720p video consumes too much - Vibrant Themes and Apps

Recording in 720p eats up way too much memory. I believe it has to do with its codec (3gp). My sony camcorder can record in 1080p and eat up way less memory than my vibrant. Is there any app that will give more video codec features we can choose from?

Not sure what you mean. I recorded in 1080p at the Falcon's game last Sunday and had well over an hour worth of time to record. Not bad for a phone IMHO.

I meant that the vibrant phone camcorder records in 720p and eats up too much memory than a regular hd home camcorder would. A 10 minute video recorded from the vibrant takes up more than 700mb while a 1080p video recorded from my sony home camcorder takes up less than half of that. I think it has to do with the video format of the vibrant. I wonder if there is an app that can allow us to choose another video format other than 3gp to record with.

you cannot change the codec, and just so you know that 3gpp is just the container that holds the video but the video can be MGEP-4(XVID/DVIX) or H264 or many others. But our phones only record in H264 video and AAC audio and contain it in the 3GPP file. What I do is send my videos to youtube immediately so that they are cleared off my phone and youtube will convert them to a better H264 format and the MP4 container. So as of now you cannot change the quality of the camcorder and make it record a lesser video file.

Guess you just have to keep in mind that its a phone first, camcorder second. That's why you own a camcorder in the first place. You wouldn't expect your camcorder to get better calls than your phone would you?

aloneinshadow said:
Guess you just have to keep in mind that its a phone first, camcorder second. That's why you own a camcorder in the first place. You wouldn't expect your camcorder to get better calls than your phone would you?
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I do agree that it is a phone first, but in todays world of digital everything it is nice to shed as much as you can and have an all in one device. I for one don't want to carry around a digital camera, camcorder and phone, so I picked the one that did the best of all three.
As for running out of memory there is a 32gig SD card option until someone can hack the codec to allow tweaking of the compression ratio, then again the CPU in the phone might not be able to keep up with the video being taken if it has to work to hard to compress the video more.

Not to hard to copy the files off the phone to your PC and covert away.

I believe I read that froyo firmwares record more efficiently in the MP4 container

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I believe I read that froyo firmwares record more efficiently in the MP4 container
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that doesn't really make any sense. the video doesn't get put into a final true container until its done recording, its just a temp file while its doing it, and video containers dont affect quality, just playback

I know what you mean, but I believe they improved the quality as well as changing the container.

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Encoding MKV Files for Playback

Hello Everyone,
After much testing/researching, I have finally found the best solution to encode .MKV files to .MP4 for flawless playback on the HD2 using MediaCoder. I have tried many of the other methods and settings provided by others on this forum and many of them were good, but simply took too long or sometimes caused choppy playback on the HD2.
UPDATE 9/6/10
Thanks to everyone who has helped out with new settings and testing out encoding methods in this thread and the entire forum. I have recently had major issues with encoding certain videos in H.264 resulting in audio sync issues, frames, and artifacts. Doing some more testing and help from forum members, I will be updating the settings to what I have been using recently and having absolutely no issues with even on 1080P files. Just remember to use Windows Media Player, it provides the best playback for these encodes!
MediaCoder Settings:
Format: H.264 ( If Possible use CUDA Encoder, much faster!)
Mode: Average bitrate @ 1500Kbps
Audio encoder: FAAC
Audio Format: LC-AAC
Audio container: AAC
Audio mode: Average bitrate @128Kbps
Container: MP4
Resize: 800x480
Effects: Filter by Encoder
Aspect ratio: Keep Display AR
With these settings I have tested 12 different files ranging from 500MB-1.8GB in size(720p quality) and the largest took 34 minutes on my dual core CPU (intel i5). First tried playing the files with HTC Album player and CorePlayer and the results weren't very good and they included a lot of choppiness. After reading some others success with WMP, I decided to give it a shot and I was pleasantly surprised to find that it played the .MP4 files beautifully and without a single hiccup.
Some of you may already have solutions for encoding videos for playback on the HD2, but I have found these settings to be perfect for anyone who wants to encode HD .MKV files.
I want to thank everyone who has contributed to finding the best method of converting/encoding files for playback, but I can honestly say these settings will give you amazing quality and smooth playback, even in the most intense action scenes. Give it a try!
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Very nice find!
Wow, tried many of different settings and this one has worked the best for me so far! Sticky this!
Great find. This is now stuck
Great find. One question though, I have been using XenonMKV to package my MKV files to MP4 and it never takes longer than 10 minutes to do and the videos work flawlessly on my XBOX 360. Haven't tried it on an HD2 since I haven't got one yet. Do the MKV files have to be re-encoded to work on the HD2 or can they simply be repackaged into an MP4 as XenonMKV does?
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Great find. One question though, I have been using XenonMKV to package my MKV files to MP4 and it never takes longer than 10 minutes to do and the videos work flawlessly on my XBOX 360. Haven't tried it on an HD2 since I haven't got one yet. Do the MKV files have to be re-encoded to work on the HD2 or can they simply be repackaged into an MP4 as XenonMKV does?
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one reason ud wana change them up is to lower the resolution and bitrate since you dont need it so high on the smaller screen and it uses less battery
I will try it but I don't even convert mkv I just hit up coreplayer but I will keep this in mind
i dont have the option for 800x450 does that just depend on the original aspect of the video? its lost so should be 16x9
domineus said:
I will try it but I don't even convert mkv I just hit up coreplayer but I will keep this in mind
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same here I dont see the use of it (at least for me)
lbhocky19 said:
i dont have the option for 800x450 does that just depend on the original aspect of the video? its lost so should be 16x9
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You probably meant to say "16:9" which is the aspect ratio. Also, check for 800x400, it should be there.
Depending on your encoder, you might want to see about removing the black bars that are so prevalent on TV shows crammed onto DVDs. The black bars not only take up precious screen space, but they cause the decoder to render them, which is CPU-intensive. Also they cost you in battery life since black is the most expensive color rendering for our screens.
I've tried these settings 3 times on .avi and .mkv amd I either get an unreadable file or sound but no video. the HD2 WILL NOT play ANy of my .avi files and it lso doesn't play some .mp4.
I have tried .mkv files and yes, some of them fail when I try to play them. I kept the same settings from the first post and only changed: Aspect Ratio = Keep Pixel AR.
Which MediaCoder version do you use?
Thank you,
Mike
medrison said:
Which MediaCoder version do you use?
Thank you,
Mike
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I use MediaCoder 0.7.3.4625 x64. For some of you having trouble playing .MP4 files, what player are you using to open them with? I have found WMP to give me no trouble playing any .MP4 file I threw at it.
htpw16 said:
Great find. One question though, I have been using XenonMKV to package my MKV files to MP4 and it never takes longer than 10 minutes to do and the videos work flawlessly on my XBOX 360. Haven't tried it on an HD2 since I haven't got one yet. Do the MKV files have to be re-encoded to work on the HD2 or can they simply be repackaged into an MP4 as XenonMKV does?
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Re-encoding the MKV files seems to be the better choice for size and smoothness of playback. At the native bitrate of 3000+Kbps playback is choppy for me even when using WMP. Not only will lowering the bitrate provide smoother playback, but it will lower the file size. The videos I encode are around 500MB average, and when encoding is finished they are no larger than 250MB, which helps a lot since I only have a 16GB memory card.
Using MediaCoder 0.7.3.4625 x64. On my PC I have no problems playing the .MP4. The only issue I get is when I transfer the file to the phone, and try playing it on the phone. I hear audio but no video, but after changing the Aspect Ratio that seem to have fixed my issue.
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Using MediaCoder 0.7.3.4625 x64. On my PC I have no problems playing the .MP4. The only issue I get is when I transfer the file to the phone, and try playing it on the phone. I hear audio but no video, but after changing the Aspect Ratio that seem to have fixed my issue.
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Glad to hear things are working fine for you. If you don't mind me asking, how's the playback, and what player are you using?
Gentlemen, let me introduce to you AnyVideoConverter - this little baby is free and does the job just fine!
Tried it out w/ some anime. Select file, and hit convert to mp4 - perfect sync!
http://www.any-video-converter.com/products/for_video_free/
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Re-encoding the MKV files seems to be the better choice for size and smoothness of playback. At the native bitrate of 3000+Kbps playback is choppy for me even when using WMP. Not only will lowering the bitrate provide smoother playback, but it will lower the file size. The videos I encode are around 500MB average, and when encoding is finished they are no larger than 250MB, which helps a lot since I only have a 16GB memory card.
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Wait....250MB...I end up with 1Gb/movie with your settings.
May I ask if you are sure you wanted 800/450 px and not 800/480?
Thank you,
Mike

[Q] 720P playback on G Tablet - Is there a fix to make these videos play correctly?

I just picked up my gtablet yesterday and have been spending my time installing tnt lite and installing several apps. I bought it because when I go on trips I wanted something that could browse the net, and play videos. I installed RockPlayer and put a 720p mkv file onto the machine, however playback is very choppy and its almost like the device cannot handle it. I know that several people have gotten 1080p to work good, and I am wondering if there is a setting that needs to be enabled to make 720p work better? I did some digging and saw that someone said to edit a line in the build.prop file (set the media.stagefright.enable from true to false), but I cannot edit my build.prop file. And I am not entirely sure that this will fix the problem. Are 720p videos playable on this machine?
What profile did you render the movies in? Try changing the MKV extension to AVI... Sometimes some renderers treat containers differently even though they are using the same codecs.
just tried to rename the extension from .mkv to .avi and still same choppiness and eventually the videos stops playing all together. I am not sure what rendering is, but the file is encoded AAC 2.0 H264
h264 is not the issue, it's what profile its encoded in
I have this in my FAQ section (in my sig). h264 is supported, but the Tegra 2 cannot handle h264 encoded in high profile. It can handle main profile.
This is confusing to people. So, what I would recommend is to download the excellent "mediainfo" tool (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) and it will show you how your videos are encoded.
As for container support, I think MP4 plays a little better than MKV, but Rockplayer (in the Market) seems to be able to handle MKV and using hardware acceleration. Again, as long as it's h264 main profile.
This is not just an issue with the GTab - all the Tegra 2 devices will have this issue as its a limitation of the chipset, or so I've read. Vega, Folio, even the mysterious Adam will probably have this same limitation.
Reference on h264 and main / high profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
Maximus1000 said:
Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Yeah, that's the tricky part. I haven't been able to figure that out yet, although granted I haven't put much time into it. I think these "profiles" depend on how you encode and which tool you use.
If you try the Tron Legacy trailers, they are 1080p but main profile. A good example of how nice videos can look on it, when encoded the right way.
I have to play around more with something like ffmpeg to see if I can pin this down. Another reason for transcoding is to keep the sizes down, since we have the 4GB FAT32 file size limitation to deal with. Yuk.
I've incoded a 1080p high profile to main. sound was in and out then tryed a few things and lost sound. Video played great anyways.
I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
japhule said:
I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
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Could be a lower screen resolution that full 720p (not all 720p's are alike).
I also read today that Tegra 2 720p should work in high profile, but 1080p definitely does not. But, Android itself might be limiting even 720p, so it's a crap shoot.
Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Sprdtyf350 said:
Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
Ok, makes sense. I do the same thing using upnplay and my server. Thought you were wanting them on the tablet.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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A two hour 720p movie runs ~4GB, so it's close to the limit in FAT32. And you could easily go over the limit when encoding, which would require you to break the file up. Annoying.
The problem here is that none of the vendors want to agree on a replacement file system for portable devices (wow, no surprise there). MS wants exFAT, the open source community would prefer EXT3/4, and I assume Apple would prefer HFS+.
Sprdtyf350 said:
Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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Okay I'm doing the Madagascar penguin "you didn't see anything gesture" now. LOL.
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japhule said:
It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
G Tab supports H.264 1080p main and high profiles
Detailed specs on what Audio and Video formats G Tablet supports are listed in the manual downloadable from the Viewsonic web site.
But in a few words - it does support up to 1080p, both baseline, high, and main profiles for H.264 with certain limitations for each, and MPEG4 simple profile.
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
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My entire system is redundant. I have my windows 7 share as well as my htpc/nas running tversity, orb and audiogalaxy (music only). Everything is shared in every way. First I try just streaming the file through Windows 7 dlna, which generally works fine. I too use Upnplay. If something doesn't work (very rare) I move to looking for it through Tversity which attempts to detect the dlna device and scale it so it works. I've never needed to use Orb on the GTab since I really got everything up and running, Orb is for when I actually am on the road and want to watch sth. from my home network. PlayOn may actually work as well - it has a free mode which allows you to use it to share files on the local network using VLC codecs.
Video Playback
I'd like to add to this conversation with, I hope, clarification of how to get higher definition video playback working on the GTab.
I've tried four video files that are 720P or 1080P. None of them works well in Movies, DoubleTwist, Rockplayer, or VitalPlayer.
G Tablet, TnT 4.21, OE kernel. Market fix. Various apps.
Videos all playing from /SDCARD
Here is some more information about those videos, using Mediainfo:
Touring Car race:
720P MPEG-4 50FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 3 ref frames)
AAC Stereo
Big Buck Bunny:
http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/
1080P OpenDML AVI 12Mbps 24FPS MPEG-4 Visual ([email protected])
AC-3 audio
Audi R8:
720P AVC Matroska 800Kbps 29.970FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 2 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Donington LG demo:
1080P BDAV M2TS 35.5Mbps 29.970fps AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC /3 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Are all of these simply too much for me to get away with playing on the GTab? I've played most, if not all of these, using a Broadcom 70012 Crystal HD decoder card on a Dell Mini 9 (Atom N270) with few problems.
Thanks for the help.

[Q] Video lag, audio out of sync?

Has anyone experienced video lagging causing audio to fall out of sync? I've been playing a small variety of .mkv files and some lag and others don't. What's most odd is that the largest file I've tried (24 minute 1.15GB, with subs) works fine, while a smaller file (24 minutes, 274MB, with subs) falls out of sync within a minute and doesn't re-sync until I move the playback head.
I've seen that other Android handsets seem to have similar issues, though the solution was usually to re-encode the file at a lower bitrate, but I don't get why a larger file would work fine while a smaller one would have sync problems?
Both video files I'm mentioning here are MPEG4 (h264), but the larger file's audio is Dolby AC3 48000Hz audio while the smaller one is AAC 44100Hz audio. I'm playing the video with mVideoPlayer and the videos are stored on the internal memory.
Edit: I've played the same file side-by-side on my laptop and phone, and it's definitely the video that's lagging.
Sorry for the bump, but I'd really like to know if anyone else is having this problem, or if there's a solution for it. No one else experiencing this problem?
I went back and tested multiple players mentioned here on the boards. I tested every player using the same file, one that lagged in the stock player and in mVideoPlayer. Here's a rundown of my results:
VPlayer: no lag, no matter what combination of settings used
RockPlayer: lags in hardware decoding mode, no lag in software decoding mode but terrible video quality (artifacting everywhere)
MoboPlayer: lags (in hardware decoding mode?), no lag in "default software decoding"
mVideoPlayer: lags
stock player: lags
I don't know what's causing the lag, but it almost seems like the players relying on hardware decoding are mainly the ones that lag. Not all files lag, just certain ones, as mentioned earlier.
usually, the reason why video & audio out of sync is the bitrate and framerate are inconsistent, in this case, i suggest u using a video tool, with the video tool, there are two solutions for you:
1. you can convert mkv to the format that compatibled well by galaxys 2
2. just import the mkv video into the tool, then adjust bitrate and framerate.
i prefer the first way, the second way you need trying many times.
for myself, i use fox real video converter, it has video audio sync technology
Thanks for the suggestions. Part of my decision to buy the GS2 was the fact that it could play large video files without conversion since I don't have the time to constantly re-encode video files. Will probably drop the $4.99 on VPlayer since it's been playing my files well. Still prefer mVideoPlayer tho.
Is there some way to check if a file has inconsistencies between bitrate and framerate as you've mentioned?
I convert MKV files to play on my PS3 with a great tool called mkv2vob. It can convert a 1.5GB movie in about 2 minutes, so I imagine it's not actually encoding at all. I'm just curious as to whether it would solve your problem, especially with it being such a quick and easy app to use.
http://www.mkv2vob.com/showthread.php?tid=1
Giving mkv2vob a shot, but it's taking far longer to convert than 2 minutes. My ~250MB file is about 25% through video transcoding, and I'm already 5 minutes in. Will report back whether it worked or not, but I don't think I'll be doing this for every video that lags.
Okey-dokey, here's what happened with the video file I converted with mkv2vob:
It output an mpg file that was unplayable or problematic in mVideoPlayer, MoboPlayer, Rock Player Lite, and lagged in VPlayer. Encoding/transcoding took about 30 minutes, and the resulting file was 337MB, up from the original's 273MB.
I guess you could say it didn't work out well. I found it interesting hat the file lagged in VPlayer where before the same file played fine before the conversion.
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Thanks for the suggestions. Part of my decision to buy the GS2 was the fact that it could play large video files without conversion since I don't have the time to constantly re-encode video files. Will probably drop the $4.99 on VPlayer since it's been playing my files well. Still prefer mVideoPlayer tho.
Is there some way to check if a file has inconsistencies between bitrate and framerate as you've mentioned?
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i don't know how to check the file, when i met this problem, i just import the file into the video tool, by viewing the preview to adjust some parameters
i have the same problem with my neverlocked and unrooted sgs2 running firmware "pda:kf3/phone:kf7": mp4 videos with x264 video codec and AAC VBR audio codec loose audio-video sync. i.e. the video lags behind and you hear people talking before they open their mouth. using xvid4psp 5.0 i experimented with the used audio codec. when recoding the videos to mp4 with x264 video codec and AAC ABR av sync is o.k.. using MP3 as audio codec also works but since AAC is the mp4 standard audio codec i'll stick to that.
and by the way: using another video player like vplayer also works with the problematic AAC VBR videos. since vplayer does software-decoding i suspect a problem with the hardware-decoding layer in combination with certain video/audio codec combinations (like x264 und AAC VBR). the benefits of hardware-accelerated-decoding are better performance and lower battery drain. therefore i want to stick with the stock-video-player (because i asume it is strictly using hardware-accelerated-decoding).

Video .mpg playback issue

Hello all,
I have copied an .mpg file (which has been created from miniDV camcorder 1440 X 1080 50i 25mbps) into microSD card.
i tried to play it with many video player with no luck.
I found one player (Rockplayer lite) which work BUT with problem.
At the horizontal pannings there is a deinterlacing issue, (horizontal lines) which is no normal. Except of this problem, the video plays smoothly.There is a setting called Software Decoding/ Hardware decoding.
If I select hardware decoding I take an waring message: The file cannot be played with system player , so the video does not even start!
Do you know if there is a video player which support Hardware decoding?
Thanks in advance
Horizontal lines in interlaced video are normal. Player has to have special deinterlacing algorithms to suppress that.
I have also tried moboplayer with no luck
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Do you know if there is a video player which support Hardware decoding?
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There is no decoding-hardware for MPEG1/2 in Exynos (nor in any other recent SoC for mobile-phones), so hardware-decoding is not possible.
You need a software-decoder that does deinterlacing as well, but I´m not sure if the CPU is powerful enough to do this in HD-resolutions, but it could be possible, as MPEG2 isn´t that demanding.
But it definitely will need a lot of energy, so to save power it is probably best to convert the video in format with hardware-support, and do the deinterlacing on your computer as well. If you just plan to watch it on your phone, you could simply throw away one field. Each field still has a high of 540 pixels, which is way over the 480 pixels of the display, so you won´t see any quality-advantage having both fields available to display on your phone, it would just burn more battery.
thanks for the reply. I have hundreds of family videos in .mpg (converted from miniDV) which play smoothly with PC or any Media Player.
So, I don't think it worth converting all these videos for watching them to phone.
P.S. I think it's time to get a new camcorder using card for instant drag 'n drop playback.
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There is no decoding-hardware for MPEG1/2 in Exynos (nor in any other recent SoC for mobile-phones), so hardware-decoding is not possible.
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Are you sure of that? You may try this: open a player (i.e. moboplayer) take a screenshot (home+power) of a video file i.e. mkv. You 'll see that the entire picture will be black (blank) because of hardware acceleration. If you select from the settings of moboplayer, software decoding and take again a screenshot , you 'll notice that the picture is OK (furthermore you'll also notice that there is a stuttering in video playback).
I believe that this is a proof that the phone can handle a hardware decoding.
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So, I don't think it worth converting all these videos for watching them to phone.
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Sure, you won´t have all your videos on the phone anyway, so you can do a conversation if you need it.
P.S. I think it's time to get a new camcorder using card for instant drag 'n drop playback.
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Well, I have to disappoint you again. New camcorders which use cards to store the videos usually use AVCHD. The media-framework currently doesn´t support the TS-container which is used (in different variants) for example on BD, for DVB-broadcasting and AVCHD as well.
There is currently no way on Android to use hardware-acceleration if the container is not supported.
So you will have to use software-decoding as well, which certainly can not be fast enough when using MPEG4-AVC in HD-resolutions.
So, there will be no instant drag-and-drop either, but at least we can hope for some firmware-update to include support for AVCHD, and of course you can always remux AVCHD-files in one of the supported containers, like mp4 or mkv, because the codecs are already supported.
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I believe that this is a proof that the phone can handle a hardware decoding.
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Of course there is a DSP in the SoC to accelerate decoding of several media-formats.
But the video-processor decodes several types of MPEG4, it certainly can´t decode MPEG1/2.
Assuming that you want enjoy MPG files on Galaxy S II, S III, S IV, you'll need to get some help from 3rd-party video player app like mxplayer or 3rd-party video converter software like Brorsoft's Video Converter to convert MPG files to H.264 or MPEG-4 encoded MP4 videos for Samsung Galaxy.
Nice find on digging out this thread. And four years later, that was a quick response. :facepalm:
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[Q] What video codecs for hardware acceleration?

I have a bunch of 1080p MKV movies that I want to convert into mobile versions for the Galaxy S II, but does anyone know what codecs I should use in order to take advantage of better battery life?
I play to shrink these down to 800x480 res. Any recommendations on bitrate too?
Also, any software or guides recommended to convert MKV to whatever codec has hardware acceleration for this phone?
All the video formats that the phone can play natively are hardware accelerated. So u can choose from MP4, avi, FLV and so on.....
I don't have much knowledge regarding the subject. But here's what I gathered:
According to Wikipedia:
The Exynos 4210, unlike Tegra 2, features support for ARM's SIMD engine (Media Processing Engine, a.k.a NEON instructions) and this may have a significant performance advantage in some cases over Tegra 2 in critical performance situations such as accelerated decoding for multiple multimedia codecs and formats (e.g., On2's VP6/7/8 or Real formats).
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Now, to take advantage of that hardware there also needs to be software that supports it.
MoboPlayer is one such software, that I know of, which has "ARM V7_NEON" playback codec and so it will fully utilize Galaxy S2 resources.
As to regards to which format you should convert...
On the MoboPlayer website is said that: "Almost all video formats(need to choose "software decoding" mode inmost cases)."
So I suppose what you need to do, is to disable "software decoding" mode and see what video formats will be supported in hardware mode.
stra said:
I don't have much knowledge regarding the subject. But here's what I gathered:
According to Wikipedia:
Now, to take advantage of that hardware there also needs to be software that supports it.
MoboPlayer is one such software, that I know of, which has "ARM V7_NEON" playback codec and so it will fully utilize Galaxy S2 resources.
As to regards to which format you should convert...
On the MoboPlayer website is said that: "Almost all video formats(need to choose "software decoding" mode inmost cases)."
So I suppose what you need to do, is to disable "software decoding" mode and see what video formats will be supported in hardware mode.
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I live in the US and we don't have the SGS2 released here yet. Can anyone who has the phone already, please test this out and let us know which codecs are hardware accelerated with MoboPlayer?
I found this guide for transcoding:
http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/211070-How-to-convert-MKV-to-AVI-or-OGM-to-AVI-using-mencoder
I don't think there is an "optimum" bitrate because that is going to vary depending on content, ie, number of fast motion scenes. Maybe encode it in VBR and set the top limit fairly high.
I know this phone will handle 1080p MKV, but some of my mkv files are like 12gb!
Hi, dont bother with anything else, handbrake should be your tool of choice. There are various templates included but I usually just set it to MP4 high profile and choose the file size I want, handbrake then does the rest and bloody well too.
Do a search on here for handbrake, there may already be threads about it, note though you should only really have to re-encode if you movies are over 4 gig (fat 32 limit) as I haven't found a file this phone wont play yet with one player or another. My players of choice are always stock first, then mobo, then DICE.
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Hi, dont bother with anything else, handbrake should be your tool of choice. There are various templates included but I usually just set it to MP4 high profile and choose the file size I want, handbrake then does the rest and bloody well too.
Do a search on here for handbrake, there may already be threads about it, note though you should only really have to re-encode if you movies are over 4 gig (fat 32 limit) as I haven't found a file this phone wont play yet with one player or another. My players of choice are always stock first, then mobo, then DICE.
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Thanks mate! Actually, I'm getting this phone for my GF for our anniversary and she's a big Harry Potter geek, she has all the books and blu-ray. I've already converted her blu-rays to MKV so she can have them all on the XPS 15, but I was hoping to convert the MKV down to a mobile friendly format.
All the HP movies add up to 80gb so I can't just copy the MKV's on there, that's why I was thinking of transcoding again.
I did find this bit of info on the Exynos:
http://www.samsung.com/us/business/oem-solutions/pdfs/Exynos_v11.pdf
1080p Video Encode/Decode
- H.264 30fps
- MPEG-4 30fps
- VC-1 30fps
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It doesn't say what container it supports but from what you say, it sounds like MP4 is the way to go. Thanks for the Handbrake tip!
one thing you should aware of is that if you intend to get the MHL>HDMI adapter at some point you may want to transcode at a resolution a little higher as it wont look great on the TV. If you are just playing on the phone then you can get them down to a fraction of the size. I found the best thing to do was to find a smaller film clip that was encoded as 1080 MKV and run off some tests, then save off the template and batch convert the log. I converted all my start trek films from 8 gig to 2 gig a piece, I left them at 1080p but set the file size down to 2 gig. The all look great on my Phone and still really good on my TV through the HDMI, best of both worlds.
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one thing you should aware of is that if you intend to get the MHL>HDMI adapter at some point you may want to transcode at a resolution a little higher as it wont look great on the TV. If you are just playing on the phone then you can get them down to a fraction of the size. I found the best thing to do was to find a smaller film clip that was encoded as 1080 MKV and run off some tests, then save off the template and batch convert the log. I converted all my start trek films from 8 gig to 2 gig a piece, I left them at 1080p but set the file size down to 2 gig. The all look great on my Phone and still really good on my TV through the HDMI, best of both worlds.
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Wow, that's crazy! I doubt my gf will ever output these to a TV. I'm still playing with Handbrake's settings.
One thing I don't get about it is that HP is 1920x800'ish, so when I set it to 800, the height drops down to 336'ish.
I think I'd rather have it fullscreen and sacrifice cropping some of the sides, so I clicked ASPECT RATIO and set the height to 480.
Handbrake set the width to 1152, so I set a crop of 176 on left and right, to try to bring the final size back down to 800x480.
But Handbrake has some weird algorithm that doesn't seem to give the desired result? It changed the output size of the video on its own after I changed the cropping values.
So, I'm not quite sure how cropping is handling in Handbrake, is it done before or after the resolution is resized?
Mobo can't use HW video decoder. SW decoder use SIMD(NEON) instructions.
Exynos HW video decoder can decode 1080p.
Try diceplayer. it use HW video decoder in Exynos ( Multi Function Codec )
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Mobo can't use HW video decoder. SW decoder use SIMD(NEON) instructions.
Exynos HW video decoder can decode 1080p.
Try diceplayer. it use HW video decoder in Exynos ( Multi Function Codec )
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Thanks but does it also depend on which container or codec the video is in?
I'm assuming that h.264 video in a MP4 container should be hardware accelerated right?
H264 in any container up to High Profile level 5.0

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