As i mentioned I lost root access after the update today. I am still able to use launcher pro but i can't use titanium backup or set cpu. On a side note i did notice that my superuser permissions app is no longer in the menu (the one with the ninja). I tried to redo the root but it can never find the update.zip. I tried rooting it manually and with One click root with no success. Its been awhile since I loaded Launcher pro, but doesn't that require root access. Any thoughts?
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Is there a way to install an apk as a system app? I want to 'unroot' a device but still run an app that requires root access. I'm unsure of how this can be done, any advise would be very much appreciated!
Thanks
I know that the Z4 root app has an option for temp root functions which goes back to an unrooted state once you reboot.
My guess is that you can run that, place your apk in the appropriate system folder, install the apk from there & then reboot.
But again I'm not to sure if temp root functions work on our G-Tabs & if it does if it's as simple as I explained. Worth a try I guess.
Again I'm assuming that your not already in a permanent root state. If so then you'll have to unroot completely first & then try what I mentioned above.
Unless someone has an easier method?
convert user apps to system apps
nikt said:
Is there a way to install an apk as a system app? I want to 'unroot' a device but still run an app that requires root access. I'm unsure of how this can be done, any advise would be very much appreciated!
Thanks
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Titanium Backup Pro (paid version 3.8.1 and higher) has a function that allows one to convert user apps-->system apps (as well as system app-->user app ... though this sometimes causes initial FCs, which generally disappear with reboot).
Not sure if the effect will remain after unrooting.
Just to clear up a bit, not because an app its on /system it will have root access. If you want to run an app that needs root, you need root, thats it. You cant unroot and use the app after that.
So, no you cant do that. Its 2 different things installing an app on /system than having root for an app.
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Just to clear up a bit, not because an app its on /system it will have root access. If you want to run an app that needs root, you need root, thats it. You cant unroot and use the app after that.
So, no you cant do that. Its 2 different things installing an app on /system than having root for an app.
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So then how do proprietary apps like Sprint Nascar (as an example) run on an unrooted phone?
Why would Sprint Nascar need root permision?
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Why would Sprint Nascar need root permision?
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It probably doesn't or it might I have no idea. The op never pointed out which apps he wants to use.
However & this is a big however, as I have no idea which apps require root access, one has to assume that any of the preinstalled apps that come on our G-Tabs do in fact need root access, yet they can run on an unrooted device. Again I could be wrong.
That being said, how does one go about determining which apps require root access?
Thanks for the replies guys. The issue is supporting proxy servers on unrooted devices. There are several proxy apps that require root access as well as a kernel that supports proxy. If the proxy app were installed as a system app, would this have enough rights to access the kernel as required? I don't know enough about this but was led to believe this might work if it was running as system. Same for apps that use CIFS, like mount manager. I guess I'll give it a try and see what happens...!
Like I said, being installed on System doesnt have anything to do with having root or not.
Im 95% sure about what I am saying.
edit: I confirmed it..so 100% sure, if the app needs root, you will need root no matter where the app is installed.
Hey everyone,
After I updated to MIUI 1.9.9 today, I lost root. This is my 5th or 6th MIUI update, and I've never had this issue before. I dl'd and flashed it thru ROM Manager. I discovered the problem when I installed Titanium in order to get all my apps/settings back. It gave be the "be sure your ROM has busybox" error message. Any thoughts on how to get back to root? I tried uninstalling Titanium and the Pro key, rebooting, then reinstalling Titanium with no luck. I didn't even get the "countdown" message where you have to allow Titanium root rights. Any help would be great!
Thanks
From MIUI.us
"UPDATE NOTICE: Superuser Permissions need to be enabled via Superuser.apk menu enable superuser Permissions. (Superuser is found in Tools folder)"
open SU, menu/settings/enable.
I don't know If this is different on every phone but on my Desire Z this app is not in the tools but on one of the home screens directly also you I had to kill titanium backup because it didn't try to acquire root again (I restarted the whole phone but I forgot that I could have kill it from application manager).
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I don't know If this is different on every phone but on my Desire Z this app is not in the tools but on one of the home screens directly also you I had to kill titanium backup because it didn't try to acquire root again (I restarted the whole phone but I forgot that I could have kill it from application manager).
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Same issue in my Galaxy Tab P1000 GSM after Miui update. Root access rights somehow disabled.
I upgraded to ics and lost root(which is fine for now) but how do i remove my super user app. I cant just uninstall from settings, apps. So is there something im missing? Thanks
Edit: mods, please fee free to move to the q&a section. Meant to post there.
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Root explorer will get rid of SU
You have to delete from 3 places in the system section I just can't remember which 3. I did it on the TF101 and it works
Your dont need root to do it but you may need the paid version of Root Explorer
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I have the same problem let me know if you find out what files to delete. Would really appreciate it.
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Depending on how you rooted, the superuser app is probably installed to /system. If this is the case then you can only remove it by doing a full root followed by an unroot.
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Thanks for the help, but I've since re-rooted via viper mods tool. And actually just unlocked the bl.
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I tried using the viperMod and I still couldnt get su permission, what is wrong. It is in the system files and I tried deleting them with the ROOT Explorer app stated above and nothing worked. What am I doing Wrong?
EDIT: sorry I didn't notice that jmikeb92 was not the OP. So this post probably makes no sense.
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If I were you I'd root using mempodroid, install the su binary, then use a terminal shell to remove all traces of root (ie: superuser apk, busybox, su).
Another thing you can do is check the permissions on your su binary. Not sure where vipermod puts it, probably in /system/xbin. Check that it is setuid at least. If it is not, that's your problem. In this case gain root using mempodroid and setuid the sucker.
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EDIT: sorry I didn't notice that jmikeb92 was not the OP. So this post probably makes no sense.
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If I were you I'd root using mempodroid, install the su binary, then use a terminal shell to remove all traces of root (ie: superuser apk, busybox, su).
Another thing you can do is check the permissions on your su binary. Not sure where vipermod puts it, probably in /system/xbin. Check that it is setuid at least. If it is not, that's your problem. In this case gain root using mempodroid and setuid the sucker.
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I literally have no idea how to do the binary code stuff. Ind of a noob when it comes to that. Is it terribly difficult?
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I literally have no idea how to do the binary code stuff. Ind of a noob when it comes to that. Is it terribly difficult?
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No it is not difficult but you would need some knowledge of linux security. For example what setuid/setgid is, how to change file ownership, how to change file permissions.
There are lots of resources out there if you are interested in that sort of thing.
Hi,
I had this problem and spent hours before I could figure out how to remove Superuser.
Maybe you can try this method:
First, download Root Browser Lite from the market. It's like Root Explorer, but it's free and can work with both rooted and unrooted device. Then, open it and go to system>app. Inside the folder, delete the file 'Superuser.apk'. When it's done, power off to restart the phone.
If that doesn't work, you can do what I did. Search for Superuser in the market and try to uninstall from there. It may take a while. After that if the dead shortcut still appears in the app drawer, you can just reboot the phone and it'll be gone.
For those whose phones are rooted and have Titanium Backup, you can use that to delete the file, too.
Hope it helps.
defy plus
hey.... i tried using all the methods given above but all of them failed on my defy plus ... i had root access but unknowingly updated to latest dfp231 .. now im stuck with it ... also cant unroot it or remove the superuser app.. n to start a new thread regarding rooting guidance the site doesnt allow me as im new user .. so is there any method to remove the superuser app from defy plus ????
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Hi,
I had this problem and spent hours before I could figure out how to remove Superuser.
Maybe you can try this method:
First, download Root Browser Lite from the market. It's like Root Explorer, but it's free and can work with both rooted and unrooted device. Then, open it and go to system>app. Inside the folder, delete the file 'Superuser.apk'. When it's done, power off to restart the phone.
If that doesn't work, you can do what I did. Search for Superuser in the market and try to uninstall from there. It may take a while. After that if the dead shortcut still appears in the app drawer, you can just reboot the phone and it'll be gone.
For those whose phones are rooted and have Titanium Backup, you can use that to delete the file, too.
Hope it helps.
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I tried that method but it says failed to delete superuser.apk, same thing on root explorer
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open drawer, put your finger on the superuser app and hold for a few sec. After drawer goes away, keep on holding it. You will see "App Info" at the top of your screen. Move the superuser there and menu will pop up. Clear cash and disable the app. Now it should be gone.
I hope i helped you
Sorry if i made a mistake. English is my second language.
Hi all,
I've rooted my SGS3 via ODIN with CF-Root-SGS3-v6.3. Everything went good and I had root in seconds. One thing I've noticed that this method is installing SuperSU app instead of SuperUser (which I was using on Motorola Defy). It didn't make any difference for me, however after some time I discovered that not all applications works with SuperSU. For instance xMissedCallPatch for exDialer don't even ask for admin permissions. Permission access window from SuperSU just don't POP UP so I can't give that app a root permissions. There was some more examples but can't remeber which one. TitaniumBackup and few other works good.
And here comes the problem:
I wanted to change from SuperSU to SuperUser, so I've installed SuperUser from market, however that does not make him as default app to handle root requests. So... I went to SuperSU settings and clicked "Switch Superuser application". That deleted SuperSU as default app to handle root, but again it didn't make SuperUser as default also. So, none of SuperSU or SuperUser were default apps to handle root
So, trying to make this out, I've uninstalled SuperUser and made ODIN again with CF-Root-SGS3-v6.3. All procedure went as expected but SuperSU still isn't default app to handle root. Now when I'm launching TitaniumBackup (for instance) it just says that it can't work because it has no root rights. As previously no Permission access window from SuperSU.
Do you have any ideas?
OK, my fault.
I've accidentaly used CF-Root-SGS3-v6.3 instead of v6.4. After ODIN with v6.4 everything works great. Even apps which hadn't popups from SuperSU previously now work. For example xMissedCallPath for exDialer now works somehow.
Sorry to bother you all, topic to close.
Hi, I have a samsung galaxy duos, android 4.0.4. pretty old, i know.
anyway a few months ago i found a way to finally root my phone(i couldnt find a good root app that worked) i used kingo root which automatically roots my phone using my pc, after a few months of having my phone rooted, the main root app stopped working and would crash every time an app would request root permission or when i tried to open the app itself.
now the deal is, i cant use my root, i cant uninstall the root, i cant replace the root app, any solution to this?
Well in such case you have to manually remove it by flashing a custom recovery and deleting all the files created by kingroot such as base apk. And the su library planted by it.
All the best:good:
abhinavp649 said:
Well in such case you have to manually remove it by flashing a custom recovery and deleting all the files created by kingroot such as base apk. And the su library planted by it.
All the best:good:
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i said kingo root not kingroot, the names are similar but both are different, anyway i found a backup of the kingoroot app and now everything is fixed, thanks!