For the purpose of this review, I am comparing the Jetstream, side by side, to the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Both in hand. I promise no iPad comparisons. I tried as best I could to represent both devices, however, please keep in mind that my findings are completely subjective.
Styling:
The Jetstream, without question, is thicker and heavier than the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Although thicker, the build quality on this device is solid. Where the GT10.1 is light and thin, and has a somewhat plastic feel, the Jetstream by comparison is very well built. It feels somewhat like the EVO View/Flyer, only in a 10” variety. Same styling and curves.
Screen:
This is the difficult part of the review. Both screens are very nice. In fact, I think probably the nicest Honeycomb screens available, besting both the EEE Pad Transformer and the Acer A500 in my opinion. The color representation on the Jetstream is “probably” more accurate, and definitely softer; however the contrast on the GT10.1 definitely provides an image that gives much more “pop” and color than the Jetstream. Maybe not as true of a color, but definitely more vibrant.
Processor/Connection Speed:
Although the Jetstream runs a dual core 1.5Ghz Snapdragon, in a purely subjective (side by side) comparison, I would still give the nod to the Dual core 1.0Ghz of the Tegra 2 on the GT10.1. Screen transitions seem quicker and where I noticed the speed difference most was in the Gallery application. When viewing the same pictures on both devices and swiping between images, it took the Jetstream a second to “redraw” each image. The image initially appears blurry until it draws on the screen completely. On the GT10.1, images appeared instantly in full resolution.
These devices are both 4G LTE devices on their respective carriers, however, not having AT&T LTE in Milwaukee, it was impossible to compare. I will say that downgrading to the HSPA+ on the Jetstream provides a pretty continuous 3.5+ Mbps down in the Milwaukee area, which for most applications, is plenty fast. Still a far cry from the 20Mbps down when running LTE on Verizons Galaxy Tab, however.
Games run smooth on both devices; however, because Tegra apps will not run on the Snapdragon, the Jetstream will not run the handful of games currently available in the Tegra Zone on the GT10.1.
Sense vs. Samsung UI:
This section is purely subjective to the user, however, for me was one of the areas where the Jetstream outshined the GT10.1. The Sense UI implementation on the Jetstream is fantastic. You are still crippled by the restriction of only 5 home screens; however, they can now be reorganized within Sense.
The pure number of Sense Widgets available is enormous. All of the Sense widgets we are used to are present here as well. Clocks, Calendars, Friend stream, Twitter, Weather, stocks, bookmarks, people, mail, etc. are all available for use. Similar to Sense 3.0 on phones, you can also configure 4 applications as quick launch items on the home screen as well as have the current weather always available when unlocking the device (with or without sound).
You can also download other widgets, backgrounds, Scenes, and skins through the HTC club. Sense overall provides quite a bit of customization. Very Very nice.
Browser:
The Jetstream uses a skinned version of the standard Honeycomb browser. Although similar, in my opinion, I like the looks of the Jetstream browser better than the standard implementation found on the Galaxy Tab. One omission on the Jetstream browser that Google+ users will notice is that unlike the GT10.1 honeycomb browser, you cannot view your Google+ stream natively within the browser. I was notified that if I wanted to do this, I would need to download Chrome. Google+ streams can still be viewed from within the Google+ application.
Market:
Netflix is available without side loading on the Jetstream. That aside, the movies tab normally found on the market, as well as the Google videos application are not currently available on the Jetstream. This may be due to the Jetstream running only Honeycomb 3.1, or may also be affected by both the HTC Watch and AT&T Movies applications being installed on the device. The “Movies” application pre-installed on the device is different in that it provides a “rental subscription” type of service where you purchase a specified amount of credits per month to use on movie rentals. For comparison sake, the GT10.1 does include both the Samsung Media Hub as well as the Google Videos application. Verizon also includes a $25 voucher to try the service out.
Memory configuration
Each device comes with 32G built in storage. Unlike the GT10.1, however, the Jetstream can be expanded VIA Micro SD to provide up to an extra 32GB of storage. The Jetstream also splits the memory in half and provides 16G for applications and 16G as storage. I personally like the storage setup on the GT10.1 better, allowing the entire 32GB to be used as a whole as you wish.
Video & Audio:
Although I am not a big fan of cameras on tablet devices, I have to give a nod to the full 1080P video recording capabilities of the Jetstream. Videos look clean and clear without any loss in quality or jaggies. As with other mobile devices, sound recording is limited to the included microphone, although both devices do an admirable job of pulling audio.
Both devices have great speakers, however, when you plug in a nice pair of headphones, HTC once again adds the SRS audio enhancements to the Jetstream that really makes the audio a cut above the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Value:
The Jetstream sells through AT&T for $849 off contract and $699 on a 2 year contract with a minimum $35/month data plan for 3 gigabytes of data. Your allotment of data cannot be used as a Wi-Fi hotspot for other devices through the Jetstream. Although you save $150 on a 2 year contract, the early termination fee is $325, decreasing by $10 a month. The subsidy of only $150 seems a little extreme to justify a $325 ETF.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 sells through Verizon for $729 off contract and $599 on a 2 year contract. Data plans start at $30 for 2 gigabytes of data, $50 for 5, and $80 for 10. The difference with Verizon is that you can use your included data allowance to use the tablet as a Wi-Fi hotpot device for other devices.
If prices for the hardware were the same at $729 off contract, $599 on contract, I would give the nod to the Jetstream. Although a bit thicker and heavier, I really enjoyed having the Sense UI on the tablet. Even with Verizons 4G LTE service having a much larger installed area, for most applications, AT&Ts HSPA+ service will suffice until their LTE service arrives.
Let me know if you have any questions between the 2. I still have 12 days left before I have to decide which one to part with.
Thanks for the quick comparison!
Hi,
using Dice Player with hardware decoding mode ( or another videoplayer hardware accelerated), can you test theese files:
http://mediafire.com/?ge1nwgd5003s3ak ( .mp4 1080p high profile)
http://www.auby.no/files/video_tests/h264_1080p_hp_4.1_10mbps_dts_unstyled_subs_monsters.mkv
( .mkv 1080p high profile 4.1)
http://www.auby.no/files/video_test..._vorbis_styled_and_unstyled_subs_suzumiya.mkv
???
using the browser (not youtube application , please) can you test this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N2YWRJ-ppo
at 1080p resolution , please.
Thank you
Having used a Galaxy Tab 10.1, I agree on some points, and disagree on others. Obviously every user has different thoughts on Hardware and Software.
I have used the following tablets prior to using the Jetstream:
1. iPad
2. iPad 2
3. Xoom
4. Galaxy Tab 7"
5. Galaxy Tab 10.1
6. Thrive
7. Playbook
8. HTC Flyer
9. Sprint View 4G
10. Touch Pad
Styling: I really beleive the Jetstream feels better than any Tablet I have tried/used. It's not as thin or light as the GT 10.1, but I like the way it feels while holding it. I have to disagree that is does not feel like the View, but the curves and style is somewhat the same. The Jetsream is very well built, and I would argue it's as well built as any of the tablets I have used.
Screen: I couldn't really tell you which screen is better. It's very bright and clear.
Processor/Connection: Since Sunday I have been nothing but impressed with the Jetstream's speed and quickness. The WiFi speed is fast, the Mobile Network speed (Non-4G) is really fast. I actually had a guy tell me yesterday "wow, this thing is so fast". I also I am impressed with the overall speed of the unit. I find the unit to be zippy in the menu's and screens, and do not notice re-draw lags. I find the device quicker than any I have tried. Could be a perception, as I don't have them side by side to test.
Sense: Sense is so well done for the tablet. It was nice on the Flyer, now it's amazing on the Jetstream. Really, really cool. The sense experience is refreshing.
Overall I always felt like the Honeycomb tablets were missing something. Now with Sense, Honeycomb just feels right.
While it's a pricey tablet, it does everything I need it to do. Having 3G/4g on the go is really nice. I get 2gb a month for $25.00. If I go over it's $10 per GB over. So the pricing is the same as the iPad.
codeworks said:
For the purpose of this review, I am comparing the Jetstream, side by side, to the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Both in hand. I promise no iPad comparisons. I tried as best I could to represent both devices, however, please keep in mind that my findings are completely subjective.
Styling:
The Jetstream, without question, is thicker and heavier than the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Although thicker, the build quality on this device is solid. Where the GT10.1 is light and thin, and has a somewhat plastic feel, the Jetstream by comparison is very well built. It feels somewhat like the EVO View/Flyer, only in a 10” variety. Same styling and curves.
Screen:
This is the difficult part of the review. Both screens are very nice. In fact, I think probably the nicest Honeycomb screens available, besting both the EEE Pad Transformer and the Acer A500 in my opinion. The color representation on the Jetstream is “probably” more accurate, and definitely softer; however the contrast on the GT10.1 definitely provides an image that gives much more “pop” and color than the Jetstream. Maybe not as true of a color, but definitely more vibrant.
Processor/Connection Speed:
Although the Jetstream runs a dual core 1.5Ghz Snapdragon, in a purely subjective (side by side) comparison, I would still give the nod to the Dual core 1.0Ghz of the Tegra 2 on the GT10.1. Screen transitions seem quicker and where I noticed the speed difference most was in the Gallery application. When viewing the same pictures on both devices and swiping between images, it took the Jetstream a second to “redraw” each image. The image initially appears blurry until it draws on the screen completely. On the GT10.1, images appeared instantly in full resolution.
These devices are both 4G LTE devices on their respective carriers, however, not having AT&T LTE in Milwaukee, it was impossible to compare. I will say that downgrading to the HSPA+ on the Jetstream provides a pretty continuous 3.5+ Mbps down in the Milwaukee area, which for most applications, is plenty fast. Still a far cry from the 20Mbps down when running LTE on Verizons Galaxy Tab, however.
Games run smooth on both devices; however, because Tegra apps will not run on the Snapdragon, the Jetstream will not run the handful of games currently available in the Tegra Zone on the GT10.1.
Sense vs. Samsung UI:
This section is purely subjective to the user, however, for me was one of the areas where the Jetstream outshined the GT10.1. The Sense UI implementation on the Jetstream is fantastic. You are still crippled by the restriction of only 5 home screens; however, they can now be reorganized within Sense.
The pure number of Sense Widgets available is enormous. All of the Sense widgets we are used to are present here as well. Clocks, Calendars, Friend stream, Twitter, Weather, stocks, bookmarks, people, mail, etc. are all available for use. Similar to Sense 3.0 on phones, you can also configure 4 applications as quick launch items on the home screen as well as have the current weather always available when unlocking the device (with or without sound).
You can also download other widgets, backgrounds, Scenes, and skins through the HTC club. Sense overall provides quite a bit of customization. Very Very nice.
Browser:
The Jetstream uses a skinned version of the standard Honeycomb browser. Although similar, in my opinion, I like the looks of the Jetstream browser better than the standard implementation found on the Galaxy Tab. One omission on the Jetstream browser that Google+ users will notice is that unlike the GT10.1 honeycomb browser, you cannot view your Google+ stream natively within the browser. I was notified that if I wanted to do this, I would need to download Chrome. Google+ streams can still be viewed from within the Google+ application.
Market:
Netflix is available without side loading on the Jetstream. That aside, the movies tab normally found on the market, as well as the Google videos application are not currently available on the Jetstream. This may be due to the Jetstream running only Honeycomb 3.1, or may also be affected by both the HTC Watch and AT&T Movies applications being installed on the device. The “Movies” application pre-installed on the device is different in that it provides a “rental subscription” type of service where you purchase a specified amount of credits per month to use on movie rentals. For comparison sake, the GT10.1 does include both the Samsung Media Hub as well as the Google Videos application. Verizon also includes a $25 voucher to try the service out.
Memory configuration
Each device comes with 32G built in storage. Unlike the GT10.1, however, the Jetstream can be expanded VIA Micro SD to provide up to an extra 32GB of storage. The Jetstream also splits the memory in half and provides 16G for applications and 16G as storage. I personally like the storage setup on the GT10.1 better, allowing the entire 32GB to be used as a whole as you wish.
Video & Audio:
Although I am not a big fan of cameras on tablet devices, I have to give a nod to the full 1080P video recording capabilities of the Jetstream. Videos look clean and clear without any loss in quality or jaggies. As with other mobile devices, sound recording is limited to the included microphone, although both devices do an admirable job of pulling audio.
Both devices have great speakers, however, when you plug in a nice pair of headphones, HTC once again adds the SRS audio enhancements to the Jetstream that really makes the audio a cut above the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Value:
The Jetstream sells through AT&T for $849 off contract and $699 on a 2 year contract with a minimum $35/month data plan for 3 gigabytes of data. Your allotment of data cannot be used as a Wi-Fi hotspot for other devices through the Jetstream. Although you save $150 on a 2 year contract, the early termination fee is $325, decreasing by $10 a month. The subsidy of only $150 seems a little extreme to justify a $325 ETF.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 sells through Verizon for $729 off contract and $599 on a 2 year contract. Data plans start at $30 for 2 gigabytes of data, $50 for 5, and $80 for 10. The difference with Verizon is that you can use your included data allowance to use the tablet as a Wi-Fi hotpot device for other devices.
If prices for the hardware were the same at $729 off contract, $599 on contract, I would give the nod to the Jetstream. Although a bit thicker and heavier, I really enjoyed having the Sense UI on the tablet. Even with Verizons 4G LTE service having a much larger installed area, for most applications, AT&Ts HSPA+ service will suffice until their LTE service arrives.
Let me know if you have any questions between the 2. I still have 12 days left before I have to decide which one to part with.
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I too have used (purchased-returned-or sold) several tablets. I figure if I'm going to drop $400-$900 on a tablet...it needs to be everything to the user-me!
So with that being said, I have been VERY pleased with the JS so far. Pleasantly surprised is more like it. I liked the Flyer, but I agree Sense wasn't all it could be...and on the JS IT'S ALL THERE!
I really did enjoy the G-tabs 10.1 (both WiFi and VZW 4g LTE). Besides the obvious weight between the Gtab 10.1 and JS, both are solid against each other.
I am not in an area with AT&T's LTE network (Central Indiana- USA)...let alone good AT&T service at all really. I splurged for the no-contract buy. Yes, it did sting a bit on the price! BUT- I spent almost the exact same on the VZW no contract buy for Gtab 10.1...and the Xoom was the same price point too when it first came out. Granted, the Xoom def didn't live up to the hype Moto created.
I'm rambling, sorry. Very nice write up and comparisons...I do agree on most. I think a lot people really got stuck on the price point before ever digging into the quality that was put into this one. I really like this one a lot....finally!!!
Just my 2 cents worth! Look forward to chatting more with other JS owners.
Thanks,
C-J
Plus:
-UI is sleek, polished, and contemporary
-Great stock browser
-App, scrolling, and transition speed
-Customization and great assortment of widgets
-Social/e-mail integration
-Build quality
-Micro SD
-Stylus support
Cons:
-Bad for video (stutters, stalls, limited codec support)
-Funky non-Android compliant video implementation limits third-party options (Dice FC's, Plex and PlayOn don't work period)
-It weighs a ton, especially going back and forth to the GT 10.1
-Limited distribution = no accessories, no app developers attention
-Bad placement for the volume rocker
If you can get past the weight, price, and aren't a heavy video user, it's a solid choice. I could live with the weight, the price didn't bother me but the crappy video implementation and potential lack of accessories and app support sent me back to the GT. The latter is a big deal because it appears HTC did a lot of proprietary stuff to the OS that affects a bunch of third party apps that don’t have problems on other tablets.
Looking at what's currently available, the JS is the only tablet that is different than the pack. Sony's using the same technology that's been out for almost a year as are Toshiba, Lenovo, Acer, and Asus. I'll stick with the GT until something revolutionary (vs. evolutionary) comes out hardware or software (ICS) wise; hopefully before the holidays. I’m waiting for a 32GB GT 10.1 3G from the UK but the release just got pushed back from early September to early October. HSPA+ is the only thing missing for me on the GT and unlimited fake-4G data and MMS ends up being $25 a month for an international device.
B"H
Pretty sure the Samsung Tab 10.1 3G units ARE NOT LTE capable. Other than that, loved the review.
Thank you,
Dovid
Dovid, in the US, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is available in WiFi as a only model and a 4G LTE Verizon model (that has WiFi too and fallback to Verizon 3G EV-DO Rev. A).
On another topic started by BarryH, I found out of the box MPEG4 video playback to be very good, in fact better than my other Honeycomb tablets. It handles 1080P high profile, and that's not too common with Tegra 2 tablets. I'm not talking about 3rd party apps like PlayOn, and I wonder if those are having problems right now because they don't yet support the dual core Snapdragon Scorpion + Adreno 220 used in the Jetstream.
dovid said:
B"H
Pretty sure the Samsung Tab 10.1 3G units ARE NOT LTE capable. Other than that, loved the review.
Thank you,
Dovid
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The international version's are HSPA+ capable to 21MBs so they support AT&T's fake-4G network (as opposed to LTE). The 16GB is out now but I'm waiting for the 32GB which is due out the beginning of October. Since AT&T doesn't have the IMEI in their database it can be used with the data for non-Smartphones plan which is $10 for unlimited data and messaging. I'm using it on my SGS2. I figure in nine months to a year when LTE's widely deployed I'll end up getting one of the newer more advanced tablets that will be out by then.
pdagal said:
On another topic started by BarryH, I found out of the box MPEG4 video playback to be very good, in fact better than my other Honeycomb tablets. It handles 1080P high profile, and that's not too common with Tegra 2 tablets. I'm not talking about 3rd party apps like PlayOn, and I wonder if those are having problems right now because they don't yet support the dual core Snapdragon Scorpion + Adreno 220 used in the Jetstream.
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If my choice is re-encoding 2TB of video files from MKV to MP4 or sticking with the G-Tab that has no problem playing them natively, I'll take the latter.
The issue with not supporting online video streaming is HTC's non-standard implementation of its video player. It effects the Flyer and Sensation as well. For those looking, Orb Live works for video but not audio. It's still in beta so the latter might be fixed when its released. Plex is a much more elegant solution so I decided to stick with it and the G-Tab.
Also, the G-Tab supports MTP so you can download and store subscription tracks from Rhapsody and play them offline using the stock media player. That's a great feature when you're traveling.
B"H
Hey PDA Gal - I know you!
Anyways - a bit confusing when you say "in the US, such and such is available ...", because everything is available here in the US. At onthegosolutions, we have been providing the Sim-Free Samsung Tab 10.1 AT&T HSDPA 4G units for months already, like Barry mentioned.
Without trying to start anything disrespectful, but just a note that "Verizon" & "Best-Buy" are not the entire USA - just two stores in the US. Tons more places to get devices than those outlets!
Thanks,
Dovid
OK, I'm speaking of non-import products when I say "in the US". Certainly all manner of products are available through your site and others that aren't offered by US carriers or retailers who only carry US SKUs.
Hey forum,
Need your help, I'm looking at either purchasing the Jetstream or the Galaxy Tab with Rogers. I've scoured the net with reviews and comparisons with no definitive answer.
From your experience which is the better tablet and what would you recommend.
Please note that the price is not an issue here.
Thanks
izzkid said:
Hey forum,
Need your help, I'm looking at either purchasing the Jetstream or the Galaxy Tab with Rogers. I've scoured the net with reviews and comparisons with no definitive answer.
From your experience which is the better tablet and what would you recommend.
Please note that the price is not an issue here.
Thanks
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I just picked up the JS yesterday, and so far it is a very good tablet. I also have the SGT 10.1 and though very nice I do see that the JS is more responsive than my SGT 10.1.
Reason I purchased the JS is because of the stylus. I use this daily on my Flyer. The Note app that syncs with EverNote is the best thing I have used. I also installed Quill great app for note taking and works excellent on the JS.
The screen is much better on the SGT 10.1 as the ppi is much lower on the JS which you can see lines in the display. Not a big deal for me but some might not like it.
I have 14 days to return the JS so will be testing out things I use the tablet for. So far its a keeper and will sell my SGT 10.1 if I keep the JS. Also looking to find out if HTC plans on releasing ICS 4.0 for the JS. If not, then I will return it and wait.
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I was wondering if the new Galaxy Player 70 Plus (YP-GB70D) is worth getting from all people that own in.
I've been thinking about getting a PMP/MP3 player of late & read about the new GP70 (YP-GB70D) that was recently released. I was wondering if the older version (YP-GB70) its worth getting? I do currently have an AT&T Galaxy Note & prefer not to use it as a media player even though I could.
I was wondering if it's worth getting since I can get it for $330ish from http://www.exportprive.com/en/samsu...-70-yp-gb70-galaxy-s-wifi-50-32go-blanc-.html
RMXO said:
I was wondering if the new Galaxy Player 70 Plus (YP-GB70) is worth getting from all people that own in.
I've been thinking about getting a PMP/MP3 player of late & read about the new GP70 (YP-GB70) that was released. I was wondering if its worth getting? I considered the 5.0 but didn't like it cause of the 8GB since the new one has a 32GB version. I know I can add a microSD card on both but I prefer as much as possible for the internal memory.
I do currently have an AT&T Galaxy Note & prefer not to use it as a media player even though I could.
I was wondering if it's worth getting since I can get it for $330ish from http://www.exportprive.com/en/samsu...-70-yp-gb70-galaxy-s-wifi-50-32go-blanc-.html
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For some reason... this looks like it could potentially be a scam. A new one was announced, but I would NOT trust that retailer from a first glance. I mean look at it, they say on that site that it has a 3mp front cam? Doubt it.
ZaIINN said:
For some reason... this looks like it could potentially be a scam. A new one was announced, but I would NOT trust that retailer from a first glance. I mean look at it, they say on that site that it has a 3mp front cam? Doubt it.
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I have bought numerous items from them in the past so they are legit. I wonder if its a misprint on the camera. thanks for making me research further on it.
EDIT: after further research this isn't the new one I was after.
EDIT2: Found the correct version Yp-GB70D
http://www.exportprive.com/en/samsu...s-yp-gb70d-multimedia-player-32gb-white-.html
So no one with the Galaxy 5 wifi YP-G70 can tell me if they are worth it or not? if they are then I plan to get the new released Korean version.
If you care about Android development and want more of a variety of roms to choose from then I'd choose the Galaxy S I9000. If you don't mind the fact that the Galaxy Player doesn't come with SAMOLED screen and a lot activity in the development section, then go for it.
Sent from my YP-G70 using XDA
RMXO said:
So no one with the Galaxy 5 wifi YP-G70 can tell me if they are worth it or not? if they are then I plan to get the new released Korean version.
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The international version isn't that much different from the US version. Plus can you really justify paying that much for an outdated MP3 player when you can just purchase a dual core device with better development for less in the market?
Sent from my YP-G70 using XDA
i n f a m o u s said:
The international version isn't that much different from the US version. Plus can you really justify paying that much for an outdated MP3 player when you can just purchase a dual core device with better development for less in the market?
Sent from my YP-G70 using XDA
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Yah, if I'm going to spend that much then it will be for the newly dual core version (YP-GB70D). Actually, I just put in an order for the newly Korean released YP-70D, but started to get buyers remorse after seeing the final price with 2-3 international shipping.
Hopefully someone will start dev'n for the YP-70D in the future.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk 2
CONS:
The 5MP camera on GB70D totally sucks, because it's omap chip. Compared to 70GB Korean model (which has 5MP camera too) the colours are washed out, the focus is not sharp and the video is a joke. You can't set saturation, brightness etc. The video app can't pause now.
With current firmware (as of April 2012) it can not play most of the 720p videos smoothly (quite a joke for a media player).
The battery seems to be drained faster then original model.
There's not included offline 3d navigation iNavi, as was the case with previous model.
The display is not as bright as before and the colours are not correct (yellow hue).
The display still lags, in some HD videos it's quite bad.
In direct sun the display is still dark.
It has the same videochip as before, PoverVR SGX540. Some games run better, but many of them look the same or don't run at all. It definitely is not a device for 3D HD games.
Wakeup is remarkably slower now (sometimes 3 seconds).
The default sound app still sucks.
It's made in China, the previous model was made in Korea.
As for the white design, I like the original black/white design more.
PROS:
The dualcore does it's job, especially if you run torrents or other downloads in background and browse the web in foreground. It's fast.
1GB of memory is a significant upgrade.
The UI and fonts seem to be a bit smoother.
Conclusion:
It's faster. Soon there would be custom ROMs and upgrades as there are for the previous model, so many things will be fixed. But the camera sucks and the videochip is the same. So something is wrong, this was supposed to be a multimedia device.
Note: I could compare three models, all Korean versions.
Sent from my YP-GB70D using XDA
chongkwan said:
CONS:
The 5MP camera on GB70D totally sucks, because it's omap chip. Compared to 70GB Korean model (which has 5MP camera too) the colours are washed out, the focus is not sharp and the video is a joke. You can't set saturation, brightness etc. The video app can't pause now.
With current firmware (as of April 2012) it can not play most of the 720p videos smoothly (quite a joke for a media player).
The battery seems to be drained faster then original model.
There's not included offline 3d navigation iNavi, as was the case with previous model.
The display is not as bright as before and the colours are not correct (yellow hue).
The display still lags, in some HD videos it's quite bad.
In direct sun the display is still dark.
It has the same videochip as before, PoverVR SGX540. Some games run better, but many of them look the same or don't run at all. It definitely is not a device for 3D HD games.
Wakeup is remarkably slower now (sometimes 3 seconds).
The default sound app still sucks.
It's made in China, the previous model was made in Korea.
As for the white design, I like the original black/white design more.
PROS:
The dualcore does it's job, especially if you run torrents or other downloads in background and browse the web in foreground. It's fast.
1GB of memory is a significant upgrade.
The UI and fonts seem to be a bit smoother.
Conclusion:
It's faster. Soon there would be custom ROMs and upgrades as there are for the previous model, so many things will be fixed. But the camera sucks and the videochip is the same. So something is wrong, this was supposed to be a multimedia device.
Note: I could compare three models, all Korean versions.
Sent from my YP-GB70D using XDA
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Would you buy this model again or another if you had the chance to do it over again? If another, which device.
Could you compare the 5.0 series with the YP-GB70D? Just curious on your opinion of them.
I would not buy it. Omap cameras suck, that's what cheap LG devices use. Also the omap dualcore in GB70D isn't the same as exynos or tegra. As for 5.0 series, it's the same as Korean GB70, except Korean GB70 has 5MP camera (good one!) and DBM TV.
I would buy Galaxy Note instead, even if you don't need a phone. I think Samsung now goes the way Apple did before Steve Jobs returned. Too many products, in the end none of them done properly. Just look how many Galaxy Tabs are there now. It's a joke.
chongkwan said:
I would not buy it. Omap cameras suck, that's what cheap LG devices use. Also the omap dualcore in GB70D isn't the same as exynos or tegra. As for 5.0 series, it's the same as Korean GB70, except Korean GB70 has 5MP camera (good one!) and DBM TV.
I would buy Galaxy Note instead, even if you don't need a phone. I think Samsung now goes the way Apple did before Steve Jobs returned. Too many products, in the end none of them done properly. Just look how many Galaxy Tabs are there now. It's a joke.
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If you're talking about an Int Galaxy Note, I had one & sold it. I'm currently using an AT&T Galaxy Note. I seriously thought the new version of the SGP would be awesome with dual core, hence my reason in wanting one.
Since I was able to cancel my YP-GB70D 32GB order, I'm either going to find a cheap alternative or just buy more batteries for my I717. I would save a ton if I went with more batteries route.
Hmmm this is interesting... I haven't had any of these issues with my YP-GB70D. I don't use the camera on it however. I've only used the front facing camera with Skype and haven't had any complaints from the other end.
I just got a used GP70+ (YP-GB70D). I am quite disappointed with it - the major problem is the Adobe Flash performance of videos played in the web browser.
The GP70+ has flash 10.3 installed. Since Flash player is no longer available in Google Play, I use backup copies from my other phones and tablets and .apks from apktop. Flash 11 does NOT work - either causes force closes, or start playing and freezes. I installed the last version of Flash 10 before 11 (10.3.186.7), and it can only play up to 480p video - NO HD Flash, that completely freezes.
This is really unacceptable for a dual core OMAP4430 device. My GP5.0 and the Galaxy S phone has a single core Hummingbird CPU. It has Flash 11.1 and can play up to 720p Flash video in the browser.
The device also feels a little sluggish for a dual core tablet, even when using GO Launcher. It has a 800 x 480 screen, which is lower resolution than eg. Kindle Fire (which also has OMAP4430), the GPU drives fewer pixels and everything should be faster.
The screen is also not as bright and crisp as the GP5.0, not to mention the AMOLED screen of the Galaxy S or S2.
One big plus is that 1080p STORED videos (MP4, DIVX) play flawlessly with MX player - MX player shows that hardware decoding is enabled. HW acceleration is NOT supported in the single core GP5.0, and it can only play up to 720p (some not all, depending on bitrate).
P.S. By the way, if any GP70+ owners want a copy of the rooted firmware of this player (GB70KRLD2), please post your request here or PM me (I don't want the upload link to be killed quickly). I searched high and low and finally found it in a Chinese forum (Google Translate saves the day!). Thank goodness it was still good for download.
mobile flash is dead..in one year it will be frogoten..all web is swithing to html 5 videos.And it should be frogoten becuse it is so poorly coded.
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DZonikg said:
mobile flash is dead..in one year it will be frogoten..all web is swithing to html 5 videos.And it should be frogoten becuse it is so poorly coded.
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Well I just hope that it is not the Android story all over again - rushed to get implemented, years to improve.