At the risk of looking like a complete and total newb. (which I am). I have a question. First off this is my first smart phone, so bear with me. Im anxiously awaiting the JI6 update. Does it matter if im on wifi or 3g when the update comes my way? Also if im downloading a app or something else when the update rolls out will I still get it? What if my phone is off when its my turn, will it show up when I turn it on? I know they are probably ridiculous, but im new so be gentle. Thanks everyone.
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GreggoryD502 said:
At the risk of looking like a complete and total newb. (which I am). I have a question. First off this is my first smart phone, so bear with me. Im anxiously awaiting the JI6 update. Does it matter if im on wifi or 3g when the update comes my way? Also if im downloading a app or something else when the update rolls out will I still get it? What if my phone is off when its my turn, will it show up when I turn it on? I know they are probably ridiculous, but im new so be gentle. Thanks everyone.
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1) OTA (Over The Air) updates mean it's being done through the phone signal, wifi will not matter.
2) You will get the update no matter what; despite what you're doing. Your phone has to connect to the device manager site first anyways.
3) Your phone has to be on to receive OTA updates. How else will it know to grab the update?
4) If you don't want to wait anymore (and I can tell you can't), just go to http://tiny.cc/wvu43 and follow the instructions. Straight from Samsung site.
Thanks twoguns. Appreciate the info. Your right I dont want to wait. But unfortunately my pc is dead. Be a few weeks before I get it fixed.
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Ok so I'm pretty new to the android scene. Today I got a notice that I had a update so I unrooted because of people saying that if updating while rooted it will brick then I clicked apply update. My phone then rebooted and said up date failed. Im guessing from the lack of cell reception. Does any one know how to try again if I check for updates it says no firmware thankyou in advanced
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Ok so I'm pretty new to the android scene. Today I got a notice that I had a update so I unrooted because of people saying that if updating while rooted it will brick then I clicked apply update. My phone then rebooted and said up date failed. Im guessing from the lack of cell reception. Does any one know how to try again if I check for updates it says no firmware thankyou in advanced
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There are a couple of ways to do it,
1) force your system to check for update
2) use ODIN to manually update, you can grab the software from the development section in the bible.
ok i tried to force update but it doesnt do anything then i tried to clear the data from the Device management app and check for updates again and it says system not ready check network or sim so im guessing i should just wait it out to see if they push it again. i would rather stay away from the sdk area i just got the phone out of the black screen of death today.
I take it you can 3 finger salute your phone if needed?
I personally feel the easiest thing to do is update it through mini Kies. If you need further instructions on how to do it, let me know.
I'm gonna hold off for a week because tmobile is sending me a new phone for some other issues I'm having but how would I update through mini kies cuz the gps on this phone takes so long so when I get the new phone I'm gonna fix that
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Okay, I did some searching and I didn't really find what I needed in my circumstance. I've read the threads about unrooting my thunderbolt buy my situation is a bit more specific than the generic unrooting procedures that I've seen.
So, through some weird circumstances my thunerbolt's screen doesnt turn on anymore. It ended up being dropped about a foot and the screen just died on me. there is no physical damage to the phone (i.e. the screen isn't cracked or bleeding). I already talked to Verizon reps about it, and I might be able to turn it in for warranty replacement. (If not, I'll just have to use my upgrae ). but to turn it for warranty I will obviously have to remove root. I haven't flashed anything to my phone for about 3 or 4 months so I know I didn't kill the screen by messing something up.
Here's the catch:
-my screen is dead so i cant really see what im doing on the phone.
-for some reason my computer cant recognize my phone. it keeps telling me that "the USB evice has malfunctioned".
-my SD card still reads in my card reader on my PC.
So basically I don't really have any idea how i could possibly go about unrooting my phone. Any ideas or suggestion are welcome. Maybe a donation to the contributors that help me? If not I will sadly have to leave the realm of the thunderbolt and I will use my upgrade If needed. (I would much rather keep my Thunderbolt than have to upgrade to like the nexus or something...I dont like them....)
Thanks in advanced
Buy the thundebolt restore app from the market
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Buy the thundebolt restore app from the market
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Okay, but how can I use it with out a working screen?
thanks
That i dont know. But if the screen isnt working, why unroot?
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so that i can turn it in for a warranty claim
If it were me, I'd try the warranty route. If the screen/phone? wont turn on, how can someone tell if rooted? Worst case, you'd have to use your upgrade like you said. Hope you get it figured out, good luck
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If it were me, I'd try the warranty route. If the screen/phone? wont turn on, how can someone tell if rooted? Worst case, you'd have to use your upgrade like you said. Hope you get it figured out, good luck
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Can't they like hook it up to their computer or something like that and find that the phone is rooted?
Maybe, but didn't you say your PC doesn't recognize phone anymore? From what I've read, don't quote me on this, Big Red does not really do an in depth check before sending out for repair. Check for root, sure they do but again no screen/power, who knows then. Repair people could prolly care less. Again, nothing in stone here, just stuff I picked reading here n there.
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Yeah. I went into the store and they shipped me a new warranty replacement phone. Although they did this, I'm still a bit apprehensive about sending it back while it's still rooted. So my original request still stands: I would like to know of a possible way to unroot it.
Thanks
Here is a conversation I had over at Motorola Live Chat. Looks like If you rooted your phone your not going to get the ICS update over the air
Denz: Hi, my name is Denz. How may I help you?
ME: Oh hi
ME: I want to know what the problem is with the ICS OTA for RAZR
ME: Why havn't I recieved it?
Denz: We apologize for the inconvenience. Please allow me to assist you with that.
Denz: May I know your location?
ME: Phoenix
Denz: Please provide the serial number: Go to Settings, About Phone, Status, get the IMEI.
ME: serial number of my phone?
Denz: Yes.
ME: ***********
Denz: I will need to check some performance related information from your device will that be okay?
ME: what are you checking?
ME: Data speeds?
Denz: I will need to check the eligibility of your phone for ICS
ME: oh ok
Denz: Thanks. One moment.
Denz: Has the software been modified?
ME: Software?
Denz: The operating system. Have you "rooted" or downloaded a 3rd party OS/software/
ME: Im not very techie what do you mean?
ME: Oh I ley my brother root my phone
ME: So I can't get the OYA?
Denz: I see.
Denz: Hold on.
ME: OTA*
Denz: You still have the option the option of sending your device in and paying for a repair evaluation.The flat rate repair fee for rooted devices is currently the same as the Out Of Warranty fee That's $159 plus tax.
ME: Repair what?
ME: My phone works
Denz: Yes, the only way we could get it back to the original version so you can get the ICS update is to send the phone in.
ME: Lol how am i supposed to get phone calls from important ppl?
ME: you guys are funny
ME: Ill ask my bro what i need to do
ME: Thx for the help anyway
Denz: I understand where you're coming from. Prior to the update and since we released the phone, we had
Denz: advised phone users not to root the phone because they may not get future updates.
Denz: I'm sorry but you have the option to send it in.
ME: lol wish i got that advise. ive been getiing system updates
Denz: I mean specifically for ICS update.
ME: Thats fine no problem im sure my brother has a solutuion
Denz: Okay then. Is there anything else you need assistance with?
ME: No you have a nice day sir/ma'am
Denz: If you need any more information get in touch. Thanks from Motorola, bye!
Ignore this !!!!! I received the download and I am still rooted. Well don't ignore the fact that the Moto employee tried to sham me out of 159 bucks also ignore my bad grammer plox!
So if your phone is rooted you may or may not get the OTA ans WILL have to sideload.
It doesn't really matter if you've already side loaded now does it. Don't worry with silly moto. Just do with your phone what you wish and forget their silly nonsense. And I'm with the countless others that have stated in other threads. I believe they have some kind of tracking software that they aren't telling us about. I'm not saying its the same as carrier IQ but I'm sure its something similar.
That's crap I had my phone rooted prior to .181 and I got the ics OTA. Granted I lost root after .181 and I did a factory reset before getting .181. So that shouldn't be the problem.
My wife has a maxx and has never rooted or anything ans she still hasn't gotten ICS
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It is ofc bull****.
Well, from what I've been reading... If ur phone is rooted, you cant even side load ICS. So it would make sense that they wouldnt push the ota to a rooted device. I'm sure they have a way of knowing if ur rooted or not..
That being said... Theres always the option to flash back to stock, and wait for the ota, or side load it. I personally chose flashing stock, then side loading. I like fresh installs, especially with an upgrade this size. Less variables = lees chance for errors... but thats just me
Lol well know they have my serial number and the fact that im rooted so ill have to sideload later tonight when i have time. I also may wait a few days just to see how accurate this employees facts are.
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Well, from what I've been reading... If ur phone is rooted, you cant even side load ICS. So it would make sense that they wouldnt push the ota to a rooted device. I'm sure they have a way of knowing if ur rooted or not..
That being said... Theres always the option to flash back to stock, and wait for the ota, or side load it. I personally chose flashing stock, then side loading. I like fresh installs, especially with an upgrade this size. Less variables = lees chance for errors... but thats just me
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that is not true...i used razr utility to reverty back to stock .181 and had re-rooted it....then side loaded the official OTA .211 with razr utility 1.7 .....not a problem since !!!
just one thing i havent figured out is, how do i go back to stock .181 so i can recieve the OTA, like i said, i have had not one issue with sideloading it myself but i would still like to see the actual OTA...it would satisfy me lol
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I too was wondering. My folks got the OTA yesterday, on non-rooted MAXX's. My MAXX, rooted, has nothing.
Am I out of luck, and will I have to side-load the ICS?
I guess the question is anyone with root not in soak recieve OTA yet?
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Somebody try this again
But lie when they asknif ur rooted
Tell them its a hundred percent stock
See what they say then
I bet they have no way to tell
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Somebody try this again
But lie when they asknif ur rooted
Tell them its a hundred percent stock
See what they say then
I bet they have no way to tell
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They didn't even ask....
George: Hi, my name is George. How may I help you?
Tim Timmons: I want to know what the problem is with the ICS OTA for RAZR
Tim Timmons: I still haven't gotten it, but my folks with MAXX phones, have.
Tim Timmons: and we live in the same town
Tim Timmons: ??
George: Sorry for that wait
George: We do apologize for the inconvenience. Do not worry, we will do our best to assist you on this.
George: Let me check that for you
Tim Timmons: thanks
George: Now I need the system number of the phone just for a documentation purposes, May I have it please?
George: The system version will be Setting > About phone > System Version
Tim Timmons: XXXXXXXXXXX(IEMEI)
George: Thank you
George: I have tried to check this information in my end and I regret to say that we do not have the exact date about when will be release.however the Update is been going on at the moment. .the update will be pushed out by Motorola in batches to all users over a few week time period.So kindly wait for the notification to be send to your phone.
Tim Timmons: 6.12.181.xt912.verizon.en.us
Tim Timmons: But how is it sent - by locale, or what?
Tim Timmons: and how did you check? You asked for version info, and before I gave it to you, you had a canned response....Can you check again, please?
George: It's gonna be send randomly
George: Yes, I was able to check with my system. sorry, i only needed your system version for documentation purposes.
George: The update will randomly send by our Engineer. And it all users will receive the update batches to batches in over a few week time period.
Just went to Moto's website and did the chat with rep. They explained to me that they are still doing just the test users at this point with Verizon customers and that I will most likely be receiving it over the next couple of weeks.
The "Supervisor" I spoke with later was able to tell me that they can check via a application they have, if I am rooted, my IP, and a few other things.
And......those that are stock, rooted, will not get the OTA.
I don't know whether to wait impatiently, or attempt side-loading ICS.
I just talked to them to and the serial number some how tells them that the device has been rooted.
I even unrooted just to see.
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Well i think im just gonna sideload ot anyway. I just need to find the best barney style instructions. Im rooted, i dont use roms so im stock so i just need the best surefire way to make this happen. Sounds like to me though, moto and Verizon are punishing root users for no reason. I love moto phones but this may be my last one that i buy.
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Pretty sure I saw a few posts in the forum from people who got the update while rooted, just they lost root and rerooted.
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Well, from what I've been reading... If ur phone is rooted, you cant even side load ICS. So it would make sense that they wouldnt push the ota to a rooted device. I'm sure they have a way of knowing if ur rooted or not..
That being said... Theres always the option to flash back to stock, and wait for the ota, or side load it. I personally chose flashing stock, then side loading. I like fresh installs, especially with an upgrade this size. Less variables = lees chance for errors... but thats just me
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I'm rooted and sideloaded ics.
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cheatthepocket said:
Well i think im just gonna sideload ot anyway. I just need to find the best barney style instructions. Im rooted, i dont use roms so im stock so i just need the best surefire way to make this happen. Sounds like to me though, moto and Verizon are punishing root users for no reason. I love moto phones but this may be my last one that i buy.
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On here mickievminnie has an on device way that i used and is very straight forward. It might hang up at one or two points but then you just redo it.
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so it sounds like they can tell if your rooted and even if you unroot with voodoo ota rootkeeper they can still see that your phone is root and maybe they will not be sending out the ota to us rooted folks so maybe it is wise to unroot for a couple of days or a week just to see what happens
Okay so I'm going to Verizon to get my DNA on the 23rd so was wanting to clear up some stuff. One questions that rises up is how long before i can root? I don't mean to be rude or demand or anything but does anyone have any update of the progress on the superCID for the phones which already have OTA? I really am not in a super rush for it unless CM 10.1 gets working...but it'd just be cool to know progress status if possible.
(What is the process of getting superCID? Finding a vulnerability and change stuff? )
Another question i had was, does anyone own a Incipio DualPro case? If so, do you like it?
Last question is a little weird; however, those people who are getting amazing battery results, what is your brightness setting when you get these results? (What governor?)
Thanks for the help! Thanks to the devs and community to be awesome! hope i can help
Honestly. Since I read tthe rumors about a Verizon DNA plus,
I would wait. If a better DNA is released then I may sell mine asap to trade up. Battery is OK for me. I'm on auto brightness. I have the diztronic case. Pretty good and comfy.
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Well, i don't have a smartphone yet so i don't feel like waiting two months for a phone to upgrade to using a smartphone...
One more quick question. Can someone link me to how i can back up my phone so i can root without worries unless i brick, please? Not like a save my app info or anything, but something like full backup so i can flash my phone to restore to working state incase something goes wrong. (Is that called Nandroid back up? )
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Well, i don't have a smartphone yet so i don't feel like waiting two months for a phone to upgrade to using a smartphone...
One more quick question. Can someone link me to how i can back up my phone so i can root without worries unless i brick, please? Not like a save my app info or anything, but something like full backup so i can flash my phone to restore to working state incase something goes wrong. (Is that called Nandroid back up? )
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The only way to backup without root is through adb. Titanium backup has a good tutorial on it.
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I'm not sure if all of these have been addressed or have a direct answer, but I just wanted to compile everything into
a concise post that I can refer to.
I SHOULD be getting my DNA in the mail today and it SHOULD be fresh out of the box and I am basing the questions off
of that.
Reason for rooting is mainly for the wifi tether app, since I have unlimited data and rather use that then pay for actual service.
1.) Since it should be fresh out of the box are the chances of it being unupdated likely? If so this means I can root it, correct?
2.) I'm pretty new in the rooting field, having only recently rooted my thunderbolt. How comparable will the process be to that?
I had to backdate the software or firmware to be able to do so and am hoping since this is new it wont require that.
3.) I haven't messed with roms too much and was looking at the ViperDNA rom, what would the perks of doing this be? Cons?
I may have future questions later, but this is all I can think of atm.
Thanks ahead of time!
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I'm not sure if all of these have been addressed or have a direct answer, but I just wanted to compile everything into
a concise post that I can refer to.
I SHOULD be getting my DNA in the mail today and it SHOULD be fresh out of the box and I am basing the questions off
of that.
Reason for rooting is mainly for the wifi tether app, since I have unlimited data and rather use that then pay for actual service.
1.) Since it should be fresh out of the box are the chances of it being unupdated likely? If so this means I can root it, correct?
2.) I'm pretty new in the rooting field, having only recently rooted my thunderbolt. How comparable will the process be to that?
I had to backdate the software or firmware to be able to do so and am hoping since this is new it wont require that.
3.) I haven't messed with roms too much and was looking at the ViperDNA rom, what would the perks of doing this be? Cons?
I may have future questions later, but this is all I can think of atm.
Thanks ahead of time!
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I can almost guarantee you that the OTA will be installed on it and you will not be able to do anything with it until an exploit is found.
The root and S-off process is very easy if you are on the old firmware.
Crap, really? It's the same, power on + vol down process correct?
Even booting up the phone, this is talking if the OEM isn't updated, won't auto start the update, will it?
nived09 said:
Crap, really? It's the same, power on + vol down process correct?
Even booting up the phone, this is talking if the OEM isn't updated, won't auto start the update, will it?
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Nope. Well ya but you can decline it.
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Nope. Well ya but you can decline it.
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Well I'm hoping that it will be this way. Should definitely be getting it today and will check it out.
If I can't even root it, I don't know if I will even be activating it.
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Well I'm hoping that it will be this way. Should definitely be getting it today and will check it out.
If I can't even root it, I don't know if I will even be activating it.
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Boot it up without the sim in it. Let us know, as of last week I would have told you that it's probably not updated. But its been a few days since I've known anyone that got one new in the box.
If it's not updated and you would like me to help you pull and supercid and unlock just send me a pm. If you get offered the update you will want to defer it like 5 days I think is the most it allows.
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Boot it up without the sim in it. Let us know, as of last week I would have told you that it's probably not updated. But its been a few days since I've known anyone that got one new in the box.
If it's not updated and you would like me to help you pull and supercid and unlock just send me a pm. If you get offered the update you will want to defer it like 5 days I think is the most it allows.
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Got a few -new in box cause I convinced a few retarded reps referbs were the issue- from Verizon n one from amazon. All 2.04
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Yea, I just got it an hour or so ago and booted right into the loader and asked in the IRC and I guess the OTA
was already accepted, so I'm sol for a bit.
Not even going to bother activating it, since I mainly use root for tethering.
I picked up the DNA in San Diego from BB for an upgrade on Verizon. It came with Software 1.15.605.4 710RD. I've s-off'd, root'd & TWRP'd with ease. Now I just need CM10.1 and I'll be happy.
I might fly to France and b-slap the CEO of the company who put the DCMA in.