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Seeing some of the threads/questions re: Handbrake settings for the Nook, if you're having issues or just want something completely automated I found that DVD Catalyst ($10) has three presets for Nook Color (normal, fast, high quality) that work very well -- essentially just load the file or folder, select the preset and hit go. You can enable "advanced" user if you want to tweak the options but I've tested it with a couple of dvd video_ts folders and videos of different codecs (both audio and video) and they've all come out in good quality, and all playable without software decoding.
The file sizes that come out are comparable to the ones produced by presets for Handbrake people have produced here. a 1 hr 55 min video encoded for me at 1.39GB at the highest quality Nook setting.
I know it's not free like Handbrake but it might save someone headaches especially if they're wrestling with, for example, widescreen anamorphic content that isn't 16:9 or 4:3. Or if they just don't want to deal with tweaking presets
Does batch jobs as well, and has presets for a slew of other android devices if you're also converting for other formats/resolutions for your phone, etc.
is it faster then handbrake when converting the video?
Somewhat; I tested it last night for you with a 5-minute video. It took Handbrake 3 mins and 45 seconds to encode, it took DVD Catalyst 3 mins 15 seconds -- I can't (or haven't found) the command line interface to see what DVD Catalyst is writing out for its encode jobs, but I've tried to match w/e specs as closely as possible for the test (audio/video bitrate, etc.) How that will scale to larger files, I'm not entirely sure -- I batch encode all my videos before I go to bed at night.
I'd like to use AMD Video Converter as it uses the GPU to convert and is about twice as fast as Handbrake even on my Quad Core but I'm having trouble finding a way to manually control the settings for the output to match the NC needs. Anybody have any tips there?
Edit- Trying out MediaEspresso - Media Converter. So far, problems with output, will keep trying and report back. MediaEspresso settings not working with NC. It is a pretty nice encoder that has support for GPU encoding and is faster by about 50% than Handbrake, but not flexible enough to get the output that the NC needs. Working great to encode for my EVO however.
Just wanted to point out that with the speed of the NC (OC) and the range of codecs recognized by various players you hardly need to recode videos anymore.
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Just wanted to point out that with the speed of the NC (OC) and the range of codecs recognized by various players you hardly need to recode videos anymore.
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Have you gotten 720p videos to work smoothly with software decoding? I am only oc'ed to 1.1 Ghz and they still stutter. That's what I'm normally encoding.
*** Edit:*** Just to clarify, I mean encoding from 720p -> 480p so I can use Nook's hardware acceleration.
Both nookie froyo and the newer cm7 builds have hardware decoding
I didn't think the Nook's DSP (TI OMAP 3621) allowed native 720p decoding, only the OMAP 3630+ -- there was a thread here somewhere that said something about that. The 854x480 maximum resolution was, I thought, a hardware, not software limitation for the Nook.
From my own (meager) experience, anything higher than 480p insists on being played via software decoding regardless of what player I've used.
Some sites say 720p, others mention what you said... I just leave hd content for my bigger,hd screen
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I have moboplayer and CM7 OC to 1.3 and 720p video is still sub par via software decoding. Best results are still to handbrake recode to mp4 at 854x840.
The hardware decoding only handle mp4 files.
I tried this software to re-encode hd file to lower res mp4 and it does it lot faster than handbrake (on old P4 w/o gpu decoding GPU) : format factory : http://format-factory.softonic.fr/
I have a bunch of 1080p MKV movies that I want to convert into mobile versions for the Galaxy S II, but does anyone know what codecs I should use in order to take advantage of better battery life?
I play to shrink these down to 800x480 res. Any recommendations on bitrate too?
Also, any software or guides recommended to convert MKV to whatever codec has hardware acceleration for this phone?
All the video formats that the phone can play natively are hardware accelerated. So u can choose from MP4, avi, FLV and so on.....
I don't have much knowledge regarding the subject. But here's what I gathered:
According to Wikipedia:
The Exynos 4210, unlike Tegra 2, features support for ARM's SIMD engine (Media Processing Engine, a.k.a NEON instructions) and this may have a significant performance advantage in some cases over Tegra 2 in critical performance situations such as accelerated decoding for multiple multimedia codecs and formats (e.g., On2's VP6/7/8 or Real formats).
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Now, to take advantage of that hardware there also needs to be software that supports it.
MoboPlayer is one such software, that I know of, which has "ARM V7_NEON" playback codec and so it will fully utilize Galaxy S2 resources.
As to regards to which format you should convert...
On the MoboPlayer website is said that: "Almost all video formats(need to choose "software decoding" mode inmost cases)."
So I suppose what you need to do, is to disable "software decoding" mode and see what video formats will be supported in hardware mode.
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I don't have much knowledge regarding the subject. But here's what I gathered:
According to Wikipedia:
Now, to take advantage of that hardware there also needs to be software that supports it.
MoboPlayer is one such software, that I know of, which has "ARM V7_NEON" playback codec and so it will fully utilize Galaxy S2 resources.
As to regards to which format you should convert...
On the MoboPlayer website is said that: "Almost all video formats(need to choose "software decoding" mode inmost cases)."
So I suppose what you need to do, is to disable "software decoding" mode and see what video formats will be supported in hardware mode.
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I live in the US and we don't have the SGS2 released here yet. Can anyone who has the phone already, please test this out and let us know which codecs are hardware accelerated with MoboPlayer?
I found this guide for transcoding:
http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/211070-How-to-convert-MKV-to-AVI-or-OGM-to-AVI-using-mencoder
I don't think there is an "optimum" bitrate because that is going to vary depending on content, ie, number of fast motion scenes. Maybe encode it in VBR and set the top limit fairly high.
I know this phone will handle 1080p MKV, but some of my mkv files are like 12gb!
Hi, dont bother with anything else, handbrake should be your tool of choice. There are various templates included but I usually just set it to MP4 high profile and choose the file size I want, handbrake then does the rest and bloody well too.
Do a search on here for handbrake, there may already be threads about it, note though you should only really have to re-encode if you movies are over 4 gig (fat 32 limit) as I haven't found a file this phone wont play yet with one player or another. My players of choice are always stock first, then mobo, then DICE.
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Hi, dont bother with anything else, handbrake should be your tool of choice. There are various templates included but I usually just set it to MP4 high profile and choose the file size I want, handbrake then does the rest and bloody well too.
Do a search on here for handbrake, there may already be threads about it, note though you should only really have to re-encode if you movies are over 4 gig (fat 32 limit) as I haven't found a file this phone wont play yet with one player or another. My players of choice are always stock first, then mobo, then DICE.
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Thanks mate! Actually, I'm getting this phone for my GF for our anniversary and she's a big Harry Potter geek, she has all the books and blu-ray. I've already converted her blu-rays to MKV so she can have them all on the XPS 15, but I was hoping to convert the MKV down to a mobile friendly format.
All the HP movies add up to 80gb so I can't just copy the MKV's on there, that's why I was thinking of transcoding again.
I did find this bit of info on the Exynos:
http://www.samsung.com/us/business/oem-solutions/pdfs/Exynos_v11.pdf
1080p Video Encode/Decode
- H.264 30fps
- MPEG-4 30fps
- VC-1 30fps
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It doesn't say what container it supports but from what you say, it sounds like MP4 is the way to go. Thanks for the Handbrake tip!
one thing you should aware of is that if you intend to get the MHL>HDMI adapter at some point you may want to transcode at a resolution a little higher as it wont look great on the TV. If you are just playing on the phone then you can get them down to a fraction of the size. I found the best thing to do was to find a smaller film clip that was encoded as 1080 MKV and run off some tests, then save off the template and batch convert the log. I converted all my start trek films from 8 gig to 2 gig a piece, I left them at 1080p but set the file size down to 2 gig. The all look great on my Phone and still really good on my TV through the HDMI, best of both worlds.
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one thing you should aware of is that if you intend to get the MHL>HDMI adapter at some point you may want to transcode at a resolution a little higher as it wont look great on the TV. If you are just playing on the phone then you can get them down to a fraction of the size. I found the best thing to do was to find a smaller film clip that was encoded as 1080 MKV and run off some tests, then save off the template and batch convert the log. I converted all my start trek films from 8 gig to 2 gig a piece, I left them at 1080p but set the file size down to 2 gig. The all look great on my Phone and still really good on my TV through the HDMI, best of both worlds.
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Wow, that's crazy! I doubt my gf will ever output these to a TV. I'm still playing with Handbrake's settings.
One thing I don't get about it is that HP is 1920x800'ish, so when I set it to 800, the height drops down to 336'ish.
I think I'd rather have it fullscreen and sacrifice cropping some of the sides, so I clicked ASPECT RATIO and set the height to 480.
Handbrake set the width to 1152, so I set a crop of 176 on left and right, to try to bring the final size back down to 800x480.
But Handbrake has some weird algorithm that doesn't seem to give the desired result? It changed the output size of the video on its own after I changed the cropping values.
So, I'm not quite sure how cropping is handling in Handbrake, is it done before or after the resolution is resized?
Mobo can't use HW video decoder. SW decoder use SIMD(NEON) instructions.
Exynos HW video decoder can decode 1080p.
Try diceplayer. it use HW video decoder in Exynos ( Multi Function Codec )
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Mobo can't use HW video decoder. SW decoder use SIMD(NEON) instructions.
Exynos HW video decoder can decode 1080p.
Try diceplayer. it use HW video decoder in Exynos ( Multi Function Codec )
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Thanks but does it also depend on which container or codec the video is in?
I'm assuming that h.264 video in a MP4 container should be hardware accelerated right?
H264 in any container up to High Profile level 5.0
Trial at https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial&feature=search_result
Try it out!
Edit: Diceplayer and ES filemanager is a nice combo, plays mkv via wifi very nicely
Limitations
1. S5PC11x Chipset can play 720p(h.264 high profile)
2. Tegra 2 based phone can not play H.264 high profile clip.
3. Froyo Galaxy S/Tab can not play movie. Gingerbread is required.
4. 2nd gen. Snapdragon can not play H.264 High profile level 4.0/5.0 clip.
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Are we sure it will work? Testing now.
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Are we sure it will work? Testing now.
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Impressed! Works perfectly
Thanks for the link, buying it!
Does it play x264 high profile encoded 720p and 1080p mkv files?
Works perfect so far! Even plays across smb!
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Can someone check the playback of the following video clips, using Diceplayer? These clips are taken from this thread here. This is what the OP of that thread says:
This is a survey to see how well current tablets can play 720p and 1080p H.264 movies. Attached below are 6 sample clips from Avatar, each is of the same scene, encoded in H.264 high/main/baseline profile and 720p/1080p resolution. Please try all clips.
I've selected Avatar since it is full-frame and requires more bits than a normal wide-screen movie. This particular sequence is very high action, and serves as a worst-case test. (For playback, please minimize system load by closing down other running apps.)
http://mediafire.com/?15ec78k8s57db1z 1280 high MP4
http://mediafire.com/?pylvj2fa9kzynh2 1280 main MP4
http://mediafire.com/?9uk4z06ig651x3u 1280 baseline MP4
http://mediafire.com/?ge1nwgd5003s3ak 1920 high MP4
http://mediafire.com/?8aarftw6r499dga 1920 main MP4
http://mediafire.com/?7yqwhma8yhrhusq 1920 baseline MP4
The above video 1280 high profile play just fine with stock player. Android 3.1 handle highprofile mp4 with the right spec.
The 1920 highprofile freeze my tab and only gets audio. And when do people want to play 1080p? Better to use 720p with good quality and bitrate.
The thing that's stand out with diceplayer is that you can play .mkv.
It Evan plays videos with dts.
If you want use to test and see different between diceplayer and stock you should upload videos that don't run on stock player
Have tried some highprofile mkv and its almost ok, for the most time it runs smoothly, but sometimes the picture hangs,studder.
It's almost there but it don't reach all the way, hopes that we will see updates so the playback gets better.
Also think that mp4 baseline and other video plays smoother in movie's when there is alot of movement and panning.
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Doesn't play on my 3.1 Tab
Diceplayer doesn't work on my Tab - running HC3.1. Anyone else have problems?
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Diceplayer doesn't work on my Tab - running HC3.1. Anyone else have problems?
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Same for me
arnold88 said:
Diceplayer doesn't work on my Tab - running HC3.1. Anyone else have problems?
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Same here, it opens, sits for a second, then closes.
Works pretty well with these ([email protected] AC3) TV shows that I download. Not bad since Mobo couldn't play these smoothly. Video has some hiccups but audio is smooth.
Downloaded a sample video ([email protected] DTS) and there was no video. Then the file stopped playing half way through (27 seconds in).
But I don't watch movies on my tablet anyway, only TV shows. And this seems to work great. Let's see if it'll be able to stream the TV shows smoothly. Thanks OP!
This plays my 720p x264 mkvs perfectly. Fantastic find, Doc, thanks.
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Ahh finally, since neither stock nor mobo could play my .mkv's (tv series) this is godsend.
I'm running HC 3.1 & TW.
Got Diceplayer playing back a 720p .MKV file (not sure if it was high profile or not) - not buttery smooth but better than anything else I've seen so far on HC3.1
Got a couple of questions, I was wondering if anyone can answer...
1) Diceplayer claims to offer hardware accelerated video decoding - is this for .MKVs?
2) Is that hardware acceleratation for Tegra 2
3) IF so, how are they managing it where so many others have failed? (Wasn't the core problem with offering HW acceleration for .MKVs down to lack of support from the nVidia side of things?)
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1) Diceplayer claims to offer hardware accelerated video decoding - is this for .MKVs?
=> Yes. it use hw accelerator at any format with MPEG-4/H.264
you can play MOV / AVI files with HW accel.
2) Is that hardware acceleratation for Tegra 2
=> YES.
It plays 720p high profile mkv without any issues. With 1080p, The video stops playing, but the audio still works for some, but wont for most of the 1080p videos either mkv or mp4. I think this might be achieved in the future.
720p playback is great !
1080p just freeze the tab but hey not even my Galaxy S II cant handle Full HD besides the resolution is useless for now anyway
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It plays 720p high profile mkv without any issues. With 1080p, The video stops playing, but the audio still works for some, but wont for most of the 1080p videos either mkv or mp4. I think this might be achieved in the future.
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I don't think it (Galaxy Tab/Tegra2) can handle level 4.1 or higher. But plays the rest better than anything else I've tried.
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1) Diceplayer claims to offer hardware accelerated video decoding - is this for .MKVs?
=> Yes. it use hw accelerator at any format with MPEG-4/H.264
you can play MOV / AVI files with HW accel.
2) Is that hardware acceleratation for Tegra 2
=> YES.
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Awesome.. which leads me to question 3.. *How* are they managing to implement HW acceleration where the other software vendors have failed? e.g. the reliance on core NVidia software library support (or lack of it apparently) ??
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Awesome.. which leads me to question 3.. *How* are they managing to implement HW acceleration where the other software vendors have failed? e.g. the reliance on core NVidia software library support (or lack of it apparently) ??
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see my interview.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/07/20/focus-on-apps-dice-player/
* Update *
Youtube Video Samples below for comparison - some compression artifacts showing there, not from the sony tablet playback (it was flawless on either mode), most likely youtube recompression tools
Hi,
I bought one of these tablets just yesterday - 16GB version - and so far I'm extremely pleased with it! Typing is a breeze, image quality is superb, gaming is pretty decent even for 3D, I bought Riptide GP after upgrading Honeycomb to 3.2, but I'm having issues with HD mkv playback.
Basically, watching 720p or 480p even (anime mkv files) I get jerky video playback when the movie player is set to HW mode. The jerks are subtle and steady, but mostly noticeable especially on panning scenes. If I change the player settings to SW or Fast SW, playback is smooth but slightly less quality there (but totally fine though). I've tried several players other than the built-in video player and results are the same.
HD flash plays OK, so I don't think this is a hardware performance issue, probably some HW / codec compatibility issue....
Can anyone else confirm this? Horriblesubs releases (Naruto Shippuuden / Fairy Tail).
SD xvid releases play just fine, both HW and SW settings on the player.
Better .h264 codec support perhaps?
(apparently, not .h264!)
Oh, and quite pleased with the fact that video files can in fact be played directly from the SD card, without having to copy them to the internal memory storage!
I tried posting from the XDA free app in the Market, but somehow, it crashes everytime I try to post from it, so I'm using the android browser - already submitted a report.
Video Info:
Codec 4CC: AVC1
Image Size: 1280x720
Frame Rate: 23.976 fps
Global Motion Compensation: No
packet Bitstream: No
Quarter Pixel: No
Audio:
Codec: AAC
Channels: Stereo
Bitrate: 16000 Bps / 128 Kbps
Variable Bitrate: No
Frequency: 44100 Hz
SW Mode (Fast): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiAj80cC0s8
HW Mode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AXWH3RE-R4
wickwire said:
Hi,
I bought one of these tablets just yesterday - 16GB version - and so far I'm extremely pleased with it! Typing is a breeze, image quality is superb, gaming is pretty decent even for 3D, I bought Riptide GP after upgrading Honeycomb to 3.2, but I'm having issues with HD mkv playback.
Basically, watching 720p or 480p even (anime mkv files) I get jerky video playback when the movie player is set to HW mode. The jerks are subtle and steady, but mostly noticeable especially on panning scenes. If I change the player settings to SW or Fast SW, playback is smooth but slightly less quality there (but totally fine though). I've tried several players other than the built-in video player and results are the same.
HD flash plays OK, so I don't think this is a hardware performance issue, probably some HW / codec compatibility issue....
Can anyone else confirm this? Horriblesubs releases (Naruto Shippuuden / Fairy Tail).
SD xvid releases play just fine, both HW and SW settings on the player.
Better .h264 codec support perhaps?
Oh, and quite pleased with the fact that video files can in fact be played directly from the SD card, without having to copy them to the internal memory storage!
I tried posting from the XDA free app in the Market, but somehow, it crashes everytime I try to post from it, so I'm using the android browser - already submitted a report.
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I am having the same problem you described? Is this typical on all android tablets?
Looks like i'll need to convert unfortunately... I wonder if there is an app for that.
Unless it is a codec issue and there is an alternative codec or fix..
I'm curious, do you feel the quality between HW mode and either SW mode available to be that worse? I'm using SW for now on these particular files, I was thinking about converting the files original formats but SW still seems pretty good I think! I will try to snapshot the differences and post them here!
Hadn't noticed before, the tablet comes with 3 HD sample videos inside all play just fine, no jerks - seems more and more like a specific codec compatibility issue with tegra possibly, to me...
A software issue. I can play videos fine on my Jetstream and Ipad2 which play badly on the tablet S.
So it isn't an android issue.
For MKV playback try DicePlayer and install the Diceplayer plugin for tegra.
Try the trial version to see it meets your requirements (before buying).
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Diceplayer uses HW video decoder.
It use HW video decoder at various containers and audio codecs combination. ( H.264/AC-3/MKV, H.264/DTS/MKV , H.264/AAC/MOV )
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For MKV playback try DicePlayer and install the Diceplayer plugin for tegra.
Try the trail version to see it meets your requirements (before buying).
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It use HW video decoder at various containers and audio codecs combination. ( H.264/AC-3/MKV, H.264/DTS/MKV , H.264/AAC/MOV )
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Tried it, perfect playback with the plugin - bought it already, many thanks!
yeah DicePlayer indeed the best HW accelerated player in the market... support MKV, AC3 audio codec, subs... wooot
exkaizen said:
yeah DicePlayer indeed the best HW accelerated player in the market... support MKV, AC3 audio codec, subs... wooot
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+1 I tried out MX player too but found that DicePlayer had smoother playback.
Working container / video / audio combo and easy conversion
I've tested several combinations of container / video / audio formats with several players. First of all, I didn't notice any significant differences in playback quality between the players I tried, but I might not have tried Dice player for all of the combos.
I did try MX Video Player, mVideoPlayer, MoboPlayer and BS Player Lite, with a 720p h264 encoded video track at about 3000 kbps. For all players, I found the SW decoding modes to insufferably slow and jerky - I assume a lower bitrate in the video track might fix that. Per hardware acceleration, the video always played fine (when it played at all, see format details below).
These combos did NOT work:
mkv/mp4 container, h264 encoded video, mp3 audio
mkv container, h264 encoded video, ac3 audio (plays the video hw accelerated, but doesn't play the sound at all)
mkv container, h264 encoded video, aac audio
The only combo that did work flawlessly was this:
mp4 container, h264 encoded video, aac audio
I now had the problem that my standard video encoding tool, handbrake, cannot transcode files without also recoding the video file - and why would I want to recode the video when usually it's a h264 encoded video that will play with the right container & audio? The easiest way to transcode such a file is to use ffmpeg - I did this under linux, but it should work the same for Windows:
Code:
ffmpeg -i INPUTFILE.mkv -vcodec copy -acodec libfaac -ab 160k -ar 48000 -async 48000 OUTPUTFILE.mp4
I couldn't figure out a way to easily transcode mkv files where the video track has a variable bitrate (VFR) - I had to recode those with handbrake. If anyone has a simpler method that doesn't involve avisynth / is available for linux, I'd be happy to hear it.
DicePlayer rocks. I tried various apps but only did DicePlayer works. Tested with a 1080 h.264 movie and the quality was STUNNING! Definitely worth the money
By the way, Honey does not support H.264 natively so most of the players out there won't work
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DicePlayer rocks. I tried various apps but only did DicePlayer works. Tested with a 1080 h.264 movie and the quality was STUNNING! Definitely worth the money
By the way, Honey does not support H.264 natively so most of the players out there won't work
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Thanks for the heads up and for the good news! Downloading now!
Hey guys, just got a few 720p high profile mkv files which reviews claimed could be played with the stock video player. All 3 files currently do not. Dice player works in trial but when i try to buy it gives me not found in the market. I'd rather usethe built in player personally but has anyone else had any luck either way?
EDIT solved with bs player
Try moboplayer its free.
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or MXPlayer I have used that on many MKVs
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Hey guys, just got a few 720p high profile mkv files which reviews claimed could be played with the stock video player. All 3 files currently do not. Dice player works in trial but when i try to buy it gives me not found in the market. I'd rather usethe built in player personally but has anyone else had any luck either way?
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I got same problem,but i used mx player and upnp , works flawless
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erick0423 said:
I got same problem,but i used mx player and upnp , works flawless
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I use the exact same
mx player works well but there's no hardware decoding available in any of them. Very disappointed ( though I know the hardware is capable of it). I know anandtech? Or one of the reviews did a blu ray rip and it played great so I'm guessing I'm missing something, an update broke it or if will be fixed in ics. Is also possible they just need hardware drivers for tegra3. I'm optimistic, is launch week, well have awesome devs, it'll get sorted eventually. Even software decode stutters just a bit ( I'm a video perfectionist). Also peeved at xda app FCs but again, brand new device. Just let me know if anyone (particularly those who didn't update) has any better luck.
Unbelievable , this still not resolved after the Tegra 2 debacle.
i've played a couple mkv's just fine with the stock player and mx player. the only issue i've had with them is if i skip around, the video never picks back up, works fine in software though.
but if i just watch the movie through without skipping around, it plays perfectly.
as you can see here ICS has added support to the Matroska format, so hopefully the default player will be handling it smoothly in ICS.
hXXp://briefmobile.com/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-announced-feature-list
replace hXXp with http in link.
That's good to know. Was thinking of cancelling my preorder once I heard people having problems with mkv's & diceplayer being unavailable
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mx player works well but there's no hardware decoding available in any of them. Very disappointed ( though I know the hardware is capable of it). I know anandtech? Or one of the reviews did a blu ray rip and it played great so I'm guessing I'm missing something, an update broke it or if will be fixed in ics. Is also possible they just need hardware drivers for tegra3. I'm optimistic, is launch week, well have awesome devs, it'll get sorted eventually. Even software decode stutters just a bit ( I'm a video perfectionist). Also peeved at xda app FCs but again, brand new device. Just let me know if anyone (particularly those who didn't update) has any better luck.
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How were these files encoded? Because in order to take advantage of hardware decoding a file has to meet a certain standard. If it deviates even a tiny bit, it will not work.
Go and Download BSPlayer lite from the market. It has the same funtionality like Diceplayer. Tegra 3 can nearly play all 1080p vids.
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How were these files encoded? Because in order to take advantage of hardware decoding a file has to meet a certain standard. If it deviates even a tiny bit, it will not work.
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Well its h264 high profile, which tegra 3 plays. Tegra 3 isn't picky, as long as its less than a 42mbps bitrate the hardware will handle it. The only standard it must meet is 1080p and less and 42mbps or less in h264 anyways. For tegra 3, i'm sure software is the issue.
Files came from my media server which are also hw accelerated with an nvidia graphics card via vdpau. never even have to check, just always plays (h264 anyways)
Again, i'm sure they'll fix it eventually,I know the chip does it, still annoying., its why I never bought tegra 2. And for those suggesting software decode, battery life PLUMMETS and the performance we would have with hw decode would be as good or better than blu ray with no stutter.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/5
EDIT:BS player appears to work WITH hardware acceleration. Every other app told me "not supported by system player, using software device" including dice
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Prime will handle highprofile mkv just fine if you use a other media player like mxplayer, diceplayer The problem when you can't play with the stock player is that it for the most times can't handle the audio.
Just give them some time to update there players to full Tegra3 support. The device have only been out some days and I think the developers also would like to have a device to test on.
I have posted this in a other thread, but I will repost it here to. From swedroid.se test, and translated into English.
"As is the case for the music player, Asus do net onclude their own video players, but instead uses default player that comes with Android. This is a rather rowdy players who only manages one of our clip in the table below (# 9), but without any sound, because support for AC3 missing."
"The third-party video player dice player or MX Video Player, both of which are available in the Android Market, it is however full marks. ASUS Prime plays everything we feed it with, whether it is DivX, XviD or MKV / h (x) 264-films with soundtracks in DTS or AC3 format."
Resolution / Codec / Profile / Container / Bitrate / Audio / Results (MX Video Player
640x352 XviD / [email protected] / AVI 1 Mbit/s MP3 2.0 OK
576x320 XviD / [email protected] / AVI 1,4 Mbit/s MP3 2.0 OK
720p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 3 Mbit/s AC-3 5.1 OK
720p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 9 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 14 Mbit/s DTS 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 19,2 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 22,8 Mbit/s DTS 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 25 Mbit/s DTS 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 30 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 42 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
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@OP
Have you tried a straight MP4 (H264/AAC) with standard Android player? You do realize that it's not just the video track that kicks the (3rd-party) player into HW or SW mode, right? Subtitles, for instance, will invoke SW mode. Chapter tracks will also probably cause SW.
As much as you sound you know, then you should also know that not every downloaded video is the same. If you have problems, SOP is first to provide specs (MediaInfo works), second is to provide a sample, third is to specify environment (which player you've tried, and their respective performance). Only noobs go "my vids don't work, now what?"
With the non-info you've provided, all you get is guesswork.
What do you mean by " files came from a media server"? If you are streaming to the device, expect skipping playback because WiFi can't handle hi-bitrate 1080p.
I have no issues running 720p or 1080p hi profile (locally) on my Transformer Prime in Dice player, even with DTS and multiple audio tracks.
people need to realise 3rd party players need to be optimised for tegra 3 for hardware acceleration. its not to do with type of file, as long as it does not have very high bitrate.
Everyone has to understand, that MKV is just a container. You can put almost anything into this container so therefore it is unlikely that the hardware can decode everything that can go into a MKV container.
The main thing about the Kal-El SoC, it is the first chip that can decode h.264 High Profile video. To see the supported codecs that Tegra 3 can decode in hardware see: http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-superchip.html
I've ripped hundreds of blu-rays. I've ended up using two sets of files.
Archive for playback on Samsung LED TV's and other high end DLNA devices:
Container: MKV
Video: H.264 High Profile 4.0 Constant Quality 18-20 1080p
Audio: AAC-LC 384 5.1 channel
Subtitles: sub format
Software: HD Decrypter, RipBot264 and Handbrake
Mobile Devices:
Container: m4v
Video: H.264 Base 3.0 Profile, 2-pass (1000kbps widescreen and 1200kbps for 16x9) qHD size (960x540),
Audio: AAC-LC 128 2 channel
Subtitles: Converted from the MKV
Software: Handbrake
I spend most of the time make the archive format looking as good as possible for it's size. Most files come out to 4-7GB per movie. There are exceptions depending on the quality of the movie. Movies with lots of noise in them come out to be much larger then one that is very clean. Computer Generated movies will come out to 3-4GB using CQ 18. The Prime should decode these just fine.
The mobile size I use for under powered devices and also to have as many movies as possible for it's size. qHD actually ends up looking very nice for it's size when down converted from blu-ray. A two hour movie comes out to be about 1GB. This way I can have on average 60-70 movies on 64B microsdxc card and about the same on the 64GB prime itself.
sorry, but I felt I provided all necessary info. The files are stored locally, mkv h264 high profile 20mbps streams with ac3 5.1 audio. They also have subtitles, though I don't need them.tpb was the source of all 3.
In any event, bs player works with hardware acceleration perfectly and I'm very happy. It also shows the hardware is fully capable of it, software will soon follow (ics)
compuw22c said:
sorry, but I felt I provided all necessary info. The files are stored locally, mkv h264 high profile 20mbps streams with ac3 5.1 audio. They also have subtitles, though I don't need them.tpb was the source of all 3.
In any event, bs player works with hardware acceleration perfectly and I'm very happy. It also shows the hardware is fully capable of it, software will soon follow (ics)
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According to the Tegra 3 specs, AC3 is not supported in hardware.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-superchip.html