I installed Bionic rom today. I know the phone has 16gb of memory. After install i have 12GB total, and 6GB available. What occupies the rest of 6gb? Is that rom that heavy? I am new so forgive my question.
The rom doesn't take up any storage room room as it's stored in a portion of the internal nand that's not counted. Besides, the rom is only a couple hundred megs large.
2 gigs is used for apps storage, the rest is internal storage (basically you can think of it like an internal sd card). Some space is lost due to file system overhead which you really can't do anything about.
As for where the 6 gigs went, if you were making nandroid backups, you should know they are quite large and can easily eat up a lot of space. If that is the case, delete some of the unimportant backups.
Another option you have, backup the contents of your internal sd card, then format it from the phones options menu. Copy back anything you need. Ensure you at least copy back the update.zip used by rom manager.
thank you.
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So, I'm using Titanium Backup on my Photon and I took my 16GB sdcard from my evo and stuck it straight in my new Photon. As I'm looking at the home screen in TB, I notice 4 different partitions: System ROM (500MB), Internal (3.17GB), SD Card (9.56GB), and Ext. SD Card (15.9GB) {storage sizes are total, not available}.
A couple things stand out here. Firstly, I thought internal storage was 16GB...there is nowhere close to that amount in total (although in storage settings it says 8GB total). Secondly, because of the two partitions in the sdcard, I am limited in my storage. When I use root explorer (yes I am rooted), I have files stored in each of the two partitions which sometime prohibits some files, esp video files from showing up in my gallery.
Now, I have removed my sdcard, transferred all files to my computer, replaced it in the phone, and "formatted" it in the phone's menu, put the files back on it, then replaced it back in the phone. I figured this wouldn't do much since it's due to partitions but it was worth a shot.
Q: Can anybody help me determine how to free up the most space on my sdcard to be used for all files? Should I get rid of the sdcard-ext partition (that's how it shows up in root explorer)? Any help would be greatly appreciated as well as some clarification on how these partions are actually influencing the Photon ( I am aware that ext partitions are used mainly for A2SD but is it necessary in this case to have that partion?)
Its 16gb internal memory. Webtop takes up 3 gigs and there are 8 (I think) partitions total. That add up to the 16
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1. I'm a little confused about the phone's memory..
So there is the SD card, and there is the 10gb memory.
If I use clockwork recovery.. and perform a full wipe/reset/factory, does everything in the 10gb internal memory card get deleted?
Or can I keep files in it?
2. Shouldn't we have a question forum about now??
I mean.. its about time.. more and more people are getting the phone everyday.. come on..
AFAIK there are two SD Cards, one come pre-installed from HTC which gave us 10Gb after reverse some 6Gb for the phone/system and the phone identified it as SDCard. The second one will be add-on as per user's option and the phone will identified it as SDCard2 or Ext_Sd card
Perform a full wipe/reset/factory will not delete your files on that 10Gb SDCard and/or the ext-sdcard that you may have had put in
Others may know better and may corrected me if I'm wrong
xologist said:
1. I'm a little confused about the phone's memory..
So there is the SD card, and there is the 10gb memory.
If I use clockwork recovery.. and perform a full wipe/reset/factory, does everything in the 10gb internal memory card get deleted?
Or can I keep files in it?
2. Shouldn't we have a question forum about now??
I mean.. its about time.. more and more people are getting the phone everyday.. come on..
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Your phone has 16 gigs of memory (when they say 16 its usually truly about 14 gigs), about 2 are allocated for installing programs, however their data can be allocated to other places such as the external SD or internal SD. For example if you install a game with a big data file such as asphalt 6 the main program is installed in the 2 gig part, most programs should be more that a few kilobytes to 10-20 megs max. Their data however can be installed onto the SD card if the program allows it. If you have root, you can force even programs that do not allow SD card allocation to be installed on to the SD card, but this may ending up messing up the program...for example if you install a widget onto the sd card it will stop working. It needs to be in that 2 gig partition
older phones like the Nexus one only had about 256 megs of free space for programs, so such things as sd ext. partitions were made in the external SD cards to make the program and phone think that this is an extention/part of that 256 partition that can be used as programs thereby increasing space to install programs.
-External SD, is an SD card you put in your phone
-Internal SD is a partition of that 16 gigs and is allocated to save things on such as videos, music etc. the
-sd ext partition is a partition that you could make on an SD card to think that it is where the programs can be installed and used (not their data, just the main program itself, problem with this is if you're using a slow SD card, some programs can have lag) in our amaze since we have 2 gigs to store programs, there is little worry about running out of space, unless you're insalling like 500 programs...then you could partition your sd card to be sd ext
there are sd ext1, sd ext2, sd ext3 and sd ext4 that I know of...To learn more about those search on google. I forget exactly what the differences are, and not all roms/phones are compatible with all the sd ext types.
hope I didn't confuse you.
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antiquezip said:
AFAIK there are two SD Cards, one come pre-installed from HTC which gave us 10Gb after reverse some 6Gb for the phone/system and the phone identified it as SDCard. The second one will be add-on as per user's option and the phone will identified it as SDCard2 or Ext_Sd card
Perform a full wipe/reset/factory will not delete your files on that 10Gb SDCard and/or the ext-sdcard that you may have had put in
Others may know better and may corrected me if I'm wrong
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not true, performing factory reset from settings menu, gives you the option of deleting both internal and external sd, you MUST uncheck those boxes if you wish to have those data remain intact and not deleted.
dude thanks.. but that was a huge long explanation..
I sort of knew that.. im no noob, but you can post that on General.. I'm sure it would answer a lot of noobish questions..
Im just asking if the non user SD gets deleted.. I come from another phone which the only SD was the one you put in..
So this whole thing of 2 memories (inside and outside) is confusing to me..
So just to be clear, with a wipe.. does the internal SD get erased, yes, or no?
(and thanks.. i thanked u both)
Will it considered abusing the thanks button if I thank you for thanked me (j/k)
If you use clockwork recovery, 10GB internal space is untouched unless you want to format them. Full/Factory wipe deletes the internal SD space of user data and apps.
I usually keep my personal files during full/factory/reset while I need to do flashing.
But no one knows It's always better to backup any important files
xologist said:
dude thanks.. but that was a huge long explanation..
I sort of knew that.. im no noob, but you can post that on General.. I'm sure it would answer a lot of noobish questions..
Im just asking if the non user SD gets deleted.. I come from another phone which the only SD was the one you put in..
So this whole thing of 2 memories (inside and outside) is confusing to me..
So just to be clear, with a wipe.. does the internal SD get erased, yes, or no?
(and thanks.. i thanked u both)
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if you go under settings > storage . and scroll to the bottom click factory data reset, gives you two options. make sure the one that says erase all data is not checked...if you don't have an external sd "erase sd card" is grayed out, if you do make sure that one is unchecked as well...if you check those.
Erase all data deletes internal SD.
Erase SD card deletes External SD.
does that help?
I believe if you do it from custom recovery it will not delete any of the internal or external. but check with binary again.
I asked this question in the Samsung note forum but didnt get a response so I was hoping I would have more luck here...
Was just reviewing what is using up my storage space on my internal memory card using DiskUsage and the majority of it is System Data. I thought that the reason that Samsung reserved about 5-6GB of the internal storage was for all of the operating system and any future add ons they wish to add etc. If that is that case, what is the system data that is using 3.5GB of the remaining 10GB of available internal storage on my device?
Not been able to find a clear answer on this.
There are lot of answers saying something to the effect of "durrrr, its your system data, of course its going to take up space otherwise you wont be able to use your android device". But clearly the OS is reserved in a seperate partition of the internal SD. As well as this many people have shown that there System data is in the MBs no GBs. As such I still haven't gotten any closer to figuring out what my System Data is and how I go about reducing it.
My device has 16gb internal storage and 64gb micro SD. I use FolderMount and have about 25-30GB of apps installed. I thought this may be whats driving the large System Data usage but I dont know why.
Sorry for such an elementary question. How can i tell what is taking up all of my internal memory. When i use es file explorer and analyze the internal storage. Twrp is the biggest file @ 5 gigs next is android @ 1 gig. Ive got no storage space left and i dont know what to delete.
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Sorry for such an elementary question. How can i tell what is taking up all of my internal memory. When i use es file explorer and analyze the internal storage. Twrp is the biggest file @ 5 gigs next is android @ 1 gig. Ive got no storage space left and i dont know what to delete.
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This is your internal storage, yes? That twrp is your recovery made backups. You could move it to external storage, or make a new one in ext storage and delete it.
First things first: TWRP and Android aren't files, they're folders, each of which contains multiple files and folders within it.
Nandroid backups are very large. I generally keep only the latest two on my phone (on an external SD card), and copy all the older ones to a PC.
Android has a subfolder called data, which contains all the data stored by [some of] your apps. Depending on the app and what it does, that could be a lot of data.
I was looking up the release notes for the new version of TWRP, version 3.1.0.0, and noticed that one of the changes listed was:
better indicate to users that internal storage is not backed up (Dees_Troy)
I am confused, I thought if you checked every partition when backing up, it basically backs up your entire NAND? If not, then what is the data partition for if that's not my internal memory? Since my backup was around 22-23 or so gigs uncompressed, and my phone is a total of 32 gigs with about 8 free, I assumed it was just backing up everything.
If not, then what is on this partition that TWRP won't be backing up? My application's settings/data and any personal files are what I care about, and I assume those are in the internal storage? Or are they in the data partition?
Do I have to use something else to backup my internal storage then? Is there any reason TWRP won't (or just can't) backup internal storage?
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I was looking up the release notes for the new version of TWRP, version 3.1.0.0, and noticed that one of the changes listed was:
better indicate to users that internal storage is not backed up (Dees_Troy)
I am confused, I thought if you checked every partition when backing up, it basically backs up your entire NAND? If not, then what is the data partition for if that's not my internal memory? Since my backup was around 22-23 or so gigs uncompressed, and my phone is a total of 32 gigs with about 8 free, I assumed it was just backing up everything.
If not, then what is on this partition that TWRP won't be backing up? My application's settings/data and any personal files are what I care about, and I assume those are in the internal storage? Or are they in the data partition?
Do I have to use something else to backup my internal storage then? Is there any reason TWRP won't (or just can't) backup internal storage?
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Hi
Internal storage won't be backed up, TWRP can backup (system, data, cache, boot, preload, efs) partitions to the Internal storage or the external storage, so the internal storage is the PATH of the backup, not a part of the backup, to backup the internal storage, you simply copy the files from the phone to your PC or your Laptop through MTP
Apps and OS and apps' data(except for files in /android) is available in System and data partition
Photos, videos, music other personal files you download or copy from pc to your phone is in the internal storage.
Regards Migo
I'm still a little confused about a few things.
1. If it doesn't back up my internal storage, then why are backups nearly the entire size of my used up memory anyway?
2. Kinda unclear what is on internal storage then if my app data isn't on there, especially since I use a SDcard for my camera.
3. Is there any technical, legal, or other reason why TWRP can't backup internal storage if you are backing up to external storage? I can understand if you are backing up to internal, but not to external.
4. So then if my internal storage just the fake "sdcard" folder that just links back to my internal storage? (Damn do I hate that thing, I have several apps that downloaded hundreds of megs to several GIGS of data that they assumed was external storage, but it was really the emulated internal). If so, what would be a good way to created synced backups? Just simply copying the "sdcard" folder doesn't really help keep files in sync (especially ones deleted since the last backup) nor compresses them.