Hi all.
I am using watchdog task manager and according to this program the max free memory I have are 5mb (15mb are used by this appl). I use just 3 desktop with ADW launcher and I have not installed more than 4 o 5 applications. Is there a better program to see how much free memory I have and what program is consuming it? is it normal the low free memory in x10 mini?
Second, after rooting and delete some standard applications I notice that phone takes a lot time to turn on. Is there any boot log to look for errors or problems?
And finally, as I said I am using ADW Launcher, but every time I turn off and on the phone, watchdog lists the default SE Launcher running iddle in background, I kill it but its start again when I turn on the phone. Is it normal? can i delete the default launcher safely?
In summary I think i need a better task manager
PS: sorry my english.
Ok I have looked around and have not found the answer. SO here Goes
In windows if you want to keep the memory that you have clear of background applications, you can run system configuration and just remove the check-mark for those items you dont want to auto start.
I have Advanced Task Killer installed and will set it up to auto kill and will manual kill apps as well. Instead of consistently looking at ATK to shut down apps, is there a way to just keep all the apps you not using nor have ever started from suddenly being there and sucking the life out of your battery?
Having applications "running" in the background (i.e., still in memory but in a suspended state) does NOT negatively affect your battery life. These applications are actually just remaining in memory because that memory does not need to be used by anything else at the moment. If an active application gets to a point where it needs more memory, Android will automatically close applications that are in a suspended state (i.e., not actively being used) to make room.
In other words, using an app killer is NOT necessary and I definitely recommend NOT using one. By closing the application repeatedly, you are just causing the application to take a longer amount of time to start up next time you use it. You're making your Android experience worse by using one, not better.
There is one caveat to this, and that is when you have an application installed that doesn't play nicely -- i.e., even when you stop using that application, it will continue to use up CPU cycles (never go into a suspended state). This is actually pretty rare unless you are installing really poorly written programs, but it can happen to some popular apps too (usually the result of a bug). In this case, you should either uninstall that application or use an app killer to only kill that one app.
I've heard both sides of this argument, and don't know who to believe. I didn't think I needed a Task Killer, but then I saw it repeatedly on "top 10 apps for Android" and "must have Android apps" lists from respected sites like cnet... who to believe?!
Cnet ≠ respected
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drumist said:
Having applications "running" in the background (i.e., still in memory but in a suspended state) does NOT negatively affect your battery life.
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I need to confirm this. Anyone? I dont care about memory because I bet Android excels at that, and at any rate, memory is there to be used, not to keep it empty.
But I come from a Symbian smartphone and "minimized" applications DO uses battery. Maybe little, but noticeable.
Anyone can confirm that background apps consume negligible battery juice?
Additionally, is there a nice task changer? Like windows Alt+Tab. I feel my Android like an iPhone, that I need to press the home button to move to another already opened app and that's just plain stupid. So far I'm using Multitasking Lite, but it can get sluggish once there are too many apps opened. Any suggestion would be warmly welcomed.
"Running" background apps DO NOT consume battery life unless they're actively syncing. If it's just in the memory saving the state of the app then that is fine.
As far as using a task killer, if you are manually killing apps and they keep starting back up then that is a bad thing for your battery. The app uses cpu cycles everytime it starts up again and syncs data. You can use a task killer to close apps that opened on startup or when you're done with them. If they stay closed until you choose to open them again then you're saving memory, but nothing to do with battery life.
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"Running" background apps DO NOT consume battery life unless they're actively syncing. If it's just in the memory saving the state of the app then that is fine
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Thanks for confirming ;]
Darius_bd said:
Additionally, is there a nice task changer? Like windows Alt+Tab. I feel my Android like an iPhone, that I need to press the home button to move to another already opened app and that's just plain stupid. So far I'm using Multitasking Lite, but it can get sluggish once there are too many apps opened. Any suggestion would be warmly welcomed.
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Obviously you can switch over to some apps by pulling down the notification menu and selecting the appropriate app. That only works on apps that put themselves in the notification menu though (multimedia apps and things like Google Nav usually do this).
Otherwise, you can press and hold the home button to bring up the list of 8 most recently opened apps without exiting the active app. This works but like I said, it's the 8 most recent apps, so it will list apps that aren't necessarily still running anymore. It's more of a shortcut to having to go search in your apps menu or home screens to find a recent app than a way to see what is currently running.
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Otherwise, you can press and hold the home button to bring up the list of 8 most recently opened apps without exiting the active app. This works but like I said, it's the 8 most recent apps, so it will list apps that aren't necessarily still running anymore. It's more of a shortcut to having to go search in your apps menu or home screens to find a recent app than a way to see what is currently running.
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What can I say, I hate pressing the home key to hunt for the icon that opens the app I already opened more than 6 other apps ago ;] Guess I'll stick to Multitasking Lite for the time being. Thanks!
Is there a way to ensure that apps close when I am done with them? I see no reason for angry birds to run in the background, requiring me to close it from manage apps in the settings. ATK is not a good solution for this correct?
Thanks! Guess I'm kinda anal about stuff running in the background.
Also, thumb keyboard doesn't seem to have a closing bracket for [ ?
well since froyo theres been a built in task manager that should take care of apps not being used anymore.
you can use atk or any other task killer but it will suck up more battery
Its been an ongoing debate. Some use taskillers and some don't. I do because I'm on the side of the fence that likes the control over killing selected apps or all apps not on my protected list. As far as battery drain most taskillers have an option to kill itself after you enitiate a kill order. I like, some rely on built in memmory management. Weather its true or not I can feel the difference when I load up large apps like gun bros or netflix without killing background apps.
Setting up an auto kill is what drains the most battery in my opinion. Keep it simple, add system processes to the protected list and have it kill itself after use.
I know on CM7 long pressing the back button kills the app altogether. Not to sure about other ROMS.
I have Xperia Neo, its very nice mobile phone. But i have a problem, there is a lot of apps open in background. I wanna close them (cuz while i playing a game sometimes the game was stopped.). How can i do?
Advanced Task Killer should be able to help you out
thanks ..very helpful for me too
Advance task mangers are good however they are temporary as most apps that run in the background will start back up again. I found setting it on auto kill using one of aggressive setting the best option to use with the least amount of time between kills. Dont use the most aggressive option as that kills system also.
I generally just kill stuff when I find the phone to be running slowly
thank you .
i will have a try.
juice defende is better then task killers
Hi.
I know the android memory management is quite good, but is there an option for how many tasks are kept in the background before killed even if there is enough RAM?
Is this possible by not using the setting in the developer options but some init.rc tweak?
Thanks in Advance
I'm using Greenify it's hibernates all user apps when your screen goes off
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Setting background process to 4 is more effective and better than using Greenify... You don't have to sacrifice 3mb ram and greenify apps...
Is there a way to set the max. to 4 using a script?
When the tablet is rebootet the function is reset to android default number of background processes.