
I've noticed that in CWM recovery there are many format options in addition to just doing Wipes...
So what if instead of doing the old Wipe data/cache and factory reset before flashing new rom, especially when migrating from Sammy to AOSP, we use the FORMAT function of the CWM recovery console?
So this bring up my new line of questions:
Which Formats are safe (as in terms of not bricking only, since we all know that we must backup first)?
Is Format data safe and recommended before flashing?
Is Format system safe and recommended before flashing?
Is Format SD card safe and recommended before flashing?
Does Format system erases the entire OS, meaning the ROM with it's kernel? If kernel is wiped does it mean that CWM will be lost upon next boot?
Same goes for Format SDCARD. Will this erase the entire internal memory? So the new ROM.ZIP should be placed in the external SD first?
I'd really appreciate if someone could answer all of the above questions
Many thanks
EB
If you don't have bad chip then all are safe. If you have bad chip then make sure you have safe kernel.
General steps before flashing a new ROM.
1. Backup your present ROM just incase
1. Wipe data/ factory reset
2. Wipe cache partition
3. Wipe dalvik cache (under advanced)
4. Format /system (under mount)
5. Flash your desired Rom/zips
6. Fix permissions (under advanced)
Notes:
- If you are moving from from an AOSP ROM to Samsung (vice versa), perform all the steps above.
- If you are upgrading / downgrading from one android version to another e.g ICS to jellybean or 4.0.3 to 4.0.4, also perform all the steps above.
- If you are upgrading from a Samsung ROM to another wipe the same android version, you may skip step 1.
- if you are upgrading your Aosp/aokp Rom with another with the same android version e.g 4.0.4 Aosp to 4.0.4 aokp, you may also skip step 1.
*******Important******
If you are presently running a Samsung based 4.0.4 Rom that is using Samsung based kernel e.g CF-ROOT or stock kernel, please flash Siyah kernel before performing any of the above steps. You will end up with ash unusable device if you don't adhere to this important information.
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII
Jokesy said:
General steps before flashing a new ROM.
1. Backup your present ROM just incase
1. Wipe data/ factory reset
2. Wipe cache partition
3. Wipe dalvik cache (under advanced)
4. Format /system (under mount)
5. Flash your desired Rom/zips
6. Fix permissions (under advanced)
Notes:
- If you are moving from from an AOSP ROM to Samsung (vice versa), perform all the steps above.
- If you are upgrading / downgrading from one android version to another e.g ICS to jellybean or 4.0.3 to 4.0.4, also perform all the steps above.
- If you are upgrading from a Samsung ROM to another wipe the same android version, you may skip step 1.
- if you are upgrading your Aosp/aokp Rom with another with the same android version e.g 4.0.4 Aosp to 4.0.4 aokp, you may also skip step 1.
*******Important******
If you are presently running a Samsung based 4.0.4 Rom that is using Samsung based kernel e.g CF-ROOT or stock kernel, please flash Siyah kernel before performing any of the above steps. You will end up with ash unusable device if you don't adhere to this important information.
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII
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Thanks
Just 2 more questions:
1. what about format Format SDcard (internal)? Is it also safe/recommended? What does it do exactly?
2. can any of the the above formats delete the IMIE? Where i it stored? On internal SDcard? Will formatting it delete it?
Thanks
EB10000 said:
Thanks
Just 2 more questions:
1. what about format Format SDcard (internal)? Is it also safe/recommended? What does it do exactly?
2. can any of the the above formats delete the IMIE? Where i it stored? On internal SDcard? Will formatting it delete it?
Thanks
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Formatting the Internal Sd card wipes all your data (music, photos, videos) on the internal memory of the phone.
Doing all those wipes doesnt affect the IMEI as far as I know...
Sent from my Galaxy S2 GT i9100
EB10000 said:
Thanks
Just 2 more questions:
1. what about format Format SDcard (internal)? Is it also safe/recommended? What does it do exactly?
2. can any of the the above formats delete the IMIE? Where i it stored? On internal SDcard? Will formatting it delete it?
Thanks
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1. You're first question has been answered in the post before mine.
2. About IMEI:
-Your IMEI is stored in your root folder /efs inn your system reserved partition.
-Flashing Roms and kernel shouldn't mess with this folder but sometimes it happens.
-most of the Roms Agnes kernels made by recognized developers will backup your efs folder before flashing.
-too be on a safer side though, you can visit the thread below to backup your efs (imei) folder yourself before messing with your phone.
Look here: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308546
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII
Jokesy said:
1. You're first question has been answered in the post before mine.
2. About IMEI:
-Your IMEI is stored in your root folder /efs inn your system reserved partition.
-Flashing Roms and kernel shouldn't mess with this folder but sometimes it happens.
-most of the Roms Agnes kernels made by recognized developers will backup your efs folder before flashing.
-too be on a safer side though, you can visit the thread below to backup your efs (imei) folder yourself before messing with your phone.
Look here: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308546
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII
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Thanks again
My problem is that I keep thinking in MS Windows terms.. I was sure that "Format SDCARD" is the parallel to formatting the entire "Hard drive", just like to delete the system partition..
Know let me see if I got everything right:
Format system is like deleting the Windows folder - no more OS (ROM)
Format data is like deleting all user account = deleting the "Programs data" folder in Windows - no more app data
Formatting SDCARD is like deleting the "Users" folder including "my documents" - no more user private data
So by using the 3 above formats, there is no need to do a Factory reset. But what about Wipe cache and Dalvik? shouldn't System format take care of those two caches? Or perhaps Cache and Dalvik are to separate partitions?
And for the few last question, so I can finally declare myself an Android expert :
(1) Format boot is a very bad idea right? It will delete the bootloader, meaning one must flash a rom that includes one of it's own?
(2) Are all roms intended for CWM flashing come with their own boot partition?
(3) So if Format boot is risky, I can conclude that the CWM recovery must be part of the boot partition right?
Many thanks for all the help. Once I get all of this right, I will feel confidant to start flashing roms on my own for the first time (I already got my phone rooted and CWMed by flashing Siyah kernel using Odin
EB10000 said:
Thanks again
My problem is that I keep thinking in MS Windows terms.. I was sure that "Format SDCARD" is the parallel to formatting the entire "Hard drive", just like to delete the system partition..
Know let me see if I got everything right:
Format system is like deleting the Windows folder - no more OS (ROM)
Format data is like deleting all user account = deleting the "Programs data" folder in Windows - no more app data
Formatting SDCARD is like deleting the "Users" folder including "my documents" - no more user private data
So by using the 3 above formats, there is no need to do a Factory reset. But what about Wipe cache and Dalvik? shouldn't System format take care of those two caches? Or perhaps Cache and Dalvik are to separate partitions?
And for the few last question, so I can finally declare myself an Android expert :
(1) Format boot is a very bad idea right? It will delete the bootloader, meaning one must flash a rom that includes one of it's own?
(2) Are all roms intended for CWM flashing come with their own boot partition?
(3) So if Format boot is risky, I can conclude that the CWM recovery must be part of the boot partition right?
Many thanks for all the help. Once I get all of this right, I will feel confidant to start flashing roms on my own for the first time (I already got my phone rooted and CWMed by flashing Siyah kernel using Odin
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1) As far as I know, the boot partition is reserved for kernel. So, if you format it, phone won't be able to boot further than the initial Sgs2 logo. But it will still be flashable in Download mode.
2) If kernel is a part of boot partition, and most roms come with their own kernels, the you could say that the come with their own boot data.
3) If you format boot, you will also loose Cwm as it is a part of the kernel. Download mode would be still accessible as it is a part of the (secondary) bootloader which can be only overriden with Odin.
But again, I'm not 100% sure about this.
Sent from my Galaxy S2 GT i9100
Thanks
Jokesy said:
General steps before flashing a new ROM.
1. Backup your present ROM just incase
1. Wipe data/ factory reset
2. Wipe cache partition
3. Wipe dalvik cache (under advanced)
4. Format /system (under mount)
5. Flash your desired Rom/zips
6. Fix permissions (under advanced)
Notes:
- If you are moving from from an AOSP ROM to Samsung (vice versa), perform all the steps above.
- If you are upgrading / downgrading from one android version to another e.g ICS to jellybean or 4.0.3 to 4.0.4, also perform all the steps above.
- If you are upgrading from a Samsung ROM to another wipe the same android version, you may skip step 1.
- if you are upgrading your Aosp/aokp Rom with another with the same android version e.g 4.0.4 Aosp to 4.0.4 aokp, you may also skip step 1.
*******Important******
If you are presently running a Samsung based 4.0.4 Rom that is using Samsung based kernel e.g CF-ROOT or stock kernel, please flash Siyah kernel before performing any of the above steps. You will end up with ash unusable device if you don't adhere to this important information.
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII
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You saved a noob a whole lot of troble:cyclops:
I want to erase all my previous data in internal storage. More specifically, erase the OS and data (app data, user data, media, etc), then I'm gonna flash new ROM.
But of course, I don't want to erase boot system and recovery system.
1. Can I do above by using CWM - Mounts : format /sdcard ?
2. Does format /sdcard include format /system, /data, /cache, and wipe dalvik cache?
3. Is format /sdcard safe to do?
The answer !!!
immanuel77 said:
I want to erase all my previous data in internal storage. More specifically, erase the OS and data (app data, user data, media, etc), then I'm gonna flash new ROM.
But of course, I don't want to erase boot system and recovery system.
1. Can I do above by using CWM - Mounts : format /sdcard ?
2. Does format /sdcard include format /system, /data, /cache, and wipe dalvik cache?
3. Is format /sdcard safe to do?
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I've found the answer here:
http ://www .addictivetips. com/mobile/android-partitions-explained-boot-system-recovery-data-cache-misc/
(eliminate all spaces, as I cannot post URL yet)
Now we know what to wipe or format (and what to not format)
immanuel77 said:
I want to erase all my previous data in internal storage. More specifically, erase the OS and data (app data, user data, media, etc), then I'm gonna flash new ROM.
But of course, I don't want to erase boot system and recovery system.
1. Can I do above by using CWM - Mounts : format /sdcard ?
2. Does format /sdcard include format /system, /data, /cache, and wipe dalvik cache?
3. Is format /sdcard safe to do?
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To install a new rom, you don't have to wipe the internal sdcard, just wipe data & cache and navigate to advanced and wipe dalvik cache, and then to mount and format system, then flash your rom, or use TWRP it's easier, press wipe then advanced wipe and mark (data, cache, dalvik cache, system) and swipe to wipe, then flash your rom.
Ps: all app data is removed from internal storage (data in sdcard\android) when you wipe data, so you don't have to wipe internal storage

Factory reset+flash wiped my memory

Hi All,
I did a factory reset today and flashed the stock 4.1.1 Polish ROM via Odin. This process seems to have wiped my files (including photos etc) from my S3 (internal memory, not SD card). I've flashed plenty of ROMS before and this has never happened.
Anyone know if it's possible to get them back? I guess I've installed new apps etc now so a lot of the data would have been overwritten. Frustrating!
Thanks for any tips.
UnitedWeFall said:
Hi All,
I did a factory reset today and flashed the stock 4.1.1 Polish ROM via Odin. This process seems to have wiped my files (including photos etc) from my S3 (internal memory, not SD card). I've flashed plenty of ROMS before and this has never happened.
Anyone know if it's possible to get them back? I guess I've installed new apps etc now so a lot of the data would have been overwritten. Frustrating!
Thanks for any tips.
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You answered your own question with your first sentence : I did a factory reset...
Unfortunately its not possible to get back the data
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Unless you backed up on PC or sd card...
Factory reset in S3 will always wipe internal memory as it shares internal memory for applications.
If you want to restore try some data recovery software that supports SD card.
ultramag69 said:
Unless you backed up on PC or sd card...
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That would be the only way. There is a very small window to recover data wiped from flash memory and on a phone it would be even more difficult. Maybe a Clockwork backup?
Internal SDcard is mounted on the system partition via Fuse..so if you format the /system partition..sdcard is formatted as well..
Pointers for future..
Use CWM for flashing ROMS..(I hate Odin )
Backup your internal SDcard on your PC regularly
Perform a Nandroid Backup on your ExtSDcard before flashing any ROM.
If you ever need to factory reset..use the wipe data/factory reset option in CWM and not in Stock Recovery
For a clean install, if you want to wipe system partition..use wipe /system option under mount and format in CWM..it just wipes the system files and your SDcard data will be safe..
You will not face such issues if you in the future if you follow these pointers.
zoot1 said:
Internal SDcard is mounted on the system partition via Fuse..so if you format the /system partition..sdcard is formatted as well..
Pointers for future..
Use CWM for flashing ROMS..(I hate Odin )
Backup your internal SDcard on your PC regularly
Perform a Nandroid Backup on your ExtSDcard before flashing any ROM.
If you ever need to factory reset..use the wipe data/factory reset option in CWM and not in Stock Recovery
For a clean install, if you want to wipe system partition..use wipe /system option under mount and format in CWM..it just wipes the system files and your SDcard data will be safe..
You will not face such issues if you in the future if you follow these pointers.
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Thanks for that. Lesson learnt I guess..

repartition with ODIN

Hello,
does repartition with ODIN and pit file erase all data from the phone when flashing a rom? I need to completely wipe internal SDCARD, from apps to user photos, videos, etc.. BROKEN SCREEN. I can only use ODIN in download mode, or boot recovery.
I already flashed with the pit file selecting repartition, but I don't know if it erased all of the data on the internal SD.
Thank you

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