Hello all, I'm just wondering, is having a task killer a good practice or not?I use task panelx. I am rooted, w/ xtrsense 4.6 and cfs v6 kernel I also use autokiller. Thanks I advance for any insight.
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Personally, I stopped using task killers months ago. Really didn't see any positive impact.
It's debatable. Some people like them, some people don't. Personally, I use one. I think that it improves the performance of my phone.
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Don't use it for autokilling but it is nice for if you just want to close an errant app that won't close.
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Don't use it for autokilling but it is nice for if you just want to close an errant app that won't close.
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Auto task killers are way more trouble than they are worth.
Here's the thing, no matter how your task killer works it's ALWAYS going to pull your program from your RAM (where it's using little to no battery) to your CPU (where it uses way more batter) and this is going to run your battery dry.
If your automatic task killer happens to kill a task when you're getting a phone call or trying to do something else you will notice serious lag for a moment and that's a pain.
Frankly, I have a task killer but I use it only when my phone is plugged in and usually only right after my phone starts up or after a day.
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In all the Froyo roms currently out here, I have this same problem:
Any random time I check Advanced Task Killer, I'll see 12-15+ apps in the list that are open, that I didn't even open. Sucking my battery, memory and will to live.
Anyone else have this problem? Why do they keep coming on?
This has been addressed elsewhere I believe, so look for that. If you are rooted, you can download AutoKiller and set it to Optimum or Strict and your system will auto-kill background apps as memory fills up.
Let them run, it is fine. If you uninstall that darn task killer you'll never even know that they're running.
Should be in general or q&a
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listyb01 said:
Let them run, it is fine. If you uninstall that darn task killer you'll never even know that they're running.
Should be in general or q&a
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The strange thing is that they don't show up continuously running in something like xtrSense or PlainJain, which is what I find weird.
I have the same problem
when I updated from kaosfroyo 29 to 30, my battery life decreased greatly. And the battery life would remind me that they were running.
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The strange thing is that they don't show up continuously running in something like xtrSense or PlainJain, which is what I find weird.
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As an fyi they would not show up in xtrSENSE as I have set the default min memory free to a level for the ROM as if you are using a strict or higher value in autokiller
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what ive noticed through my experience with 2.2 vs. 2.1 roms, froyo manages these apps in the background a lot better than 2.1 does. i used advanced task killer religiously while on 2.1, but noticed that when i switched over to froyo it ran just as smooth, if not more smooth than before. so now i just dont even bother with ATK, and let froyo/autokiller do their thing. im also noticing, even in the absence of ATK, i am getting much better battery life with 2.2 than i did with 2.1.
just my two cents.
EDIT: should have said i was on kaosfroyo. dont have experience on others.
I heard it was bad using a task killer. is it true? If it is, what cpu watcher should i use. Is watchdog an option. Let me know thanks. I heard it doesnt work for froyo, the task killers.
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Yes, I heard and read that in this Forum. I visited the other Forum and they write same issue.
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I heard it was bad using a task killer. is it true? If it is, what cpu watcher should i use. Is watchdog an option. Let me know thanks. I heard it doesnt work for froyo, the task killers.
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Then whats the best way to manage cpu?
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let android do that.
linux is different from windows. period
If three processes are killing memory, kill 3 processes! Advanced task killer and Is monitor work fine for me
Sometimes your better off just ignoring arguments. Linux has PS and TOP to view processing. Kill lid is as Unix as there is O hack away
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let android do that.
linux is different from windows. period
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Why? If things are dickies, stop them and remove if persistent as problems.. they are safe to kill all day
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A quick overview for you..
Android, in theory, manages it's memory allocation under the premise that free memory is wasted memory.. so it fills the memory up with apps that you use, to a point, keeping a small amount free for caching etc.. when you launch something that will take your memory allocation over the preset limit then it will drop something out of memory that hasn't been used in a while..
However.. there are occasions where Android 2.1 doesn't seem to manage things perfectly and the x10 slows down.. so to remedy this you can kill a few "user initiated" tasks..
This is where many people get into problems.. They download something like ATK and set it to aggressive autokill and then it kills system apps which the system either needs (and so you get operational problems with the phone) or it restarts them.. ATK kills them again.. the system restarts them... etc.. (using the battery more quickly).
There are also some apps which are badly written and don't sleep when "minimised" wasting battery.
So the solution is to get a task killer of some sort and use it manually when you need it.. make sure you set "persistent" apps and system apps to ignore, then you should just be left with stuff you've installed.. and you can kill those all day long!
im_icemen is right, you need a good task killer. Personally I use ES Task Manager, if you set a good ignore list you can use its widget which makes everything faster
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I use spare parts and set killing to aggressive
I use ATK but with no Auto-Kill at all. Every now and then I find an app move a little slowly and manually kill a couple of tasks then, and I find YX Player doesn't always drop out of memory after playing a video and stops the lockscreen so I kill it too.
But its not often I have to use it.
Some say task killers cause harm to anDroiD. But personally i feel task killers are must.. itsm quickly kills tasks, frees up memories and boosts up system..
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''Autokiller memory optimizer'' does the trick for me. Its not a task killer in the usual sense. It just allows you to adjust memory thresholds. I set it to moderate and i have no problems with speed or anything like that.
Edit: The reason why some say task killers are bad is due to the possibility of battery drain. Depending on how they are configured the rate of task killing can rapidly deplete the battery.
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I don't know what the deal is but this is continually happening to me and across different roms. I am using the built in "Task Manager" feature of touchwiz to monitor what processes are using my cpu. I am finding that some things are sitting there using between 15-45% cpu at all times even when in the background. For example:
Today right before my lunch I checked the task manager, I stared at it for 2 minutes to make sure there was no cpu activity, when I saw that everything looked to me normal I clocked out for my lunch and left work. By the time I was done eating (my phone had been in my pocket the entire time by the way) I checked my phone to see what time it was and noticed that I had lost about 12% battery life in 30 minutes. I immediately opened task manager and found that Browser was in the red and running at a constant 45% cpu usage. I immediately exited the browser. I find that this is happening with other apps as well.
What could be causing this? And more importantly will ICS fix it?
Interesting. Browsers are always killing it for me.
For example I use Dolphin Browser. The ad-dons like Google services and tab switcher kill battery like a mother and also put a ton of CPU stress on the processor.
Only thing I can say is make sure to close out all apps because apps running in a background may run rampant.
Yeah that shouldn't be happening.
I do hope a feature is implemented into android to have a 'do not run list' unless opened by user.
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Interesting. Browsers are always killing it for me.
For example I use Dolphin Browser. The ad-dons like Google services and tab switcher kill battery like a mother and also put a ton of CPU stress on the processor.
Only thing I can say is make sure to close out all apps because apps running in a background may run rampant.
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What I've resorted to is closing all web pages when im done and backing out of apps that I know have started to run out of control sometimes. There has to be an easier way though.
What about times like today when im researching something and have to run out for lunch and just throw my phone in my pocket with 8 browser windows open? I have to go back and find all the pages because I had to close them all out in fear that my battery would drain?
There has to be a better way. I switched to android bevaseu of the horrible memory management apple has. I would hate to leave android beacuse it couldnt control backgournd processes and let my battery be destroyed.
Memory management is good on these phones. Bad memory management causes slow downs.
What you're looking for is app management. I know some may jump on the me for saying anything about a task manager, but you might want to try one out.
Though I'd only recommend using it for the programs you're having issues with. Set it to 'only' kill the problem apps. Not any other apps or system processes.
What browser are you using? If it's happened across multiple roms, it may be an issue with that browser. Better to treat the problem (the app) than the symptom (battery getting drained)
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Memory management is good on these phones. Bad memory management causes slow downs.
What you're looking for is app management. I know some may jump on the me for saying anything about a task manager, but you might want to try one out.
Though I'd only recommend using it for the programs you're having issues with. Set it to 'only' kill the problem apps. Not any other apps or system processes.
What browser are you using? If it's happened across multiple roms, it may be an issue with that browser. Better to treat the problem (the app) than the symptom (battery getting drained)
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Well see its happening with the same apps across different roms so I know its either an android problem or a touchwiz problem. Can you reccomend any apps that will auto close apps if they start using too much CPU or an app that would allow auto kill on exit? Thank you.
There's not any apps like that, at least yet. Task killers kill whether the app is using alot of cpu or not.
What apps are causing you issues? Have you compared what apps you have on your phone to entropy512's thread about known battery drainers?
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There's not any apps like that, at least yet. Task killers kill whether the app is using alot of cpu or not.
What apps are causing you issues? Have you compared what apps you have on your phone to entropy512's thread about known battery drainers?
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I remember seeing that thread somewhere before but don't know how to find it again.
Can you reccomend any task killer apps?
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My favorite with my captivate was auto task manger. When you first open it, it tries to get you to update but the update is garbage.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mizusoft.autotaskmanager&hl=en
I haven't used one with my sgs II. Hasn't needed one so far.
Here's a link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308030
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My favorite with my captivate was auto task manger. When you first open it, it tries to get you to update but the update is garbage.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mizusoft.autotaskmanager&hl=en
I haven't used one with my sgs II. Hasn't needed one so far.
Here's a link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308030
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Thank you, I will read through this.
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dumb question guys
i saw the thread regarding freezing the bloatware and i don't wanna mess with my phone. right now I'm having a great battery life by just doing the task manager and all my apps are in the list for auto end list for 2mins. it works really good. i have my 4G on all the time and 40% brightness.
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What do you mean by "great battery life "? Because ending tasks all day long is a pure waste of juice, considering some of them restarts just after beeing killed. You've created an infinite loop...
Task killing is almost always the worst possible option. Freezing is the best way to get rid of an app when you can't uninstall it (by choice or because it's part of the rom).
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task manager kills apps 2 minutes after screen off. freeze does away with them altogether. completely different.
I'd use task manager for browser, market, and other RAM hungry apps. If I froze them I wouldn't be able to use them at all
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Hi,
What do you mean by "great battery life "? Because ending tasks all day long is a pure waste of juice, considering some of them restarts just after beeing killed. You've created an infinite loop...
Task killing is almost always the worst possible option. Freezing is the best way to get rid of an app when you can't uninstall it (by choice or because it's part of the rom).
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I believe he means the one auto built into blur/gingerbread. Not that placebo app
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Do we need them?
Newer phones has them build in their firmware and have more memory
But the 2010 models like the Htc desire etc needs those cleaning tools
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pressytcn said:
Newer phones has them build in their firmware and have more memory
But the 2010 models like the Htc desire etc needs those cleaning tools
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I herd that it slows your phone because you kill like chunks of the android software and you make it load back up again so its slower and makes your battery die quicker.
I can't explain in technical terms, but basically the Android OS is different than say Windows on your PC, where you don't really want to have a bunch of processes running in the background. It actually optimizes performance to have it loaded in the memory, and by killing it you only make your phone work that much harder to either load it when you want to use it, or when it continues to load itself into the memory a short time later.
When I first got my smartphone, someone recommended Advanced Task Killer to me as a battery saving tool, but I never noticed any improved battery life. If anything, the constant checking and killing of tasks made me use the phone more and drained the battery faster.
I'm using go launcher and it has the option of killing running tasks, and once you do, you can leave the phone untouched and come back to it 20 mins later, all those programs are back up and running, so I don't even bother with killing them, just leave it all running. I've never noticed an improvement with battery life either, or noticed any lag with a bunch of apps running in the background.
Best thing you can do is debloat, that way there are fewer apps running, that you don't need anyway.
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Best thing you can do is debloat, that way there are fewer apps running, that you don't need anyway.
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First off most task killers are just bs.
The real way to stop tasks from sucking up your memory and or slowing your phone is exactly what andy said.
Dl titanium back up pro, and "freeze" or (with caution of course)
Remove them.
Most apps restart any ways so it a waste.
Check your permissions, see what your also are doing im the background, and shut off what you don't like or want.
I use go launcher/locker(sorry about my lil ics joke...lol) as well and that task killer is just like the others...worthless. lol.
I have found that the task killer by gannicus is ok, but again what's the point when **** just reboots ..
Hope that helps
Well, I use htcs task manager to close the browser because if even if you click back to exit it, it still stays open, but that's pretty much it
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I use
1. Go launcher which is instead of sense
2. Go TaskManager widget. it is awesome.
3. root uninstaller to delete the crap.
4. Autorun manager to stop the apps that I don't need them to run when I reboot.
5. There is another one is more simple than the first one . it's startup manager
Note: 3,4, and 5 starts when you reboot so to stop that use Autorun manager to stop startup manager and use startup manager to stop Autorun manager and root uninstaller.
Sometimes you don't like some apps to be deleted but they are annoying because they start with the system, so use 4 and 5
I use both of them because each one has its own ability.
Do Not Shut the apps that are important to not brick your phone.
Use it on your own risk
I can explain in technical terms...you should never use them...task killers kill tasks which android OS will spend time restarting, by doing this, your battery and CPU will get used more and you will actually find your phone laggier and running out of battery faster....
I have lots of applications on my phone that need to have their permissions modified...
But I use them to see what crapware is starting itself for no good reason.. Sorry deja but if your app loss itself for more than 2 minutes twice a day?... It's crapware...
My phone my rules... I don't want something running unless I request it... I'm willing to wait for it to load if its goona run smoothly... this is the standard tradeoff quick load or smooth running... But if I haven't used WhatsApp in 3 days why does it run constantly regardless of settings??.. It's crapware
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