[Q] Update Available...What should I do? - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Well, I'm on a rooted (hardware-locked) Vibrant with Stock FW, with no other modifications other than ClockWorkMod. I got the update available message, but I hear it bricks alot of phones regardless if its modified or not. Are the benefits worth the risks? I know there is an option to hardware-unlock it but it seems that theres only a 50-50 chance of it working. Ill give you some general info below.
LagFix- No
Kernel- Stock
Rooted- Yes
GPSfix- No
FW/ROM: Stock UVJFSD
Recovery-ClockWorkMod
Mods: N/A (no lockscreen mods, no bootup/shutdown mods, etc.)
Root-required Apps- Rom Manager, Ad-Free (I usually don't mind ads but the angry birds ads are particularly intrusive)

you do know that there is a fix for hardware locked phones, located here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804305

rlxurmnd said:
you do know that there is a fix for hardware locked phones, located here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804305
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Yes, I said that in my original post.

i think that is pretty much your only option for getting it hardware unlocked. i do here that the OTA JI6 update does also fix the the hardware locked issue, but i could be wrong

I'm in the same predicament, I am not sure if I should do the upgrade or not.
Excuse my ignorance but what does "hardware locked" mean? I looked at the wiki for a definition but couldn't find anything.
I am rooted and have done the lagfix and some other things, I did a backup with Titanium but I am still unsure as to what might happen if I upgrade... anyone have any advice?

hardware locked is when you do not have any button combinations to allow you to get into download mode or into recovery mode.

NikolaiT said:
Well, I'm on a rooted (hardware-locked) Vibrant with Stock FW, with no other modifications other than ClockWorkMod. I got the update available message, but I hear it bricks alot of phones regardless if its modified or not. Are the benefits worth the risks? I know there is an option to hardware-unlock it but it seems that theres only a 50-50 chance of it working. Ill give you some general info below.
LagFix- No
Kernel- Stock
Rooted- Yes
GPSfix- No
FW/ROM: Stock UVJFSD
Recovery-ClockWorkMod
Mods: N/A (no lockscreen mods, no bootup/shutdown mods, etc.)
Root-required Apps- Rom Manager, Ad-Free (I usually don't mind ads but the angry birds ads are particularly intrusive)
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If you have no issues with your phone, then its not worth the update. Honestly, I recommend Bionix rom over the update

both bionix and frankin twiz are good roms

Given some of the crap I've heard happening with this update I am not wasting my time with it since my phone seems to be just fine with JFD. I'm waiting for the 2.2 update, not that I am holding my breath or anything.

NikolaiT said:
Well, I'm on a rooted (hardware-locked) Vibrant with Stock FW, with no other modifications other than ClockWorkMod. I got the update available message, but I hear it bricks alot of phones regardless if its modified or not. Are the benefits worth the risks? I know there is an option to hardware-unlock it but it seems that theres only a 50-50 chance of it working. Ill give you some general info below.
LagFix- No
Kernel- Stock
Rooted- Yes
GPSfix- No
FW/ROM: Stock UVJFSD
Recovery-ClockWorkMod
Mods: N/A (no lockscreen mods, no bootup/shutdown mods, etc.)
Root-required Apps- Rom Manager, Ad-Free (I usually don't mind ads but the angry birds ads are particularly intrusive)
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if you are rooted, don't do the update. My GF's phone is rooted and the phone hang at vibrant screen after update. Another friend with everything stock and non rooted updated fine. If i would you, i would do the hardware unlock flash via odin and then use odin to update it to ji6 and then flash a custom rom like bionix.

well as of 30 minutes ago I was holding my breath because my son was using youtube on my phone and accepted the OTA that I was postponing because Im rooted also with OCLF. But luckily the update installed with no problems or brick. So I say go for it, as long as your using the stock rom. I did backup my phone using ROM manager first just in case

The update fixed my HW lock issue.
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Accept T-Mobile Update?

My Vibrant is telling me that T-Mobile has kindly sent me an update. I think it must be the GPS fix. It is rather persistent in that it won't let me choose when to install it. It will only allow me to delay for at most a day. This is quite annoying as I am preparing for a trip and really don't want to mess around with my phone right now.
I am running Vibrant9. Do I want to install this update? Is it gonna break anything? Thanks!
JJMT said:
My Vibrant is telling me that T-Mobile has kindly sent me an update. I think it must be the GPS fix. It is rather persistent in that it won't let me choose when to install it. It will only allow me to delay for at most a day. This is quite annoying as I am preparing for a trip and really don't want to mess around with my phone right now.
I am running Vibrant9. Do I want to install this update? Is it gonna break anything? Thanks!
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Shouldn't break anything. Most are still waiting for the update. Personally I was impatient and flashed it through ODIN last night.
OK. I accepted the update. Phone is now stuck on "Vibrant" at reboot. Sigh. Proceeding to trying to restore ROM.
JJMT said:
OK. I accepted the update. Phone is now stuck on "Vibrant" at reboot. Sigh. Proceeding to trying to restore ROM.
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Go to the Development section that are a few threads about this. I looks like anyone with a lag fix, or GPS fix (from JI2) where having this issue, plus I have seen stock people having it too.
Or you can go read my blog post here. the post tells the steps I took to get back the JFD, but you could flash JI6 instead.
you will need to flash JI6 with ODIN to restore, you can not just do a nandroid restore, it is an issue with the kernel and nandroid does not restore/backup the kernel.
*facepalm*@Samsung
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803492
Anderdroid said:
*facepalm*@Samsung
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It's not Samsung or T-Mobile.. its that the OP performed tweaks so the ROM wasn't a 100.00% version of Stock. Tweaks including lag fixes, GPS fix, etc can cause this.
Personally, I don't know why if you're performing tweaks on your phone and are on a stock ROM. If you're going to tweak your phone, go the full way and tweak everything.
This is why t-mobile had the G2 nand locked..... so this type of user error won't cost them millions, replacing phones that the user messed up with blind stupidity.... that's only for the ones under warranty, you can still call in a lost phone and get replacements..
dan0zone said:
This is why t-mobile had the G2 nand locked..... so this type of user error won't cost them millions, replacing phones that the user messed up with blind stupidity.... that's only for the ones under warranty, you can still call in a lost phone and get replacements..
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So now instead, they get flooded with returns because the phone isn't what people expected.
zephiK said:
It's not Samsung or T-Mobile.. its that the OP performed tweaks so the ROM wasn't a 100.00% version of Stock. Tweaks including lag fixes, GPS fix, etc can cause this.
Personally, I don't know why if you're performing tweaks on your phone and are on a stock ROM. If you're going to tweak your phone, go the full way and tweak everything.
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That's not true, it is Samsung/T-Mobile fault. I know 3 people with 100% stock, unrooted, vibrants, 2 of them got stuck when they updated. the t-mobile forums filled with stock users with their phone stuck at the vibrant screen as well.
camalot said:
That's not true, it is Samsung/T-Mobile fault. I know 3 people with 100% stock, unrooted, vibrants, 2 of them got stuck when they updated. the t-mobile forums filled with stock users with their phone stuck at the vibrant screen as well.
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And what are the chances of this?
Everybody lies.. especially when they're desperate and unwilling to accept the fact that they modified their phone. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't lie to T-Mobile and say that they didn't modify their phones if its "bricked." Because it is not bricked, all it takes is download mode and Odin. There are threads out there that break down on how to use Odin, it's not that difficult to do.
This is why I don't endorse "One Click" anything unless it is a long process. Sure, it makes everything easier but it makes people not think about what they're doing before they do it. Before one clicking, rooting was so simple, put something on your internal sd and boot into recovery and hit reinstall packages. If something like that is too difficult then they shouldn't be doing any modifications in the first place unless they understanding what they're doing.
The T-Mobile forum is not a valid source because there is no concrete proof that they didn't root their phone and modified something. Even rooting and removing bloatware then removing access to root would cause this.
Edit: Looking at the OP's recent posts.. he did indeed run a custom ROM but has possibly did some tweaking after reverting back to stock?
zephiK said:
And what are the chances of this?
Everybody lies.. especially when they're desperate and unwilling to accept the fact that they modified their phone. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't lie to T-Mobile and say that they didn't modify their phones if its "bricked." Because it is not bricked, all it takes is download mode and Odin. There are threads out there that break down on how to use Odin, it's not that difficult to do.
This is why I don't endorse "One Click" anything unless it is a long process. Sure, it makes everything easier but it makes people not think about what they're doing before they do it. Before one clicking, rooting was so simple, put something on your internal sd and boot into recovery and hit reinstall packages. If something like that is too difficult then they shouldn't be doing any modifications in the first place unless they understanding what they're doing.
The T-Mobile forum is not a valid source because there is no concrete proof that they didn't root their phone and modified something. Even rooting and removing bloatware then removing access to root would cause this.
Edit: Looking at the OP's recent posts.. he did indeed run a custom ROM but has possibly did some tweaking after reverting back to stock?
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Well, I know the 2 people that updated stock and got stuck at the vibrant screen were 100% stock because they both called me on what they need to do. one came over and I fixed it with ODIN back to stock (JI6) and the other just said he'd call TMO and get a replacement. they dont even know what rooting is, or that there is a site like that that they can get files to do "one click root"
OK. I'm the OP and I'm back. I was traveling today (with a phone flashed back to stock - that's as far as I got before getting kicked out of the hotel). I've now got the ROM restored and I'm where I was before trying to install the update.
My question is this (probably simple): my phone still wants to do the update. How do I make it go away? I can't install it, and I don't want to have to postpone it every day. Is there a cache I can clear or something?
You could just update it through Odin. I'm on stock with root and JAC's oc/uv kernel and the OTA failed but Odin worked perfectly.
Yes, I will try to flash it with odin when I have the time and interest, but for now I have neither, and I just want the phone to stop bugging me. Ideas?
JJMT said:
Yes, I will try to flash it with odin when I have the time and interest, but for now I have neither, and I just want the phone to stop bugging me. Ideas?
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It will only stop once you are on JI6
camalot said:
It will only stop once you are on JI6
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OK. I guess I will have to try to push the update through odin. Can someone point me to a link to the files?
I'm kind of irritated by this whole thing. I'm pleased with tmo for pushing the update out, but I mean, really, even Windows allows you to decline to install an update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798125
chad658eku said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798125
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Thanks for the link. It really looks to me that I'm going to need to flash to a stock ROM before flashing JI6. That, as they say, is a bummer.
As I am actually quite content at the moment with Vibrant9, it really seems to me that it would be easier to somehow remove whatever it is on my phone that is requesting that I update. Presumably there is an update.zip file sitting somewhere, that will be copied into sdcard before the updater involves reboot recovery. Any ideas where to look?
I would really rather not do any further flashing until is an official Froyo to flash to.
JWhipple said:
So now instead, they get flooded with returns because the phone isn't what people expected.
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Flooded with returns by morons who think they are smart.

[Q] So many questions about Atrix/OTA/CWM etc.

Hey guys
I´m new here at xda-developers and I have a lot of questions about the atrix and android.
I just bought the atrix and this is my first android smartphone. I´ve SIM unlocked it and rooted it using SuperOneClick.
I´ve read the Q & A thread and it was quite enlightening.
But I still have many questions regarding both the atrix and android:
1. A few days ago, my atrix downloaded the new Motorola atrix updates. If I install this update, will I lose my root permission? Is this update the so called OTA? The update number is 4.1.57.
2. Could you guys give me some tips about how to save more battery life etc?
3. Some apps keep popping even after I killed them with the task killer. Some of them are useless for me. Is there any way to block them? And what about Motorola bloatware? I hate that blur stuff…
4. What does these abbreviations mean? OTA, SBF, ATT, CWM.
5. I want to install gingerBlur on my device, but on those tutorials there is always a mentioning about a OTA 1.8.7 that I gotta backup. Where do I find it?
6. If I install gingerBlur, this custom ROM will consume more or less memory from my device? Sometimes I feel some "lag" on some apps...
7. Could u tell me some must have games for atrix? I already have angry birds, battleheart, 3ktd… I really like tower defense games.
Thank you very much and sorry for so many questions. Oh…and sorry about my English.
Thanks again
1. Yes..you will lose root if you upgrade. You can still however attain root afterwards using some of the methods found in the Development forum. I'm surprised SuperOneClick worked for you tbh..
As for your other questions..OTA means Over The Air (regarding updates etc)..SBF is a term regarding system files (something lime that ) ATT means At&t (the carrier)..CWM is Clockwork Mod which is a recovery tool.
Gingerblur would consume less memory..as it has removed alot of the factory bloat that would've come with the device. This would probably most definately help with any "lag" you might be experiencing.
There are many threads on how to conserve battery life. A simple search will yield you lots of results (google ftw)
For games..most of it is personal preference. There is a new Pinball HD specifically designed for the Tegra 2 chip..as well as a new jetski game that looks pretty sick. Pocketlegends is also a cool game if you like MMO style games (think World of Warcraft).
Rickroller said:
1. Yes..you will lose root if you upgrade. You can still however attain root afterwards using some of the methods found in the Development forum. I'm surprised SuperOneClick worked for you tbh..
As for your other questions..OTA means Over The Air (regarding updates etc)..SBF is a term regarding system files (something lime that ) ATT means At&t (the carrier)..CWM is Clockwork Mod which is a recovery tool.
Gingerblur would consume less memory..as it has removed alot of the factory bloat that would've come with the device. This would probably most definately help with any "lag" you might be experiencing.
There are many threads on how to conserve battery life. A simple search will yield you lots of results (google ftw)
For games..most of it is personal preference. There is a new Pinball HD specifically designed for the Tegra 2 chip..as well as a new jetski game that looks pretty sick. Pocketlegends is also a cool game if you like MMO style games (think World of Warcraft).
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Thank you very much Rick
About the battery life I already did some google search before, but always the same thing. I thought that I could find anything different here
I rooted my device with SuperOneClick it worked pretty well. Is it an old tool to root the atrix? Is there a new one? In the superOneClick, it can use psneuter and Gingerbreak....well...it worked for me
So OTA is those updates that keep popping for me I want to install gingerBlur, so i gotta update to 1.5.7 and then 1.8.(something) or I can install it right away?
If I want to reset my settings to default factory, will I need that OTA??
ty
Rubb said:
Hey guys
I´m new here at xda-developers and I have a lot of questions about the atrix and android.
I just bought the atrix and this is my first android smartphone. I´ve SIM unlocked it and rooted it using SuperOneClick.
I´ve read the Q & A thread and it was quite enlightening.
But I still have many questions regarding both the atrix and android:
1. A few days ago, my atrix downloaded the new Motorola atrix updates. If I install this update, will I lose my root permission? Is this update the so called OTA? The update number is 4.1.57.
2. Could you guys give me some tips about how to save more battery life etc?
3. Some apps keep popping even after I killed them with the task killer. Some of them are useless for me. Is there any way to block them? And what about Motorola bloatware? I hate that blur stuff…
4. What does these abbreviations mean? OTA, SBF, ATT, CWM.
5. I want to install gingerBlur on my device, but on those tutorials there is always a mentioning about a OTA 1.8.7 that I gotta backup. Where do I find it?
6. If I install gingerBlur, this custom ROM will consume more or less memory from my device? Sometimes I feel some "lag" on some apps...
7. Could u tell me some must have games for atrix? I already have angry birds, battleheart, 3ktd… I really like tower defense games.
Thank you very much and sorry for so many questions. Oh…and sorry about my English.
Thanks again
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1) Thats one of the OTA updates, but not the most recent. You will loose your root with any OTA update, but so far you can always get it back using Gingerbreak.
2)Turn off bluetooth, wifi, data, gps, etc. if your not using them. I have everything but wifi turned off at all times unless I"m using one of them and I have between 40-60% at the end of the day. Also, either have your brightness turned down or use auto brightness. Manually setting it high will drain the battery faster when the screen is on.
3)Dont use task killers. Android does not work like Windows, and those applications are not slowing anything down or eating your battery. By killing them your interfering with Android's internal memory management. Unfortunately the motoblur stuff cant be fully disabled, but parts of it can be hidden with the existing psudoroms like Gingerblur.
4)OTA, SBF, ATT, CWM. - OTA is Over The Air (update). Any official motorola update that gets pushed is an OTA. SBF - not sure what it stands for, but its the file format for Motorola's updates. Usually you can download one on a computer and flash it over USB if you arent getting it over the air, and they can be used as a last resort if you brick your phone. ATT - AT&T, the carrier for the Atrix in the United States. Some roms and tweeks are only compatible with AT&T model phones. CWM - ClockworkMod, software that allows for the installation of roms. CWM is device specific, so only use an Atrix CWM on the Atrix.
5) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063618
6) Either the same or slightly less. So far roms are little more than themes because of the locked bootloader. I say slightly less because some, like Gingerblur, remove SOME of the bloatware.
7) As I dont really play games much, I'm unable to answer this. Sorry.
Hope that helps
Jotokun said:
1) Thats one of the OTA updates, but not the most recent. You will loose your root with any OTA update, but so far you can always get it back using Gingerbreak.
2)Turn off bluetooth, wifi, data, gps, etc. if your not using them. I have everything but wifi turned off at all times unless I"m using one of them and I have between 40-60% at the end of the day. Also, either have your brightness turned down or use auto brightness. Manually setting it high will drain the battery faster when the screen is on.
3)Dont use task killers. Android does not work like Windows, and those applications are not slowing anything down or eating your battery. By killing them your interfering with Android's internal memory management. Unfortunately the motoblur stuff cant be fully disabled, but parts of it can be hidden with the existing psudoroms like Gingerblur.
4)OTA, SBF, ATT, CWM. - OTA is Over The Air (update). Any official motorola update that gets pushed is an OTA. SBF - not sure what it stands for, but its the file format for Motorola's updates. Usually you can download one on a computer and flash it over USB if you arent getting it over the air, and they can be used as a last resort if you brick your phone. ATT - AT&T, the carrier for the Atrix in the United States. Some roms and tweeks are only compatible with AT&T model phones. CWM - ClockworkMod, software that allows for the installation of roms. CWM is device specific, so only use an Atrix CWM on the Atrix.
5) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063618
6) Either the same or slightly less. So far roms are little more than themes because of the locked bootloader. I say slightly less because some, like Gingerblur, remove SOME of the bloatware.
7) As I dont really play games much, I'm unable to answer this. Sorry.
Hope that helps
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Yay! thank you very much
I´m not lost anymore Now I´m confident enough to try installing gingerblur
ty ^^
Another thing...
what should I do if something goes wrong when I install gingerBlur? I´ve read that I gotta flash sbf 1.8.3. Does it mean that I gotta install the update 1.8.3 to make the atrix stock default?
How do I do that?
I'm not trying to sound ignorant, but if all of this it's so confusing I would highly recommend not messing with it unless you're confident you can fix things if they go wrong. Which at this state you are not.
With that said... An SBF is not an update file as mentioned, it is a full system restore image. Not sure what it stands for... Maybe System Backup File???
If something goes wrong you can use an sbf to restore the phone to the factory default of the sbf version number.
Before installing gingerblur you want to be sure you are on the latest version of atrix software, then run gingerbreak to root. Then install CWM to get custom recovery and flash gingerblur from your sd card in CWM. all of this is explained in the development section.
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I'm not trying to sound ignorant, but if all of this it's so confusing I would highly recommend not messing with it unless you're confident you can fix things if they go wrong. Which at this state you are not.
With that said... An SBF is not an update file as mentioned, it is a full system restore image. Not sure what it stands for... Maybe System Backup File???
If something goes wrong you can use an sbf to restore the phone to the factory default of the sbf version number.
Before installing gingerblur you want to be sure you are on the latest version of atrix software, then run gingerbreak to root. Then install CWM to get custom recovery and flash gingerblur from your sd card in CWM. all of this is explained in the development section.
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Hey lostinbeta, u didn´t sound ignorant at all
I didn´t install the gingerblur yet as I´m trying to learn what I should do in case something goes wrong
That's where you would check the thread in the dev section about flashing an sbf file to restore back to factory default. You will have to make sure an sbf is available for your phone though. So like I'm with at&t so I can only flash the sbf for the at&t atrix otherwise I will lose functionality of my phone. Or possibly brick it, im not sure
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That's where you would check the thread in the dev section about flashing an sbf file to restore back to factory default. You will have to make sure an sbf is available for your phone though. So like I'm with at&t so I can only flash the sbf for the at&t atrix otherwise I will lose functionality of my phone. Or possibly brick it, im not sure
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My atrix is from AT&T so I guess the sbf commonly available is from AT&T. I will make sure that the sbf I will use is definitely the one from AT&T.
I will check the thread about restoring the atrix to factory default
Thanks a lot
EDIT: not ROM related...can I use mp3 sounds as SMS alert sound and can I use different mp3 sound for my contacts?
I´m looking for it as I write this but no success
ty
Reading through this thread, if you can't follow all the instructions fed to you on a silver spoon, and can't/won't/don't read all the appropriate information in the many threads which tell you how to do everything you are trying/want to do, then you either need to keep your phone stock, or go trade it for an iPhone!
Not trying to be a ****, but next you will want someone to change your daiper/nappy!
Mp3s as SMS tones I'm not sure. I think you can with an SMS replacement app like chomp. I've really never tried as I've had no need to since my phone is on silent 95% of the day because of work.
Individual mp3s for contacts you just have to edit your contact and choose ' more details' and it's towards the bottom. You can use ringdroid to make custom cuts or just put the file in the ringtones folder under 'sdcard' not 'sdcard-ext'.
CaelanT said:
Reading through this thread, if you can't follow all the instructions fed to you on a silver spoon, and can't/won't/don't read all the appropriate information in the many threads which tell you how to do everything you are trying/want to do, then you either need to keep your phone stock, or go trade it for an iPhone!
Not trying to be a ****, but next you will want someone to change your daiper/nappy!
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Rofl... Sorry this is amusing and true.
I don't mind helping, I'm not really much help anywhere else on this forum as I still just have basic knowledge about this stuff.

You guys are confusing

Please don't be angry. I am severely confused over this whole update thing. With the bootloader, and the leaked rom, and the official ota rom.....good lord it's like my mind is trying to hump a doorknob.
Anyway... I have 2.2.2, rooted (although by which method, I cannot remember). I do not have any mods. I have side-loading enabled. I have tethering enabled.
What is the safest way, in plain english, to update to the newest version? I don't know what SBF means, I don't know what CWM means, I don't know what RSD means.
All I want as an end result is a rooted version of the latest, OTA update with an unlocked bootloader.
Please help the ignorant
Edit: I guess I should tell you that I'm in the US on an ATT atrix.
You may want to confirm with someone with more experience, but this worked for me (rooted 1.8.3, OTA 2.5.91), I'm too damn new to even post the link ... pm me I guess hah
k4zyn said:
Please don't be angry. I am severely confused over this whole update thing. With the bootloader, and the leaked rom, and the official ota rom.....good lord it's like my mind is trying to hump a doorknob.
Anyway... I have 2.2.2, rooted (although by which method, I cannot remember). I do not have any mods. I have side-loading enabled. I have tethering enabled.
What is the safest way, in plain english, to update to the newest version? I don't know what SBF means, I don't know what CWM means, I don't know what RSD means.
All I want as an end result is a rooted version of the latest, OTA update with an unlocked bootloader.
Please help the ignorant
Edit: I guess I should tell you that I'm in the US on an ATT atrix.
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if you do the over the air update you will not have an unlocked bootloader unless you do it before there are custom roms that are just as good and stable as the official ones that will root unlock your bootloader and upgrade if you want to do all of this follow my guide here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179506
Just to enlighten things a bit...
a SBF (i believe it stands for system binary file?) is a file that contains an official (made by the manufacturer) ROM for a cellphone. The entire operating system and kernel.
RSD (a.k.a. RSDlite) is a software designed by motorola, to use on your computer to install these SBFs on a cellphone via USB connection.
CWM is a piece of software for your phone that is accessible during boot, before the OS loads.
- After installed, to use it, you have to turn on the phone holding both the power button and the volume down buttons. The phone screen will show "fastboot". That's only one option in a series of options that you can scroll through using the "volume down" button, and that you select using the "volume up" button. Scrolling down, you'll find the option "Android Recovery", which will access whatever CWM you put in place.
- It's function is to allow the installation of ROMs and Kernels. Its basically a simpler alternative to RSD, requiring no pc to function.
And to update your device, first you must install RSDlite on your computer, and install the Pudding SBF on your phone using it. After that, You have to install Tenfar's CWM on your phone. Then you'll choose one of the avaiable ROMs (there's the stock one posted up by kennethpenn, a version of the stock one with a few upgrades, and several customized ones), which you will install using CWM.
The detailed steps are on the NOOB GUIDES fixed post on one of the Atrix's foruns, but I beleive those explanations shall make that road a little less bumpier.
Simple answer
Hi I'd just like to add my 2 cents from the update experience.
If you are rooted prior to the update, installing the official update of gingerbread from Motorola will make you lose root privileges-plain and simple.
In my case unlike you I did not have sideloading enabled. That was the only difference in your situation and mine. So that's a question for a Senior member to answer.
If I were you, I'd just go ahead and update regardless. This forum has a lot of information in resurrection of the bricked phones in the 1% chance that it may happen. 99% you will update to the gingerbready awesomeness.
Another piece of advice is that after exploring a lot of features of the stock rom, i felt that the launcher is the Achilles heel of motoblur or blur UI as they call it now. Try using adw launcher?. It's fast and fantastic. Completely customizable.
This ends my 0.02$.
The way to get unconfused is through education. Find a couple of hours and a pen/paper.
Read the wiki here.
Watch the videos here.
Take notes and follow up in the threads, if you have questions.
kind of a noob myself, but find everything pretty simple. This is an awesome ROM with what you are looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160649
So I need an SD card ey? Hmm. Ok, well, thanks for the info.
I thought we had a wiki somewhere. Oh wait! We DO!
I have a very similar problem on the lines of i have no idea what the hell is going on and what ppl are saying...!!
But what a bigger problem is is that i have a Orange UK version phone, tho i dont use Orange network... and apparently everything is for ATT phones... so im not sure if any of these things are even compatible with my phone...!?! im running froyo 2.2.2 and want to somehow get onto 2.3.4 but just dont know how...?!?!?!

starting over, please help

hi i just got an atrix, switched over from jailbroken iphone.
I went through rooting it and installed rom manager but when i try to reset permissions i get an error and when i try to reboot into recovery it says "failed to boot 2 starting rsd" and hangs.
I just want to reset the phone to stock and start the process over, can someone give me some help on this....
Id like to install the ninja rom. but im lost about what order to do things, root, backup/nandroid, and install new rom etc.
thanks
First, it would be nice to know what was on the phone when you started? 1.8.3, 1.2.6 or 4.9.1?
Next, where are you trying to go? You installed the ROM Manager, does that mean you were going to try to use a particular ROM?
Probably more important, the ROM Manager is not fully compatible with the Atrix (see thread).
Before going forward, I would suggest reading (and re-reading) this thread about the bricking potential. Don't get me wrong, it is possible to add custom ROMs to your Atrix, you just need to be cautious.
At this point, it doesn't sound like your Atrix is hard bricked. However, to help out, we need a little more information.
kwick60073 said:
First, it would be nice to know what was on the phone when you started? 1.8.3, 1.2.6 or 4.9.1?
Next, where are you trying to go? You installed the ROM Manager, does that mean you were going to try to use a particular ROM?
Probably more important, the ROM Manager is not fully compatible with the Atrix (see thread).
Before going forward, I would suggest reading (and re-reading) this thread about the bricking potential. Don't get me wrong, it is possible to add custom ROMs to your Atrix, you just need to be cautious.
At this point, it doesn't sound like your Atrix is hard bricked. However, to help out, we need a little more information.
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ya its not hard bricked, i pulled out the battery and it starts and runs normal. it says its android ver. 2.3.4 and baseband 1.77.30p build number 4.5.91
you know to be honest im pretty happy with it out of the box... adding non-market apps would be nice and id like to be able to make full backups to boot from if i need to. id like to delete some apps i dont need.
it seemed like there was a problem with the rooting i did cause some stuff wasnt working like 'shootme' screengrab app and the permissions fixing wasnt working.
thanks for your help i really appreciate it!
You can try this to root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
I don't know if that allows for enabling side-loading or not.
cmontboober said:
ya its not hard bricked, i pulled out the battery and it starts and runs normal. it says its android ver. 2.3.4 and baseband 1.77.30p build number 4.5.91
you know to be honest im pretty happy with it out of the box... adding non-market apps would be nice and id like to be able to make full backups to boot from if i need to. id like to delete some apps i dont need.
it seemed like there was a problem with the rooting i did cause some stuff wasnt working like 'shootme' screengrab app and the permissions fixing wasnt working.
thanks for your help i really appreciate it!
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Enabling non-market apps is a built in feature for 2.3.4, go to Settings -> Applications, and put a check mark next to "Unknown Sources".
For rooting, try Gingerbreak.
For backing up, there's a CWM version that doesn't need an unlocked bootloader, but I am unlocked so I don't have experience installing it / using it.
Since most people are unlocked, I am not sure if the non-unlocked version of CWM was kept up to date, it might be obsolete / non functional by now.
xploited said:
Enabling non-market apps is a built in feature for 2.3.4, go to Settings -> Applications, and put a check mark next to "Unknown Sources".
For rooting, try Gingerbreak.
For backing up, there's a CWM version that doesn't need an unlocked bootloader, but I am unlocked so I don't have experience installing it / using it.
Since most people are unlocked, I am not sure if the non-unlocked version of CWM was kept up to date, it might be obsolete / non functional by now.
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for rooting it again do i need to get it back to completely stock or just use gingerbreak on it as it is now?
thanks for all the help everyone.
cmontboober said:
for rooting it again do i need to get it back to completely stock or just use gingerbreak on it as it is now?
thanks for all the help everyone.
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You can root at any point. Gingerbreak should work fine if you have usb debugging enabled.
how can i do a factory restore, setting it back to how it came out of the box? also, any tips on maintenance to keep it running fast?
thanks again for all the help
cmontboober said:
how can i do a factory restore, setting it back to how it came out of the box? also, any tips on maintenance to keep it running fast?
thanks again for all the help
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That largely depends on your setup BL / CWM ,etc...
You might wanna read this guide to clear up many things:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600

[Q] Flashing to stock, what do I need to know?

I'm flashing to stock, what do I need to know before getting started? I am coming from an Atrix that was previously on rooted OTA updated gingerbread firmware.
Background...
I finally rooted my atrix because I really wanted the new swype beta. I got carried away freezing and uninstalling apps in titanium backup and now I'm getting a constantly recurring force close dialog that comes back up too fast to even click a button to get into the system folder and completely remove it. So basically i have to return to stock. A hard reset didn't help obviously.
I have a lot of experience flashing roms and rooting my old samsung captivate but I never messed with rooting or flashing on the atrix because of all this talk about locked bootloaders which sounded kind of scary.
Anyway, I'm following mobiletechvideo's (connexion's) video on youbtube on how to flash to stock which is titled "Motorola Atrix (How To Use RSD-Lite). Basically, I have the drivers installed, I have rds lite 5.0 installed, and I know how to get into RSD mode at boot. Is it really this simple?
Anyway, I guess what I'm asking is where are mistakes commonly made? What do I need to watch out for? Sorry for ranting, but I just want to be really cautious, I can't risk hard bricking this phone. It seems sometimes as if no matter how well prepared you are, there is a bit of info that you can miss which could really screw things up.
I am downloading the most recent firmware on this list. Is this what I need, or do I need something for the bootloaders too. I am assuming that I do not need to worry about unlocked bootloaders since I am staying on gingerbread and not upgrading, correct?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125944

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