Hey guys, so I just ordered an Eris which I intend to use on MetroPCS.
I just want to make sure that I'm doing all this in the correct order..
So, fist thing is that I need to make sure that the phone has 2.1 on it in order to use the 1 click root solution(love )
-Though if my phone isn't 2.1..how do I upgrade without rooting so that I can root?
Next, I need to choose a rom to use. I found the read first sticky listing all the most current roms and radios and other info on how to actually install them.
-Though, since the thread is closed are they really all the latest?
Lastly, I need to Flash (not sure if that is actually the correct terminology) the phone's settings over to Metro using the file found here.
I think that's the basic direction that I need to take. Please let me know if I'm missing anything.
I am in the dark about a couple things, though I'm not sure I need to understand them.
I know the kernel is a central part of the OS, but doesn't it come with the rom you choose? Why would you need to flash the Kernel, is it just to update your rom without actually changing your rom?
Also, what's with recovery images and what's an RUU?
Finally, how do I pick a rom that's right for me!? There seem to be so many and I'm not sure which are the most recent/functional/fast..
Anyway, you guys are awesome for all you do and I hope that this thread can be useful to someone besides just me.
Thanks again!!
conradcliff said:
Hey guys, so I just ordered an Eris which I intend to use on MetroPCS.
I just want to make sure that I'm doing all this in the correct order..
So, fist thing is that I need to make sure that the phone has 2.1 on it in order to use the 1 click root solution(love )
-Though if my phone isn't 2.1..how do I upgrade without rooting so that I can root?
Next, I need to choose a rom to use. I found the read first sticky listing all the most current roms and radios and other info on how to actually install them.
-Though, since the thread is closed are they really all the latest?
Lastly, I need to Flash (not sure if that is actually the correct terminology) the phone's settings over to Metro using the file found here.
I think that's the basic direction that I need to take. Please let me know if I'm missing anything.
I am in the dark about a couple things, though I'm not sure I need to understand them.
I know the kernel is a central part of the OS, but doesn't it come with the rom you choose? Why would you need to flash the Kernel, is it just to update your rom without actually changing your rom?
Also, what's with recovery images and what's an RUU?
Finally, how do I pick a rom that's right for me!? There seem to be so many and I'm not sure which are the most recent/functional/fast..
Anyway, you guys are awesome for all you do and I hope that this thread can be useful to someone besides just me.
Thanks again!!
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Probably once you get the phone it will already have the 2.1 official OS or you can update it through the Settings and have it check for updates. I would suggest that you try xtrSense. I have no clue on the Metro settings though but I would imagine once you get a good ROM flashed that all you have to do is to just install the settings.
Thanks, yeah..I think that link that I posted takes care of the metro settings..at least it says it does.
I didn't think I would be able to do an over the air update because I was assuming that it was DL'd from a verizon server. Does the update to 2.1 come from a typical internet source that can be accessed from any network?
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I've been looking through the posts and some are sort of old. So i'm posting this just to make sure I have all the current and correct information.
I'm coming over from a T-Mobile HTC Dream that I flashed to Cyanogen.
I want to flash my Sprint Hero to the Modaco Custom ROM primarily so I can wifi tether but also because I suspect that the Modaco ROM probably performs better.
anyway here are my questions:
Can I use Cyanogen's 1.4 Recovery Image to gain root access? If not, which should I use?
What version of the ModaCo ROM do I want to use? Is the most recent also the most stable?
Do I need to flash on a new Radio? If so, which one?
That's it. Like I said I did read through a bunch of posts first but since most of the ones I found with good information were from 6 months ago, I just wanted to make sure I had all the current information before going forward.
DaveKid
You may want to mention that it's a Sprint Hero in the title of your post. I was hoping to help you out, but like the majority of people here, I have the Telus/European model, so I don't think I'm qualified to answer your questions.
DaveKid said:
I've been looking through the posts and some are sort of old. So i'm posting this just to make sure I have all the current and correct information.
I'm coming over from a T-Mobile HTC Dream that I flashed to Cyanogen.
I want to flash my Sprint Hero to the Modaco Custom ROM primarily so I can wifi tether but also because I suspect that the Modaco ROM probably performs better.
anyway here are my questions:
Can I use Cyanogen's 1.4 Recovery Image to gain root access? If not, which should I use?
What version of the ModaCo ROM do I want to use? Is the most recent also the most stable?
Do I need to flash on a new Radio? If so, which one?
That's it. Like I said I did read through a bunch of posts first but since most of the ones I found with good information were from 6 months ago, I just wanted to make sure I had all the current information before going forward.
DaveKid
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Instead of the Cyanogen Recovery image, use this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581521
We don't have a new kernel so MoDaCo's ROM is just some tweaks to the stock OS until a working kernel is built and optimized. (Also wifitethering is working on the stock ROM for me, just gotta use the pre-release version since they only recently figured out what was blocking it).
You can find the CDMA MoDaCo here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581846
There's no new radio firmware so you shouldn't need to flash the radio.
It can be tough sorting between GSM and CDMA information but hopefully this will start you in the right direction.
Thanks thecodemonk, that information helps alot. So based on your information it probably doesn't make any sense for me to flash to Modaco right now. How do I get my hands on the pre-release version so that I can tether?
Thanks
DaveKid
DaveKid said:
Thanks thecodemonk, that information helps alot. So based on your information it probably doesn't make any sense for me to flash to Modaco right now. How do I get my hands on the pre-release version so that I can tether?
Thanks
DaveKid
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Sure thing DaveKid.
I'm running stock myself but it's really more of a preference thing. If you like MoDaCo's stuff, I am sure he will continue to improve it (once he gets back from his trip). I'm more waiting it out and I like tweaking things myself so I'm implementing some things he's done and doing other things differently. If you like MoDaCo, go for it!
Here's the link to the issue thread where I got the pre-release issue (as well as pros/cons of using it from other people...it's worth a read!)
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/issues/detail?id=188
Direct link to the apk file: http://android-wifi-tether.googlecode.com/files/wireless_tether_1_61-pre1_htc.apk
It's working well for me but some others are reporting an issue with wireless from it. I'm sure in time, they will have a more elegant official release for us.
one more quick question....
do I still want to format my MicroSD card into 3 partitions: fat32, Ext3, Linux-Swap?
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one more quick question....
do I still want to format my MicroSD card into 3 partitions: fat32, Ext3, Linux-Swap?
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The point of partitioning is to use Apps2SD (Ext2/3/4 partition) and to use your sdcard as a swap drive (Linux-Swap).
The point of Apps2SD is to store all your apps on your SDCard (surprise!)...usually because you have *that* many apps that it doesn't fit on the internal storage area. The other reason people do this is because they want an easier way to backup what apps they have installed.
As for the swap issue, there are a couple camps in this arena...
Some believe that Android should be left to manage it's memory as it was designed to do and that putting in a swap partition messes with that (since SDCards are slower than internal memory). I fall into this camp.
Other's believe that it gives them more flexability and overcomes some of the limits...they like having more things in "running state".
Hopefully that will educate you to make your choices the way you want your device to be.
Currently I have a HTC Touch Pro with Sprint, the ROM has never been changed since I got it, I have modified many things about it but I have never gotten as deep as flashing ROM's. I'd like to do this without bricking my phone so I am sort of paranoid about being careful doing this.
Basically, I am canceling with Sprint and I want to change my ROM to work with the Verizon/Alltel network so I am able to activate it on the PagePlus network. I know there are many things to go through on this forum that probably answer my question.. but I don't know where to start.
Are there already instructions for this somewhere or could somebody give me some? Any help is appreciated.
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Currently I have a HTC Touch Pro with Sprint, the ROM has never been changed since I got it, I have modified many things about it but I have never gotten as deep as flashing ROM's. I'd like to do this without bricking my phone so I am sort of paranoid about being careful doing this.
Basically, I am canceling with Sprint and I want to change my ROM to work with the Verizon/Alltel network so I am able to activate it on the PagePlus network. I know there are many things to go through on this forum that probably answer my question.. but I don't know where to start.
Are there already instructions for this somewhere or could somebody give me some? Any help is appreciated.
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You have to unlock your device before being able to flash a rom on it. The flashing and the transferring of the device to another carrier are two separate matters. If I were you (and considering that Verizon tech support are not the smartest, or the brightest), I would leave the device with the stock rom, take it to Verizon, have them add the device to their network, and then unlock and flash a new rom. I have a tutorial on how to flash to other roms (look in my signature), but do it only when you are ready.
Good luck!
Just order a new atrix 4G. I have looked at the possible ROM's to use and I want to try out the Neutrino ROM. I have rooted devices before but I am new to Motorola devices. Please help me find the CURRENT steps I need to take to get to be able to run the Neutrino ROM? I have used the search bar but a lot of the threads that I have found contain links that are no longer valid. Such as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600 Also I read a this link http://www.xda-developers.com/tag/motorola-atrix-4g/ which has me a worried that I may end up having an issue because all of the guides or seem to have been written before May 15th.
Thanks for taking a look and sorry if that was a little confusing I just didn't want to get flammed for being lazy. In the end I just want to know the most up to date way to get to the Neutrino ROM?? Below I will have included the specs. If I need to post anthing else please let me know
I recieved my phone last night and set it up on Striaght Talk.
System version: 45.31.0.MB860.AsiaRetail.en.03
Model Number: MB860
Android Version: 2.3.4
Your help is GREATLY APPRIECIATED!!
Also on the youTube videos they all seem to say "DO NOT DO TRY TO UNLOCK OR ROOT IF YOU HAVE 2.3.4 OR IT WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE!!"
Is this still the case or has there been a work around for it yet??
you have to unlock bootloader, but you can get FAIL with last step.
If you will get fail - don't worry, you can still unlock it via fastboot (tested on mine INTL Atrix, but every phone is a little bit different)
flash recovery, wipe data, wipe cache, wipe dalvik, flash rom, flash gapps. Done
Thanks ovitz. Can you point me to a thread describing how to unlock the bootloader on this phone?? I can do all the other stuff that you said I need to do after the bootloader is unlocked(clearing and flashing). Just really dont want to mess up my phone. I got 2 actually one for my girlfriend as well. I have java and all SDK/ADB and all programs that I may need. Just want a step by step for comfort.
Is the search not working for you?
http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/1136261/
The thread is sticky even.
DISCLAIMER: I used this to unlock the BL on my Atrix, but mine is an older one, dating back to around Feb 2011. I do not know if this still works on brand new devices, however I am not aware of any other way to unlock (there probably isn't any other way really).
What is the other way (not using fastboot) to unlock this bootloader?? I tried fastboot oem unlock and got this message "INFOOEM unlock is not implemented"
Do I need to use an SBF with RSDlite or something to make this possible? If so please point me in the direction of that thread!?!
Thanks for anyone that can help
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Is the search not working for you?
http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/1136261/
The thread is sticky even.
DISCLAIMER: I used this to unlock the BL on my Atrix, but mine is an older one, dating back to around Feb 2011. I do not know if this still works on brand new devices, however I am not aware of any other way to unlock (there probably isn't any other way really).
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Sorry ravilov...Did not see your post as I had started a post and then ventured off to seach XDA and some other forums again as well. I have gotten to the link that you posted several times. I just saw that is was posted a long time ago and that there is a lot of things in that post that dont make too much sense to me.
First it says "All phones If you have unlocked then try to use 2.3.4 update zip from Motorola servers, then revert back to a "pre-unlock" version(1.8.3 or earlier on ATT) you will get bricked! Do not use the OTA via experimental servers and revert to older versions WITHOUT pudding preinstalled in your sbf. ATT ONLY Get your 1.8.3 with pudding from the pudding/unlocker section below."
Then shortly after is says "Disclaimer: Tested on 1.8.3 and 2.3.4 using sbf_flash and RSDLITE 5.3.1 or higher, usual warnings being responsible for your own actions yada yada"
So I dont really know if it works or not on the newer atrix's. I dont want to brick a brand new phone and I would just like to see that some one else has done it recently. So yes my eyes are open and search did work for me if you did not see the 2 other threads I mentioned. I just want something up to date, not from early 2011. If it can be confirmed that this works or If you know someone who has unlocked it recently, that would be great to hear from them.
Thanks for posting the link to that thread anyways though. Much apprieciated!
Can anyone tell me if the IHOP method to unlock bootloader will work with my phone?? I cant post in that thread because I do not have enough posts. Here are my specs so I could get some help with which patch to use with RSDlite.
System version: 45.31.0.MB860.AsiaRetail.en.03
Model number: MB860
Android version: 2.3.4
Baseband version: N_01.100.00R
Kernel version: 2.6.32.9
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APflex version: GAS_ASIA_USAOLYGBSEART_P011
GAS_ASIA_USAOLYGBSEART_A003
GAS_ASIA_USAOLEMSEARET_M001
Build number: 4.5.2A-74_OLE-31
Something else I want to note is that it was bought on ebay as unlocked so I am assuming that is the radio. When I set up the APN for straight talk it did have the choices for AT&T US, AT&T US HSDPA, AT&T US Tether, AT&T US MMS. So this is why I am a little confused/scared as to which piece of pudding to use. It looks easy enough to unlock and clear the caches and flash the ROM I will want to use. Just would like to know which one to use.
Please, please somebody help!!:fingers-crossed:
Thanks you for taking a look to help. Much apprieciated!!!
For a phone with the Asia Retail firmware, you'll want to use RSD Lite to flash the IHOP SBF. Your phone will likely enter a soft brick as stated above, just proceed with the unlock commands in fastboot from the error screen.
Since its an international phone, if you don't load a new ROM soon after unlocking then you'll need to flash the "RAMfix" from the Development section here. Most ROMs have that built in to the kernel, though, so it's not needed if you're going directly to a ROM.
In case you need it in the future, you might want to locate your stock SBF for Asia Retail and keep it on hand. If you see the Atrix Firmware Superthread in the Dev section, find the later Page that has new links to updated download sites. It's a post with a link to all Gingerbread firmwares and a link to all Froyo firmwares. Yours will have "searet" in the name. Make sure it's the same version, 2.3.4. Flashing anything older will brick you.
Good luck!
Sent from my MB865 Atrix 2 via Tapatalk 2
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For a phone with the Asia Retail firmware, you'll want to use RSD Lite to flash the IHOP SBF. Your phone will likely enter a soft brick as stated above, just proceed with the unlock commands in fastboot from the error screen.
Since its an international phone, if you don't load a new ROM soon after unlocking then you'll need to flash the "RAMfix" from the Development section here. Most ROMs have that built in to the kernel, though, so it's not needed if you're going directly to a ROM.
In case you need it in the future, you might want to locate your stock SBF for Asia Retail and keep it on hand. If you see the Atrix Firmware Superthread in the Dev section, find the later Page that has new links to updated download sites. It's a post with a link to all Gingerbread firmwares and a link to all Froyo firmwares. Yours will have "searet" in the name. Make sure it's the same version, 2.3.4. Flashing anything older will brick you.
Good luck!
Sent from my MB865 Atrix 2 via Tapatalk 2
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Awesome das8nt!! wish I could thank you more than once!!! I was just confused because it said asia in some spots but the APN's were for AT&T.
Oregon2 said:
Awesome das8nt!! wish I could thank you more than once!!! I was just confused because it said asia in some spots but the APN's were for AT&T.
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Quite welcome.
APNs are usually set by your SIM, if it's provisioned properly and the phone supports it.
Sent from my MB865 Atrix 2 via Tapatalk 2
Good to know About the APNs. Just to let you know I unlocked, rooted, and flashed the ROM the day you first replied. So I've been running with a new ROM for 3 days and the battery life is great!!
If anyone out there has installed the Neutrino ROM, I have one more question. On the Neurino ROM page it say to do these 2 steps:
"Then, after booting, click on script manager, navigate to /system/etc and run NitroCharger.sh as ROOT and at BOOT!
It is also HIGHLY recommended to download the GPS Mod found in #2. Then you're done."
I tried flashing the GPS mod but I keep gettng an error. Then on my first boot I tried going to /system/etc and from there I do not know where to locate NitroCharger to run it for either. Any help on these two issues would be great!! Also another thanks for everyone for taking a look and helping.
I would post in that thread but I still dont have enought posts.
You really need to reread the original Neutrino thread, since all of this has been answered countless times.
YOU DO NOT FLASH THE GPS MOD DIRECTLY. Open the ZIP and read the instructions.
NitroCharger is only available as an OTA update, but you might reconsider if you really want it since it's been known to cause issues.
Again, I know the thread is very large, but whatever questions or issues you might have, it's very likely answered there already.
Thanks you for just answering, even though you think I should just reread the thread. That answered my questions very fast. I will just not run Nitrocharger, I thought it may casue problems if I could not get it to run, instead you said it is the opposite. As for the GPS mod I just did open up the .zip and read the readme. I pulled out the United_States.zip
Can I just use CWM recovery to flash the US.zip now or do I have to clear all my caches and the likes beforehand?
I know your very busy and I apprieciate the time you take to just look at it.
I have just started my own business and it is going great!! but I have been working 14+ hour days with usually 9 hours hour doing very hard physical labor 6 days a week!! I need to hire more employees soon, lol. I read the whole IHOP thread from front to back and the Neutrino thread but I was very exhasted and stayed up until 330 in the morning doing it!! So again I thank you for taking your time I appriciate it very MUCH that you are helping me to have a fun android experiance and also to learn something new to me!!
Yes, you can just go ahead and flash United_States.zip. No need to clear anything.
Awesome your the MAN!! Thanks again :laugh: :good:
1-SBF to stock base. Root your phone, unlock bootloader, install custom recovery and perform a nandroid backup of your stock rom!
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So my question is all based on this, and after a lot of reading I found both answers but both were old so not sure which one to trust.
I am currently rooted, unlocked, running joker's CWM & Joker's CM10, and have a nandroid backup from back when I was running stock.
Is step one really to roll back to stock base, re-root my phone, re-unlock my bootloader, and make a new nandroid backup? Or are these instructions assuming we are not already rooted/unlocked?
Can I skip step one and just flash the new radio and then Joker's GSM CM10?
(Long time lurker, first time poster, 9 different phones hacked to bits and this is my first question ever, if this has been asked before no combination of GSM/Stock/SBF found it.)
Where can find definition and terminology
Can someone please give the link to the post/forum where we noobs can find definition and terminology on ROMS, kernl etc. ?
Saad007 said:
Can someone please give the link to the post/forum where we noobs can find definition and terminology on ROMS, kernl etc. ?
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expertglossary.com/android/definitions/R (Banned from posting outside links.. Jebus it is hard being new, and all I could think lurking was I wish they had a method of making people talk *less*)
This might help a bit, ask if you want anything clarified. Their ROMS definition is a little not perfect, A Rom as it is normally used here is a zip file containing all the bits that makes an android install, A custom rom is a bundle of the kernel and android version, tweaks, themes, fixes, modifications, basically everything you use on a system as tailored by the ROM builders.
A guide to Noobs
aywwts4 said:
expertglossary.com/android/definitions/R (Banned from posting outside links.. Jebus it is hard being new, and all I could think lurking was I wish they had a method of making people talk *less*)
This might help a bit, ask if you want anything clarified. Their ROMS definition is a little not perfect, A Rom as it is normally used here is a zip file containing all the bits that makes an android install, A custom rom is a bundle of the kernel and android version, tweaks, themes, fixes, modifications, basically everything you use on a system as tailored by the ROM builders.
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I was thinking more about " a guide to noobs" here in xdadevelopers forum ?
Where can I find it?
Definitely here is the best we have forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393519 then you follow all the myriad links based on what you are trying to do.
Not being sure what your goal is it is hard to be more specific.
Anyone have an answer for my earlier question though? My sim card arrives tomorrow.
Hi!
I've been an android user for a year now (and never looked back!). I've been playing with the idea of root, but never got around before. I used to have a Nexus 5, but now a Z2.
I've unlocked my bootloader, but then it's all a bit confusing to me. I've been reading for hours in here, but it seems to make me more confused I keep finding new threads linking to another new thread, and they all seem to introduce new words and phrases I'm not quite familiar with
I want my phone to be rooted (because of the opportunities), and I would love to have my Z2 closest possible to my Nexus5 on the software side.
1 - If I understand correctly, what I need is a ROM close to the AOSP software(?) If so, can you point me in the right direction?
2 - I've installed the Sony Mobile Flasher, and downloaded an FTF file from this thread Is the FTF my backup to revert to if I for some reason need to go back to stock? If so, will everything work like before?
3 - I also read about something called recovery? What is this in relation to all this?
I would really appreciate if someone could point me in some sort of direction, before I get more lost in here I need to get started somewhere, to get a better understanding of these terms and processes! Thanks for any help!
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Hi!
I've been an android user for a year now (and never looked back!). I've been playing with the idea of root, but never got around before. I used to have a Nexus 5, but now a Z2.
I've unlocked my bootloader, but then it's all a bit confusing to me. I've been reading for hours in here, but it seems to make me more confused I keep finding new threads linking to another new thread, and they all seem to introduce new words and phrases I'm not quite familiar with
I want my phone to be rooted (because of the opportunities), and I would love to have my Z2 closest possible to my Nexus5 on the software side.
1 - If I understand correctly, what I need is a ROM close to the AOSP software(?) If so, can you point me in the right direction?
2 - I've installed the Sony Mobile Flasher, and downloaded an FTF file from this thread Is the FTF my backup to revert to if I for some reason need to go back to stock? If so, will everything work like before?
3 - I also read about something called recovery? What is this in relation to all this?
I would really appreciate if someone could point me in some sort of direction, before I get more lost in here I need to get started somewhere, to get a better understanding of these terms and processes! Thanks for any help!
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1. AOSP roms are base android which nexus runs google android which is literely aosp with google apps so yes aosp roms are what your looking for
with aosp roms you will need to flash a gapps package to have things such as playstore, and such
- you do need a unlocked bootloader
2.you can use flashtool from flashtool.net to flash FTFs incase you need to do a total reset
3. recovery menu is what you use to flash your rom or backup or other things
any questions.. just ask