I have a bunch of 1080p MKV movies that I want to convert into mobile versions for the Galaxy S II, but does anyone know what codecs I should use in order to take advantage of better battery life?
I play to shrink these down to 800x480 res. Any recommendations on bitrate too?
Also, any software or guides recommended to convert MKV to whatever codec has hardware acceleration for this phone?
All the video formats that the phone can play natively are hardware accelerated. So u can choose from MP4, avi, FLV and so on.....
I don't have much knowledge regarding the subject. But here's what I gathered:
According to Wikipedia:
The Exynos 4210, unlike Tegra 2, features support for ARM's SIMD engine (Media Processing Engine, a.k.a NEON instructions) and this may have a significant performance advantage in some cases over Tegra 2 in critical performance situations such as accelerated decoding for multiple multimedia codecs and formats (e.g., On2's VP6/7/8 or Real formats).
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Now, to take advantage of that hardware there also needs to be software that supports it.
MoboPlayer is one such software, that I know of, which has "ARM V7_NEON" playback codec and so it will fully utilize Galaxy S2 resources.
As to regards to which format you should convert...
On the MoboPlayer website is said that: "Almost all video formats(need to choose "software decoding" mode inmost cases)."
So I suppose what you need to do, is to disable "software decoding" mode and see what video formats will be supported in hardware mode.
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I don't have much knowledge regarding the subject. But here's what I gathered:
According to Wikipedia:
Now, to take advantage of that hardware there also needs to be software that supports it.
MoboPlayer is one such software, that I know of, which has "ARM V7_NEON" playback codec and so it will fully utilize Galaxy S2 resources.
As to regards to which format you should convert...
On the MoboPlayer website is said that: "Almost all video formats(need to choose "software decoding" mode inmost cases)."
So I suppose what you need to do, is to disable "software decoding" mode and see what video formats will be supported in hardware mode.
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I live in the US and we don't have the SGS2 released here yet. Can anyone who has the phone already, please test this out and let us know which codecs are hardware accelerated with MoboPlayer?
I found this guide for transcoding:
http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/211070-How-to-convert-MKV-to-AVI-or-OGM-to-AVI-using-mencoder
I don't think there is an "optimum" bitrate because that is going to vary depending on content, ie, number of fast motion scenes. Maybe encode it in VBR and set the top limit fairly high.
I know this phone will handle 1080p MKV, but some of my mkv files are like 12gb!
Hi, dont bother with anything else, handbrake should be your tool of choice. There are various templates included but I usually just set it to MP4 high profile and choose the file size I want, handbrake then does the rest and bloody well too.
Do a search on here for handbrake, there may already be threads about it, note though you should only really have to re-encode if you movies are over 4 gig (fat 32 limit) as I haven't found a file this phone wont play yet with one player or another. My players of choice are always stock first, then mobo, then DICE.
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Hi, dont bother with anything else, handbrake should be your tool of choice. There are various templates included but I usually just set it to MP4 high profile and choose the file size I want, handbrake then does the rest and bloody well too.
Do a search on here for handbrake, there may already be threads about it, note though you should only really have to re-encode if you movies are over 4 gig (fat 32 limit) as I haven't found a file this phone wont play yet with one player or another. My players of choice are always stock first, then mobo, then DICE.
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Thanks mate! Actually, I'm getting this phone for my GF for our anniversary and she's a big Harry Potter geek, she has all the books and blu-ray. I've already converted her blu-rays to MKV so she can have them all on the XPS 15, but I was hoping to convert the MKV down to a mobile friendly format.
All the HP movies add up to 80gb so I can't just copy the MKV's on there, that's why I was thinking of transcoding again.
I did find this bit of info on the Exynos:
http://www.samsung.com/us/business/oem-solutions/pdfs/Exynos_v11.pdf
1080p Video Encode/Decode
- H.264 30fps
- MPEG-4 30fps
- VC-1 30fps
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It doesn't say what container it supports but from what you say, it sounds like MP4 is the way to go. Thanks for the Handbrake tip!
one thing you should aware of is that if you intend to get the MHL>HDMI adapter at some point you may want to transcode at a resolution a little higher as it wont look great on the TV. If you are just playing on the phone then you can get them down to a fraction of the size. I found the best thing to do was to find a smaller film clip that was encoded as 1080 MKV and run off some tests, then save off the template and batch convert the log. I converted all my start trek films from 8 gig to 2 gig a piece, I left them at 1080p but set the file size down to 2 gig. The all look great on my Phone and still really good on my TV through the HDMI, best of both worlds.
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one thing you should aware of is that if you intend to get the MHL>HDMI adapter at some point you may want to transcode at a resolution a little higher as it wont look great on the TV. If you are just playing on the phone then you can get them down to a fraction of the size. I found the best thing to do was to find a smaller film clip that was encoded as 1080 MKV and run off some tests, then save off the template and batch convert the log. I converted all my start trek films from 8 gig to 2 gig a piece, I left them at 1080p but set the file size down to 2 gig. The all look great on my Phone and still really good on my TV through the HDMI, best of both worlds.
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Wow, that's crazy! I doubt my gf will ever output these to a TV. I'm still playing with Handbrake's settings.
One thing I don't get about it is that HP is 1920x800'ish, so when I set it to 800, the height drops down to 336'ish.
I think I'd rather have it fullscreen and sacrifice cropping some of the sides, so I clicked ASPECT RATIO and set the height to 480.
Handbrake set the width to 1152, so I set a crop of 176 on left and right, to try to bring the final size back down to 800x480.
But Handbrake has some weird algorithm that doesn't seem to give the desired result? It changed the output size of the video on its own after I changed the cropping values.
So, I'm not quite sure how cropping is handling in Handbrake, is it done before or after the resolution is resized?
Mobo can't use HW video decoder. SW decoder use SIMD(NEON) instructions.
Exynos HW video decoder can decode 1080p.
Try diceplayer. it use HW video decoder in Exynos ( Multi Function Codec )
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Mobo can't use HW video decoder. SW decoder use SIMD(NEON) instructions.
Exynos HW video decoder can decode 1080p.
Try diceplayer. it use HW video decoder in Exynos ( Multi Function Codec )
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Thanks but does it also depend on which container or codec the video is in?
I'm assuming that h.264 video in a MP4 container should be hardware accelerated right?
H264 in any container up to High Profile level 5.0
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I just picked up my gtablet yesterday and have been spending my time installing tnt lite and installing several apps. I bought it because when I go on trips I wanted something that could browse the net, and play videos. I installed RockPlayer and put a 720p mkv file onto the machine, however playback is very choppy and its almost like the device cannot handle it. I know that several people have gotten 1080p to work good, and I am wondering if there is a setting that needs to be enabled to make 720p work better? I did some digging and saw that someone said to edit a line in the build.prop file (set the media.stagefright.enable from true to false), but I cannot edit my build.prop file. And I am not entirely sure that this will fix the problem. Are 720p videos playable on this machine?
What profile did you render the movies in? Try changing the MKV extension to AVI... Sometimes some renderers treat containers differently even though they are using the same codecs.
just tried to rename the extension from .mkv to .avi and still same choppiness and eventually the videos stops playing all together. I am not sure what rendering is, but the file is encoded AAC 2.0 H264
h264 is not the issue, it's what profile its encoded in
I have this in my FAQ section (in my sig). h264 is supported, but the Tegra 2 cannot handle h264 encoded in high profile. It can handle main profile.
This is confusing to people. So, what I would recommend is to download the excellent "mediainfo" tool (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) and it will show you how your videos are encoded.
As for container support, I think MP4 plays a little better than MKV, but Rockplayer (in the Market) seems to be able to handle MKV and using hardware acceleration. Again, as long as it's h264 main profile.
This is not just an issue with the GTab - all the Tegra 2 devices will have this issue as its a limitation of the chipset, or so I've read. Vega, Folio, even the mysterious Adam will probably have this same limitation.
Reference on h264 and main / high profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Yeah, that's the tricky part. I haven't been able to figure that out yet, although granted I haven't put much time into it. I think these "profiles" depend on how you encode and which tool you use.
If you try the Tron Legacy trailers, they are 1080p but main profile. A good example of how nice videos can look on it, when encoded the right way.
I have to play around more with something like ffmpeg to see if I can pin this down. Another reason for transcoding is to keep the sizes down, since we have the 4GB FAT32 file size limitation to deal with. Yuk.
I've incoded a 1080p high profile to main. sound was in and out then tryed a few things and lost sound. Video played great anyways.
I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
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I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
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Could be a lower screen resolution that full 720p (not all 720p's are alike).
I also read today that Tegra 2 720p should work in high profile, but 1080p definitely does not. But, Android itself might be limiting even 720p, so it's a crap shoot.
Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
Ok, makes sense. I do the same thing using upnplay and my server. Thought you were wanting them on the tablet.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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A two hour 720p movie runs ~4GB, so it's close to the limit in FAT32. And you could easily go over the limit when encoding, which would require you to break the file up. Annoying.
The problem here is that none of the vendors want to agree on a replacement file system for portable devices (wow, no surprise there). MS wants exFAT, the open source community would prefer EXT3/4, and I assume Apple would prefer HFS+.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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Okay I'm doing the Madagascar penguin "you didn't see anything gesture" now. LOL.
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It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
G Tab supports H.264 1080p main and high profiles
Detailed specs on what Audio and Video formats G Tablet supports are listed in the manual downloadable from the Viewsonic web site.
But in a few words - it does support up to 1080p, both baseline, high, and main profiles for H.264 with certain limitations for each, and MPEG4 simple profile.
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
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My entire system is redundant. I have my windows 7 share as well as my htpc/nas running tversity, orb and audiogalaxy (music only). Everything is shared in every way. First I try just streaming the file through Windows 7 dlna, which generally works fine. I too use Upnplay. If something doesn't work (very rare) I move to looking for it through Tversity which attempts to detect the dlna device and scale it so it works. I've never needed to use Orb on the GTab since I really got everything up and running, Orb is for when I actually am on the road and want to watch sth. from my home network. PlayOn may actually work as well - it has a free mode which allows you to use it to share files on the local network using VLC codecs.
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I'd like to add to this conversation with, I hope, clarification of how to get higher definition video playback working on the GTab.
I've tried four video files that are 720P or 1080P. None of them works well in Movies, DoubleTwist, Rockplayer, or VitalPlayer.
G Tablet, TnT 4.21, OE kernel. Market fix. Various apps.
Videos all playing from /SDCARD
Here is some more information about those videos, using Mediainfo:
Touring Car race:
720P MPEG-4 50FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 3 ref frames)
AAC Stereo
Big Buck Bunny:
http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/
1080P OpenDML AVI 12Mbps 24FPS MPEG-4 Visual ([email protected])
AC-3 audio
Audi R8:
720P AVC Matroska 800Kbps 29.970FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 2 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Donington LG demo:
1080P BDAV M2TS 35.5Mbps 29.970fps AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC /3 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Are all of these simply too much for me to get away with playing on the GTab? I've played most, if not all of these, using a Broadcom 70012 Crystal HD decoder card on a Dell Mini 9 (Atom N270) with few problems.
Thanks for the help.
Seeing some of the threads/questions re: Handbrake settings for the Nook, if you're having issues or just want something completely automated I found that DVD Catalyst ($10) has three presets for Nook Color (normal, fast, high quality) that work very well -- essentially just load the file or folder, select the preset and hit go. You can enable "advanced" user if you want to tweak the options but I've tested it with a couple of dvd video_ts folders and videos of different codecs (both audio and video) and they've all come out in good quality, and all playable without software decoding.
The file sizes that come out are comparable to the ones produced by presets for Handbrake people have produced here. a 1 hr 55 min video encoded for me at 1.39GB at the highest quality Nook setting.
I know it's not free like Handbrake but it might save someone headaches especially if they're wrestling with, for example, widescreen anamorphic content that isn't 16:9 or 4:3. Or if they just don't want to deal with tweaking presets
Does batch jobs as well, and has presets for a slew of other android devices if you're also converting for other formats/resolutions for your phone, etc.
is it faster then handbrake when converting the video?
Somewhat; I tested it last night for you with a 5-minute video. It took Handbrake 3 mins and 45 seconds to encode, it took DVD Catalyst 3 mins 15 seconds -- I can't (or haven't found) the command line interface to see what DVD Catalyst is writing out for its encode jobs, but I've tried to match w/e specs as closely as possible for the test (audio/video bitrate, etc.) How that will scale to larger files, I'm not entirely sure -- I batch encode all my videos before I go to bed at night.
I'd like to use AMD Video Converter as it uses the GPU to convert and is about twice as fast as Handbrake even on my Quad Core but I'm having trouble finding a way to manually control the settings for the output to match the NC needs. Anybody have any tips there?
Edit- Trying out MediaEspresso - Media Converter. So far, problems with output, will keep trying and report back. MediaEspresso settings not working with NC. It is a pretty nice encoder that has support for GPU encoding and is faster by about 50% than Handbrake, but not flexible enough to get the output that the NC needs. Working great to encode for my EVO however.
Just wanted to point out that with the speed of the NC (OC) and the range of codecs recognized by various players you hardly need to recode videos anymore.
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Just wanted to point out that with the speed of the NC (OC) and the range of codecs recognized by various players you hardly need to recode videos anymore.
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Have you gotten 720p videos to work smoothly with software decoding? I am only oc'ed to 1.1 Ghz and they still stutter. That's what I'm normally encoding.
*** Edit:*** Just to clarify, I mean encoding from 720p -> 480p so I can use Nook's hardware acceleration.
Both nookie froyo and the newer cm7 builds have hardware decoding
I didn't think the Nook's DSP (TI OMAP 3621) allowed native 720p decoding, only the OMAP 3630+ -- there was a thread here somewhere that said something about that. The 854x480 maximum resolution was, I thought, a hardware, not software limitation for the Nook.
From my own (meager) experience, anything higher than 480p insists on being played via software decoding regardless of what player I've used.
Some sites say 720p, others mention what you said... I just leave hd content for my bigger,hd screen
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Just wanted to point out that with the speed of the NC (OC) and the range of codecs recognized by various players you hardly need to recode videos anymore.
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I have moboplayer and CM7 OC to 1.3 and 720p video is still sub par via software decoding. Best results are still to handbrake recode to mp4 at 854x840.
The hardware decoding only handle mp4 files.
I tried this software to re-encode hd file to lower res mp4 and it does it lot faster than handbrake (on old P4 w/o gpu decoding GPU) : format factory : http://format-factory.softonic.fr/
Hello all,
I have copied an .mpg file (which has been created from miniDV camcorder 1440 X 1080 50i 25mbps) into microSD card.
i tried to play it with many video player with no luck.
I found one player (Rockplayer lite) which work BUT with problem.
At the horizontal pannings there is a deinterlacing issue, (horizontal lines) which is no normal. Except of this problem, the video plays smoothly.There is a setting called Software Decoding/ Hardware decoding.
If I select hardware decoding I take an waring message: The file cannot be played with system player , so the video does not even start!
Do you know if there is a video player which support Hardware decoding?
Thanks in advance
Horizontal lines in interlaced video are normal. Player has to have special deinterlacing algorithms to suppress that.
I have also tried moboplayer with no luck
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Do you know if there is a video player which support Hardware decoding?
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There is no decoding-hardware for MPEG1/2 in Exynos (nor in any other recent SoC for mobile-phones), so hardware-decoding is not possible.
You need a software-decoder that does deinterlacing as well, but I´m not sure if the CPU is powerful enough to do this in HD-resolutions, but it could be possible, as MPEG2 isn´t that demanding.
But it definitely will need a lot of energy, so to save power it is probably best to convert the video in format with hardware-support, and do the deinterlacing on your computer as well. If you just plan to watch it on your phone, you could simply throw away one field. Each field still has a high of 540 pixels, which is way over the 480 pixels of the display, so you won´t see any quality-advantage having both fields available to display on your phone, it would just burn more battery.
thanks for the reply. I have hundreds of family videos in .mpg (converted from miniDV) which play smoothly with PC or any Media Player.
So, I don't think it worth converting all these videos for watching them to phone.
P.S. I think it's time to get a new camcorder using card for instant drag 'n drop playback.
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There is no decoding-hardware for MPEG1/2 in Exynos (nor in any other recent SoC for mobile-phones), so hardware-decoding is not possible.
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Are you sure of that? You may try this: open a player (i.e. moboplayer) take a screenshot (home+power) of a video file i.e. mkv. You 'll see that the entire picture will be black (blank) because of hardware acceleration. If you select from the settings of moboplayer, software decoding and take again a screenshot , you 'll notice that the picture is OK (furthermore you'll also notice that there is a stuttering in video playback).
I believe that this is a proof that the phone can handle a hardware decoding.
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So, I don't think it worth converting all these videos for watching them to phone.
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Sure, you won´t have all your videos on the phone anyway, so you can do a conversation if you need it.
P.S. I think it's time to get a new camcorder using card for instant drag 'n drop playback.
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Well, I have to disappoint you again. New camcorders which use cards to store the videos usually use AVCHD. The media-framework currently doesn´t support the TS-container which is used (in different variants) for example on BD, for DVB-broadcasting and AVCHD as well.
There is currently no way on Android to use hardware-acceleration if the container is not supported.
So you will have to use software-decoding as well, which certainly can not be fast enough when using MPEG4-AVC in HD-resolutions.
So, there will be no instant drag-and-drop either, but at least we can hope for some firmware-update to include support for AVCHD, and of course you can always remux AVCHD-files in one of the supported containers, like mp4 or mkv, because the codecs are already supported.
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I believe that this is a proof that the phone can handle a hardware decoding.
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Of course there is a DSP in the SoC to accelerate decoding of several media-formats.
But the video-processor decodes several types of MPEG4, it certainly can´t decode MPEG1/2.
Assuming that you want enjoy MPG files on Galaxy S II, S III, S IV, you'll need to get some help from 3rd-party video player app like mxplayer or 3rd-party video converter software like Brorsoft's Video Converter to convert MPG files to H.264 or MPEG-4 encoded MP4 videos for Samsung Galaxy.
Nice find on digging out this thread. And four years later, that was a quick response. :facepalm:
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I've owned the phone for about a week now and I like it a lot except I'm not sure how to get videos converted on here? I had to find a trial version of AVS video converter which doesn't even support Galaxy S2, I just changed the resolution but it wasn't as good + watermark in the center.
How can I get movies on here and utilize the full screen or at least get good quality? Does Samsung Kies do this?
I know with apple products (i.e. the iPhones, iPods) it easy with itunes and I already have Videora ipod converter which is extremely easy and flawless for my iPod.
I just cant find anything that easy with the Galaxy s2? Honestly it feels like this is the deal breaker for me as much as I love this phone.
You don't have to convert anything. The phone plays divx and mkvs. Converting is in the past. At worst you need to get Dice Player from the market for mkvs with DTS. I have a huge collection and converting is history.
If you want to convert it for downsizing the file size try Handbrake. Free program and open source.
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Media Converter looks pretty cool.
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If you want to convert it for downsizing the file size try Handbrake. Free program and open source.
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Handbrake is the way to go. Free, open source, and uses one of the best H.264 encoders out there (x264).
I have attached the preset I use for encoding - note that this can probably use some tuning to be more appropriate for the GS2 as it's more capable than the Android devices I've encoded to before for media playback. It'll work just fine on the GS2, it just won't achieve quite the quality and compression ratios possible by enabling some of the more advanced H.264 features.
I disagree on conversion being unnecessary - 720p/1080p videos are pointless unless you're using the MHL adapter, they'll play but are a waste of storage space. Also, some codecs/formats may fallback on software decoding, eating your battery more than hardware-decoded formats.
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You don't have to convert anything. The phone plays divx and mkvs. Converting is in the past. At worst you need to get Dice Player from the market for mkvs with DTS. I have a huge collection and converting is history.
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and here I was searching the ends of the earth looking for a program to convert the files. I could have sworn I saw somewhere that Galaxy S2 didn't support avi's. Boy was I wrong. Thanks!
DivX or XviD are just codecs for .avi files right? Most of my movies are all avi's and I just drag and dropped one and it played great just now.
Do you all your movies play with black borders too? I know I could resize it on my Galaxy S2 but there is some loss in quality. This seems like a universal thing as my iPod Touch does the same thing. It's not a problem really it's just I'd like to be able to utilize the full screen.
Entropy512 said:
Handbrake is the way to go. Free, open source, and uses one of the best H.264 encoders out there (x264).
I have attached the preset I use for encoding - note that this can probably use some tuning to be more appropriate for the GS2 as it's more capable than the Android devices I've encoded to before for media playback. It'll work just fine on the GS2, it just won't achieve quite the quality and compression ratios possible by enabling some of the more advanced H.264 features.
I disagree on conversion being unnecessary - 720p/1080p videos are pointless unless you're using the MHL adapter, they'll play but are a waste of storage space. Also, some codecs/formats may fallback on software decoding, eating your battery more than hardware-decoded formats.
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I've heard of Handbrake, basically it's if I have full DVD's right? And you can't see true 720p or 1080p videos on this phone right? Only on a hdtv through the MHL adapter?
just-another said:
Do you all your movies play with black borders too? I know I could resize it on my Galaxy S2 but there is some loss in quality. This seems like a universal thing as my iPod Touch does the same thing. It's not a problem really it's just I'd like to be able to utilize the full screen.
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Yes, it does for movies but not TV thanks to the aspect ratio. Some player from the market (Moboplayer, Dice Player) let you resize to fill the screen.
I've heard of Handbrake, basically it's if I have full DVD's right? And you can't see true 720p or 1080p videos on this phone right? Only on a hdtv through the MHL adapter?
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Handbrake can re-encode almost any video source. You can watch 1080p movies on the phone but they only display in WVGA resolution. With MHL out the phone will playback full Blu Ray rips in 1080p (I do this often).
Depends on the movie. If it's a 16:9 movie, it should have little to no black bordering.
If it's a 2.35:1 movie - it's going to have black bars above/below.
4:3 content will have black bars left/right.
While you can directly watch 1080p content (we've got a beefy GPU), it gets scaled down to 480p - so it'll just waste storage space.
The preset I linked preserves the aspect ratio and limits to a max of 800 pixels wide or 480 tall, so basically scaling video to the optimal resolution for our phone - not too small, not any larger than the native resolution.
If you want to use the MHL adapter, I can post the 720p preset I use on my Tab 10.1
Entropy512 said:
Handbrake is the way to go. Free, open source, and uses one of the best H.264 encoders out there (x264).
I have attached the preset I use for encoding - note that this can probably use some tuning to be more appropriate for the GS2 as it's more capable than the Android devices I've encoded to before for media playback. It'll work just fine on the GS2, it just won't achieve quite the quality and compression ratios possible by enabling some of the more advanced H.264 features.
I disagree on conversion being unnecessary - 720p/1080p videos are pointless unless you're using the MHL adapter, they'll play but are a waste of storage space. Also, some codecs/formats may fallback on software decoding, eating your battery more than hardware-decoded formats.
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Thanks a lot for attaching your preset. It works great. You mentioned that it can use some tuning for our phone to achieve the quality and compression ratios possible. I don't know how to do that so I don't know if it's quick and simple to do or not. Can you do that and attach it for us to download?
Thanks
Basically go into Advanced and try enabling various features until something breaks.
I tried it on my Infuse at one point and it just caused audio and video to desync. Haven't had time to fiddle with it on the GS2. It's basically trial and error in the Advanced tab of Handbrake.
Entropy512 said:
Basically go into Advanced and try enabling various features until something breaks.
I tried it on my Infuse at one point and it just caused audio and video to desync. Haven't had time to fiddle with it on the GS2. It's basically trial and error in the Advanced tab of Handbrake.
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ok. thanks
can you post the preset you use for your tab 10.1?
thanks again
It's basically the exact same preset except the resolution limits are 1280x720. The resolution limits are hard to find, you only see them when saving a profile.
Does anybody have that?
For example Apple has listed for its Ipad4
Video formats supported: H.264 video up to 1080p, 30 frames per second, High Profile level 4.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; MPEG‑4 video up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file format
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Where are these specs from samsung or google? When I had my Ipad 4, this helped GREATLY with converting movies to the proper format.
Rinzler said:
Does anybody have that?
For example Apple has listed for its Ipad4
Where are these specs from samsung or google? When I had my Ipad 4, this helped GREATLY with converting movies to the proper format.
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Sort of a moving target.
The Exynos 5250 has native support for: MPEG-4/H.263/H.264 decoding and encoding and decoding only for (MPEG-2/VC-1 and VP8)
Source:
http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...t/application/detail?productId=7668&iaId=2341
BUT
The actual wrapper formats supported nativley and in what players depend on software support. Everything will play on the processor in software mode through a cpu decoder like FFMPEG being used by MX Player or BS Player from the market place (free). But software mode is not the most efficient mode and will drain the battery at a faster rate than native HW playback.
Here is what I know seems to work so far in the native player: MP4/H.264.
If anyone else has had native support with something else sound off. As to a spec sheet that is the best I can show you, but as I said it is not representative.
MrGrimace said:
Sort of a moving target.
The Exynos 5250 has native support for: MPEG-4/H.263/H.264 decoding and encoding and decoding only for (MPEG-2/VC-1 and VP8)
Source:
http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...t/application/detail?productId=7668&iaId=2341
BUT
The actual wrapper formats supported nativley and in what players depend on software support. Everything will play on the processor in software mode through a cpu decoder like FFMPEG being used by MX Player or BS Player from the market place (free). But software mode is not the most efficient mode and will drain the battery at a faster rate than native HW playback.
Here is what I know seems to work so far in the native player: MP4/H.264.
If anyone else has had native support with something else sound off. As to a spec sheet that is the best I can show you, but as I said it is not representative.
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Are you able to smoothly playback mp4's?
If you are..what frame rate and what avc works for you best?
Step 1: download MXplayer https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad&hl=en
Step 2: make sure your content isn't 10-bit (hint: most likely it isnt)
Step 3: Your content will play. Basically 99% of regular content will work. To be honest, I cant think of anything that hasnt worked for me, and I play high-bitrate anime with advanced substitle scripts (ASS-subs). It works fine.
Rinzler said:
Are you able to smoothly playback mp4's?
If you are..what frame rate and what avc works for you best?
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Yes. Most of the MP4s I have tried are H.264 standard 30fps and up to 1080P. All worked on the native player
For other's experiences with MP4s up to 60fps and 1440p see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995176
If you are using a player like MX Player and are trying to play an Mp4 Muxed into an MKV then the video will play with hardware and you can select software for the audio (right now. this may improve in the future).
As the other poster said. Almost everything will play with MX Player. It is just a question of whether it is played using HW codecs or SW Codecs. HW codecs use built in decoding capabilities on the chip to vastly reduce the workload on the processor. SW decodes everything on the processor and then pushes it to the screen. The only difference between the two from a user perspective is efficiency and battery usage. (and on super-res files there may sometimes be slowdown in SW mode)
To be honest I have tried everything from mkvs to rms to movs to wmvs on MX Player and ALL have played successfully in the SW player.