Hi everyone, hope someone can advise.
I have a UK TG01 and it works ok but overnight it wont charge from the mains charger but it charges via usb.
I have tried different chargers and an old HTC mini usb charger with a mini to micro adapter fitted but its still the same.
I have the Mugen 1300Mha battery but its the same with the standard battery on all chargers.
I have cleaned out both the charger plug and the socket on my TG01 just in case of dust but no good it only charges via usb.
I have hard reset and flashed the standard UK Orange rom but this makes no difference.
Does anyone know whats going on? it was fine, no changes or software loaded and one day its fine and the next day it wont charge??
Any advice would be gratefully received, thanks for reading.
Faulty USB sockets i think try send it back to Toshiba for warranty repair.
Not sure about that as my TG01 does charge if I plug it into my laptop, this would suggest the socket is ok?
I believe that the charger is faulty, try a new micro usb charger, or try another socket
wafeeq said:
I believe that the charger is faulty, try a new micro usb charger, or try another socket
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Agreed. As the TG01 is charging via USB, then there is most unlikely to be an issue with the uUSB socket on the phone.
To tell the TG01 to go into charging mode, the uUSB connector on the charger must have the two data pins shorted out. This is the equivalent effect to connecting to a host laptop or PC when connected via a USB sync and charge cable.
If you have a non-standard charger or are using an adapter from eg. mini-USB to uUSB it is very likely that this will not be implemented.
A few questions...
- Are you trying with the supplied Toshiba charger ?
- If so did it work OK with this before but not now ? [likely duff charger]
- If a 3rd part charger, again has it ever worked ? [if not then probably missing the required pin config]
Hope that is of some help.
Hi Kevin, its a genuine Toshiba charger and I have been using it since day one.
I took my charger into work today and tried a friends Nokia micro usb charger and that worked first time so duff charger.
No, I asked him to try my Toshiba charger and that also worked
So I assume my original charger possibly may not be 'shorting' correctly or presenting exactly the right resistance to the TG01 or possibly my TG01 is getting a little fussy about how it charges.
Anyway I have ordered a genuine Nokia charger from ebay and fingers crossed all should be well and thanks for all the advice everyone.
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Hello,
I've got my TyTN in europe (ROM 1.18.256.104) and my "usb" car charger is not working (charge sometime but ONLY if my TyTn is switched off....not usefull for GPS...)
I've tried another one same problem...restested with my 9100 : ok .
Is it due to the charging load ???
Anyone experiencing the same problem ???
Cheers
André
If I remember correctly the 9100 used an 800mA charger and the TyTn uses a 1A charger. That could be your problem.
hello,
same problem, but charging work on laptop (normally laptop is unable to offer more than 500ma).
I've read an article with C500 where charging work when pin 4 of the usb cable was linked with gnd. Is the same problem with Tytn ?
cheers
Tom
yep, had the same problem too with a standard charger with usb cable.
the charger output was 500mA. it stopped charging after a few seconds.
Recently i bought a Brodit carholder with the charger included. This charger has 1000mA output and its charging without problems.
So you need at least a 1000mA(1A) charger, otherwise it will not work well.
yep, had the same problem too with a standard charger with usb cable.
the charger output was 500mA. it stopped charging after a few seconds.
Recently i bought a Brodit carholder with the charger included. This charger has 1000mA output and its charging without problems.
So you need at least a 1000mA(1A) charger, otherwise it will not work well.
Thanks Luminus for the Reply, But are you sure there is no electronic part added on this car charger ? :?
Strange enough, both my car charger and USB Mains adapter (1A output) (which I was using for O2 Mini and Dopod 818Pro without any problem) was charging fine on my Dopod 838Pro, but the unit had a problem and I was given a new unit. This unit now does not work with my car charger nor the USB Mains adapter.
Looks like a trip down to the service centre again!
it was a cigarettelighterplug adaper with a usb output, with a regular usb/miniusb cable. the adapter was 500mA.( input 12V/output/5V)
it was a complete kit. you could use it for anything you want.
I only attached the TyTN to this adapter.
the adapter couldn't hold it, the amps exceeded the 500mA and stopped loading. the adapter still works on other devices.
the brodit has the same type of adapter, only with a fixed cable on it and 1000mA. this works perfect.
thats why i think that you need a 1000mA one to get it charging.
Hello,
Perhaps true perhaps not...
I used an official Qtek charger -> 1A ..it work
But not sure that due to the 1A because tried to use a self powered USB Hub and it work too ... I will check the official Qtek car charger (if nothing specific)
I use several chargers. i notice that sometimes, if a charger will only charge the device when switched off, i soft reset the device and then it will charge when on. strange problem. the problem of not charging when on, also occurs with chargers that for sure have over 1 amp.
Same problem here......tried to use the mini usb charger I got with my Leadtek BT GPS mouse......
Sometimes it will charge.....sometimes not....
Problem seems to occur when I switch the device on....ie receiving a phonecall or a textmessage....
It then stops charging only to resume after the phone goes back into stby mode....
Weird.....
Danny.
I have the same problem. I have HTC TyTN and 1A car lighter charger with normal USB cable.
Charging from normal, regular charger works. Charging from computer's USB works. Charging from car adapter works only sometimes.
I've tested about ten different car chargers, including one 2A - still nothing.
I've done factory reset of TyTN - after reset it was working for two days.
I have installed only few essential for me programs and no tweaks.
Cable is tested and working.
It makes no difference if I connect device turned on or off. It makes no difference if I reset device connected.
I have no more ideas...
I kept having the same problem but I think I've solved it.
I went into a T-Mobile shop and bought the 'official' car charger for T-Mobile SDA/MDA and I haven't had the problem since.
I've no idea what it's current rating is, because it has no relevant markings on, but it does get pretty warm in use!
help
I am really confused.
I have the sync wire that came with my device. It has stopped working as a charger from the laptop and I can;t active sync. I can however, de-activate the usb link and use the cable to activate my phone as a modem for the pc, so in theory it works at some level.
I also have another lead which is a compact one and it is giving me the same problem.
Both worked until this week so it isn't a case of them not being compatable.
Any ideas. I depserately need to sync. I can charge from the plug so thats no problem.
ahh
I have repaired actve sync and it seems to be ok now. I have no idea what happened.
Does anybody charge their TyTN in car via a usb car charger. I use a usb car charger for different devices: Bluetooth headset, gps reciever...
I also used it to recharge my Blue Angel.
Unfortunately I can't charge the TyTN. Has anyone had the same issue?
The charger says that it can charge 1Ampere. The original home charger is also 1 Ampere, so I don't understand why it doesn't work.
Have tried it with two different usb car chargers and both have the same problem: It charges only if TyTN is turned off. When I switch it on then the red charging light turns off.
Lio said:
Does anybody charge their TyTN in car via a usb car charger. I use a usb car charger for different devices: Bluetooth headset, gps reciever...
I also used it to recharge my Blue Angel.
Unfortunately I can't charge the TyTN. Has anyone had the same issue?
The charger says that it can charge 1Ampere. The original home charger is also 1 Ampere, so I don't understand why it doesn't work.
Have tried it with two different usb car chargers and both have the same problem: It charges only if TyTN is turned off. When I switch it on then the red charging light turns off.
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I had similar problems except I didn't need to swithc the pda. I saw the usb charge couldn't charge completly or it was very slow to charge if I had screen with light or TomTom running.
I solved using a diferent charger, that generates 220 volts. It has 140W and costs around 40 euro.
Do you have a link, a picture or a brand name to this product?
Lio said:
Does anybody charge their TyTN in car via a usb car charger. I use a usb car charger for different devices: Bluetooth headset, gps reciever...
I also used it to recharge my Blue Angel.
Unfortunately I can't charge the TyTN. Has anyone had the same issue?
The charger says that it can charge 1Ampere. The original home charger is also 1 Ampere, so I don't understand why it doesn't work.
Have tried it with two different usb car chargers and both have the same problem: It charges only if TyTN is turned off. When I switch it on then the red charging light turns off.
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Same problem.
I was told by the dealer that it's a matter o cable (the pins in the cable)
the one sold with the device is fine just to sync and charge from pc, but can't charge through car adapter.
I'm bought a new cable (arriving next week): it's a double cable, one side for pc, other side for charging.
if it works, I'll post..
bye
I'm afraid to tell you that your new cable will not work. You were not well informed. I am sure that it is not a cable problem, but a charger problem. According to me the power output expressed in Amps (Ampere) is not strong enough even though it says that it's 1 Ampere as the mains charger. Those cheap chinese made chargers are not strong enough for the TyTN. That's why it charges when the TyTN is switched off but as soon as you switch it on, the power output from usb car charger is not enough.
Lio said:
I'm afraid to tell you that your new cable will not work. You were not well informed. I am sure that it is not a cable problem, but a charger problem. According to me the power output expressed in Amps (Ampere) is not strong enough even though it says that it's 1 Ampere as the mains charger. Those cheap chinese made chargers are not strong enough for the TyTN. That's why it charges when the TyTN is switched off but as soon as you switch it on, the power output from usb car charger is not enough.
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mmhhh, I'll wait the new cable, hoping it works ;.)
the fact is that with original cable the car adapter doesn't charge even if the device is off..
same thing with a 220V usb adapter.
only the original kit seems to work..
I'll tell you in a few days
btw: both adapter are chinese ;-)
Nope, Lio is right on this one. The car charger simply doesn't supply enough juice to charge the TyTN. O2 Exec users have had this problem for ages.
I use the charger bought from the Orange shop for the spv c500. Works fine, if a little slowly.
There are strange things happening!
The USB cable should not enter in to the equation as USB is USB and the pins should be wired correctly.
Here is what I have found.
If charging in the car all is ok until the power is cut, then it only charges whilst off until the TYTN is soft reset. This looks to me like there is a software / powercontroller confilct. It is a little confusing but see the scenarios below;
Soft reset TYTN, leave it off. Plug in to cigarette charger, turn TYTN on/off all is fine.
Turn off TYTN and unplug, all is fine, plug back in (TYTN off) will still charge when TYTN on.
Turn TYTN on, unplug, will not charge whilst on anymore until soft reset but will charge whilst off.
This is the same if I turn the ignition to power the lightere socket.
However, another spanner in the works, if I pull out the charger even with the device off and re-insert it it stops charging until soft reset.
What seemd to work best was to do a soft reset whilst the unit is charging and powered on. After that I was able to unplug, plug in even when the unit was on, turn ignition off/on etc... It only reverted back to not charging when I removed the charger from the socket as it was charging.
These are my findings and I presume each charger will be different.
I presume whatever electronics are in the chargers also causes problems. I have tried 2 USB and one fully wired charger and it is the same with all. I know for a fact that at least 2 of them have overcharge circuitry built in but do not think the 3rd has, I also presume the TYTN also has so perhaps there is some conflict here also.
I do know that there are car chargers specifically for the TYTN so will try one of those and see if it solves the problem. (anyone tried one?)
Anyone with more ideas please let us know.
What seemd to work best was to do a soft reset whilst the unit is charging and powered on. After that I was able to unplug, plug in even when the unit was on, turn ignition off/on etc... It only reverted back to not charging when I removed the charger from the socket as it was charging.
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Thank you for this tip. Now I can recharge in car thanks to u! :lol: I tried it and it works.
Great Lio,
Glad it worked. When you get a chance, could you pull out the chrger from the lighter socket as it is charging and let me know if it then stops charging again. I just want to see if the same happens to you as it did to me. It will work again once you soft reset whilst plugged in.
Thanks.
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What seemd to work best was to do a soft reset whilst the unit is charging and powered on.
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I believe this trick should go to FAQ.
A week ago I visited a lot of shops trying many mains-to-USB charges to no avail. I already had one for MP3 player that didn't work too.
After reading your post, I connected the original charger and SRed. Now that another charger works!
Can't imagine what's the reason but it really works.
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could you pull out the chrger from the lighter socket as it is charging and let me know if it then stops charging again.
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Yes, it does exactly like you've described.
Originally Posted by cieplowski
could you pull out the chrger from the lighter socket as it is charging and let me know if it then stops charging again.
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Same here.
Is this a bug in the software ?
I found this : http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=138248
I think it should work fine, I am not sure.
"I found this : http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=138248"
Could you contact them and ask about its power rating and whether it is susceptible to the problem/bug?
here I am again.
finally I got the new cable and... surprise... IT WORKS
I used it without soft resetting the device and it worked
I tryed soft resetting the device and it worked
But the biggest surprise of all is that after using the new cable, also the old one started working ..
i guess there must have been a software bug that has gone (hope forever) away.
For those interested, the new cable is a double one: one side is usb, other two sides are charge connector and hotsync connector.
pix09 said:
here I am again.
finally I got the new cable and... surprise... IT WORKS
I used it without soft resetting the device and it worked
I tryed soft resetting the device and it worked
But the biggest surprise of all is that after using the new cable, also the old one started working ..
i guess there must have been a software bug that has gone (hope forever) away.
For those interested, the new cable is a double one: one side is usb, other two sides are charge connector and hotsync connector.
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have you got a web link for this one you now have?
friend of mine has apparently got a tytn, I'll pick up a 1.2A USB / Car adapter this weekend and see what happens, hopefully the extra .2A should enable the tytn / exec to charge normally in a car.
Having had an exec for a while I will agree that most 12v/USB adapters struggle with the exec, but hopefully this will make the difference, if it works I will post the details of the company selling them (they are listed for the PSP)
I haven't had this trouble. Just got my new MDA Vario II and I've used it with my old MDA compact mains charger and the car USB charger and it works with no problems.
Tried it with the Vario II on and off and have a charging light on both.
So, bought the following cradle from DayDeal's ebay store:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350284094212
The product description says the following:
* Custom-fitted Docking Cradle
* USB connection/charging cable
* AC power adapter
* Stylus
Now the issue is with the second line. What is NOT explained here is that the unit when plugged IN to a wall jack AND the sync charge cable is plugged in to your computer, the sync/charge cable gets no more power from the wall jack and wants to get it from ONLY the sync/charge USB cable. All of this leads to the unit being grossly undercharged and therefore, complains that there is not enough charge coming from the power source and that you need to shut down and therefore the whole idea of a wall charger is useless after this.
WHY would a sync/charge USB cable which by the way is physically attached to the unit and cannot be removed, while the wall jack plugs into a proprietary mini-USB cable. I know it's proprietary because I tried first to use the wall charging cable that came with my TP2 from Sprint.
So, I'd recommend not buying this cradle unless you want to do what I'm doing now, have a USB sync/charge cable dangling from the unit and NOT plugged into the computer, but instead only plug in the wall charger and sync and data transfer via USB which is what I was doing before except now, I have a cradle to do it in.
Not a good trade-off to me. I bought this specifically to be able to sync/charge FROM the cradle.
One last thing, don't think about using the cradle if you have a skin or a hard case on the phone. The connector is so flush with the back of the charging stand that if you try to put anything BUT the phone into the stand it can't connect.
EDIT: December 5, 2009:
Been in touch with the vendor. They are going to swap out this unit for another one. They say that the unit doesn't do this at their site and that this one may be defective. I'll gladly swap this one out for one that works as unstated or at least expected. I'll post when I've gotten the new unit if this is actually a defective first unit or if this is the actual way these units work. And, I'll also try this on multiple machines so that I know it's not just my home desktop.
Another bad cradle from ebay DELUXE CRADLE W/2nd Battery Slot FOR HTC TOUCH PRO 2
When AC plugged in and USB to PC the PC USB sucks the power so the phone charges slow or not at all. Also doenst seem safe for the USB to send the power back out to the PC from the cheapo AC plug in this cradle. When used as a standalone charger AC only it sometimes fails to charge, about a 50-50 success rate. Stay away from it.
That's good info. It is the exact cradle I bought, but i bought it just for charging. I have not used it for connecting to the PC yet, but i needed a cradle that had a slot for a battery in it too.
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Another bad cradle from ebay DELUXE CRADLE W/2nd Battery Slot FOR HTC TOUCH PRO 2
When AC plugged in and USB to PC the PC USB sucks the power so the phone charges slow or not at all. Also doenst seem safe for the USB to send the power back out to the PC from the cheapo AC plug in this cradle. When used as a standalone charger AC only it sometimes fails to charge, about a 50-50 success rate. Stay away from it.
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That the one I have as well. I also have not use it for my computer.. All I really wanted was a cradle for my nightstand that had an additional battery charging slot as I also bought some of those $10 200mah batteries to try (have not received them yet)
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That the one I have as well. I also have not use it for my computer.. All I really wanted was a cradle for my nightstand that had an additional battery charging slot as I also bought some of those $10 200mah batteries to try (have not received them yet)
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200mA or 2000mA? Got a link please? Sorry for off topic.
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200mA or 2000mA? Got a link please? Sorry for off topic.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390130739877
2000mah
I purchased this cradle and my complaint has to do with the USB cable that is attached to cradle. I need a long line to reach back of my PC. This attached one does not reach unless I want to view the phone from 5' away! Very disappointed. I've only had it a few days but didn't know this, sanjsrik:
What is NOT explained here is that the unit when plugged IN to a wall jack AND the sync charge cable is plugged in to your computer, the sync/charge cable gets no more power from the wall jack and wants to get it from ONLY the sync/charge USB cable."
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It does seem slow to charge but I'll run a couple of tests to confirm.
Hi all!
So I just got the DK30 and I like it!
No problem at all docking and charging but I took it to work, connected to the computer USB and it is not charging. I thought it would charge, slowly but charge..but no go.
So I guess I will be bringing a surge protector extension tomorrow to connect the ac adapter to the DK30.
My other question is USB cables. I want to get a longer cable so that when I am gaming I can still charge via the usb port (since holding the magnetic one in place will not be possible).
But from experience, another thicker cable I got, only charges at 400-500mAh at best which is not enough when gaming.
Anyone has found one that works like the original?
Thanks!
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Hi all!
So I just got the DK30 and I like it!
No problem at all docking and charging but I took it to work, connected to the computer USB and it is not charging. I thought it would charge, slowly but charge..but no go.
So I guess I will be bringing a surge protector extension tomorrow to connect the ac adapter to the DK30.
My other question is USB cables. I want to get a longer cable so that when I am gaming I can still charge via the usb port (since holding the magnetic one in place will not be possible).
But from experience, another thicker cable I got, only charges at 400-500mAh at best which is not enough when gaming.
Anyone has found one that works like the original?
Thanks!
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No the dock wont charge off USB. Its stipulated in the manual.
USB out are 5v... but most are only 500mAh so the charge will not register on a docking device
Any cable thats magnetically sealed so to reduce power loss, will work. Depends on the manufacture process. A cheaper cable probably wont be very effective. Branded cables are usually better, but its hit and miss. I have a Samsung 2m cable that came free with an older digital camera, and it still works very well. But not sure on a link or anything to provide you with to buy one.
I am getting a good cable now , 6', it helps me when gaming although I realized I can for the most part game with the dock station attached and it does not fall lol..not very comfy for some games but works.
i just brought a new p9000 and it was delivered yesterday. The first thing was to charge the new phone so i used the usb-c cable wich came with the phone. with my computer the phone doesn't connect or charge. with a normal socket adapter it doesn't charge either.
anyone has an idea to check whats wrong besides to buy and try another cable?
btw: charging with a qi charger works fine.