[Q] Bionix 1.9; GPS sees 9-12, never locks? - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've turned off use wireless networks, I've checked the GPS settings (Bionix rom has them set to default) and my GPS (using the test tool) can see 9-12 birds if I let it sit there for 30 seconds or so, but after 20 minutes of letting it sit, still doesn't lock on to ANY of them.
I'm using the stock kernel, gps used to lock (although unreliably) on the older build (whatever comes with stock...JFD I think?)

thantik said:
I've turned off use wireless networks, I've checked the GPS settings (Bionix rom has them set to default) and my GPS (using the test tool) can see 9-12 birds if I let it sit there for 30 seconds or so, but after 20 minutes of letting it sit, still doesn't lock on to ANY of them.
I'm using the stock kernel, gps used to lock (although unreliably) on the older build (whatever comes with stock...JFD I think?)
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Try sending a message to team whiskey to see if they can help you. Did you install any other updates after installing the Bionix rom and also make sure you give the stable release with fixed GPS a try.

I'm on bionix 1.8, I was outside for 45 minutes and never got a lock.ridiculous.

You guys should re flash. I've ran both 1.8 and 1.9, both lock onto 10/11 sats and 20ft accuracy in less than 15 seconds.
Sent from my SGH-T959

chichu_9 said:
Try sending a message to team whiskey to see if they can help you. Did you install any other updates after installing the Bionix rom and also make sure you give the stable release with fixed GPS a try.
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Nope; it's a fresh install of Bionix 1.9. I was thinking of doing an ODIN back to stock and then reinstalling Bionix just in case there was some remnants of a GPS fix left on the device but I figured that would have all gotten wiped by the Bionix install.

thantik said:
Nope; it's a fresh install of Bionix 1.9. I was thinking of doing an ODIN back to stock and then reinstalling Bionix just in case there was some remnants of a GPS fix left on the device but I figured that would have all gotten wiped by the Bionix install.
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Same issue here. I flashed back to JFD via Odin and still had the issue. I then upgraded to JI6 without making any real changes and still have the issue. I've been on Frankin-Twiz, and Bionix 1.8 and 1.9.1 and hadn't ever seen any improvement.
I take that back. I installed GPSTest and ran through a procedure where I cleared 'GPS Aiding Data' (or a similar name) and was finally able to get a fix after sitting and waiting for 10 mins or so. Immediately following, I was able to use Navigation for the 1st time with this phone. Unfortunately, it didn't stick.
If I have 'Use Wireless Networks' enabled under 'Location and Security' and open G-Maps as I sit at my house, it can find my location based on my wireless network's SSID. If I drive away at that point, GPS is able to track my location and Navigation does work.
However, if I open G-Maps while I'm already on the road, it cannot get a fix. Or, rather, it can't get a fix in a reasonable amount of time. I don't consider 10 mins reasonable since anything I'm trying to do which is location-sensitive is usually more urgent than not.
In short, this sucks.

^ exactly the same.

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[Q] Gps doesn't work

Hey friends.
I've tried any JK2 based rom out there (Macnut, obsidian etc')
I just can't get the gps to work.
properly, either it takes about 10 minutes to get a lock and then consistently looses the signal and have bad accuracy or it doesn't lock at all...
is there a solution?
thanks!
Have you tried to reflash? Did you start from a fresh JFD install (using ODIN)?
I know that seems to work for some people. Also, I'm going to assume that you're not running with a non-stock kernel or with a lagfix installed. Sometimes, one or both of those things will make the GPS stop working (why? I don't know).
My GPS rarely worked on JFD. Worked on JI2, slightly better than it work on JI6. On the 2.2 builds I also know from personal experience that it works on Obsidian, Onyx and Axura - at least on my phone.
I'll try to odin to stock and then flash a new rom
I hope it works...
thanks!
ohadbasan said:
I'll try to odin to stock and then flash a new rom
I hope it works...
thanks!
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I found a great solution: Download Anycut and GPS Test if you don't already have them. After long pressing on an empty home screen, choose shortcuts, then Anycut. Scroll down to LBS Test Mode and put it on a home screen. Open it up, hit delete GPS data. Then go to application settings, change "hot start" to "cold start". Go outside, open up GPS Test, if everything is good you should see satellites in view immediately. Then, be patient, you should see the in use ones gradually increase. When you get a maximum number (whatever it may be), go back into LBS Test Mode and change back to "hot start" and you should be good to go.
ohadbasan said:
Hey friends.
I've tried any JK2 based rom out there (Macnut, obsidian etc')
I just can't get the gps to work.
properly, either it takes about 10 minutes to get a lock and then consistently looses the signal and have bad accuracy or it doesn't lock at all...
is there a solution?
thanks!
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My phone's GPS does not work properly with any ROM in the site that is based on JK2, but Macnut R10.
Try Macnut R10, do not try any other version,,, just R10, go to lbstest and delete your GPS data, and get back with your results...

[Q] EB01 - My GPS isn't working, it won't lock on at all.

My GPS isn't working, it won't lock on at all. Anybody else experiencing something like this? If so, do you know a fix?
SOLUTION (Worked for me):
AlgorithmX said:
Mine did the same thing after flashing EB01 so I checked the location & security settings and found that both VZW and google location services were turned off. After turning them back on I got a lock in Gps test in less than 10 seconds.
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Well today my gps did drop Its signal for about a minute which seemed weird because there was no obstructions to block my signal
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Mine works great! I dont know if it helps buts I did a prl update, *228
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hbc.ciccone said:
Mine works great! I dont know if it helps buts I did a prl update, *228
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I tried that, didn't seem to do anything.
Did you try removing the battery? Do that, and leave it out for about 1 minute. Let it reboot and see what happens.
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alemondemon said:
My GPS isn't working, it won't lock on at all. Anybody else experiencing something like this? If so, do you know a fix?
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Mine did the same thing after flashing EB01 so I checked the location & security settings and found that both VZW and google location services were turned off. After turning them back on I got a lock in Gps test in less than 10 seconds.
Mine did that today. I rebooted and I was able to get immediate GPS lock after that.
AlgorithmX said:
Mine did the same thing after flashing EB01 so I checked the location & security settings and found that both VZW and google location services were turned off. After turning them back on I got a lock in Gps test in less than 10 seconds.
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Wow i think you are right, i never have vzw location services on but i turned it on and wallah... Ill keep testing it out to make sure.. Oh and the building im testing it in currently might as well be a bomb shelter because its a concrete and steel building, so i would say thats pretty good..
AlgorithmX said:
Mine did the same thing after flashing EB01 so I checked the location & security settings and found that both VZW and google location services were turned off. After turning them back on I got a lock in Gps test in less than 10 seconds.
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That fixed it! Thanks!!
tyler1234567 said:
Wow i think you are right, i never have vzw location services on but i turned it on and wallah... Ill keep testing it out to make sure.. Oh and the building im testing it in currently might as well be a bomb shelter because its a concrete and steel building, so i would say thats pretty good..
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That's what did it for me. It seems stand alone GPS by itself doesn't cut it anymore.
AlgorithmX said:
Mine did the same thing after flashing EB01 so I checked the location & security settings and found that both VZW and google location services were turned off. After turning them back on I got a lock in Gps test in less than 10 seconds.
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That did the trick for me as well.
I had GPS issues with EB01 too - I narrowed it down to: if I rebooted with GPS turned OFF it would never get a GPS signal if I turned on via the notification bar. If I went into Settings-->Location & Security and checked "standalone GPS services" and accepted the warning GPS then worked great, locked immediately. But if I turned it off and rebooted again the same issue would occur. I tested this with SC 2.1, SC 2.2, and the stock EB01 ROM. Same behavior every time.
It also seemed like if the phone sat overnight (no reboot) and the GPS was off it would then not see any sats until I went into Loc&Sec again and checked the box there, but I didn't do extensive testing on that.
I never keep my GPS on unless I need it, so this was a deal breaker for me, back to DL09 until the next Froyo build comes out.
notoriousB said:
I had GPS issues with EB01 too - I narrowed it down to: if I rebooted with GPS turned OFF it would never get a GPS signal if I turned on via the notification bar. If I went into Settings-->Location & Security and checked "standalone GPS services" and accepted the warning GPS then worked great, locked immediately. But if I turned it off and rebooted again the same issue would occur. I tested this with SC 2.1, SC 2.2, and the stock EB01 ROM. Same behavior every time.
It also seemed like if the phone sat overnight (no reboot) and the GPS was off it would then not see any sats until I went into Loc&Sec again and checked the box there, but I didn't do extensive testing on that.
I never keep my GPS on unless I need it, so this was a deal breaker for me, back to DL09 until the next Froyo build comes out.
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That sounds more like a confusion from the DL09 to EB01. Did you wipe your data?
yes, wiped data, cache, and dalvik cache twice each before installing each ROM I tested. Consistent across all three.
Im seeing a decrease after installing the voodoo kernel for eb01. I turned on all 3 gps providers and rebooted and it was a little better. Im just gonna give it time to work itself out.
notoriousB said:
I had GPS issues with EB01 too - I narrowed it down to: if I rebooted with GPS turned OFF it would never get a GPS signal if I turned on via the notification bar. If I went into Settings-->Location & Security and checked "standalone GPS services" and accepted the warning GPS then worked great, locked immediately. But if I turned it off and rebooted again the same issue would occur. I tested this with SC 2.1, SC 2.2, and the stock EB01 ROM. Same behavior every time.
It also seemed like if the phone sat overnight (no reboot) and the GPS was off it would then not see any sats until I went into Loc&Sec again and checked the box there, but I didn't do extensive testing on that.
I never keep my GPS on unless I need it, so this was a deal breaker for me, back to DL09 until the next Froyo build comes out.
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Thanks for your response. I recently rooted and went to EB01 SC2.2 and have been experiencing GPS issues, and started to try to figure out what makes it glitch so I can have some consistency. Have you found out anything new, or just waiting for next update?
I've noticed that I can only get a gps lock with vzw and goggle location services turned on along with the standalone gps. After rebooting, I have to go into the location settings screen and manually turn on the standalone gps if it was off already (or click it off and then on again). After that my GPS works pretty well.
What I have noticed is now all of a sudden Google Navigation will occasionally say "GPS Signal Lost" while I'm driving which never seemed to happen before prior to DL30/EB01. If I open GPS Status immediately after I hear that, half the time it's still connected to several satellites so I don't really know what the issue is there.
elguapoloco said:
Thanks for your response. I recently rooted and went to EB01 SC2.2 and have been experiencing GPS issues, and started to try to figure out what makes it glitch so I can have some consistency. Have you found out anything new, or just waiting for next update?
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No, I gave up on EB01 until the next formal update/leak is released. Between that GPS issue and the battery life seeming significantly worse in my SHORT trial of EB01 I decided to go back to DL09 and wait.
CrucialBT said:
After rebooting, I have to go into the location settings screen and manually turn on the standalone gps if it was off already (or click it off and then on again). After that my GPS works pretty well.
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Interesting, thanks for confirming that I'm not the only one who has had this same issue. Most people have just dismissed what I've reported without trying it saying "EB01 is the b3st w1nnar why do you turn off your gps that's st00pid".
iviustang50h said:
That's what did it for me. It seems stand alone GPS by itself doesn't cut it anymore.
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Its the unfortunate way AGPS works. You can download GPS status & toolbox from the market. This will (upon startup) connect and download the most recent orbital GPS data providing a fast lock.
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Two quick notes:
1) If you are running SuperClean, the VZW location services setting does absolutely nothing. It is only used by Verizon apps (i.e. VZ Navigator). Google Maps is not able to use the information obtained by VZW AGPS. The entire service has been removed from the ROM.
2) The dropdown gps button is virtually worthless right now unless you leave google location services enabled all the time. There are multiple ways to turn on the GPS through the OS code, and the current implementation causes GPS lock to take nearly a minute longer than if you were to go into the Settings menu and turn it on. At some point, someone will probably mod the drop down to emulate the same method as the settings menu.
That being said, from inside my house, with all my AGPS data cleared, on a freshly cleaned and flashed phone, I can get a fix in less than 3 seconds, accurate to 20 meters without having location services turned on, using only standalone GPS data. The trick is to turn it on from the Settings menu, not the dropdown.

[Q] 3G data connection dies after wake-up?

Is it just me or you guys have the same issue? So I am on EB01 Modem, EB01 Super Clean Rom, non voodoo. If you wake up your phone and try to access internet, like launching browser or pandora, you get disconnected from 3G for several seconds, which gives error, that connection is lost. But after having phone in awake state for several minutes, the problem disappears until next sleep.
Is that what that means. You get 3g icon with a letter d underneath it means disconnect? Or? Standby?
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Immediately after I wake up my phone, when app tries to reach Internet, I get 3G D first, then 3G icon disappears completely. App that tried to get data errors out, saying No coverage or no data. After ~30 seconds 3G icon appears again with arrows blinking and everything works fine. And data works fine until you put your phone to sleep. Then it happens again.
D = Dormant.
good day.
chopper the dog said:
D = Dormant.
good day.
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Wow, that was helpful... thanks
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I have the same type of thing happen when i try to tether my ps3. created a couple threads and searched around but could never find any answers. Even making the phone stay awake doesnt fix it.
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check you task killers and other battery optimization apps. I had Juice Defender on and it did the same thing. Uninstalled it, back to normal.
I don't have anything installed. It is like that even on clean system, after wipe. I tried the same on Rubix ROM, which I very like, and it has the same behavior. I suspect its a new modem or kernel, because changing ROM doesn't fix the issue. I going to try to flash DL09 modem for now to see if it will fix the issue.
After flashing DL09 modem issue solved! (NO ITS NOT)
For those who looking for old modems:
DJ05 modem
DL09 modem
Edit: Well... actually the issue is not solved with DL09. This morning it crashed my modem and issue is still unsolved. I flashed DJ05 modem right now. Let's see if that will help.
Edit2: No, DJ05 did not solved the issue either. So it is not Modem's fault. Any suggestions?
I let it sleep for 5 minutes, woke it up and it lost 3g connection again. So it shows 3G icon, but really it doesn't have connection. Then after ~15 seconds 3G Icon disappears like someone turned off 3G Data. After another 15-30 seconds, 3G works again, Icon appears ok, everything works. I don't know what to do.
This sucks....
Having same issue and if I download anything have to leave my screen on to finish it or I loose connection....
Well, I used ODIN to reflash to stock DI01 package. Kernel, Modem, Rom all matching and factory. I cleaned everything, did factory reset, re-programmed the phone using options 1 and 2. Then I got the Verizon update EA28 and installed it too. It installed successfully. I lost root. And guess what? That DID NOT fixed the issue. 3G connection is still shuts off for 30 seconds when I try to access Internet after I wake up the phone.
Well, I went to Verizon and they offered me a replacement. I agreed.
Any ideas why this is happening? I noticed this started to happen when I flashed EB01 modem. But I am not sure if modem is the one to blame. One of the Kernels I flashed at some point maybe? I flashed jt's Adrenalyne's kernels. Reason why I am asking is I don't want to repeat the same story with new replacement phone. Not that I am complaining here I just want to understand what caused the issue and the reason why this issue persists after I flashed phone back to stock?

[Q] Wifi Error after EB01 Froyo Upgrade

Since upgrading to the EB01 Froyo leak (debinged/deodexed) I have wifi issues where every 3 or 4 times I attempt to enable it, it will fail, and show "Error" under the Wi-Fi settings (where it ususally says in blue text "Turn on Wi-Fi", "Connecting..." "Connected to <network>", etc). I finally got the log message associated with it, and was wondering if anyone has figured out a way to address this?
From what I gather insmod is the kernel's mechanism for (in this case) loading the wifi driver, so this would be an issue with the kernel? So now what?
E/WifiHW ( 2467): return of insmod (args:firmware_path=/system/etc/wifi/bcm4329_sta.bin nvram_path=/system/etc/wifi/nvram_net.txt dhd_watchdog_ms=10 dhd_poll=1) : ret = -1, Invalid argument
At first I thought a reboot was necessary to get it to attempt to reload the driver, but I've since found clearing level 2 ram in the task manager does the trick. Still a big PIA though.
Thanks for any help.
Kidd_Funkadelic
I had the same problem until I flashed the EC10 kernel, hasn't happened since.
AlgorithmX said:
I had the same problem until I flashed the EC10 kernel, hasn't happened since.
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So, if I'm not mistaken I can just install the non-voodoo zip w/ Red CWM directly over EB01 with no wiping/cache clearing, etc, and be up and running with no data or configuration loss? Sounds like a pretty quick and easy way to fix my issue.
I haven't been following the EC10 thread, but I just took a look and looks like the static issue when the screen comes on during a call is fixed as well, the only other issue I've had.
Guess I may have to give it a shot! How long have you been using it?
KF
I've been using it for a couple days and have to say that it combined with SuperClean 2.9 has made my phone super smooth. I haven't found a single glitch so far.
Took the plunge and updated to EC10 last night. I've had only a brief time to play around with it, but so far so good with the wifi. Thanks for the help!
Could just be my mind playing tricks on me, but I could swear in general everything is more responsive as well... Not only loading apps, but when I brought up navigation this morning I've never once seen it lock on and start driving directions this fast.
Nevermind... Same problem still with EC10. Got my hopes up there for a minute.
I got the same problem with SC 2.9.2v and had with any other SC Froyo build. I'm using JuiceDefender so WiFi is turned on/off lot of times (every 15 minutes on schedule or when screen is unlocked). Usually once or twice a day I find that there is an error with WiFi and the only way to fix it is to wait couple of minutes and try turning it on manually or switch to airplane mode on/off.
I also use JuiceDefender w/ Wifi. If it doesn't occur less often with EC10 (too soon to tell still), I'll have to disable the wifi controls in JD so it's toggled on/off far less frequently.
Glad to see I'm not the only one seeing it. I bet the JD users will just notice it more since we are loading the wifi driver all the time.
Kidd_Funkadelic
And thanks for the airplane mode tip- I'll have to try that. I was clearing level 2 ram in task manager to do it. AM would be slightly more convenient.
jt1134's source build EC10 didn't help, still having same problem with WiFi. My log is showing the same thing.
At least the new kernel fixed the static issue. One thing at a time, right? I hope that this means there will be ED01 kernel drop
Actually, maybe April Fool's day is a bad choice...
What radio are you using? EB01?
Yes, I did the full Froyo update to EB01 over the stock 2.1 Verizon eclair, then installed the EC10 specifically for this issue. That's all I've done. Oh, went back into CWM after seeing the problem for a few days to clear the Dalvik cache. That's all I've done to date...
OK so it's not radio related but kernel/rom then. I'm on EA28 radio cause I had problems with missed calls with EB01.
Solutions? Bump?
Sorry for reviving this thread, but I have what I think is the same problem (on EB01).
My wifi always works after a reboot, but then if I turn it off and try and turn it back on, it gives me an error message until I either
A) reboot the phone
or
B) repeatedly turn it on and off again (usually takes 3 or 4 times to work again)
Anyone else having this specific problem or know how to fix it?
jbjcurly said:
Sorry for reviving this thread, but I have what I think is the same problem (on EB01).
My wifi always works after a reboot, but then if I turn it off and try and turn it back on, it gives me an error message until I either
A) reboot the phone
or
B) repeatedly turn it on and off again (usually takes 3 or 4 times to work again)
Anyone else having this specific problem or know how to fix it?
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I was able to get rid if the problem by using Auto Killer Memory Optimizer. It turned out to be a memory issue. Use one of the preset profiles, like aggressive, and see how you do. I was having the problem several times a day and it never came back.
Or, upgrade to PWGB, which takes care if the problem too and doesn't require messing with memory mgmt settings...

[Q] GPS quits working on OMFGB. Can't reconnect loation. Any suggestions?

Running OMFGB 1.2.0.
Whenever I attempt to use Navigation, GPS locates me like it should, navigation begins then GPS is lost and never reconnects. Appears I am not the only one with this issue. Two others posted in actual OMFGB development thread, but no responses.
I really enjoy this ROM, but need to get GPS to work correctly.
Any ideas???
nismopc said:
Running OMFGB 1.2.0.
Whenever I attempt to use Navigation, GPS locates me like it should, navigation begins then GPS is lost and never reconnects. Appears I am not the only one with this issue. Two others posted in actual OMFGB development thread, but no responses.
I really enjoy this ROM, but need to get GPS to work correctly.
Any ideas???
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There was a GPS bug located in CyanogenMod that has been fixed in all of the CM7 ROMs, as fas as I know. This was also an issue with the Froyo CM6 ROMs (and, I think, even the Conap's Eclair CM5 ELB.) See this post in the GSB thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11377484&highlight=gps#post11377484
Anyway, try one of the CM7 ROMs instead, if you do a lot of Navigation.
Yeah this is a problem with both omgb and omfgb. note that the gps signal is not lost, but the navigation app stops communicating. I prefer omgb over cm7 because the exchange mail actually works. Unfortunately, the developer of these roms is not as responsive as some other devs. If you haven't tried gsb, I would. Everything but exchange mail works.
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Edit - I tested a bit more. Gps status does not lose fix, but navigation and maps do after 5 or so.
klobkelosh said:
Edit - I tested a bit more. Gps status does not lose fix, but navigation and maps do after 5 or so.
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I ended up going back to CM7. I really liked the default load of OMFGB. Didnt have to tweak all the screens and settings, but oh well. I got CM7 almost where I want it.
Thanks!
3 Different ROM GPS not working
I tried 3 different ROMS for gingerbread OMGB, Condemned CM7 and GingerTaz 27 and in all of them I cant get google maps and Osmand to connect to satelitte. It keep losing GPS connection after 2 minutes and never been able to reconnect.
everytime I flash the rom I did full wipe (data, cache and dalvik).
Is there any gingerbread Rom that I can try which has the GPS problem corrected ?
Any help greatly appreciated.
update: I flash GSB CyanogenMod 7.1.0 RC0 the GPS working so far, however the phone a bit slugish
hoodred said:
update: I flash GSB CyanogenMod 7.1.0 RC0 the GPS working so far, however the phone a bit slugish
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Yes, I'm on V3.3 and GPS worked flawlessly today...
...as for on performance. I am running it at 787Mhz/480Mhz ONDEMAND and seems to be ok.
nismopc said:
Yes, I'm on V3.3 and GPS worked flawlessly today...
...as for on performance. I am running it at 787Mhz/480Mhz ONDEMAND and seems to be ok.
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WOW
i cant never get pass 710 on maximum. If I set over 710 the phone hang all the time
hoodred said:
WOW
i cant never get pass 710 on maximum. If I set over 710 the phone hang all the time
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Similar experience here with several GB rom (by Tazz, CS, Mac & OMGB/OMFGB - GPS would usually start & work - but if I start driving away in NAV (within Car Mode or standalone, even in Map mode) - it will announced "GPS Signal loss .... screen display Searching GPS, etc." & won't regain functionality - even if I were to pull over and use GPS Tool to reset/download fresh datasets. I gave up - been careful & spending time doing a full SD wipe, clearing cache data & dalvik and checking/verifying all the steps - all of the developers are working hard on solutions & resolve the issues.
GSB seemed to be most reliable, V3.3 was excellent as I used it last week on a 3 hour freeway road trip and it never once lost signal/navigation - used it alongside the old trusty Garmin unit. Grabbed & flashed the latest V3.4 GSB release and it's just as good, if not better, for other minor fixes - not running the Super Charger script, bumped Performance setting up one notch to 710/480 and Boot reset, JIT off and everything else default. Using moderate ATK setting only - and I'm getting very good results overall on this GB custom ROM. Very responsive & I'm not going to push the speed any higher as it is excellent in my scoring of this "EOL" device with zero trade-in value to VZW, LOL.
Let's keep in mind that all of these GB roms are basically all work in progress, not exactly "Final Release" but seemed to be getting close to being declared a "finished product" ready for prime time, but GSB is my "biased" preference as a daily rom over the others.

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