Hi all.
I am using watchdog task manager and according to this program the max free memory I have are 5mb (15mb are used by this appl). I use just 3 desktop with ADW launcher and I have not installed more than 4 o 5 applications. Is there a better program to see how much free memory I have and what program is consuming it? is it normal the low free memory in x10 mini?
Second, after rooting and delete some standard applications I notice that phone takes a lot time to turn on. Is there any boot log to look for errors or problems?
And finally, as I said I am using ADW Launcher, but every time I turn off and on the phone, watchdog lists the default SE Launcher running iddle in background, I kill it but its start again when I turn on the phone. Is it normal? can i delete the default launcher safely?
In summary I think i need a better task manager
PS: sorry my english.
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Ok I have looked around and have not found the answer. SO here Goes
In windows if you want to keep the memory that you have clear of background applications, you can run system configuration and just remove the check-mark for those items you dont want to auto start.
I have Advanced Task Killer installed and will set it up to auto kill and will manual kill apps as well. Instead of consistently looking at ATK to shut down apps, is there a way to just keep all the apps you not using nor have ever started from suddenly being there and sucking the life out of your battery?
Having applications "running" in the background (i.e., still in memory but in a suspended state) does NOT negatively affect your battery life. These applications are actually just remaining in memory because that memory does not need to be used by anything else at the moment. If an active application gets to a point where it needs more memory, Android will automatically close applications that are in a suspended state (i.e., not actively being used) to make room.
In other words, using an app killer is NOT necessary and I definitely recommend NOT using one. By closing the application repeatedly, you are just causing the application to take a longer amount of time to start up next time you use it. You're making your Android experience worse by using one, not better.
There is one caveat to this, and that is when you have an application installed that doesn't play nicely -- i.e., even when you stop using that application, it will continue to use up CPU cycles (never go into a suspended state). This is actually pretty rare unless you are installing really poorly written programs, but it can happen to some popular apps too (usually the result of a bug). In this case, you should either uninstall that application or use an app killer to only kill that one app.
I've heard both sides of this argument, and don't know who to believe. I didn't think I needed a Task Killer, but then I saw it repeatedly on "top 10 apps for Android" and "must have Android apps" lists from respected sites like cnet... who to believe?!
Cnet ≠ respected
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drumist said:
Having applications "running" in the background (i.e., still in memory but in a suspended state) does NOT negatively affect your battery life.
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I need to confirm this. Anyone? I dont care about memory because I bet Android excels at that, and at any rate, memory is there to be used, not to keep it empty.
But I come from a Symbian smartphone and "minimized" applications DO uses battery. Maybe little, but noticeable.
Anyone can confirm that background apps consume negligible battery juice?
Additionally, is there a nice task changer? Like windows Alt+Tab. I feel my Android like an iPhone, that I need to press the home button to move to another already opened app and that's just plain stupid. So far I'm using Multitasking Lite, but it can get sluggish once there are too many apps opened. Any suggestion would be warmly welcomed.
"Running" background apps DO NOT consume battery life unless they're actively syncing. If it's just in the memory saving the state of the app then that is fine.
As far as using a task killer, if you are manually killing apps and they keep starting back up then that is a bad thing for your battery. The app uses cpu cycles everytime it starts up again and syncs data. You can use a task killer to close apps that opened on startup or when you're done with them. If they stay closed until you choose to open them again then you're saving memory, but nothing to do with battery life.
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"Running" background apps DO NOT consume battery life unless they're actively syncing. If it's just in the memory saving the state of the app then that is fine
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Thanks for confirming ;]
Darius_bd said:
Additionally, is there a nice task changer? Like windows Alt+Tab. I feel my Android like an iPhone, that I need to press the home button to move to another already opened app and that's just plain stupid. So far I'm using Multitasking Lite, but it can get sluggish once there are too many apps opened. Any suggestion would be warmly welcomed.
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Obviously you can switch over to some apps by pulling down the notification menu and selecting the appropriate app. That only works on apps that put themselves in the notification menu though (multimedia apps and things like Google Nav usually do this).
Otherwise, you can press and hold the home button to bring up the list of 8 most recently opened apps without exiting the active app. This works but like I said, it's the 8 most recent apps, so it will list apps that aren't necessarily still running anymore. It's more of a shortcut to having to go search in your apps menu or home screens to find a recent app than a way to see what is currently running.
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Otherwise, you can press and hold the home button to bring up the list of 8 most recently opened apps without exiting the active app. This works but like I said, it's the 8 most recent apps, so it will list apps that aren't necessarily still running anymore. It's more of a shortcut to having to go search in your apps menu or home screens to find a recent app than a way to see what is currently running.
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What can I say, I hate pressing the home key to hunt for the icon that opens the app I already opened more than 6 other apps ago ;] Guess I'll stick to Multitasking Lite for the time being. Thanks!
People say don't use task killers because they waste more power then they save....which makes sense but a bit contradictory and some background knowledge would help me.
Is this mainly if you use them to automatically close certain apps or is it also if you use a task killer just to monitor them and close a few certain apps manually when you back out of them (since a few select apps like to keep running even if you never need them)
So is the stock active application widget power/battery consuming? or only if you keep 'clearing memory', or is clearing memory every now and again good? I currently clear my memory when it gets to 500mb used....is there any point to this ..performance/ battery?
And lastly, if i were to put on go launcher....could i still use active applications or should i remove it and use the go launcher version (which is quite cool)
I have Xperia Neo, its very nice mobile phone. But i have a problem, there is a lot of apps open in background. I wanna close them (cuz while i playing a game sometimes the game was stopped.). How can i do?
Advanced Task Killer should be able to help you out
thanks ..very helpful for me too
Advance task mangers are good however they are temporary as most apps that run in the background will start back up again. I found setting it on auto kill using one of aggressive setting the best option to use with the least amount of time between kills. Dont use the most aggressive option as that kills system also.
I generally just kill stuff when I find the phone to be running slowly
thank you .
i will have a try.
juice defende is better then task killers
Still looking for a decent task manager. Everytime i use the task manager widget (the default one) it feels like it doesn't do ****.
And it's pretty annoying to press the 'recent opened applications' button and manually remove everything :/
Any suggestions? there are tons in the market...
autokiller memory optimizer is the best
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Do you NEED to manage your tasks?
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no need for it but try system tuner
If your rooted then autokiller is great (but not needed on devices with 1 gb of ram) it adjusts your ram settings. If your looking for a true task killer they are not needed and cause more harm than good, make sure not to set it to auto kill, only kill apps manually and only if you know they are a problem, if so they should also be uninstalled. If you have it set to auto kill, or you manually kill all apps it will eat up more battery and slow down your device because its working to restore the apps into memory (apps in memory are not using resources or negatively effecting the device unless your down to under 100 MB which should happen mainly on devices with 512 MB or less ram, and occasionally on devices with 768 mb)
As I know the use of task killer on android is kept questioning for a very long time, and I usually set the task killer to auto-kill apps every two hours and my phone is just fine which will not slow down too much after long time usage.
However, I discovered that if you opened an app, go back to home screen by pressing "home" button, and use the task killer to kill the app, and return to that app, it opened with the original screen at the point you exit it by pressing home button - that means the app is not killed!!! I'm sure it is not due to "restart" feature of that app, because I've tried for many times on different apps, which does not carry any services at all. If I'm correct, exiting an app by pressing home button will just leaving the app at the background and eating memory even without any services??
At this point I tried using auto killer optimizer, as I saw a feature which let you set different min-free values when the screen is off. So I set aggressive mode, turn-off the screen, wait for a while and turned on the screen. But the result isn't satisfied: the available memory is still very low, opened apps were not killed (can directly return to the original screen at the point you exit it by pressing home button), even I set the min-free to kill background empty app to 150MB (at that moment the phone only have 45MB free RAM), it does nothing. Is it because it requires a restart? If so, then the feature to change min-free value while screen off is unable to be used.
At last, it seems the best way to free up memory is to : restart the phone OR run a big game After playing big game, the phone usually speeds up a lot and the free RAM goes back to the level similar to what you have after a restart of the phone
Any ideas on this topic??
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Just discovered a mistake made by me /_\ the task killer can't kill app automatically because I set the auto kill level to "safe", after set to "aggressive" or "crazy", it can successfully kill apps
And I saw that some apps still appear after "aggressive" kill, these are apps which can restart itself, so I put them into "ignore list" (as restarting an app cost much battery)