So, I'm using Titanium Backup on my Photon and I took my 16GB sdcard from my evo and stuck it straight in my new Photon. As I'm looking at the home screen in TB, I notice 4 different partitions: System ROM (500MB), Internal (3.17GB), SD Card (9.56GB), and Ext. SD Card (15.9GB) {storage sizes are total, not available}.
A couple things stand out here. Firstly, I thought internal storage was 16GB...there is nowhere close to that amount in total (although in storage settings it says 8GB total). Secondly, because of the two partitions in the sdcard, I am limited in my storage. When I use root explorer (yes I am rooted), I have files stored in each of the two partitions which sometime prohibits some files, esp video files from showing up in my gallery.
Now, I have removed my sdcard, transferred all files to my computer, replaced it in the phone, and "formatted" it in the phone's menu, put the files back on it, then replaced it back in the phone. I figured this wouldn't do much since it's due to partitions but it was worth a shot.
Q: Can anybody help me determine how to free up the most space on my sdcard to be used for all files? Should I get rid of the sdcard-ext partition (that's how it shows up in root explorer)? Any help would be greatly appreciated as well as some clarification on how these partions are actually influencing the Photon ( I am aware that ext partitions are used mainly for A2SD but is it necessary in this case to have that partion?)
Its 16gb internal memory. Webtop takes up 3 gigs and there are 8 (I think) partitions total. That add up to the 16
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I installed Bionic rom today. I know the phone has 16gb of memory. After install i have 12GB total, and 6GB available. What occupies the rest of 6gb? Is that rom that heavy? I am new so forgive my question.
The rom doesn't take up any storage room room as it's stored in a portion of the internal nand that's not counted. Besides, the rom is only a couple hundred megs large.
2 gigs is used for apps storage, the rest is internal storage (basically you can think of it like an internal sd card). Some space is lost due to file system overhead which you really can't do anything about.
As for where the 6 gigs went, if you were making nandroid backups, you should know they are quite large and can easily eat up a lot of space. If that is the case, delete some of the unimportant backups.
Another option you have, backup the contents of your internal sd card, then format it from the phones options menu. Copy back anything you need. Ensure you at least copy back the update.zip used by rom manager.
thank you.
Do I lost all my data on sdcard?
ES Explorer shown me the message no sdcard mountet.
I remount the sdcard in the Settings.
Now the Partition ist only 11.5GB (in Titanium Backup)
In ES Explorer the message is not shown again, but my old folders are gone.
Can someone explaine what's going on with my Atrix?
(Sorry 4 my bad english)
try putting the sd card into your computer and checking it out.
Are you sure you're checking /sdcard-ext/ (EXTERNAL CARD) or /sdcard/ (INTERNAL MEMORY)? Because mostly apps show internal memory as sdcard; and ~11.5GB free for internal is OK.
fernandodistinto said:
Are you sure you're checking /sdcard-ext/ (EXTERNAL CARD) or /sdcard/ (INTERNAL MEMORY)? Because mostly apps show internal memory as sdcard; and ~11.5GB free for internal is OK.
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It is the internal sdcard, shows me 11.4 from 11.5 free and all my data are lost. 20 folders which i can't see.
Should be 15.x total
There is internal storage which the phone considers an SC card, and then there is external storage which is the card you put in. The phone partitions the internal storage and uses bits for various things. part is for webtop, part is for apps, part is for storage. 11.x gigs on the internal is normal.
the data you claim to have lost, was it on the card you put in the phone yourself? if so it's probably still there, you just need to look at the external card.
I believe the AT&T phones show the internal sdcard as having 10.7GB free after a clean sbf flash. Mine does, and I know other people have reported the same number. Obviously this number will vary slightly by carrier, but not too much I would think.
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There is internal storage which the phone considers an SC card, and then there is external storage which is the card you put in. The phone partitions the internal storage and uses bits for various things. part is for webtop, part is for apps, part is for storage. 11.x gigs on the internal is normal.
the data you claim to have lost, was it on the card you put in the phone yourself? if so it's probably still there, you just need to look at the external card.
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No it is not on the external ;-( ... i had 3gb sound ob the internal, but I can't see them anymore ;-) and I dis not format something.... sdcard is mounted and estrongs explorer says:no sdcard mounted... whats wrong with my internal space, there must be a bug
yeah i have the same problem lol
Internal: 2.11GB, SDcard:11.5, Ext. SDcard: 3.95
I know flashed the gingerblur 4.5.
Titanium Backup shows me now the following:
System ROM: 335 MB (121MB free) --> what partition is that?
Internal : 2.11GB (1.55GB free)
SD card: 11.5GB (11.4GB free)
Ext. SD card 3.95GB (3.86GB free)
total internal should be 16GB, but its only 13.61GB ...
Can someone explain me, how I get my holiday photos and my sound files back? all my folders were deleted, but i didn`t formatted anything...
Please help me to get my holiday pics back...
did you guys use gingerbreak?....
crnkoj said:
did you guys use gingerbreak?....
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LOL. You mean they were supposed to actually read those warnings? Too much credit there
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I had a similar problem as well. I lost all my data in my ext sd card. Prior to that there were a couple of times where the sdcard and ext sd card didnt mount properly.
I tried to recover but to no avail. I now try not to transfer via the usb cable to minimize unmounting.
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no gingerbreak
Pirateghost said:
LOL. You mean they were supposed to actually read those warnings? Too much credit there
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No gingerbreak.
Is there a way to restore the pics?
Hi guys. I received my DX2 as an upgrade from the DX. Now I have sdcard and sdcard-ext. This is really throwing my app setting into disarray. For example: when I attempt to do a backup of my go launcher ex settings it will backup into sdcard-ext (i believe) but when I try to restore it will only do so from an older backup from sd card. How can I bring order to this??
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Hi guys. I received my DX2 as an upgrade from the DX. Now I have sdcard and sdcard-ext. This is really throwing my app setting into disarray. For example: when I attempt to do a backup of my go launcher ex settings it will backup into sdcard-ext (i believe) but when I try to restore it will only do so from an older backup from sd card. How can I bring order to this??
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The Big problem is MOTO calls both internal storage & externel
storage sdcard. (sdcard& sdcard-ext)Then throw in a CD-rom
partition (part of internal storage) & and you have a perfect
storm leading to lots of confusion.
Our phone has the following, according to VZW and Moto:
- 8GB of internal storage. This breaks down as 2 GB secure memory and 6 GB of usable memory.
- 8GB of external storage which refers to the removable SD card behind the battery.
In the 2 GB lives the Android system files and installed applications with most of their associated data. Some programs are accustomed to using the "sd card" which I will get back to in a minute. You can look at the status of this 2 GB in 2 different ways: 1. Settings - Storage - Application storage, "Available Space"; 2. Settings - Applications - Storage Use - All - Application Storage (on the bottom of the screen).
The 6 GB can be viewed by: 1. Settings - Storage - Internal Storage; 2. Settings - Applications - Storage Use - Media Area.
When you move things to the Media area, you are taking a portion of the installed app from the 2GB and moving it to the 6GB, which is similar to the way in tho older phones, you moved apps to the SD card. So, the question is why do we move apps to the SD card? In older phones there was far less "internal storage" and you would literally run low on memory for apps. New phones have much more space, so unless you are installing lots and lots of apps, it shouldn't be a problem.
With our phone, they have included internal, hard wired, SD Card-like storage, which can be used, mounted/unmounted, just like an external SD Card. The Media Area is simply a folder on this remaining 6 GB area. In some cases, this is automatically done by some apps, for backup purposes or caches.
Hope this helps
The issue is that since I'm using the SD card that I used for my droid x I seem to have 2 partitions on it. One that was created by the DX2. Now half my apps think that the old dx partition is where they should put data. So how can I merge the two so that my entire SD card is 1 entity?
So my setup is currently
internal 2gb/internal storage/sd card (dx)/sd ext (dx2)
corz123
I would just connect phone to computer copy
everything from sd-card to computer.
Then delete, format sd-card, copy
everything you need back to sd-card.
Hope This Helps
hi that sounds like a good idea. so if I do that will it be formatted as sd or sdext? i read some threads that mentioned that if its sdext (dx2) that some apps wont be able to detect it or save settings.
also i'm using a rom (eclipse) does that make a difference?
corz123,
It will be the ext sd-card. Motorola calls the Internal storage
sd-card and the removeable 8gb card ext sd-card confusing I know.
(See my previous post)
You should avoid loading programs on removeable sd-card (ext sd-card)
I only put picture's, movie's, music, and doc's etc on removeable sd-card.
Most program's won't work very well or not at all when loaded on ext
sd-card.
Hope this Helps.
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did motorola change their setup? I had a droid x and i don't believe the used the sd-ext convention.
corz123,
Get a file manager if you don't already have one
such as Astro, ES File Explorer, or Root Explorer if your rooted . Open
whichever one you have or acquire and U will see sdcard sdcard-ext.
Ok see you later
I went into root explorer.
I went into /mnt/
And I noticed there's two options....
/Extsdcard and /sdcard
Seems like all my downloads, music, and everything is getting saved to /sdcard
What does this mean?
P.s. I have a 64gb micro sdcard card.
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your extsdcard is your external one in your phone you can remove. i would recomend saving most your files like your music and such to that. sdcard is your internal memory of your phone. you have less space there and should save it for more important things. hope that helped
It means everything is being saved to your Internal Storage. I haven't quite figured out how to default everything to the ExtSdcard yet. I know the camera can. The phone will read everything from the ExtSdcard fine though, such as music and other files.
The ext sd card can be used for the camera/video, CWM backups, music files you copy from your computer, and you can move most any files there that you download.
The internal sd card will be used for all of your apps, there's no way to 'move to sd card', you just have the full 16/32gb internal sd for all of it. Since you will always be forced to use the internal sd card for all app needs, I just try to keep everything on my ext sd card I can (my cwm backups are 1.7gb!). Not that it really matters for me though, I downloaded every app I ever use and a few games and only hit 1.2gb used on my internal sd card.
You can also go to th advanced tab within the stock browser and select memory card for default storage. I am guessing that is ext SD as the other option is "Phone".
Thanks for the information!
This was quite confusing at first. Time to start moving files
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permanent fix for this?
My issue is that everything defaults to the /sdcard (internal partition - i'm calling it that for ease of terminology) and some apps just don't give you another option of where to save the media to (or don't let you browse over to the right thing). as it stands, the phone seems to be mounting that internal /sdcard partition as if it were external media, ie in android's default location for external media. thus, apps are looking ofr the REAL SD card and think they've found it but they haven't.
the reason this is a problem for me is 1. i have to change this in every app that allows me to, and 2. CWM sends backups to the internal one automatically and i can't change it and have to manually move the backup images to my external.
the reason i'm going into all of this is i'd like to find a way to entirely get rid of the /sdcard folder representing the internal memory and have the external card take its place. I'd like the rest of my 29ish GB of internal storage to be part of the system partition - where apps go, etc. it's not that i want to use that space, it's that i want to "move to SD" to the right SD. i just don't want the apps and system to treat ANY internal space as if it were external or mounted or anything of the sort.
my last phone, Atrix 2, had like 2-4gb internal. I'm just suggesting stretching that amount all the way to 32gbs and using the SD card as an SD card.
the question, basically, is whether there is any way to make this happen? i came across a thread (google "sd card mount point modification" as i can't post external links yet) elsewhere that discusses doing this with a VTAB and was wondering if this is something that is addressing my (our?) issue, whether it's a recommended solution, and whether it would work on the S3. i'm fine following technical instructions but I have very limited knowledge of the way addressing etc. works on Android and this filesystem. any help (or a redirect to a thread where this is more appropriate to ask) would be greatly appreciated.
Does this issue persist with custom roms? Is it an Ics bug that won't let you install apps to extsdcard or a Samsung intentional crap? I know one other android phones I had I could save apps to sd card no issues.
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sabre31 said:
Does this issue persist with custom roms? Is it an Ics bug that won't let you install apps to extsdcard or a Samsung intentional crap? I know one other android phones I had I could save apps to sd card no issues.
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haven't tried any, waiting for something where key things like camera, LTE, etc all work. It's not that I can't install to extSD, it's that the default is "sdcard" (ie the internal space allocated). it's really a function of the way the system/phone allocates that extra internal space - rather than calling it "internal storage/system storage", they are calling it the "primary sd card" and the actual sd card is being called "2nd sd card". it's this treatment of the spaces by the system that i'm unhappy about, i guess.
that's a good point though, and i am hoping that a custom ROM will do this differently. will update when i find one i like
EDIT: gonna do the Task & Ktoonsez AKOP Rom this weekend, should know how the spaces are treated. again, will update.
I first saw this whole "sdcard/sdcard0" and "extsdcard" mess with the Motorola RAZR, the first Smartphone I used which had a large amount of internal memory.
Personally, I found this maddeningly annoying, many apps were confused and assumed they were installing or writing to the SD card when they were just writing to internal. The whole point of a SD card (to me at least) is to have REMOVABLE memory.
I then found out when considering the Galaxy S3 and later S4 that they also did the same, I wondered why Samsung would do such an annoying thing.
Now, I finally upgraded my three-year-old EVO 3D running Gingerbread/ICS for a M8 running KitKat.... and was even assured it didn't perform such ridiculous stupidity as mounting the internal memory as a SD card (especially when I was told the EVO 4G LTE originally did this, but got an update that actually re-partitioned the flash memory to undo that). So when I installed a filemanager to remove some junk files from the SD card, I was pretty angry to see a "sdcard0" and "extsdcard" folder, though since there wasn't much I could do about that I just ignored it for the time and tried to delete the junk files from the SD card and move some to external...... when I got my next nasty surprise.
So then, is this whole primary/sdcard0 and secondary/extsdcard thing actually something that Google is pushing/forcing rather than stupidity of manufacturers? Are they required now to emulate the internal as a sdcard on KitKat devices so Google can indulge in their anti-sd card mentality and force people to use their cloud storage while turning Android into iPhone provide security and make Android less complicated because clearly Android is insecure and confusing to use and this isn't a coverup on their part? Or is there something in Android's design that prevents just having the 32 GIGS of internal memory (minus whatever is partitioned off to the system, boot, cache, etc) as one large chunk of internal and not emulate a SD card? Especially since their silly restrictions in KitKat only effect "secondary" memory and technically would not effect the SD card if there was no emulated one taking it's place as primary? (funny how this whole clutter and security issue isn't applying to internal memory, there it would be an even bigger problem...)
Or are manufacturers doing this anyway (the whole making the actual physical sdcard a secondary storage and tricking apps into thinking the internal memory is a sd card so they install and write to there when you tell them to use external memory) based on their own mentality? If this is a requirement from Google, then how did HTC get away with actually UN-DOING this exact thing on the 4G LTE?
Again, the whole point of having apps save their data and exported settings/whatever to the sdcard is so I am not dependant on the data being locked onto the internal memory and only accessible if the phone wants me to access it and is working. Even the downloads folder is on the internal, which some of my apps by default export saved settings to, and I cannot move it or even any of the files in it to the external sdcard because of the changes in KitKat, which is kinda the entire $#^^$^#^&#$^^$ point of exporting your saved settings.