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Hi There!
Can this phone run Froyo nicely? I am considering this phone and want to make sure it's a good phone and that it will upgrade nicely too ?
Thanks very much.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678513
networkn said:
Hi There!
Can this phone run Froyo nicely? I am considering this phone and want to make sure it's a good phone and that it will upgrade nicely too ?
Thanks very much.
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Sorry Froyo is not coming anytime soon from sony, we don't even have 2.1. From what people are saying we might see froyo in first quarter of 2011; if you can wait that long.
Not even with customized ROM's?
networkn said:
Not even with customized ROM's?
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Not at the moment. Work is still being done on cracking the bootloader to load customised ROMs.
Hi all
i just rooted my X10a using that 1click root thing, it said it was rooted ect
now what can i do with a "rooted" phone? i hear lots about it, and the fact i can un-root it made me wanna try
what can i do now?
ps, i dont understand all this RB12490 ( or what ever it is ) stuff, somenoe?
thanks!!
after rooting you can use utilities that require root, for example:
adfree
busybox
quicksshd
setcpu
titanium backup
search forums for further info.
oh so it gives me things that you can do without rooting it?
ie: overclocking phones cpu?
thanks
lol opps, i un-installed moxier mail, forgot to back it up and now i cant get it again?
i think i "rooted'" my phones warranty and all
for overclocking custom kernel is needed AFAIK.
SetCPU can enable dynamic underclock to reduce battery usage.
i want my moxier mail back now
i asssume theres no way to get it back now i un-installed it?
aussiesausage said:
lol opps, i un-installed moxier mail, forgot to back it up and now i cant get it again?
i think i "rooted'" my phones warranty and all
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if SE releases new firmware you will have this app again for sure in the update package
well im from australia and they announced the 2.1 release date for the end of this month
for some reason my phone feels faster when its rooted, is it? or is it just me?
try to read more before asking any questions.
this way you will be a free man, independent from anybodys will to answer questions.
also assume that every your question was answered on the internet at least 5 times
good luck!
devein said:
search forums for further info.
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+1.
[Q] Phone rooted, now what?
Okay, I've rooted - now what?
aussiesausage said:
Hi all
i just rooted my X10a using that 1click root thing, it said it was rooted ect
now what can i do with a "rooted" phone? i hear lots about it, and the fact i can un-root it made me wanna try
what can i do now?
ps, i dont understand all this RB12490 ( or what ever it is ) stuff, somenoe?
thanks!!
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OK ... here's what you do now.
Come to these forums as many times a day as your life allows and post the following type of message:
Where's 2.1?
What are the Devs doing?
Is 2.1 coming soon?
Is 2.1 coming this week?
The X10 is crap without 2.1.
Are the Devs still around??????
I hate my X10!!!!
1.6 sucks.
So what's happening with 2.1?
I hate my X10.
I sold my X10.
After you post a message based on that last subject line you won't wonder what to do you your rooted X10 since you'll no longer have one
Anyhow ... this seems to be what most X10 owners do with a rooted X10.
aussiesausage said:
Hi all
i just rooted my X10a using that 1click root thing, it said it was rooted ect
now what can i do with a "rooted" phone? i hear lots about it, and the fact i can un-root it made me wanna try
what can i do now?
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stick it in the bathroom and flush the toilet or just search the forum
I´m very confused with the number of options in ROMs for Xperia X10. With the amazing jog of so many developers, i just can't choose a ROM for me.
So i´m asking. Which is the best ROM (speed, stability and feature wise) for people who don't want to loose features of the phone (especially camcorder, camera and wifi)?
Thnks!
If you wan HD camcorder, you can only stay at stock rom.
I am using go3asy's 2.1 rom honeycomb look. It everything work n smoother than stock rom.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
Gotta agree with that . Here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949457
I'm using the latest stock ROM with all good tweaks to make it very fast and responsive.
Things from my sig + max events per second=26 thing and heapsize=26m
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I hd install Eminence's ROM once, and I satisfy with it. But after latest update from SEUS, my x10i is not able to use this ROM anymore. It just stuck on boot animation. Any idea how to fix this?
But I will try to install honeycom one. It seem better.Still downloading. Thanks for the information. Thanks...
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I hd install Eminence's ROM once, and I satisfy with it. But after latest update from SEUS, my x10i is not able to use this ROM anymore. It just stuck on boot animation. Any idea how to fix this?
But I will try to install honeycom one. It seem better.Still downloading. Thanks for the information. Thanks...
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Use flashtool.
Well this one looks ok too Blue Sparks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892688
TriP's MIUI
LoL Didn't you read? "Which is the best ROM (speed, stability and feature wise) for people who don't want to loose features of the phone (especially camcorder, camera and wifi)?"
teddymild said:
I am using go3asy's 2.1 rom honeycomb look. It everything work n smoother than stock rom.
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This rom is good,but shangmail can not run smoothly using this rom.
GN Multimedia - X10i
gohwh1 said:
If you wan HD camcorder, you can only stay at stock rom.
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I hope they can come up with a fix for this soon
It is the only reason why I'm still with stock rom.
stock rom maybe . eclair 2.1
Look like i´ll be on stock for a while.
Let's hope developers solve the problem with the camcorder on 2.2 and 2.3 soon. Maybe Arc shed a light on the cause of this.
well
the last i was on eclair
i was usin this kx rom
its nice n fast n everythin works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913610
Best ROM for those who don't want to lose functionality? Stick to the official SE firmware [including official updates].
Sony don't give a crap if we run 2.2, 2.3, or even 2.4/3.0 on it - and it's because of the simple fact that it's just a firmware. That's all what it really is. Only 'firmware' and *not* a ROM.
It's the consequence of SE's DRM stronghold on the encrypted bootloader, signed with a 1024 bit RSA key. We're looking at years of bruteforcing to be able to break in, which frankly neither is feasible nor worth the while.
And that is why nobody from SE cared enough to even bat an eyelid when one XDA user mailed their tech support representative complete with screenshots of his X10 running the 2.2.1 firmware, a link to a thread from XDA alongwith some XDA Dev namedropping. It's easy to realize that if this was a significant development, SE would've been all over our [XDA's] ass a long long time ago.
As much as I hate it, I think it's about time we came to terms with the reality. A fully functioning port is not going to happen. Atleast not until someone manages to dethrone the bootloader from it's current position
And no, it's not because the Dev's here don't have the technical know how required to do so, but rather it's because SE have ensured it wouldn't be worth anybody's while attempting a go at it.
Sad but true.
javagreen said:
Best ROM for those who don't want to lose functionality? Stick to the official SE firmware [including official updates].
Sony don't give a crap if we run 2.2, 2.3, or even 2.4/3.0 on it - and it's because of the simple fact that it's just a firmware. That's all what it really is. Only 'firmware' and *not* a ROM.
It's the consequence of SE's DRM stronghold on the encrypted bootloader, signed with a 1024 bit RSA key. We're looking at years of bruteforcing to be able to break in, which frankly neither is feasible nor worth the while.
And that is why nobody from SE cared enough to even bat an eyelid when one XDA user mailed their tech support representative complete with screenshots of his X10 running the 2.2.1 firmware, a link to a thread from XDA alongwith some XDA Dev namedropping. It's easy to realize that if this was a significant development, SE would've been all over our [XDA's] ass a long long time ago.
As much as I hate it, I think it's about time we came to terms with the reality. A fully functioning port is not going to happen. Atleast not until someone manages to dethrone the bootloader from it's current position
And no, it's not because the Dev's here don't have the technical know how required to do so, but rather it's because SE have ensured it wouldn't be worth anybody's while attempting a go at it.
Sad but true.
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It's indeed sad & that's going to be the case with arc as well I suppose , right? Sorry I got of topic, I recommend KX10 & Blue Sparks
+1 for kxhawkins rom I think the linked worked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913610
FreeX10 is awesome too but I need the functionality.
I am currently perfectly fine with my deivce right now. Only thing i want is google voice video chat which is in 2.3.4 update i believe and hdmi mirroring which should be possible now that the bootloader is unlocked.
Anyone know around what date the officak release should be? It should soon right?
No word on official release... people think it's in the next few weeks but it's just speculation given the quality of the builds seen so far.
Personally, I'd say wait. The 2.34 version everyone is flashing right now is more for play than use at the moment. Wait at least until some more complete/stable roms have been built or the various issues people have been having with the leaked version have been fixed.
I agree with mysticdrew. I have decided to wait for a week or two till we get the official update to 2.3.4. I will unlock only once CM is available for atrix.
geekalok said:
I agree with mysticdrew. I have decided to wait for a week or two till we get the official update to 2.3.4. I will unlock only once CM is available for atrix.
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+1. I have no problem waiting a month or more for an official 2.3 update .
In kenneth's unlock guide there's 24 steps to unlock. With the official 2.3.4 you start at step 13, which is where the steps are easier/safer.
I also am waiting on something more stable. But I'm still refreshing the forums every few hours and getting my reading in! Best advise I can give if you are unsure is read read read before you attempt.
I unlocked mine and it was relatively simple to do. The only problem I had was the /data wipe.
gnahc79 said:
+1. I have no problem waiting a month or more for an official 2.3 update .
In kenneth's unlock guide there's 24 steps to unlock. With the official 2.3.4 you start at step 13, which is where the steps are easier/safer.
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Are you for serious? I mean its a developer community, and the gingerbread rom out there is not really a test Rom, its Motorola release leak. I think its worth installing it. And its very simple! And totally safe.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
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Are you for serious? I mean its a developer community, and the gingerbread rom out there is not really a test Rom, its Motorola release leak. I think its worth installing it. And its very simple! And totally safe.
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yes I'm serious. The leaked build is not specifically for US AT&T
The leaked build from Hong Kong / Taiwan was probably not built for a device that is exactly like ours. Test phones can have different hardware. Don't expect everything to work, it's super-duper beta and since we've all only been unlocked 24hrs no one really knows how usable it is! Flash at your own risk... (PS you can 'Skip' Motoblur just by hitting 'Menu' during setup. It won't connect anyway...)
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Why mess with all of this when within a month or so we can get a fully supported OTA update? The current formal Atrix build is just fine. Unless you're a dev trying to build ROMs or something, I don't see a huge benefit other than just saying you have the latest and greatest. There's multiple posts in the Atrix section with "I applied 2.3.4 and X does not work properly", not worth it IMO when there is no significant benefit.
ceo.mtcl said:
Are you for serious? I mean its a developer community, and the gingerbread rom out there is not really a test Rom, its Motorola release leak. I think its worth installing it. And its very simple! And totally safe.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
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The unlock is relatively simple yes, but the 2.34 leak isn't issue less for sure - there are resolution issues, home button issues, data speed issues, network issues, lots of small issues people have been having (all probably fixable for sure, but definitely a n00bie would be overwhelmed).
point of having unlocked bootloader is to have custom and 3rd party solutions.
what point is it to wait for the official release when you can still enjoy the hot cake now and switch to official release when it is out?
in that case you do not need the unlocked bootloader in the 1st place.
madnav said:
point of having unlocked bootloader is to have custom and 3rd party solutions.
what point is it to wait for the official release when you can still enjoy the hot cake now and switch to official release when it is out?
in that case you do not need the unlocked bootloader in the 1st place.
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True, access to custom and 3rd party solutions, but that has no bearing on the decision to wait until there's a stable solution unofficial or official. There's a stability threshold everyone has and for some obviously it's met and for others it hasn't.
I'm going to wait for there to be a stable rom, or at least for the official gingerbread release.
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I'm going to wait for there to be a stable rom, or at least for the official gingerbread release.
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I agree. I see no problem with unlocking now, but since there isn't much to do with it right now I just won't do it. I'm not interested in some buggy Taiwan or whatever build of the GB update...
Maybe I'm missing something, but is there anything else we can do with the unlocked phone RIGHT NOW?
Not to be a **** but the whole point of XDA is to try things before they are meant to be tried and trying things that shouldnt be tried. Im running 2.3.4 and it is completely stable, no freezes or reboots. Only thing that does not work is motoBlur and Fingerprint reader. This build is completely safe if you read the directions and then read them again.
IMO no. You can apply barely tested stuff, shake your fist in anger when multiple core functions break, and then flash back to stock w/ root . If you're a dev, then yes all of this 2.3.4/unlock stuff is like Christmas right now.
Like I said, many people have tried 2.3.4 and its STABLE.
You can also use cwm recovery now without having to plug your AC charger in. For me, that in itself is worth unlocking the bootloader over.
Sent from my Gingerblurred Atrix
- resolution problem
- exchange does not work
- marketplace may not work
- webtop does not work out of the box, need to re-enable with additional steps
- fingerprint reader does not work
- home button does not work
- cardock may not work
- stock ringtones are missing
- motoblur does not work
All this just to get a HKTW 2.3.4 a few weeks in advance??
the point of XDA is NOT for a general user to try out stuff before devs have had a chance to try it out for less than 24 hrs.
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Like I said, many people have tried 2.3.4 and its STABLE.
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From the HKTW thread:
"WARNING
The leaked build from Hong Kong / Taiwan was probably not built for a device that is exactly like ours. Test phones can have different hardware. Don't expect everything to work, it's super-duper beta and since we've all only been unlocked 24hrs no one really knows how usable it is! Flash at your own risk... (PS you can 'Skip' Motoblur just by hitting 'Menu' during setup. It won't connect anyway...)"
This doesn't assure people it's stable, and if it were perfectly stable, there wouldn't be multiple threads about fixing some of the issues from flashing this. It's a beta, and not even for the US phones. Don't be so naive as to think you know everything about this build, and also don't be so pigheaded as to think you know better than the devs who give us this stuff, and posted the aforementioned warning. Anything which is alpha or beta is not stable, or it would be live and in all our phones right now from Moto/AT&T. If people don't want to flash it, that's up to them!
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From the HKTW thread:
"WARNING
The leaked build from Hong Kong / Taiwan was probably not built for a device that is exactly like ours. Test phones can have different hardware. Don't expect everything to work, it's super-duper beta and since we've all only been unlocked 24hrs no one really knows how usable it is! Flash at your own risk... (PS you can 'Skip' Motoblur just by hitting 'Menu' during setup. It won't connect anyway...)"
This doesn't assure people it's stable, and if it were perfectly stable, there wouldn't be multiple threads about fixing some of the issues from flashing this. It's a beta, and not even for the US phones. Don't be so naive as to think you know everything about this build, and also don't be so pigheaded as to think you know better than the devs who give us this stuff, and posted the aforementioned warning. Anything which is alpha or beta is not stable, or it would be live and in all our phones right now from Moto/AT&T. If people don't want to flash it, that's up to them!
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+1 cant agree any more with that!
I have just ordered my first smartphone, a new unlocked AT&T Motorola Atrix 4G MB860 from Ebay to be used on Cincinnati Bells network. It has Android 2.2 installed on it now. I have found all kinds of information about updating to Gingerbread directly from the phone when I first use it, but thats where i get lost.
My Questions:
1. Given the fact there is no data saved to get lost should I update it to ICS or JB now?
2. Is there a need to upgrade past Gingerbread?
3. To do the upgrade I have read about com10 and all kinds of ROMs, EXACTLY what do I need to upload (given no mods are on the phone).
4. Is there a post that is pretty much "upgrading for dummys"?
I figured if i need to upgrade now is the time so I dont get used to one OS and then have to relearn another because this one stops being supported (like the Iphone 3G).
Given that this is your first smartphone, it would probably be best that you just use it as is for a while and NOT TOUCH ANYTHING until you get VERY familiar with all the options and terminology. Who knows, you might just get to like it the way it is. Not sure why you want to tamper with it already but it sounds like you are sure to be on your way to disaster with your current level of experience.
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Given that this is your first smartphone, it would probably be best that you just use it as is for a while and NOT TOUCH ANYTHING until you get VERY familiar with all the options and terminology. Who knows, you might just get to like it the way it is. Not sure why you want to tamper with it already but it sounds like you are sure to be on your way to disaster with your current level of experience.
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Its not that I want to tamper with it (infact i would rather not). Thats why I was asking the questions in advance so I dont find myself with an overpriced Frisbee. I have had the "old guy" flip phones for years but its time to get into the21st century.
I was just given an Iphone 3g locked to AT&T. I unlocked and jailbroke it but soon found that all the apps I wanted were out for ios5 not for mine. I bought an unlocked Samsing Focus S windows 7.5 phone on Ebay and LOVED, LOVED, LOVED it. With Cincinnati Bell though, half of the features wouldnt work. After talking to everyone but Bill Gates himself, I contacted the seller and they have offered me this Atrix 4G in exchange. I just Want to make sure Im not getting myself back into the 3G scenario again where nothing will download to it due to having an outdated OS.
It all depends on exactly what apps you want/need. Most apps should work on older phones too (no matter what OS or brand), I'm kinda starting to suspect you are mostly after very new stuff. It is true that Froyo is now considered outdated (heck, even Gingerbread is just barely hanging in there), and I suppose you can try updating through "official channels" (either OTA or a downloadable official firmware), I would just suggest you don't go the modding route until you're familiar with the territory. I'm not saying it's difficult or complicated, I'm just saying you have to know it.
Also, I'm not sure why you call this "your first smartphone" when it's quite clear that you've had plenty others...
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Its not that I want to tamper with it (infact i would rather not). Thats why I was asking the questions in advance so I dont find myself with an overpriced Frisbee. I have had the "old guy" flip phones for years but its time to get into the21st century.
I was just given an Iphone 3g locked to AT&T. I unlocked and jailbroke it but soon found that all the apps I wanted were out for ios5 not for mine. I bought an unlocked Samsing Focus S windows 7.5 phone on Ebay and LOVED, LOVED, LOVED it. With Cincinnati Bell though, half of the features wouldnt work. After talking to everyone but Bill Gates himself, I contacted the seller and they have offered me this Atrix 4G in exchange. I just Want to make sure Im not getting myself back into the 3G scenario again where nothing will download to it due to having an outdated OS.
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That's less of an Android problem because of the fragmentation (probably the only good thing about fragmentation). I think around 40% of all Android phones are still on gingerbread, so developers aren't about to abandon all those users for their apps. The majority of apps work with gingerbread and you won't have a problem. The only app I have that is only for 4.0+ is Nova Launcher which can easily be replaced by one of the many other launchers that are compatible with GB.
Definitely just stay on GB for a while and use it however you want. If you start running into app compatibility for some reason, then you can look into roms. But I highly doubt that will be the reason you want a 4.0+ rom. After a full year on gingerbread I finally tried a custom rom. There is no rush at all to start changing things because it can brick your device really easily. Stay with stock everything and only think about messing with more advanced things once you actually require it.
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Definitely just stay on GB for a while and use it however you want.
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He said he's on 2.2 (Froyo) now, not GB.
OP, if I were you I'd probably go ahead and upgrade it to GB by the official OTA update process and try it out for a while till you get more familiar with it as ravilov mentioned. But that's just my opinion.
Thank you folks. Now I have a better understanding of the support of android. I think Ill do the GB
The apps. in question..... Weather, facebook, calendar ...... As far as the first smart phone.... I have had smart phone service since tuesday of last week and have not been able to use either of the devices. I couldnt even send or receive pics on the windows phone. So I was told this would work with my network. this will be the first smart phone useable out of 3 in the last week.
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It all depends on exactly what apps you want/need. Most apps should work on older phones too (no matter what OS or brand), I'm kinda starting to suspect you are mostly after very new stuff. It is true that Froyo is now considered outdated (heck, even Gingerbread is just barely hanging in there), and I suppose you can try updating through "official channels" (either OTA or a downloadable official firmware), I would just suggest you don't go the modding route until you're familiar with the territory. I'm not saying it's difficult or complicated, I'm just saying you have to know it.
Also, I'm not sure why you call this "your first smartphone" when it's quite clear that you've had plenty others...
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Doesn't the newest official AT&T firmware overwrite your bootloader making it impossible to tamper with it later on? Correct me if I'm wrong, since I might be mistaken. (I unlocked it the second I got my phone and haven't looked twice at any official firmware since then)
@ OP: I don't know you, so I don't know how computer literate you might be, but if you feel like up to the task, I would recommend unlocking the bootloader AND then staying on the official firmware (through the use of fruitcakes or Blur based ROMs), so you can get used to everything with as few bugs/quirks as possible. If you later decide to upgrade to more up to date firmware, then you'll have that option as well.
IF you're not very good with computers and other gadgets, then I would suggest you just leave it be and stay on the official firmware. But to make this choice, you need to be honest with yourself as to whether you're capable or not of doing it. How to use custom software on your phone isn't some well guarded secret or anything particularly complicated, it just requires for the user to do A LOT of reading so they understand exactly what they're doing, otherwise it's a recipe for disaster.
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Doesn't the newest official AT&T firmware overwrite your bootloader making it impossible to tamper with it later on? Correct me if I'm wrong, since I might be mistaken. (I unlocked it the second I got my phone and haven't looked twice at any official firmware since then)
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It is uncertain really. There are some indications that the bootloader in .145 is not really changed compared to the .141, but I guess the safest thing for the OP to do is to update to .141 if possible. I've also never had anything to do with official updates so I don't really know how it goes. This phone got rooted pretty much as soon as I got it and unlocked and flashed only days later.
@OP,
You certainly have a very strange and uncommon definition of "my first smartphone". Like, this Atrix that I'm holding right now is totally my first smartphone in the last hour... :angel:
BTW, a smartphone is not defined by "a phone with the smartphone service", in fact in most countries (mine included) such a concept doesn't even exist.
Also, all of the apps you mentioned should work perfectly on Froyo or at least on Gingerbread.