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I'm curious... Do you apply/wanna apply a lag fix because your device is actually lagging or is it just the thing to do nowadays? I ask because I have never found a need for one. The only lag I had on the Vibrant was when I first took it out of the box and even that was kinda tolerable. But as things are right now, I really don't see how my device could get any faster and if it could...why? Quadrant scores? What is the real advantage (if any) to having it? .02¢
Lag fix? Never have, never will!
High quadrant scores. Do you see the first thing most people mention when they install the lag fix?
"My quadrant score went from 200 to 2000!!!!!!!!" as if it was an indicator of actual performance.
No good, controlled tests have been conducted.
I don't use it. The one time I did, when it was included in the kernel with BLN, I had horrible battery life. Most people use it to get higher scores. The N1 would run circles around the Vibrant in terms of scores but when in real world testing, both devices are just as fast.
It's not just scores...
It makes your system a bit faster people nowadays do it without needing to and there's nothing wrong with that.
I run a lagfix and it has improved my speed and response.
Without making me lose any battery
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It's not just scores...
It makes your system a bit faster people nowadays do it without needing to and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Point taken, but looking at most of the threads in the Q&A section...it seems that the LF's do more harm than good, especially if you aren't too sure about what you're doing.
Lag fix? Never have, never will!
The lag fix circumvents RFS in many areas.
Galaxy S phones have terrible I/O performance. Notably Database Read/Writes and apps that work generally hit the storage often.
Run Touchdown on a Galaxy S phone without a lag fix and you'll see how sluggish that application runs due to RFS. The workaround is to move the database to the external SD Card (which results in frequent corruptions) or install a lag fix.
It also causes the phone to take an inordinate amount of time to boot up (Media Scanning... etc.) and lag randomly when applications sync and access the storage to write data. It lags when Installing and Uninstalling applications from the Android market as well.
If you think a Lag Fix is only to boost Quadrant Scores (those scores are bunk, anyways), then perhaps you're using a different phone in a Vibrant casing.
There are several applications littered with "laggy on my Galaxy S" in the market.
Also, there is a bug in the Samsung Android 2.1 kernel that breaks some applications. That's why there are apps popping up saying you need 2.2 on your Galaxy S phone to run them (Skype, Yahoo Messenger, etc.).
My Vibrant, both before and after JI6, was laggy to the point of not being usable - until I applied RyanZA's OCLF (I removed OCLF and tried voodoo but soft-bricked the phone in the process). I've never run the Quadrant score analysis - all I care about is usability of the phone, and after the OCLF was applied my phone became usable.
I tried Axura 2.0.x with no lag fixes and, while my phone was generally faster than JI6 pre-lag fix, it still suffered from lag in many user interactions (opening apps, launching email, reading individual emails, using gallery, etc.) I went back to stock + JI6 via ODIN, reapplied OCLF, and was happy again.
Are there different hardware revisions of the Vibrant that might account for the differences in user experience? I've seen many posts from users who claim they never had any lag or GPS problems, and many more (like me) who have been plagued with them.
Most of those users are fanboys and wouldn't admit it even if they fot one of those 5+ second lockups while making their post.
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I'm curious... Do you apply/wanna apply a lag fix because your device is actually lagging or is it just the thing to do nowadays? I ask because I have never found a need for one. The only lag I had on the Vibrant was when I first took it out of the box and even that was kinda tolerable. But as things are right now, I really don't see how my device could get any faster and if it could...why? Quadrant scores? What is the real advantage (if any) to having it? .02¢
Lag fix? Never have, never will!
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It's cause the phone is laggy. I don't usr lag fixes because I don't lile tampering with phones at the system level, regardless, but I have freezes several times a day and have even had my phone completely lock up on me a couple of times - requiring a battery pull.
The less services you have running, and the less apps that sync data runnimg, the less the lag is. The lag happens mostly when the storagr is used (background syncing can cause it, for example).
Yes, people with no twit/fb/reader apps/accounts setup, among other things may be totally fine depending on their usage.
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Once you go Lag Fix you never go back! Lol
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It has made some apps actually usable.
Before the lag fix, the facebook app was basically unusable for me. Any action would have a 5-10 second pause before seeing a result.
Swipe to scroll, wait, click a picture, wait.
I think the facebook app was the worse for me because I did manual updates so every time I launched the app, it would be d/ling and writing while I was trying to scroll around and read stuff.
But in general, it has made my phone usable. Before I did the lag fix, I basically stopped using my phone because it got so annoying having to wait.
I've never run quadrant on my phone actually. I don't even really use root for anything. I did it primarily for the lag fix and the I changed my battery bar so that it's accurate. Everything else I'm happy with.
So, could this just be an issue that only certain phones have? Or, could some of it be mental? Like, if you hear enough ppl say that this is broken or that isn't working...you start to think that yours is broken also? I've never had an issue with gps...and I use foursquare and navigation on a regular basis. But everybody else seems to have broken gps.
Lag fix? Never have, never will!
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Yes, people with no twit/fb/reader apps/accounts setup, among other things may be totally fine depending on their usage.
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This makes sense. Everything besides my work email account is synced manually. FB, TD, etc. And when I get really busy I even cut my data off. But on the other hand, I text and browse constantly. And switch back and forth between appear running simultaneously. And when im not working...
Lag fix? Never have, never will!
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This makes sense. Everything besides my work email account is synced manually. FB, TD, etc. And when I get really busy I even cut my data off.
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hmm... I used a JFS lag fix for awhile, and it still hung slightly when syncing.
it did not seem better or worse really.
and the same thing happens on my mytouch so I think its just something that happens, lag fix running or not.
its really not that bothersome, but I do the same as you, I manually sync most everything.
I mean if I'm not looking at my facebook widget constantly, why should it be auto syncing?
lol it only takes a second to push the refresh button
but thats just me.
N8ter said:
It's cause the phone is laggy. I don't usr lag fixes because I don't lile tampering with phones at the system level, regardless, but I have freezes several times a day and have even had my phone completely lock up on me a couple of times - requiring a battery pull.
The less services you have running, and the less apps that sync data runnimg, the less the lag is. The lag happens mostly when the storagr is used (background syncing can cause it, for example).
Yes, people with no twit/fb/reader apps/accounts setup, among other things may be totally fine depending on their usage.
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I have 2 email account, syncmypix, weather apps & news updating every hour and i have never had any lag problems, even running on JI2 stock, much less ever had phone freezes. The ONLY time I had phone freezing was messing with those OC kernels, which I promptly uninstalled.
Let me ask people that run lag fixes this, when playing with the Vibrant at the t-mobile store, why did you choose buy it if you were experiencing this "lag", especially when it was running stock firmware?
edit: I also ran JFS lag fix for a day, but that drained my battery faster than a fat kid ate cake. It was not even noticeably faster either.
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So, could this just be an issue that only certain phones have? Or, could some of it be mental? Like, if you hear enough ppl say that this is broken or that isn't working...you start to think that yours is broken also? I've never had an issue with gps...and I use foursquare and navigation on a regular basis. But everybody else seems to have broken gps.
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Its not mental its on every phone. Unless lagfixed/hacked u have the same fileaystem as us.
The home switchers and unofficial roms are morw mental due to placebo effect - some lag fixes aren't even that good, but people claim tenfold improvements due to placebo effect...
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I have 2 email account, syncmypix, weather apps & news updating every hour and i have never had any lag problems, even running on JI2 stock, much less ever had phone freezes. The ONLY time I had phone freezing was messing with those OC kernels, which I promptly uninstalled.
Let me ask people that run lag fixes this, when playing with the Vibrant at the t-mobile store, why did you choose buy it if you were experiencing this "lag", especially when it was running stock firmware?
edit: I also ran JFS lag fix for a day, but that drained my battery faster than a fat kid ate cake. It was not even noticeably faster either.
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The phone T the store wasn't syncing a google and corp accoumt, plus facebook, plus twitter, and other apps. It simply wadn't prone to lagging, brcausr no user in their righy mind sets their **** up on a display unit just to test it.
Btw, "why didn't you test it for 10 min before you bought it" is getting old.
Their were no other good phones in t-mo when many of us broughy yhis. Couldn't just swap for a g2, mt4g, or hd7.
Many people thought an update would fix it, like the gps.
We were wrong, obviously.
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hmm... I used a JFS lag fix for awhile, and it still hung slightly when syncing.
it did not seem better or worse really.
and the same thing happens on my mytouch so I think its just something that happens, lag fix running or not.
its really not that bothersome, but I do the same as you, I manually sync most everything.
I mean if I'm not looking at my facebook widget constantly, why should it be auto syncing?
lol it only takes a second to push the refresh button
but thats just me.
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If not syncing, then you can miss direct message notifications on fb and twitter.
Symcing manually is unacceptable to many. Don't have to do that on other phones......
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BlackElvis79 said:
Point taken, but looking at most of the threads in the Q&A section...it seems that the LF's do more harm than good, especially if you aren't too sure about what you're doing.
Lag fix? Never have, never will!
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If you have stock rom then oclf is best and I'm on Axura so my choice is voodoo but I've read it causes too many problems.
People should know what their doing before messing with stuff like that..
They have a forum here to ask all these questions but they do it themselves then when their phones screwed they ask questions...
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If not syncing, then you can miss direct message notifications on fb and twitter.
Symcing manually is unacceptable to many. Don't have to do that on other phones......
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I've done it on pretty much every phone I've owned, but like I said its not really nessicary, if anything its a slight stutter, but either way its not different than other android phones I've used (even my vibrant using a lag fix). its really just my preference to sync manually.
I flashed Nero v3 recently; Voodoo is disabled by default.
So far I see no need for increase in speed (the speed boosts I need relate to data =)) but I'm just curious to see if there is a noticeable improvement with it enabled.
Opinions? or dare I say...Facts?
Voodoo just makes everything smoother. Every once your phone might lag in market l but voodoo fixes that. It is just a more smoother experience.
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Try opening several apps...
Then try it on voodoo...
If you are content with the very slight delay, no worries, but an ext4 file system really is a much better user experience.
come back in a week or two. RFS will be laggy. Voodoo/ext4 will still be zippy.
I am a very impatient person. With voodoo disabled I noticed I had to wait for everything to work. Switching screens took a solid sec or two. The lag when opening up an app or mms drove me nuts. With voodoo enabled there is no wait time. Everything works instantly.
So what's the catch? Is there a downside (such as stability issues) in using voodoo?
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So what's the catch? Is there a downside (such as stability issues) in using voodoo?
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I am trying to think of any and come short
The SGS series should've come with EXT4 by default from Samsung
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So what's the catch? Is there a downside (such as stability issues) in using voodoo?
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The only catch is that the battery life drains faster with it enabled. Not enough for me to care though.
Is there a big difference in battery life? Reading the Nero threads, doesn't seem to be a big deal.
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Is there a big difference in battery life? Reading the Nero threads, doesn't seem to be a big deal.
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Voodoo is the stock kernel, and it is not OC'd or anything. I have not personally noticed a difference in battery.... and if there was one, the gain having your file system converted to EXT4 is worth it.
supercuriou is a genius... just roll with it.
Downside... remember to disable it before flashing something.
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I was able to get 36 hours out with Voodoo disabled. With it enabled and a LWP, I only got 28 hours, not sure if it's Voodoo or the LWP but can't really complain about 28 hours. At the same time though, don't notice much of a difference in speed as Nero v3 was already speedy.
I installed the Nameless v4 yesterday and v4.1 today.
On the Froyo roms my battery pull on idol was -2 to -10ma [i use battery monitor widget]
Now on the GB i am getting -100 to -275.
Is anyone else experiencing this kind of draw?
[I do understand that the GB is a wip]
I can't speak on the new build, but I was running the 4.0 build and my battery ran down so quickly that I thought I left my gps running with a connection. I also was having quite a lot of issues with the rom, so I thought it was a fluke. I'm on 4.1 and it's been running much better, so hopefully the battery drain isn't as great.
Definitely sounds like you've got a runaway process or wake-lock occurring somewhere. Have a look around the processes and see if something's keeping the CPU running hard. Also run a dumpsys power from adb and see if something's keeping it from sleeping.
Im getting quite the opposite here. It's been almost a day and after moderate use I have a little over 50%. It's amazing because I would be getting half of that on a full charge in froyo.
Looks like it may have been the Widget itself.
But i am not sure, if i closed the running application of Battery Monitor it dropped down to -1 or -2 but then ten mins later its back up to -300.
The other possibility is when i kill the app the widget gets no information and defaults to a low number.
Thank you everyone for your input. I will keep on testing to find my battery killer.
I also may try uninstalling K-9 mail and reverting to the stock Mail client
It being on stock kernel and a lot of debugging features being enabled will do that to your battery.
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A lot of people have reported poor battery life with K-9, FWIW, though the K-9 devs say there isn't an issue. I haven't used it myself so I can't really say... you could try this though:
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.r3pek.k9datakiller&feature=also_installed
4.1 drained my battery from 100% to 10% in about 4 hours today. But then I plugged in and rebooted and I had 40%, so I would imagine a battery stats wipe is needed on my phone.
My home button does not work as well, so I am going to re-install again and see if it fixes these issues.
Anyone else had the home button issue?
Edit: The re install fix the home button/lock screen issue. Will report back on the battery tomorrow.
Weird, my battery is AMAZING on Nameless. After 11 hours with using Screeble, with moderate use, I'm at 50%.
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I installed the Nameless v4 yesterday and v4.1 today.
On the Froyo roms my battery pull on idol was -2 to -10ma [i use battery monitor widget]
Now on the GB i am getting -100 to -275.
Is anyone else experiencing this kind of draw?
[I do understand that the GB is a wip]
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I tried Nameless 4.0 and it used less than 20% during the first 6 hours.
Whenever I flash a new rom, it uses more power at first and less and less as you use the phone. Some people insist that you do not have to kill the apps especially on Gingerbread.
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Some people insist that you do not have to kill the apps especially on Gingerbread.
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Assuming you're talking about task killers, "some people" = Google. With the exception of apps like Watchdog (which just notifies you of apps using excessive CPU, like >50%), task killers hurt more than they help -- they're all effectively scams.
Google's serious techy explanation:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.
An excellent, understandable article from Lifehacker:
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
I thought I read somewhere (either the EC09 Leak thread on the Nameless v4 thread) that auto-rotate is causing 50% cpu for this EC09 leak, would that have something to do with battery drain?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131213&page=15
Thanks
saw the one about auto rotate and turned it off, then i was in the -50 to -100
But that is still bad coming from froyo`s -2 to -10
So i went back to Com Rom and will be awaiting the best Devs on XDA to crack the Leak and make some fantastic ROMS, just like they did with Froyo!
Keep up the good work!
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saw the one about auto rotate and turned it off, then i was in the -50 to -100
But that is still bad coming from froyo`s -2 to -10
So i went back to Com Rom and will be awaiting the best Devs on XDA to crack the Leak and make some fantastic ROMS, just like they did with Froyo!
Keep up the good work!
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I suggest disabling auto rotate, rebooting, and then never turning auto rotate on again. (even toggling on/off can get the events/0 process stuck at high cpu usage) Once I did this, the full bloated GB leak is spanking Froyo battery life.
This more than makes up for the poor contacts scrolling for this guy.
Also full bloated GB leak appears to be much safer for you SD card than other versions of the leak.
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I suggest disabling auto rotate, rebooting, and then never turning auto rotate on again. (even toggling on/off can get the events/0 process stuck at high cpu usage) Once I did this, the full bloated GB leak is spanking Froyo battery life.
This more than makes up for the poor contacts scrolling for this guy.
Also full bloated GB leak appears to be much safer for you SD card than other versions of the leak.
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This. My battery life (and signal dBm) has been MUCH better even at work, which is notoriously hard on the battery due to being so well insulated.
I've had ZERO issues with the SD card so far, and it's a huge mystery what exactly is causing that. I ODIN'd the leak an hour after it was posted, then the NamelessV4 rom, then the NamelessV4.1 and haven't had a single issue. There needs to be a better process of defining it, and I'd be willing to bet it has something to do with the recovery the person used when it was flashed.
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I've had ZERO issues with the SD card so far, and it's a huge mystery what exactly is causing that. I ODIN'd the leak an hour after it was posted, then the NamelessV4 rom, then the NamelessV4.1 and haven't had a single issue. There needs to be a better process of defining it, and I'd be willing to bet it has something to do with the recovery the person used when it was flashed.
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I was one of the unlucky ones that had a 16GB get ruined. But i know it was my fault. i didnt odin the original leak i went from com rom to nameless and it botched my card. But i am lucky i had my POS BB Storm 2's 16gb. I also went and got a $10 4gb card that i now use when testing out the GB roms [better safe than sorry]
I will try that with the new rom and let you know what i am getting.
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I was one of the unlucky ones that had a 16GB get ruined. But i know it was my fault. i didnt odin the original leak i went from com rom to nameless and it botched my card. But i am lucky i had my POS BB Storm 2's 16gb. I also went and got a $10 4gb card that i now use when testing out the GB roms [better safe than sorry]
I will try that with the new rom and let you know what i am getting.
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That's definitely what I'd be leaning towards. I also took the added (though not really needed) step of using the GB root exploit app, and confirming all was well before ever flashing CWM3.xx in ODIN, then going onto the nameless ROMs. I've actually tried to re-create the problem since I stuck in a spare 4GB card waiting for it to happen, but nothing so far.
Everything is so new, it's really all speculation for the time being. I personally don't think it's the ROM or the leak causing the problem, although it's obviously a factor. There are so many different combinations of recoveries being used (as if all of us read directions in full) and ROMs were flashed in different sequences that it's impossible to nail it down.
Aside from disabling auto rotate, I've had no complaints about the leak or ROM. I ran CM7 forever on my Eris before getting this Fascinate, and while I like it, it's a pain to deal with the missing functionality at times.
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I was one of the unlucky ones that had a 16GB get ruined. But i know it was my fault. i didnt odin the original leak i went from com rom to nameless and it botched my card. But i am lucky i had my POS BB Storm 2's 16gb. I also went and got a $10 4gb card that i now use when testing out the GB roms [better safe than sorry]
I will try that with the new rom and let you know what i am getting.
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I went from stock odin to nameless and my card was eaten alive...I followed the steps exactly as listed not missing one thing. So it has nothing to do with flashing from another rom
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I went from stock odin to nameless and my card was eaten alive...I followed the steps exactly as listed not missing one thing. So it has nothing to do with flashing from another rom
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So, immediately upon flashing the sd card was corrupted?
It'd be nice if there was more cooperation among everyone to figure out the common problem. It seems like for all the trouble reports, there are as many or more of us with no issues. I can't see anything in logs that would tip off a problem, so it needs to be someone who has the issue.
I'm still leaning towards it being a recovery issue. It's odd that some people are saying the files still appear on the sd when viewed through the CWM interface.
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Man, that would be awful if the CWM we were told to use is what is killing the SD cards, and a diffr version would have worked :O
I used the CWM linked in the nameless thread and no issue so far, but only 2 days so far.
Whether rom&kernel I used I always have lag on phone while the graphic chip is being used, for example in YouTube application when the video started it becomes too laggy and when I paused or stopped it becomes normal, and when i opened a game when i turn off the screen the crt animation becomes too laggy, too, and in bencmarkes my 3d points lower than other Evos, what do you think the problem is and how to solve it?
Not a gpu issue. What CPU gov r u using. When I use interactive it just stays at the minimum so it could be that
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Not a gpu issue. What CPU gov r u using. When I use interactive it just stays at the minimum so it could be that
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No, I've tried every kind of governor even the performance governor its the same. And its not the interactive governor which stays minimum, its powersave governor.
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No, I've tried every kind of governor even the performance governor its the same. And its not the interactive governor which stays minimum, its powersave governor.
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Seems as if you've tried many different troubleshooting options and still are experiecing this issue. I haven't seen many reports of it and it does seem very odd.
If this option is possible, I would load 100% stock software back on the device and see how it operates. If it is still really slow, there might simply be something internally wrong with the hardware and I would look into returning/exchanging.
I'm on 100% stock and have been since June '11. I've never seen any lag during the screen off CRT animation. Lag at that point seems awfully odd unless you're in the middle of some type of graphics/cpu intensive program .. even then .. I would have a hard time seeing consistent lag at that point to be legitmate behavior.
Hope that helps!
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Seems as if you've tried many different troubleshooting options and still are experiecing this issue. I haven't seen many reports of it and it does seem very odd.
If this option is possible, I would load 100% stock software back on the device and see how it operates. If it is still really slow, there might simply be something internally wrong with the hardware and I would look into returning/exchanging.
I'm on 100% stock and have been since June '11. I've never seen any lag during the screen off CRT animation. Lag at that point seems awfully odd unless you're in the middle of some type of graphics/cpu intensive program .. even then .. I would have a hard time seeing consistent lag at that point to be legitmate behavior.
Hope that helps!
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Thanks for your answer, I've tried stock Europe RUU and its the same and i don't have guarantee to exchange what to do now?
And I remember, I wasn't having these issues before, after trying too much ROM and kernel it happened, I always wipe everything before installing a rom, but do we have a full cleaner, kernel cleaner eg.?
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Thanks for your answer, I've tried stock Europe RUU and its the same and i don't have guarantee to exchange what to do now?
And I remember, I wasn't having these issues before, after trying too much ROM and kernel it happened, I always wipe everything before installing a rom, but do we have a full cleaner, kernel cleaner eg.?
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Using the real RUU will restore all stock partitions with the stock images.
I suppose, if you wanted to go the extra mile, boot into the custom recovery and format each partition, then run the RUU, but don't think I've ever heard of people doing that before an RUU so not positive if there would be any adverse side effects.
If you're on the stock RUU and experiecing issues, it would seem hardware related in my opinion as I'm on stock and have rarely seen those issues.
The only other thought which comes to mind is sometimes when people overclock they perhaps allow the device to become "too hot" and I suppose this could cause some minor but permanent damage.
Another thought, I know in my EVO last year, had a bright spot appear on the screen from "over heating" although I never overclocked, it was essentially a design flaw many experienced.
The only other suggestions I can think of would be to back to stock, knowing you've cleared all custom software off and perhaps load a basic kernel which supports voltage/speed adjustments and see if tweaking any of those help with the graphics lag.
Good luck!
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Using the real RUU will restore all stock partitions with the stock images.
I suppose, if you wanted to go the extra mile, boot into the custom recovery and format each partition, then run the RUU, but don't think I've ever heard of people doing that before an RUU so not positive if there would be any adverse side effects.
If you're on the stock RUU and experiecing issues, it would seem hardware related in my opinion as I'm on stock and have rarely seen those issues.
The only other thought which comes to mind is sometimes when people overclock they perhaps allow the device to become "too hot" and I suppose this could cause some minor but permanent damage.
Another thought, I know in my EVO last year, had a bright spot appear on the screen from "over heating" although I never overclocked, it was essentially a design flaw many experienced.
The only other suggestions I can think of would be to back to stock, knowing you've cleared all custom software off and perhaps load a basic kernel which supports voltage/speed adjustments and see if tweaking any of those help with the graphics lag.
Good luck!
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Thank you again I've started to think of a hardware problem cause I used overclock kernels such as unity v2 and leedroid kernel and i oc'd to max and used and I think these kernels oc'd gpu, too, but I never oc'd gpu and the problem is always the same and I'll try to format every partition as you said cause whether I wiped It's not getting completely formatted and from last format some of my bookmarks was left?
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Thank you again I've started to think of a hardware problem cause I used overclock kernels such as unity v2 and leedroid kernel and i oc'd to max and used and I think these kernels oc'd gpu, too, but I never oc'd gpu and the problem is always the same and I'll try to format every partition as you said cause whether I wiped It's not getting completely formatted and from last format some of my bookmarks was left?
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Great point, I actually had forgot about the sdcard. Some bookmarks are stored on the sdcard!
I wouldn't think any important settings are stored on the sdcard, but if you wanted to be even more thorough, you could backup all your sdcard contents to your desktop and format your sdcard.
That should ensure no settings remain after running the RUU.
So many details to remember! Hope that helps!
joeykrim said:
Great point, I actually had forgot about the sdcard. Some bookmarks are stored on the sdcard!
I wouldn't think any important settings are stored on the sdcard, but if you wanted to be even more thorough, you could backup all your sdcard contents to your desktop and format your sdcard.
That should ensure no settings remain after running the RUU.
So many details to remember! Hope that helps!
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Ooohh yeah I took a point! I've tried other browsers, and now I'm using dolphin, and while I'm using maxthon browser I played 1080p video and I've turned off and on screen without any lag! But if I use YouTube application, or play video from the phone with its own player or es video player it lags, and in games lag has gone too, its getting interesting every time
Aha I've got one more point too! I used MX player and when in hardware mod the lag happens, but if i choose software mod, the lag goes away!
Im running a fascinate with cm10 nightly, stock kernel. I was hoping to overclock cpu to 1200 mhz, and I can't figure out a way to do it. I tried changing the gorverner, but they're all capped at 1000 mhz. What can I do?
Lootzifer said:
Im running a fascinate with cm10 nightly, stock kernel. I was hoping to overclock cpu to 1200 mhz, and I can't figure out a way to do it. I tried changing the gorverner, but they're all capped at 1000 mhz. What can I do?
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You need a kernel that is capable of overclocking. If you look through the Development thread, you can find one to do so.
Lootzifer said:
Im running a fascinate with cm10 nightly, stock kernel. I was hoping to overclock cpu to 1200 mhz, and I can't figure out a way to do it. I tried changing the gorverner, but they're all capped at 1000 mhz. What can I do?
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youll wanna find the devil kernel in development
Lootzifer said:
Im running a fascinate with cm10 nightly, stock kernel. I was hoping to overclock cpu to 1200 mhz, and I can't figure out a way to do it. I tried changing the gorverner, but they're all capped at 1000 mhz. What can I do?
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download devil 1.6.1 for fascinate
Newest is 1.7.4 actually, get it from http://rootaxbox.no-ip.org/derteufel/Helly_Bean/kernel/
Crawshayi said:
Newest is 1.7.4 actually, get it from http://rootaxbox.no-ip.org/derteufel/Helly_Bean/kernel/
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Yeah, but at the time I didn't realize he made a new folder for 1.7., so I looked but all I found was 1.6.1.. but at least, 1.6.1 won't screw your Rom if you have an old partition (current being nightly cm10)--I learned that the hard way.
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Actually 1.6.1 was for the newer partition layout I think the last one he made for the old one was 1.5.4 or something. Anyway, he just released 1.7.5 last night, grab it from http://rootaxbox.no-ip.org/derteufel/jellybean/175/ :good::good:
im using the 1.7.5 release on LagFree
i dont want to overclock it tho because idk if it would mess up my phone .
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Actually 1.6.1 was for the newer partition layout I think the last one he made for the old one was 1.5.4 or something. Anyway, he just released 1.7.5 last night, grab it from http://rootaxbox.no-ip.org/derteufel/jellybean/175/ :good::good:
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[er, I kinda meant to say "if you have the new partition layout," not old..]
but well...... :S I was right and wrong, because the old partition layout [with /datadata] is technically the "old" layout [the one that everybody always had], until for some reason they decided to move it around, so that you only had 400MB for apps, which I quickly ran out of after restoring my TiBu apps...and then they finally came around and put /datdata back, so theoretically it's the "new" layout, but..well yeah, hopefully you know what I mean.
mvmacd said:
[er, I kinda meant to say "if you have the new partition layout," not old..]
but well...... :S I was right and wrong, because the old partition layout [with /datadata] is technically the "old" layout [the one that everybody always had], until for some reason they decided to move it around, so that you only had 400MB for apps, which I quickly ran out of after restoring my TiBu apps...and then they finally came around and put /datdata back, so theoretically it's the "new" layout, but..well yeah, hopefully you know what I mean.
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The reason it was moved around and suddenly you only had around 400MB was because the Fassy has 2 chips, 1 is fast as hell and the other is slow. Problem was, the fast chip only had so much storage space, so that was the trade off, good performance but poor storage space. For the newest layout, Jt didn't simply just 'put back' /datadata, the new layout actually is a completely new arrangement that gives us the fast speed AND storage space. If you want to read about it go over to the CM10 thread on Rootzwiki, Jt explained what he did. What this means in practical terms is that we now have a device with good speed and storage space that can handle the newer Android OSes :good:
whats the worst that can happen if you overclock ?
AndroidGee209 said:
whats the worst that can happen if you overclock ?
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Short term: Glitchy behavior (freezing/crashing/etc) and random reboots (this is more likely if you're doing Live OC versus just bumping up your CPU MHz)
Long term: Shortened device lifetime due to component stress; in other words if you plan to use your phone for a very long time don't overclock
Not all phones react the same way to overclocking, you might not get the same results as others are. For example, a lot of people seem to have good luck with 110% Live OC, however I can only get 105% on my phone before it becomes unstable.
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The reason it was moved around and suddenly you only had around 400MB was because the Fassy has 2 chips, 1 is fast as hell and the other is slow. Problem was, the fast chip only had so much storage space, so that was the trade off, good performance but poor storage space. For the newest layout, Jt didn't simply just 'put back' /datadata, the new layout actually is a completely new arrangement that gives us the fast speed AND storage space. If you want to read about it go over to the CM10 thread on Rootzwiki, Jt explained what he did. What this means in practical terms is that we now have a device with good speed and storage space that can handle the newer Android OSes :good:
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Exactly
AndroidGee209 said:
whats the worst that can happen if you overclock ?
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You remember that Mayan end of the World thing...
Crawshayi said:
Short term: Glitchy behavior (freezing/crashing/etc) and random reboots (this is more likely if you're doing Live OC versus just bumping up your CPU MHz)
Long term: Shortened device lifetime due to component stress; in other words if you plan to use your phone for a very long time don't overclock
Not all phones react the same way to overclocking, you might not get the same results as others are. For example, a lot of people seem to have good luck with 110% Live OC, however I can only get 105% on my phone before it becomes unstable.
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Again, exactly...
Yep I accidently at my OC too high once and I got an immediate reboot, setting itself back to std
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